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Withdrawal worse everytime

I am wondering why physiologically withdrawal symptoms get worse everytime you go through them, I have severe cluster headaches and don't take norco all the time,  but when I need to take them when I am in a bad cycle, (a cycle can last anywhere from 3-5 days) I go through withdrawals, the bone pain, achiness, all of it.  I t didn't use to be this way, but now it happens everytime.  I would rather suffer the withdrawals then take them when I don't need to, but it is getting harder..can someone explain this to me?
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Hello, this is an old thread please go to medhelp.org, click on forums, then substance abuse and post a new question.  More people will be able to view and respond to your problem.
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hello, iam new 2 this and just reading about has taken me to a different leval,ive been on narco for 2 yrs.and got cut off by my docter,4 days ago talk about HELL!!!!the withdraws were a nightmare my birthday was friday and with out that damn narceo10!! i felt so lifeless. and to sleep at night was awful,the sweets the toss and turn the RLS. the bicth in me was evil,stinking thinking, i came close to getting them off the street. but i felt like ive climb a mounton and i;am 1/2 way there.and dont want to relive the fuckin hell.of 2 days ago.i still crave but to relaps scared me.
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Thank you everyone for your straight forwardness and support.  I am trying to stay away from the vicodine but losing some days and winning others.  I haave been doing a lot of journaling and getting stronger in my fight.  I filed for divorce and feel good about my decision.  Thanks again all your words whether written to me or not make me feel not alone.
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Hi Peazy - been reading all your posts - can always count on you for support and consistency....I LOVE your bluntness, but the thing about you is your love and support shines through...I like the way you cut through the bullshit and get right to the heart of the matter....smile.  I've told ya before, but want to tell you again, you inspire me daily.  I've pasted several of your posts in my journal and read them every night.  Just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate you.  (OK..now that I've gave you the "big head", gonna sign off and go to bed...smile)  Love ya, peaz....Lisabet
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You know what kills me is that he tells me he doesn't want to be married anymore because he doesn't want a committment anymore after 7 years yet he has been seeing this woman for a year and is moving in with her.  If that isn't a committment I don'tknow what is.  Plus she has a 9 year old daughter so its a even bigger committment.  I am so glad we don't have kids. I got my own bankk account today and got an attorney.  It is so hard to stay away from the vicodine.  I took 7 at once today and chewed them for greater affect.  iTs to late I am already in a full blown relapse trying desperatly to pull myself out. or am I?
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I know you don't know me but my name is usally just passenby. I'm away from home right now  on my 3rd day of CT. I've been trying to keep up with everyones post.I've been reading yours and I hope you don't mind me butting in here .I was worried about that last post and it is late and not to many people on right now.I do want to say this and I hope I don't hurt your feeling but if your going to give in to the fight you have started because of the pain he his dealing you then he wins.Honey men like him are a dime a dozen you can find anyone to treat you like that. Beleive me I've kissed alot of frogs to get my prince.Let me tell you when you loose these guys you feel you just can't hurt anymore.I know been there got the T-shirt and I did have 2 children.All I can say is I got hook on vicodins when I lost my son a year and a half ago it help numb the pain in my heart.He was 25 and he OD on vicodin and I should be ashamed. I'm in pain can't sleep and I'm determand to do this and get my life back so come on Hon jump on in my boat I'll help you row    passenby I't just like being on adiet if you slip one day you just go on the next dayan TRY TRY again.
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What a great post, passenby! There's a lot of wisdom there. Vico I hope you can regroup and get back in the saddle because you need to do this in order to get your life back on track---WITHOUT MR. *******.  Like Passenby said, there is a NICE guy out there for you, and it will happen. But you need to be clean and sober to make those good things in life come your way....  Please try and pitch your stash so you aren't tempted, and use spite for your husband to your advantage!!!!LOL  Hang in ther and keep posting. Love, Peazy
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Thank you for the advice and support.  It has been really hard getting through this.  Today my husband tried to come back to me and tell me it would be different and not 30 minutes later he was arguing with me over something stupid and calling me a *****.  Going on and on about how he can't wait to get out of here.  Ever time I get my hopes up that things are going to change I fall harder.  It's like withdrawal each time its worse.  I used today and I felt so much worse after I came off the vicodine and now I feel weak.  I let myself down.  Feeling good for a couple of hours just wasn't worth it.
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I will try and reroute your email---I hope I didn't delete it.  Damn, I hate technology sometimes!!
     Your husband is reacting to pangs of guilt, but of course his true colors are shing through.........Cry me a river, buddy.  If he is SERIOUS about getting your lives back together, he will go to counseling w/ you and truly make an effort. Oh, and did I mention quitting seeing the bimbo?? LOL  Anything less means his heart ain't in it, so don't fall for it.  He's trying to assuage his guilt, is all...
  You picked up and it's over and done so let's move on....Thank God you didn't find a lot of solace in that fact, it wasn't pleasurable, and that's great!!  Get your determination and head back together and call a lawyer, Like (Lisabet?) said.   Might as well salvage something from this, and it's be a shame to just forfeit it.....So you GO GIRL!! Be pro-active and try to be assertive.  It's hard when you feel so mentally (and physically) depleted, but try to summon up everything you can, because you usually don't get a second chance at diving divorce property.
   Again, I'll try and find that email or, HEY! how's about another one?? Thinking of you, babe--Peazy
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I had a feeling he would do that.  And I think you're in for many of his ploys in the coming months -- and that's not to say that he doesn't love you, but that he's NOT worthy of your love in the way he's behaving.  There is never any excuse for an ongoing affair.  

I really, really think that protecting your financial interests (and yes, finding an Attorney) are so important right now.  And about the slip-up, hey, we have ALL been there so don't come down hard on yourself.  Just pick yourself up and start back where you were -- one slip up does not a relapse make.

I know you want this marriage to work.  You can't turn your switch from 'in love' to 'out of love' just with the snap of a finger, but your husband's actions are speaking volumes in re: to his character right now.  If he's not willing to break it off right now with the girlie, and go into intense counseling, and treat you with the utmost respect and 18 other things that would prove he were serious about the marriage, it's important that you find friends and family to turn to.  

And again, you have us whenever you need us.

Alexis
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Sweetie, I just read about what your dh (ya know the acronym for 'dear husband', well I don't mean 'dear' when I use that acronym) has done.  I agree with everything Peazy said, so I don't have a lot left to say except to offer a shoulder to cry on if you want it.  Oh, and the self-blame game is so prevalent when this kind of thing happens -- but you didn't decide to leave him for another, so this is NOT YOUR FAULT.  And you shouldn't own it, he needs to.

I've been through some traumatic times with my hubby, but what you're going through requires some tough action on your part to protect your self-interests.  I think that getting a lawyer would be an important first step in regard to any assets you two have.  You have to protect yourself financially in these circumstances.  And get tested (you know) - it's highly unlikely you have any diseases, but getting all of your ducks in a row right now is so important (sorry to get graphic, I'm just concerned for you).

Dealing with the addiction aspect, man what a toughie.  You are doing so wonderfully with staying away from the Vic's - you're already through the physical part, it's the emotional part now to contend with, but YOU CAN DO IT.  If divorce is in the works right now (which it rarely is -- they usually end up coming back begging for forgiveness to which you promptly let them know that you're not a soft place for them to fall).  I'm really not trying to tell you what to do, just putting some stuff out there, so I apologize in advance if this comes across as harsh, but damn that pisses me off what he's done!  Going through  withdrawal and then having to deal with this.  But you WILL make it and come out a stronger person, I just know it.  It's the fact of, 'that which does not kill us makes us stronger' (what a unique phrase <insert sarcastic little facie.).

So I would say that you need to protect yourself financially, emotionally and separate from this guy and focus solely on yourself for awhile.  The idea of finding friends and family to be with you right now is a good one, but from the standpoint of leaving your home, it might not be in the best interest (legally - please consult with a good attorney).  I know it's easier said than done, but you know you have the comfort of us and others when you feel the need.  Big ((hugs)) to ya.

Alexis
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try resending it to this address ***@****
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I replied to your email but I think there was a routing error. Tell me if you got it or not.
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Oops I meant my last entry to be to Peaz not Gamez.
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Well, let's hope your husband isn't intentionally being an insensitive jerk by telling you his new babe is just like YOU, except for the fact that she can have kids.....You seem to know a lot about her.  Did you ask, or is he just being "sweet" and "sharing" w/ you??  Spare me......like you want to know ANYTHING about this Beyatch.  But, like I said yesterday, he had a hand in this affair, too.  So often we wives hate the other woman and forget to be as pissed or even MORE pissed at our own husbands.  Go figure....
     I'm so sorry to hear how sad you are, and the hurt you're feeling right now.  If you're not on an anti-depressant, I strongly suggest it, because you need all the help you can get in keeping a healthy morale and outlook.  Do you have family or friends that you can go to for support?  And does anyone know about your addiction and W/D so they can help you get past this trying and tempting time?  You need all the shoulders you can find right now, sweets, and if you don't have any available,  you can email me at  ***@**** and we can talk more privately.  I think sundara has posted to you up top, too, so we can both be there if you need us.  Hang in there, and KEEP POSTING AND DON'T PICK UP!!!  You've come too far to trash it all now....  Love, Peazy
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I appreciate everything you just said to me.  I feel so alone right now and it feels good to know someone understands what I am going through.  So far I have stayed away from the vicodine, but it is so tempting.  I have cried so much that my eyes a practically swelled shut.  Its hard not thinking that I did something.  He even had the nerve to tell me she's alot like me. I can't have kids and she can and has a daughter so I keeping thinking maybe that's why.  I just need to remeber I am a good person and don't deserve this.  There is someone out there who will treat me better and I can have a fresh start on life.  Thank you for your advice and understanding.  It means alot.
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Hey Woman!!! Hang in there!!!  Jesus Christ what a slap in the face but DON'T USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO RELAPSE! PLEASE>>>>>> You are doing so well and this is FOR YOU. There is NO way you can adequately cope w/ everything that's going on in your life if you're all ****** up and in a fog. You will still have all the problems when  it comes time for that next dose.......STAY SOBER.
     Well, guess what? Small world--the exact SAME thing happened to me (many years ago, now) and we had been together about the SAME amount of time, too.  We had a baby girl, 2 years old at the time, so I was left to be a single mom, was battling a bone tumor w/ 4-5 subsequent surgeries, and in  2  casts, so work was out of the question.  All that **** is really neither here nor there----what I want to tell you is, and this is CRUCIAL that you understand this: THERE IS NOTHING YOU DID TO "DRIVE" HIM AWAY.  Your marriage is a two-way street, darlin', and it is never one person's fault.  In fact, you should avoid the words"fault" and "blame", because they serve no purpose in the end, anyway.  Sometimes **** just happens (hey--that would make a catchy phrase, wouldn't it??LOL)and there is NO WAY that anything you, alone, DID to cause this.  One more thing:  You will get throught this and find happiness again.  Your life isn't over.  But if you fall back into your addiction, you don't stand a chance of reclaming anything worthwhile.  You nne to keep up the ggod fight and keep you nose to the grindstone.

PLEASE don't be angry at me for barging into your life: lecturing and telling you do this; don't do that......I've BEEN THERE and I'm only trying to give you hope.  I wish you the very best, and if I can help you out in any way, please let me know.  Love--Peazy
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Sorry I haven't been on er in a few days.  My sister is in town with her new baby boy.  He is only 6 months old.  I keep looking at him and thinking how nice it must be to just be starting out in this world and so happy and carefree.  I want to be like tat.  I am doing better.  I havent taken any vicodine in a week and have survived the withdrawals.  I feel so guilty and nervous about the things I have done lately.  but so far so good.  My husband told me yesterday thet he is leaving me at the end of the month for another woman and they are going to live together.  I am tryoing to stay away from the pills even though I am in so much emotional pain.  We have been together for 7 years and i don;t know how to be without him.  And I keep thinking what is wrong with me.  Obviosly I did something i he is turning to another woman.  I am scared of what the future holds and I am even more afraid that I am going to relapse because I don't want to feel the paain and heart break.  I am just going to take it minute by minute and do a lot of praying.  It alaways help to hear from everyone on here.  I really need the support.  thank you for listening.
Sincerely Vicoaddict
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you havent posted in couple of days hope all is well with you. im still the same and not clean. but coming here everynight really helps and inspires me to do the right thing. QUIT

                                     peace
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hi,  im kinda new to this forum as well about a week or so i found it and it does help to know that there are so many people going through this, and i know what you mean about talking to your dr. and telling him  the truth and how you feel, but like you  im fearful that if i tell him he will cut me off completly, so i understand..  my dr prescribes me the duragesic patch but instead of wearing them like im suppose to i eat them, and i get pills from other sources, i tried several times to cut down but it doesnt work ( at least for me ) so along with everyone else  i wonder what i will do ?  bye for now
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Hi,again to all, i just read the posts and all can say is that i understand what you mean about your husband and i do the same thing you do the funny thing is that all i seem to do anymore is lie not only to my boyfriend but to myself, i keep saying to myself " this time im gonna do it im gonna stop i have to after this script is gone" but it never seems to end  i just keep getting these  fuckin pills so i wont get sick  its not even the high for me anymore, its just so i wont feel like ****.  i just cant function in my everyday life without them. i think to myself " i cant go to work, i cant wash the clothes, i cant , i cant, i cant ... i just feel so lost and alone.  all i think about is PILLS and how to get them and from where im gonna get them and what dr. i can call next..even when i have a good supply of them i always think " what am i gonna do when these are gone"  it is no way to live ! thanks to everyone here i feel that im part of something that many many people are going through, it is monday night and all i can hope for is some sleep tonight... good luck again too all , vicoaddict i hope everything works out for you, and you dont get caught doing what you did, sadly i did something simalar to what you did,and i was scared to death that i wouldnt get caught. and i didnt  but i never did it again.. good luck to you  write back soon bye ..
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hey folks, i am new to this site just finding it today. i knew i wasn't alone but never knew i had such company. i am a plumber and work on large jobs. i have been on lorcet since 1997. i also am on oxycontin. i am in the same boat as you folks and want off. i started tapering myself to 6 a day yesterday. it was the shits. i woke up at 1am and had to eventually take 3 10/650's to get back to sleep 3 hours later. i haven't had any oxycontin since sarurday and really don't miss them. it is the lorcet i am going to fight. there has to be something to help this feeling i am having thru the day and into the night. i haven't told my doc i am getting off in fear of him cutting me off completely. at the same time if there is something i could take to get off this **** i would do it. he has been my doc for years and would be more than understanding ... ( I HOPE ). this forum is very enlightening... i have the utmost in admiration for those of you who are on the backside of the **** sandwhich i am getting ready to eat.
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Amber I couldn't have said it better myself!  Love ya Hon You are one of my many inspirations-Take care--Peace/Prayers Mystere AKA N.O. Lady

Anne
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hi, i just read your post and i know what you mean and it does scare me to think that i could overdose and never see my kids again, but there is a part of me that just doesnt care anymore, i get so sick of the run around and all the bullshit that i go through sometimes to get pills buti still do it over and over again,  i know that i can honestly say that i want to quit but itis  just so hard to do it.   when i take  my pills it seems like  i get everything done that i have to do, i go to work, my house is clean, my kids are takin care of and  in a nut shell the pills make me feel like im a better person when i take them because i do what i have to do. when i dont have them is when  everything starts to  fall apart. im so confused i dont know whatdo to anymore.  i just wish i never ever started taking them, i just want my life  back the way it was before,  can it ever be?  i hope so not only for me butfor the rest of us !!
thanks for understanding... gamzz
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