Withdrawl/ Tapering

[Jeff31]

I was put on Oxycontin, with Percocet for breakthrough pain about a year ago. While awaiting another surgery to my Cervical Spine. I have Severe Disc Degeneration in all of my cervical spine. Now the problem i am having is no doctors will do the surgery, due to the medications. The surgeons say that in order to control the pain after surgey they would have to give me way to much medication to control the post op pain. I dont use the meds for a "high" but that really doesn't matter from what i can see. There will still be some w/d's from the meds. It is comforting to know that one is not alone, while going through these. Im concerned with the tapering side of things, as it is easy to take another pill when you start to feel the slightest amount of discomfort. You all provide a great service here. I know how alone it feels to think that "you" are the only one going through it. So you can add another person to the "I feel alone realm".
Jeff
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[puma]

Swillotter, I have a comment for you way up near the top thread. I just so happened to catch this one now. The comment up above will spell it out for you.

Chatahan

[swillotter]

hi, i'm new here.  I was on heroin for one year until my wife found out.  She flushed it all down the toilet.  I detoxed cold turkey and was miserable, freezing cold for about a month.  then i started up again doing about $10 worth a day for 6 months until she found out again.  I quit all opiates for two years.  then one year ago my freind gave me some oxycontin.  For the last year I've been snorting 40-100mgs. a day and doing about 20-30mgs of hydrocodone along with it plus an occasional bit of heroin.  I've decided to quit the oxy and have been trying to taper with the hydrocodone.  I have 12 5mg. vicodins and just found 30 100mg. darvocets, and 5 10mg. valiums.  I really have to taper off without my wife finding out otherwise she claims she will divorce me for sure (three strikes your out).  I took 15mgs. of valium this morning and 5mgs. vicodin.  I really don't feel so bad.  I also plan on smoking weed and drinking as necessary if the withdrawals get to bad.  This may seem stupid but i am also an alcoholic and have been drinking for over 20 years almost everyday.  Does anyone think i'll be able to taper with the vicodin and darvon? please help me, i really have to function during the week.  I do hard manual labor for work and if i don't work we will be in some serious financial problems. thanks for any advice.

[LissaB]

Hello
I was on methadone for abour 5 years I took over a year to go down from 75 mgs I made it down to 3 mgs and decided to walk off the clinic, I was amazed to find that I am having withdrawal symptoms!  It has been a week and though the symptoms are not severe they are awful.  Mostly backache, excessive bathroom, and not being able to sleep or even rest comfortably also the cold sweat but not as bad as before when I tried to kick.  Loracet helps me to deal with it I do not take more than 2 a day but I worry I may be prolonging my suffering. I have 3 kids so I need to be functional. Does anyone know a way to make this easier or how much longer I will feel bad.
Thanks I know a lot of you are in more acute withdrawal than myself and my heart goes out to you.

[suzieneedshelp]

Well guys i got more stadol from a dr. in atlanta.  Now i intend to taper off..but dont know how discipined i can be.  Any help for beig dicsiplined adn actually tapering?
Ty ty ty for your help and support!
Suzie

[suzieneedshelp]

Will taking another narcotic lesson withdrawal from my drug of choice?  Even thought th e two are very different. I.e. th e stadol is an inhalent.. the darvocet pills
i.e., I'm, addicted to stadol nasal spray. Taking darvocet tonight.  I am feeling very shakey, weird feeling in my mouth, elecrircal feeling in my head,  Restless legs and shoulders.  Want to just sqeeze my muscles tight but get no relief.
Thank you!
Suzie

[suzieneedshelp]

Thank you thank you....sweet jess.  I have never really withdrawn.. Always had supply. A little diarhea or shakes once or twice.  I am cluesless what to expect.  I sent you e-mail as well.  Will I be able to take my daughter to school in the morning?
thank you,
Suzie

[GOD]

A little Info. (specifics may be helpful) :

You said you've been on Stadol for 10 Yrs., Right?

WHat is your PRESCRIBED dose, and how much do you REALLY take?
Being on that medication for so long, have you ever had to go through withdrawals before? Surely, you've had experience with withdrwals in 10 years... There are many helpful hints I can give you regarding withdrawal, Just need to know the specifics!

If you don't feel comfortable writing all the details out on the Post, You can E-mail me at ***@****--

Good luck with your situation, and remember, it DOES get better than this!

Jess

[suzieneedshelp]

my e-mail is ***@****
thank
you....PLEASE HELP ME!

[suzieneedshelp]

I have been addicted to stadol for daily migraines/ headaches for over 10 years.  Now my supply has run out.  I will be starting withdrawal tonight.  I am terrified!  What can i expect?  I have an 8 y o daughter and need to take care of her.. I am doing this all on my own.  No meds, no one knows.  I am simply mortified and terrified.  Someone please e-mail me so i can call them and speak to them on the phone.  I am a professional woman in Fl.  Have a masters degree.
Thank you for your compassion...

[ultimate high]

About the Elavil you posted about.  I was on it for about a year.  My neurologist put me on it as a preventative for migraines and it worked.  But I had to take it at night because it does help you have a restful sleep and that's why they recommend taking it at night no matter what the reason it was prescribed.  Downside for most people is it makes you gain weight,however I wanted to.  I went from 105 pounds to 130 pounds in two months. Craved sweets and just food in general. The doc said that was a little too much weight so I stopped the Elavil and am now down to 120 pounds which is a good weight for me at 5 feet 6 inches.  I was taking 75 mg. per night.  Hope this helps.

[pon]

thanks...let me know your plan...the 4-5 tough days are past...time for a fresh start.  I'll check e-mail and the post in the morning after 9 east coast and write back...off for tonight...hang in there man...you WILL make it...

Have you heard from jeff?  I haven't, let me know if you have...

night,

pon

[Chezz]

I got your email. Thanks, I needed that. Things just went haywire for me inside when I couldn't follow through.
I have a new plan of attack. I post that in a little bit. What time is it there? I hate to think you are staying up LATE. Its only 7pm here.
There is so much I have to say. It has been a tough 4-5 days.
Good job on another night down.





Chezz

[pon]

Pandora is staying in her box...at least for tonight...I take wellbutrin too...didn't know that it had that effect...that maybe why I seem to be getting an easier ride than most.  I take two multis am and pm too.  Oh, that just made me think of something that may be of use to folks...I may have already posted this, but if not....amitryptiline (elavil, a trycyclic antidepressant medication that is NON addictive) is supposed to have a side effect of helping you sleep.  From my understanding it won't help you fall asleep, but it will help you STAY asleep once you do.  I used it when I did a lot of traveling and it worked really well in jet lag situations...any doc will RX it for you, it is harmless...

Chezz, Check your e-mail!

[Chezz]

How you do it I will never know. I couldn't have pills around the house while I was getting clean. That just shows the determination and WILL to quit. That should be enough in itself to show that you have already beat this.
I know the coaster ride isn't over yet for you. But it could be made a little easier. The recipe, mainly the L-Tyrosine does help with reducing the cravings for me at least. I also am happy to be taking wellbutrin. It is said to be helpful in reducing the cravings of addicts as well as curb the depression. As long as it is not an addictive med and can help me, I am going to take it. Which is quite ironic since I can hardly remember to take anything except for my pain meds because I can "feel" them work.
Once again Pon, I admire your will and determination to have the pills around and not take them. On top of all the stress, ect you are having.
Well I guess you are half way to your 28 day goal. You have made it. Just don't open the lid. It's like pandora's box.
Chezz

[Chezz]

You have got alot going on right now. You definitely need to see a doc and get on a program to help you off the meds.
About the ? regarding the pill. I don't know and don't think it is a good place to be asking. We are all trying to get better here. Not exchange info on meds.
I would like to help you. But you 1st need to get to a doc.
Chezz

[DIRTBAG]

WHATS THE ACEITOMEIPHIN DO?  DO YOU THINK SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH ME BESIDES JUST BEING STRUNG OUT?  DO YOU KNOW WHAT A ROUND PINK PILL THE SIZE CODINE WITH A C ON IT AND THE NUMBERS 86/62 IS?  I'M GLAD I HAVE THIS SITE BUT HOW LONG DOES WITHDRAWAL TAKE WITH THE AMOUNT I USE?  I'M KINDA CONFUSED NOW IS SOMETHING GOING TO HAPPEN IF I STOP TAKING THEM THAT'S WORSE THAN TAKING THEM?  WRITE BACK SOON I KNOW I'M KINDA STUPID ABOUT ALOT OF THIS STUFF. I JUST STAY NUMB IN MY OWN WORLD AND HAVE NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT.  I'VE NEVER EVEN ADDED UP MILLIGRAMS. THANKS

[pon]

welcome home...I am glad to see your posts again my friend...I don't know if you realize how much strength I (and I bet many others) draw from you and your posts....but we do.

Hope that the weekend was a little better...I spent mine furiously doing anything I could to keep my mind occupied...too much free time is not good for me right now.  I am at 13 days and the cravings are pretty bad right now.  I'm guessing (aside from the fact that I'm addicted) that it may have to do with a substantial new load of work stress...would be boring to write about it, but it is definetely there and weighing heavy...so, I'm buzzing around like some kind of damn energizer bunny to try to keep my mind off the vikes.  No, I haven't flushed them...made myself a promise that I would have myself a little party on dayy 28 and flush all the bastards while I drank a lemon diet coke and ate a big choclate chip cookie...didn't open the bottle this time, but it is defenitely calling.  I'm surprised at how much stress makes me want them...I suppose I shouldn't be considering how I felt when I took them...oh well...lots of stuff got painted this weekend.

How are you doing?  How are you feeling?  I will e-mail you after this post and reading a few more of the threads...

pon

[pon]

db...it sounds to me like you are using a pretty good amount of vikes and a year isn't a short time frame either.  I know you may not want to hear this right now, but you need to...if you are taking 10+ 550 or 750mg vikes a day, you are getting WAY TOO MUCH acetominephin in your body.  It is very dangerous for your liver to exceed 4000mg/day  and you are lloking at 5500-7500mg/day.  Acetominephin can even be fatal in a single dose of between 7000mg-1g...you only have one liver and you can't live without it.

I know that you are hurting now and that is normal for w/d....but you may be hurting a lot worse if you can't get clean.

You said that you are spending all kinds of money on buying the drugs and rotating between multiple Drs for RXs...how about spending that money on ONE DR to get some help getting off the meds?  A good Dr, if you will open up to them about your addiction, can help you.  They can help you with dealing with the physical aspects of the w/d which seem to be hitting you very hard.  Please think about it DB...you only have on liver and one life...

Come here for help and support too.  None of us are any different from you, yeah some of us took more, some less, some longer time, some shorter, some different meds...point is we are all addicts and we understand your pain and will help as we can...

I think one of the helps you need right now though is to get to a Dr if you can...way too much acetominephin.  Keep posting we're here for you...

[DIRTBAG]

Thanks for the answer, I don't know where I'm at I take 15 to 20 pills a day mostly and always 10.  Vicodin the 550 or the 750 es I didn't know you could but them on the street I go all over to doctors and get precriptions and have a couple do it for me, I pay out tons of money, sometimes ten or twenty a pill. Its so embarrassing.  I have been using these quanities for a little over a year.  I really got going again last September and fell into a depression and went on prozac and all that stuff when I tried to quit. that didn't help and I just went back to the pills nobody knows that I have relapsed. Is this unusual?  I really like this tapering but I can't tell if I'm kidding myself I haven't taken enough to feel it these past couple of days and it is helping me deal with my family.  Write back soon I hope this is enough info.

[Chezz]

The help I was refering to was help from US. The forum. For that we need to know your usage, how long, types of meds. And most of all where you are at now with your addiction. Are you seeing docs, or buying on the street?
We need to know what you are going through so we can read between the lines and let you know what has worked for us, and what may work for you.
Personally I would rather go cold turkey as opposed to tapering. But it is all in the individual. If you are taking 300mg of oxy, I wouldn't recommend tapering. That is what I mean by knowing your situation.
You also need to get the L-Lysine that is recommended in the "recipe". It will help tremendously with the w/d. Also Valium or eguivelant will help with the "heebee jeebees"
Let us know where you are at? We are here to help.
Chezz

[DIRTBAG]

I got my two and boy that helped I am in the office now trying to think about whats important and not pills.  What kind of help do you get I don't understand.  Doesn't that mean spending hours in a doctors office and having to make explainations for my time spent away from here.  Am I kidding myself into thinking that I can pull this taper off by myself?  I hope not I wish someone could give me some kind of time line on how long this **** lasts.  Chezz how many times have you kicked?  This is sort of a first for me off vicodin I in a huge relapse, it has lasted ab out a year this time and I don't want to get caught.  I know you get it.  I'll be here waitng for a response and I hope your day is good and that your fine with yourself today.  Peace

[Chezz]

Thanks Dirtbag. But it sounds like you need a little more help right now.

I will write more after my wife comes home for lunch.

Hope you feel a little better from the couple pills you could get. We ALL know the feeling.
Chezz

[DIRTBAG]

OKAY ITS MONDAY AND I AM DYING INSIDE I ALREADY THREW UP AND I AM GETING READY TO DRIVE THIRTY MILES FOR 2 PILLS, HOW STUPID I HOPE THIS TAPER IS THE RIGHT THING I WISH SOMEONE AROUND ME COULD UNDERSTAND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING GOOD LUCK TODAY I HOPE THAT I CAN MAKE IT ON TWO TODAY.  PEACE I'M THINKING OF YOU CHEZZ

[pon]

I'm not splittin' yet...I'll be on here everyday until I have at leeast 28 under my belt...I got your e-mail address--I'll write you after work east coast time...hang in there man.

pon