addiction to pain killers

[mlg2911]

Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum. I'm writing to ask if anyone has had success trying the Thomas method(I think that's what it's called), started using vicodin after a c-section to deliver my son. Due to further complications they kept me on the meds. Now two years have gone by and i don't want to take them anymore, trying to do it myself by slowly tapering off. 4/ 7.5mg per day. Didn't think it would be that hard, I'm on my 4th day of taking only 2 pills a day.  I'm having a really hard time with withdrawl symptoms. If anyone has had success with this method I would really appreciate any advice that can be given.  Thanks.

[avisg]

mlg, Welcome ,
I tapered down I think it really helped me recover faster in the end . If you can do it thats great !!!!! You will have some discomfort but it wont be as rough as CT ..... You can do this .There is alot of support  here ...... post often .
avis

[Chi_Chi_Lover]

I didn't find the thomas recipe to help at all but other swear by it. I tappered from 30 hydros a day down to one half a pill then CT over a month. I still had horrible WD for 2 full weeks. It's different for everyone and depends on how long and how much you used. You will have WD no matter what it just may not be as bad as some. I used xanax when I couldn't stand the WD and ambien to sleep for about 6 months only one at night. I'm clean for almost a year. Never felt better

[mlg2911]

Thanks for taking the time to write your thoughts and advice. Today is my 5th day and for some odd reason, I woke up this morning and didn't feel the urge to take any of my pills.  I had a rough night and thought for sure it was going to be another day in this horrible hell.  I'm not sure what happened or why my body is not craving the meds as much as yesterday.  The only ingrediant that i was able to obtain (so far) for the recipe is the vit. B6.  I haven't had the strength to get up and go anywhere, however my husband takes a lot of vitamins(he's very much into keeping his health in check) so I just asked him if I could have some of his.  He does not know what I am going through and  hopefully I won't have to tell him.  He is the most wonderful and amazing person I know, and I would hate to dissapoint him, therefore I am on my own.  This is the only place I have that I can be totally honest and ask for help from others in the same situation.  I only had a habit of 4/7.5 vicodin a day. For anyone who doubled or tripled that amount and is fighting to kick the habit I have nothing but respect for you, for this is a debilitating situation and anyone trying to regain control of their lives is worth being commended. Thanks again and hang in there.
     Oh, by the way, I've also been taking hot baths and steamy showers. It really, really helps with the restless leg sensation.

[localcelebrity]

This is the place for help.  Just reading these posts help me more than anything.  This is a great group of people who truly care and never pass judgement.  I check this forum more than my MYSPACE!!!

[GoingToMakeIt]

Well hopefully you can tell your husband. It helps so much to have your spouses support. I like Epsom salts in the hot baths. It forces magnesium into the muscles. Good job on day 5! The worse of the withdrawals are over.

[mlg2911]

Thanks for the recommending the Epson salt.  I hadn't thought of using it.  I have so much on my mind. My baby is constantly asking to be held and the awful feeling that i am experiencing in my legs is really making it difficult to carry him or let him climb on me as he's used to doing.  Unfortunately, telling my husband is not an option at this point.  He is a very healthy minded individual and I actually think he would be confused by what I'm going through, especially because I've been able to keep it from him for so long.  I'm going to keep posting and reading everyone's comments.  Day 5 of tapering off is almost over and hopefully I won't have to been looking at the clock every hour on the hour tommorow.  That's what I started doing on day one.  I tried to go a couple of hours each day without taking the meds. Slowly I was going longer and longer without the urge.  It's been 21 hrs. since I had a half a pill( 1/2 of 7.5 vik).  I'm watching the clock and planning on giving myself a little pat on the  back for clearing 24hrs. I can finally say  I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak.  For anyone who is just starting whether it is cold turkey or tapering the way I did, please hang in there, it does get better.  

[toxictome]

Welcome to the forum. It's a great place to get help, support and advice...or experience, strength, and hope!!!
Congrats on your taper..i tapered also ...7.5 vics.  The wd's were tolerable .. rls was the worst...and i still have it..but it is getting better. I am on day 16..so you're doing great!!!

Keep posting....

[sancho26]

Hi this is my first post here... I've been taking norco 10/325 for almost 2 years and I take 120 a month but have just run out today. I have no idea what this "thomas recipe" is but would really like any ideas that could help. I was thinking about doing it with out anything just toughing it out but do you guys really think it'll be easy like that? hope you guys can help me out... and sorry i can't help the first person on the thread because i can't even help myself lol

[sancho26]

120 pills a month sorry for not being specific

[mlg2911]

Welcome to our forum. I was reading your post, but I wasn't quite sure what you were taking.  However, Ito answer your question; Ie did take some of the ingrediants that the "Thomas Recipe" suggests and they did help quite a bit.  I take the vitamin B6 that is rec. and I also just went to the health food store and bought the broad spectrum mineral and the L-tyrosene.  I have had so much energy today even my husband was asking me if everything was okay.  I said, "better than you know, sweetheart! " I was lucky enough to be able to live through the withdrawals all by my self at home, my hubby was at work and my son at daycar.  Believe me I cried, screamed, prayed and did just about anything I could to stop the pain my body was in.  Had to act as normal as possible once my husband and son came home.  By far the hardest thing I've ever had to do.
    I am now on day 6th with tons of energy (was dragging the first few days).   Another odd thing that is happening is that my skin is clearing up so quickly.  I never put the two together, but I think the toxins from the meds. were making me break out.  Never had them before and now my face is soooo clear.  This was the best decision I've ever made for myself and my family.  My husband has his wife back and my son has his  mommy back.  Please hang in there, it really does get better and people around you wull start to notice the difference in your personality .  Maybe not during the first week, but soon after you will start seeing the sunshine and the sky in a whole different light(so to speak)  I took my first breath of nothing but fresh clean air today and boy did it feel so good!  I'm here to help anyone that may need to chat.  I think I'm pretty much out of the w/d phase.  And I can't believe the change in my spirit, mind and soul.  Freedom Tastes so goood!   Keep trying please, don't ease up.  You can do it.

P.S. Still taking hot baths and steamy showers, it really helps with the restless leg sensation.  I also use a small  electrical  heating pad that i keep next to my bed, so I can warm my legs up a little before I fall asleep.

                                                         Hope some of this has been helpful,

                                                                         Good Luck

[adog]

Congrats.

I cant wait to get to that point I have decided to start weening today. I just hope I am tough enough, I really want this but I cant even imagine life without them. I'm sure after a few days, I will and also Im hoping I remember how good it was. I wish I never ever started but like everyone I thought it could never happen to me. Oh well no pupose for crying over spilled  mile I need to make this happen. Your post is an inspiration it good to not fell alone

[sancho26]

I'm glad you're getting a lot better and I hope you get completly away from the meds for good!!! I still haven't seen any light at the end of the tunnel though... I was saying that I take the 10mg norcos (vicoden) but I wanted to try to quit without using any vitamins or anything just trying to tough it out but I think I'm going to go out and buy the vitamin B-6 and L-tyrosene. I honestly still can't imagine living the rest of my life without the painkillers, it still seems like life was a lot better with them. I hope I can start feeling better like you do and your story is a huge inspiration. Thank you so much for your help and I hope we can all get through... The big problem I'm having is the Restless legs sensation, it's so painful.  I try taking hot baths but it only goes away for a little bit. Does that begin to get any better? because I don't know how much I can take it anymore...

[mlg2911]

Hi glad your back.  I'm glad you're thinking of going out there to buy the vit.  I think the B6 is what really helped me get out the door after I spent almost 3 days completely trapped in my house.  It hurt so much to even get out of bed, much less brush my hair and make myself look presentable.  After taking the B6, i had an immediate surge of energy (remember,this is after the 3 days that i was at home) I eventually was able to go out and get the rest of the ingred.  I am now on day 7th and....wow! I was hit hard once again.  I've had a pretty rough day. (still nothing like the first few days) I've been really struggling with the Restless leg syndrome.  It's horrible, so I did a little research and I know they have a new med out there called ("Lyrica")sp?? I''m going to make an appt. with a neurologist and find out if he/she can prescribe it to help get through this phase.  It's the hardest part for me because I can't sleep and I have a 2 yr old son with lots of energy and needs to be taken care of.  My husband has been doing most of the work, because he thinks I'm sick with flu like symptoms.  I decided to take an over the counter sleep aid to help me sleep last night. BAD MOVE!!! I ended up getting the opposite effect of the drowsiness, I ended up with the hyperactivity instead.  That has never happened before, so I'm assuming it's just the fact that my body is going through so much right now, with the detoxing and all. I really screwed my self up.  Now I'm scared I won't be able to sleep, due to the RLS.  It seems to be getting a little worse.  Some one posted on this link just a few paragraphs up from yours( toxictomi) they said they were on their 16th day and still experiencing the restless legs. So, I decided to seek some help for that .  I'll let you all know how that ends up.  Need a little help so that I don't relapse due to this horrible sensation.
      Keep your spirits up, we are all different, therefore we won't all suffer EXACTLY the same.  I'm just telling my story incase anyone out there is also having a little trouble getting over that last little hump.  However, I'll tell you what I'm not gonna do.... I am never touching one of those pills again.  And believe me, they are on my counter staring at me whenever I need to use my vanity.  I keep them there on purpose.  I quietly tell them they aren't going to win. (my own little way of feeling stronger) HAHA!

[suffernomore]

I had the same problem with any kind of pain killer...hydrocodone, oxy's, percocet's, ultram, etc.  When I was unable to get the pills from the internet (which I easily spent thousands of dollars on), I would fake a cough and then spend more money at an urgent care clinic to get some form of cough medicine with hydrocodone in it.  I eventually fell in love with Tussionex, which is the strongest from of cough med out there.  It is also the most expensive!  I won't go into detail about how I almost went bankrupt and ruined my life, but I almost did!  I was so constipated, I looked like I was pregnant.  My legs and feet ended up so swollen. I would stuff my huge feet into my shoes and endure the pain, get home from work, and take more once I got my slippers on.  No one knew about my addiction, and no one knows to this day.  I finally got help.  I read a post on the internet just like this one about Suboxone.  Only certain doctors can prescribed it, so I googled it for physicians in my state.  I found a great doctor who listened to me and treated me without judgement.  I have been seeing him for two months now, and he is tapering me off slowly using this life saving medicine.  I have lost 40lbs, saved my friendships that were almost done because I was such a hermit, and I feel so good.  Do I crave it?  Of course, but I tell myself "NO" because it was no way to live.  It's almost like I was asleep for the last 3 years.  So many things are just a blure to me.  So, now it's your turn to look up who prescribes Suboxone and get help.  My visits are covered by insurance and so is the medication.  It's much cheaper than what I was spending.  Once you get sober, you will remember how good life is.  Even the air is different.  I will never be ashamed of what happened because we all make mistakes and learn from them.  I know I learned probably the most from my addiction and it makes me cherish life twice as much. Take care

[mlg2911]

I have only ever taken Hydrocodone, i guess this was the reason I thought getting off of them woul be no problem.  That was definitley not the case.  I'm on day 7 and was somewhat upset that i was having a bad day, because yesterday I had one of the most wonderful days I had had since all this started.  So I was somewhat surprised that I was feeling that low, I thought things would only get better.  Oh well, I dealt with it (especially the RLS) and all though I wasn't the nicest person to my husband(doesn't know what i'm dealing with) I made it all the way through the day.  Now I'm ready to turn in and I hope tommorrow will be a good day.  
   What kind of physician did you talk to. Can it be a regular MD like my family dr., or does it have to be some one that deals with detox specifically.  I'm not sure what qualifications a doctor must have in order to perscribe the Suboxone.  I'm still trying to do it on my own, because i don't want to trade one med for another, but just incase I relapse I would really like to know what kind of DR. you went to.
     I look forward to reading your post and finding out how to go about doing this with help if necessary.

                                                    Good Luck and Take Care

[GoingToMakeIt]

A sub Dr has to be approved to dispense it. Go to naabt.org and or suboxone.com. There you can find Dr.s near you. If you are already on day 7, (Congratulations) you don't need the sub to get through the withdrawals.

[toxictome]

If your're on day 7 you DO NOT want to get on suboxone..
you are over the worst of the wd symptoms.  You will have good days with some not as good days mixed in.
You may have rls for a while..everyone reacts different, but it takes time to get all the  toxins out of our systems..you are doing great...hang in there and keep posting!!!

[sancho26]

I'm really sorry and sad to hear you weren't feeling too well today, I thought that everyday was going to get better for you but these pain killers don't want to go away with out a fight huh? lol. Well I hope you feel better tomorrow (probably today when you read this). I'm on day 2 or 3 i can't really remember because the days seem so long and I don't even want to think about it lol. I took some advil PM to sleep and it worked fine with me, might be something that'll work for you too who knows...  You know I have a couple of bottles of "Lyrica" my doctor gave them to me for nerve damage but I didn't know they were good for RLS. If you go to the doc please let me know how many you're supposed to take. It doesn't say on the bottle and I can't remember. I have the 75mg and 150 mg. They told me I had to start with the lower dosage and work my way up to like 200mg. but that was a while back so I can't really remember. Well I look forward to reading your posts and everyone elses who are going through the same or have went through it at some point. PLEASE PLEASE if you find a way to get rid of the restless legs sensation let me know because that's what's really killing me. keep posting everybody let's get through this..... I'll keep posting too to let you all know how i'm slowly proggresing.... I guarantee when I'm through with this i'll be on here trying to help ppl going through this but sorry I can't really help now because I'm still in the begging of it....

[mlg2911]

Well, as you read yesterday(day7) was a nightmare for me.  I don't know how I made it through, but I did.  I think I'm going to hold off on the suboxone, I was feeling so desp. yesterday I didn't know what else to do.  I'm feeling a little better this morning, but I'm still somewhat feeling the hot/cold w/ds.  I woke up this morning and realized that I was putting my needs and wants for the meds. in front of my family.  I couldn't believe how horrible I was treating my husband, but I couldn't help it.  Everything he said or did rubbed me the wrong way.  I ended up calling my in-laws and they came and took care of my baby.  I locked myself in my room and didn't come out until this morning.  What in the world am I doing? This stuff is taking over my life.  I'm going to end up without a husband if I don't straighten up.  Well, on to dealing with day (8).  Not having the best start, but at least I managed to peel myself out of bed.  Please write in with any advice, I could really use it.  I'll be checking in during the day, so that I can see how everyone else is doing.
                                                                      Take Care

[oneeagle]

I am so sorry that no one could tell you that it was easy - but remember now, you put a couple of years effort into getting here - it wont be over in a few days. I had a long (back to nam) habit and it took me longer than most to take care of business. Glad you peeled yourself out of bed today! Congrats on that and your effort - you are so very close you gotta stick with it - yesterdays anxiety will be subsiding bit by bit also - and tomorrow will just keep getting better. Good luck to you

[mlg2911]

It's been about 2 hrs since I last checked in.  My hubby is off to work and my baby in daycare.  I've got the whole day to  think about what I've done to myself and my family.  I have never been addicted to anything in my life and always prided myself on being a strong indep. woman. Realizing that I had a problem was a big step.  I thought it would take little to no effort to stop the meds.  I don't get a high from them, they don't make me feel euphoric in any way.  All they did was stop the pain I was having.  I've had friends tell me how good vik. makes them feel. I don't get that. Never did, which is why I think I didn't see this as a problem in the first place.  Well, high or not, now I'm dealing with the horrible w/ds just like everyone else.
I don't know about anyone else, but I have not had much of an appetite.  I just realized I've had almost nothing to eat for 2 days.  Is anybody else having this effect?  I forced myself to put down a piece of toast, and I do mean FORCED.
I am now off to enjoy a little bit of the nice weather we're having.  Just reading everyone's advice and experiences is more help than you will ever know.  I have to say my mood gets a little better every time some one posts a new comment.  
Thank you all again, for EVERYTHING. Can't tell my husband, can't tell my family, so this forum has truley been a blessing.
   Stay strong and hang in there.

[Jacqui805]

While on day 23 I'm still in w/d, I will tell you that not being able to eat ended for me at about day 7, and I was able to force down some small bits of food over the next few days.  After that, it was gone, and I became super hungry and still cannot get enough food.  I cannot seem to hydrate myself despite drinking something all day and all night long, but I'm not in danger.  The rls thing took me by surprise and at first really drove me crazy.  I still have it, a little in one leg only.  That definitely improved, and is improving.  I still sneeze, in three's.  I have a weird cough.  Those two things are the same.  The wicked headache I had is SO much better.  The wicked body aches are better too.  I lost the diarrhea, nausea and vomiting after 7 days too.  I can relate to your comment about not getting high from the med.  Mine (fentanyl) did not do that to me either, so I never became addicted, but did become dependant.  Either way w/d sucks.  The anxiety/sleeplessness/restlessness is the worst for me.  I have heard from others like me who're going through this on a much longer basis than some.  The length depends entirely on the drug that was used, the length of time on it, the dose, and the person.  It's hard to say how long you'll be going through this, but you're heading in the right direction.  Bravo!!!!!!  We're here for you.

[Jacqui805]

sorry, the above post, I meant to put your name.

[Angeleyez28]

Kinda ironic-that's EXACTLY how I got addicted-after my C section-been on em for about 4 yrs. & I'm currently on Day 9 & it's still hard!! The physical w/d symptoms are gone-but not the mental effects (cravings, dreams, NO energy, no appetite). However, it was harder 4 me bcuz I went c/t. I just got soo sick of depending on those 2 get up in the morning-the pain is still there-but not as bad. U HAVE 2 be ready 2 do this-it's soooo hard!! I wish I could tell u it's easy-but ti's not-at all. The only thing that helped me through this was my VERY supportive & helpful fiancee (u have 2 have someone 2 help out), my prescribed Xanax, & a little pot. Not condoning that-just telling u what worked 4 me. I am really rootin 4 u-I KNOW u can do it!! If I can-anybody can!! This site will REALLY keep u motivated-it's helped me sooo much!! Plz keep us posted-I'm right there with ya!!! Keep your head up, hon-we can get through this 2gether!! *Angel*

[sancho26]

I know that w/d are supposed to be different for every person but sounds like we all got about the same things, maybe some stronger symptoms then others but it sounds like most of us have the rls, lack of appetite, and mostly the same effects. It doesn't sound like anybody here should be labled a "Drug Addict" because we all have legit reasons for taking them and the best thing is that we're all trying to stop. Even if you don't have legit reasons I hate that label now and all that matters is that we're all going to quit. I know we'll all make it sooner or later. I hope in less then a month or whatever we'll all be here posting about how great life is without the meds, so please don't quit posting if ya made it lol because we all need the inspiration and we want to know how everyones doing. This site has been a lot of help and it's nice to know there's people to talk to that are going through the same thing, even though I wish none of us was but hey let's get through this... I'm 21 years old and been married for 4 years with the most perfect wife i could ask for and anheleyez you're right it helps a lot when you have someone at home that supports you but it's still hard because i've been taking the meds for half my marriage and I'm ready to get over this part of my life. I have a 12 hour job (nights) and my own landscaping business in they day that I run and also I go to school full time so yeah it's not fun but I got to get through this for my wife and myself...sorry if anything's mispelled i have to type pretty fast because time is money lol... keep posting everybody

[mlg2911]

what can I say, but THANK-YOU sooo very much.  It's been about 5 hours since I last posted, the morning started out a little shakey.  I was certain I was going to have another bad day. Well guess what???? It didn't happen... Can't explain why, other than the fact that I ate a bit.  I got up, got dressed, and out the door I went.  I was fully expecting to turn right around and spend the rest of the day moping around.  I said a little prayer, put on my seat belt, turned up the radio and off I went.  I can't explain what a great day I had. I was able to do just about everything I had told myself I wanted to do. HA! I even went and bought groceries. (Groceries were the last thing on my mind, a few days ago) I picked up my baby from daycare (earlie) and took him to the bookstore.  I had total control.  Something I haven't felt since I started on the meds.  It was giving birth to him that started this mess, and the fact that I have to be here for him that's going to end it.  I hope to have more days like this one ahead, and i definitley hope to hear more  of the same from you guys out there.  I will keep posting until I feel I am completely out of the woods and will stay around and help anyone who needs to talk.  I have done this without being able to talk to anyone.(Too many people in my family in the medical field, including my husband).  They would be heartbroken if they knew how close to home addiction or dependency really is. So, I'm on my own, so to speak, but at least I know I have you guys and this forum for support.  Thank You Everyone.
   Hang in there, I think I see the light.!!!!!
Please forgive all of my spelling mistakes and bad grammer, I have somehow forgotten how to spell and speak in correct sentences.  Is anyone else having the same trouble?

[sancho26]

nice to hear you had a good day and I hope they're all like that from now on. Hey You said on an earlier post that you were thinking about taking Lyrica. Well I've been doing a lot of research on it and I'm not sure if that's the way to go. There's a lot of people who actually got addicted to it too and I don't think you want to trade one for the other so just thought I'd let you know what i found out but who knows it might work for you. I was thinking about taking the Lyrica that I have but I'm not taking any chances of going through more withdrals when I quit that too. They say it's not as addictive but it can still cause dependancy. I'm sorry to hear that you can't tell your hubby but you still have us to talk to and it sounds like your getting better so it'll be ok. This will all be behind you soon...

[MEECHI33823]

I am coming off 18 to 20 vicoprofins a day. After a 3 year addiction. It did not start that way it was 1 3 times a day. I am clean 8 days today. Cold turkey. It was flat out miserable I was watching the hours go by. I hate to say it but if you can have a mini vaction of 3 to 4 days the hard part of withdrawl will be over after the second day it stops being your main focus and then the pain lets up a little at the time. I was a hermit for 4 days loaded up on junk food and babied myself. No cooking, cleaning, only computer stuff t.v. and journaling. journaling helps a lot. good luck and God Bless. My husband had to fin for himself and I am sad to say I was suffering and still am over the loss of my grandmother who I lost January 20th she lived with us as we cared for her for 6 years.

[worried878]

BTW...oneeagle is great! (I hope you read this)  I am on day 5 and he has helped me every step of the way!  he is supportive and knows lots of tips to help...I was a 80 mg a day lortab user for 2 years...used before that but not heavy use...I am fortunate in that I have felt better each day with day 1 being my worst day...like they say...everyone is different...but I prepared for the worst...and was pleasantly surprised...I found exercise to be my key and the recipe...by no means do I want to say this is a piece of cake and I could wake up tomorrow feeling awful...but I have been on pills and feeling awful anyway for quite a while..they did not make me feel good anymore...they made me feel weak...etching away at my self esteem...at the person I used to know...I feel bursts of happiness here and there today....it is truly unbelievable how good I fell about myself and i did it alone...with this forum

[mlg2911]

Good morning to all.  Hope everyone was able to get a bit of sleep last night.  Sancho26, thank-you for taking the time to do the extra research on the "Lyrica".  I tried to see a neurologist, but they had a 2 month wait, so I didn't push it.  I'm glad I didn't because, I no longer have RLS.  Today is day 9 for me, so the last time I felt it, was on day 7. Yesterday, I went the entire day without feeling a thing.  Haven't even needed to take a hot bath.  By the way, that really helped relax my legs before I went to sleep during the worst of it.
Today feels pretty much like yesterday,  I have a good amount of energy and no RLS.  Looks like I'm getting back in my car and not coming home for a while.  I need to keep myself busy, so that I'm not watching every hour on the hour go by.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I think I'm over the worst part of it.  Now it has to be pure willpower and a lot of prayer.
Please write back and keep me posted on how you're feeling, it's great to know that we are not alone in this!!!

[mimi1313]

Hi,

First Congratulations on day 9. It will get better from here. If you can try to exercise. It really does help, especially with the rls.
I'm glad you decided to do more research on Lyrica. It can cause dependence and have withdrawal effects if you suddenly stop taking it. It is also a class 5 controlled substance.

Melissa

[mlg2911]

Mimi1313, Thanks for the info.  I didn't know it was an addictive drug, but I guess I should have figured that much.  Seems like everything out there has some kind of dep. attatched to it. They have so many commercials on drugs for RLS.  I see one at least every two hours.  My mom is on Lyrica and it has done wonders for her.  She's no longer in pain due to RLS.  She's been in pain for years, she just never wanted to take anything, but she finally gave in.  However, she's on it for that specific reason, not because she's trying to get over something else.  I thought of taking it for the w/ds, but I'm happy to say, the RLS is gone.
I have a little less energy today, than I did yesterday.  WHAT A ROLLERCOASTER!!!! Still, I'm not looking back.
Hope everyone is staying strong and thinking about all the advice they have read from others either in, or past the stage of w/ds.  Still can't say i'm 100%, but I'm closer than I've been in a long time.
                         Take Care

[sancho26]

I think the worst is behind me (i hope). I took my last painkiller on Friday so i'm on day 5 and I feel fantastic. Day 4 and 5 for me have been reall good. I even went to the gym yesterday and i'm planning on going today as well. Who would of thought that I would have energy to do that a few days ago but I feel pretty good. I thought the RLS would never go away but it's pretty much gone. I had a hard time trying to sleep every night because of the RLS but I haven't had it these last two days. Before I went to gym I took my doog out for a run. I've been taking some products from Herbalife (my parents sell it so I get it free LOL) and it's worked wonders so far. I don't know if it'll work for everyone but they have a product called "Relax Now" which I take 3 times a day and I think it's what's getting me by. I also take "Sleep Now" when I'm going to sleep but I haven't needed it the last 2 days. I will say this I felt a HUGE diffence when I started taking Herbalife, don't know if it'll work for everyone but just trying to help someone who's looking for something to use that isn't addictive at all. Not sure how much it costs because my parents gave them to me. My parents told me that what worked for my RLS was the some pills called "Xtra-Cal" and "Joint Support". If you can't stand the RLS you might want to try them because it worked for me. I wouldn't even know where you can buys these but you can probably get them online or someone probably sells Herbalife where you live? well anyways YAY!!!! I finally remember what it's like to get some sleep without any meds!!!!! That's 2 days in a row!!!! let's keep it going. Oh and I had a friend who offered to give me vicoden 10's and i said NO!!!! lol it was nice to not give in a few days ago I probably would of taken them...

[mlg2911]

CONGRATS!  So happpy to hear that everything is going well.  I'm just now reaching the end of day 14, WOW what a difference!  My family came to visit, and at first I thought I was going to freak out, but little by little the distraction of having them here started to help.  We were out and about all week, and by the time I knew it, 4 days had gone by, and everything was great!!  Just a week ago, I was in pain and didn't know if I was going to be able to get past this, but I did, and so will you.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed and wishing everyone out there the best.   I can't thank you enough.  I don't know how I could have done this without this forum and all the great advice you posted.  Please believe me when I say, "Things really do get better".  It takes time and dedication, but believe me, in this case,"The Grass is Greener On The Other Side."  Hang in there and I hope to hear that everyone is still going strong.

[sancho26]

Thank you, it is a HUGE difference isn't it? You know I think that's probably one of the best things you can do have good friends or family with you and you'll find yourself being distracted and you'll enjoy yourself believe it or not. I know it's hard since I can imagine everyone just kind of wants to be left alone but it helps to have someone make you laugh. I'm happy to hear your doing so great and i'm pretty sure it's all just going to get better and better from here on out. I agree "the grass is greener on the other side" and you will feel the difference even though you think it will never happen when you're in your first days. ANYONE please if you're going through this stay on this forum it WILL help and if you need any help please write. Take it from mlg2911 and me your life will be better when you decide to quit, it wont be easy but it will be worth it. Good luck mlg2911 and I hope everything is going good with your new baby and your husband.

[sancho26]

sorry i said "going good" in the last sentecne i meant going "well" but I do it all the time lol

[1911]

Keep going you are doing (almost) all the right things.  

I went through hell Jan-Feb 07 and have been clean since. I was afraid to tell my wife during WD, but soon realized I was kidding myself.  Once I told her, she pitched in to help because she wanted the "old me" back.  

My suggestion is to tell  your spouse.  You need his help getting through withdrawl as well as in maintenance.  

Good luck.
GEORGE

[mlg2911]

Hellos everyone, I know it's been a while since I last posted.  I'm happy to report that I'm absolutely over the worst part of the w/d.  I haven't felt this good in sooo long.  I'm at the end of day 24 and things are definitely looking up.  I can't believe how things have changed.  A few weeks ago I didn't know how I was going to make it through the day, now  I'm back at the gym and going about my day like I used to.  I think back to the days when my body was hurting so bad and I couldn't stop crying ,seems like a life time ago.  You're definitely right Sancho26, it did help to have my family around.  I found it rather annoying at first, but after the first couple of days, I was so happy to be around them.  I was sad to see them go, but I knew I had to focus on my recovery.  I hope everyone is doing well and please take it from me, It does get better...  Oh, does it get better.  :}

[feohmoon]

Congratulations!  That is an awesome achievment - I cannot wait to post day 24...
Best of luck!!!

[catchiec]

I have helped several people that have listened to me please try this.
You can detox in 5 days. Take 25mgs of methadone the first day, 20 the second 15 the third, 10 the 4th and 5 the 5th. This will help you to skip all withdrawal symptoms of  the oxys and after only 5 days you will have no physical dependence on methadone. after day 5 you have to stop taking the meth and after 5 days you are off of both pills with no withdrawals whatsoever and Bam toy have your life back.

People will tell you not to mess with Methadone because it has the worst withdrawals lasting weeks and months. This is true if you become dependent on it but it gives people no high inless they take a shitload of it so if you really want to get off pills there is no reason you should want to keep taking methadone. This has worked for myself and several people who could not afford to take time off work. As long as you do not take the methadone more than 5 days you should be totally safe.
If you go to a clinic they will try.  to keep you on methadone a long time and you will become hooked. I know from experience the 5 day detox will work. But you can not take it more then 5 days after 7 or 8 days you might become physically dependent on it. after only taking it a month you can have long horrible withdrawals but at that low a dose and lowering it 5 mgs for only 5 days each day I have never seen this not work perfectly and i've done it and so have 5 other people I know to get their life back. I really want to help which is why i'm telling you this. I could have never taken time off from work.

Now before you disregaurd my advice since people will try to scare you away from methadone please read how I explained it carefully and you can decide if it makes sense. Oh and dont take oxys well on methadone again the methadone is only to mask the withdrawal symptoms of the oxys you wont feel any while on the methadone but if you do this remember it works but you must not take it longer then 5 days and you must lower the dose each day. 25mgs is a very low dose people in clincs are usually on anywhere from 80 to a 120 when they start but you dont need anywhere near that much anyway you decide the best way to detox for you but I am being honest in telling you how well the 5 day detox plan worked. If you have questions feel free to email me I will be very honest.

[jamielee55]

I haven't heard of that, but I was on oxys for years and I got on suboxone, and it saved my life. No withdrawls and no craving. You should think about this as an option.