am i at risk for seizure or heart attack?

[fibrocentric]

I have been taking tramadol as prescribed since september of 09 but am tapering.

Can I take tylenol pm at night to sleep? Will it hurt me to drink a glass of wine?

I have hypertension as well that my doctor is not controlling. I am so scared.

[PayneB]

eh... typing in a hurry..  

what i meant to say in one part was taking your medicine in the morning(low dose only) and then later on that night if you drink a few glasses of wine or beer and blaze something then it will likely not hurt you.. but I wouldn't do either of them at the same time.. that's just me personally..
okay..
Peace

[PayneB]

Hey, how's it going.. I responded to your other question about Tramadol just Recently..  I had an addiction to Tramadol for a good 3 years.. I also dabbled in harder opiates when I ran out of tramadol to cover the withdrawals.. I ended up withdrawing from stronger opiates such as Oxycodone and buprenorphine because of this.. and the withdrawal from those were easier for me to go through than the tramadol withdrawal.. .I used tramadol mainly for it's snri effects it made me productive and stop doing regular drugs like lsd, weed etc.. but in the end all it did was dig me into a hole of sickness whenever I'd run out... on top of all that.. I study drugs and pharmacology for a living.. so I am very well versed on medicine.. metabolism.. side effects and such with these drugs..
     Now to start, Tramadol is a very dangerous opioid to play around with simply because once you get to the recreational level with it.. your seizure threshold is lowered quite a bit meaning.. people that have never had a seizure in their Life can have a seizure very easily on tramadol.. some people even have them at lower doses.. thank god i never had one cause at one point I was taking up to 20 50 mg pills a day.. it was very stupid.. I tapered down and quit.. tramadol does raise your heartrate and bp.. because of it's serotonin and norepinephrine qualities. have u ever noticed that you'd take tramadol and then start cleaning the house or doing mad **** that you usually don't have energy for? that's the snri component at work.. also on the Flip side.. withdrawing from Tramadol can cause the same thing.. (but without the extra energy :( lol..  so you do have to moniter for that as well.. Clonidine is a very good medicine for this it helps alleviate opiate withdrawal symptoms and lowers blood pressure.. ask your doc about it..   You are not suppose to drink on any opiate medicine of course.. however if you say take your tram in the morning.. and then at night have a glass of wine or 4 it's not gonna kill u. in fact if your worried about the possibility of seizures from tramadol.. the alcohol effecting gaba in your brain may help prevent such a thing.. but of course if your on a high dose of tram(it has a long half life btw..and so does it's metabolite) then I would steer clear of all alcohol..  as respiratory depression can occur when mu opioid agonists are mixed with alcohol.. but you get what I'm saying with the timing of it all and such.. Marijuana can be used with tramadol. I personally though like before wait  a long while before toking and drinking simply because the norepinephrine that the tram effectss(that energy I was talking about) can cause mor paranoia than usuall if you are predisposed to that sort of thing from weed..  but taking your medicine in the morning and then knocking back a few(just a few mind u) and toking a bowl or two are not likely to do much to hurt you.. but bear in mind that everyones bodies react differently so start small at first to test the waters..tools for getting off tram include.. .clonidine, (I used codeine syrup but that devoloped into more wd so stay away from other opies if u can), and kratom as well.. also beware kratom can create it's own addiction.. the best way to get off tram is to slowly taper.. reduce your dosage.. little by little..  hope that you got thru the other side of this okay.. if u want to know anything else. just hit me back!!
B

[fibrocentric]

thanks for your comments. the glass of wine was just something that i though might help me calm down. i don't like to take ativan because it puts me in a sleepy coma. add to that the fact that it seems kind of stupid to take another narcotic to help get me off of a narcotic.

i go to a community health care center and can't get into see my dr for another 11 days. since i can't write about my taper i can't tell you guys how much i take. i can tell that i wait a good 8 to ten hours after taking my a dose before i have a glass of wine. i don't believe i am dual addicted, but who knows at this point?

i know i am going to suffer from some wd's, i just want to minimize them as much as possible. i have a family to care for and a business to run. i am so d**n mad at myself for not researching this med the moment it was prescribed to me. if i had known i don't think i would've taken it.

[LeaAnn807]

Hi!  You need to see a doctor for your BP while you are tapering.  It will probably go down after you stop the tram though.  For now....see a doc.  Don't want the BP to spike.  

No drinking!  That isn't going to help and could possibly hurt.  It can't be good, and if you look at your bottle of tram, I bet it says avoid alcohol.  It is just a BAD combo.  

I am glad you are tapering.  The doc who is helping you needs to look after your BP, ok?

[Stevo977]

It's when you abuse/misuse these medications that you become prone to seizures and such. It is highly recommended by us ( non of which are doctors, but quite a few work in the medical field) that you taper off of tramadol. I'm no expert, but I'm quite sure that tramadol has no beneficial use to hypertension. Probably makes it worse. Take the medication that you need and get rid of the ones you don't because, in the end, they will do you more harm than good.

Just sit back and think when you take your Tramadol and the rush of energy/euphoria that you feel, how much you get accomplished, and what it does for you NOW. Pretty soon, you will be taking it to keep from getting sick and that is no way to live.

After getting the Tramadol out of your system, you will realize that hypertension will more than likely not be a problem. Wine is fine in moderation. Alot of us are duel/addicted so we couldn't do that but maybe you can.

If we live by the sword, we die by the sword.....
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[avisg]

Tramadol is a highly addictive drug .That many here have and are addicted to it ...If you take to much you are a risk for seizures ..

taking tramadol tylenol pm and some wine id a pretty bad idea ... I would suggest you stay away from achol

[wantoletgo]

Tramadol/Ultram came out back in the 90's as an alternative to the opiods. I believe it is a fairly safe drug. I've had it before and it DOES give you somewhat a feeling of euphoria. Tapering would probably be your best bet. Tylenol PM is merely 500mg acetaminophin with a dose of benedryl, either 25 or 50mg. It is usually safe for most people to take. As far as your Blood pressure. I would say it is your priority to control that. Otherwise you are placing yourself at extremely high risk for a stroke or a heart attack. If you start to have symptoms such as headaches, visual changes, slurring of speech, weakness in your extremeties, chest pain, shortness of breath, sweating, or dizziness...Off to the ER you go! Got it?

[fibrocentric]

i never drink while "on" this med. i always make sure that at least 8 to 12 hours have gone by. when i talked to my pharmacist about this she said it would be fine.

[IBKleen]

Someone will be along to help you with the questions pertaining to Tramadol. What I can say is NEVER drink alcohol with your medication. Did you read the warning on the bottle? That is really not safe and it concerns me.

It is quiet so hang on while members come on.