an open forum for Aug.4/02?

[fishman59]

Another day--anymore questions? Just be nice!

[1fortheroad]

good morning...is someone not being nice?

[fishman59]

no groovy I just read thru the last few days posts and I must say that - no eveything is just fine everyone is being very helpful
                       live long and prosper

[theonlybenzoaddct]

Since this is an open forum I would like to see if everyone would put there own little 2cents in and let everyone else know(if not too personal)what helps them get throught there w/d be it long term or short. My self, I like listing to Trey Anastasio,Phish,and widespread panic. I also like The World of Outlaws sprint car racing, And watching Stanley Kubrick movies. these are just a few things that i feel theraputic twards my long term recovery. all fer now!

                            andy

[mrmichael67]

I listen to the grateful dead or floyd and smoke large amounts of the kind.

[fishman59]

now that the subject has been brought up--is pot addictive? I've been smoking on & off since I was a young pup and can go months or even a couple of years without smoking that little weed.

[mrmichael67]

I can take it or leave it also.  I would rather take it, though.  I first started smoking it in the fifth grade and I am 34 now.  I have never felt any physical withdrawal from marijuana.

[theonlybenzoaddct]

Yes,
     Marijuana is psychologically addictive. You will never ever smoke enough dank to kill yourself, hurt yourself(maybey your lungs:)or become a physically dependant like benzo's, narcs,or barbit's. If you smoke too much ya just tend to get a little lazy and no pun intended, a little dopey. In fact my favorite buzz was 10mg of xanax and 2-3 bowls of hawiian indica. Great varity, with a uppy type of feeling so I never laid around like a zombie. Hey by the way Mr.Mike had mentioned listing to pink floyd, and the Grateful dead. I am a huge Phish fan and dead fan, I do lots of tape a cd trading so if anybody has good phish or dead shown on cd-r let me know. I might have a concet on cd-r you might have been to and want to listen again. Keep those good hobbies and theraputic ideas flowing on this thread. It jus might give us a few positive ideas for the future. I dont car if its gardening or S&M. Just let us know what is good for you outside of pills.
          
                                    andyk

[Witchywoman]

What got me through my WDs were movies. Lots of em. I watched 3 or 4 a day, and then when I wasn't watching movies I was in the tub.
I couldn't really use music to help me, 'cause all the music I love listening to makes me want to dance, and at the time I was healing from back surgery and dancing was out of the question.
I used to be quite the Dead Head back in the old days, but nowadays my favorite music to listen to is mostly Middle Eastern music, and worldbeat.

I have to comment on the new adds on this forum. While I really appreciate the forum, I really don't like the new flash adds that follow the posts, sometimes even covering up what I am trying to read. There is no way to click off them, and I find them so annoying that I'd go out of my way to avoid supporting those businesses.  I'd much rather see banner adds, I'd even click on those and support those businesses if I could.

love and light,
WW

[hellbent]

I needed to listen to really inspirational music when detoxing and get real emotional with it. It had been a long time since I had listened to ****.

I was so out of it for so long, I had no idea what was going on in the world. For example, I had no ******* idea that the singers' of blind melon and alice in chains had died. What a drag. I am now listening to tons of alice and chains, and play the music at 11 on the dial.

[hippy]

hey everybody, hello first and i love pink floyd  i was around 16 when wish you were here came out , i think, im not really sure i smoked so much reefer,
any way that was then this is now and i stoped smoking  it when i was 24, it started to make me think i was being followed, or maybe that was the purple s'ss , or speed-meth -crank had to stop that to, to many visions.
clean these day's and the best distraction for the WDs was reading a really good books one after another and reading a great book in a steaming hot tub is even better. untill ya have to get out and walk around, i don't know witch is worse laying around or or moving around during with drawls.

well the reason i posted was i was haveing this pain in the
lower left side of my back. i had felt it last january when i was bending over at work,  it seemed to go away and now 8 months later it pops up agian , it feels like an intestine, i think it could be the colon , but i really dont know.
i will be going to the doctor soon for a blood test, and after i mention this pain , im sure i'll be getting some kide of test that i won't like taking.
thanks in advance for any input.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hellbent]

That for the 4-5 weeks that I lied on the futon kicking, I watched nothing but the history channel. This was pretty much 24 hours a day as I never did sleep.

I couldn't concentrate at all on anything else for some reason. I felt like I used to after doing blow all night: no activity in the world could excite me, no tv program or any type of sensation was compelling. For some reason, watching the history channel was bearable.

[earlygrayce]

what got me through withdrawals was tapering, ambien and the gym. also the support of my family. now i am 3 months sober and enjoying life more than ever. i was scared of withdrawal for so long, but in the end you have to just suck it up and take it like a man. at least that is how i felt.

[koalabear]

What were you taking and exactly how did you do it.  Did you have other meds to help you?

I'd really love to know your details.

Thanks,
Koala

[mrmichael67]

WW commented on the pop-ups that happen here.  There is a site called www.panicware.com and they have a program called pop-up stopper.  I use it and it works wonderfully!  There isn't anything more annoying than being inundated with pop-ups.

[mrmichael67]

Oh, by the way, the pop-up stopper is free.

[kell737]

Does anyone know what type of drug can help you with withdrawls from percocet and vicodin?

[GOD]

Hey Mrmichael,
I use the Pop up stopper Pro as well, but, unfortunately, this site (medhelp.org) is now using "Flash" ads to get by the pop-up stopper's protection. For everybody out there who wants to disable FLASH animation, the only way to do so is to disable "Flash animation" in your internet options (Advanced) under "Tools". This, of course, assumes that you are using the latest version of IE, using Win2000 OS or higher NT based shell, and are NOT an AOL user... Hehehe (AOL wipes out a lot of your browsers functionality in order to get it's own S**tty ads to you). Otherwise, you'll just have to wait until the Panicware Folks come up with a "Flash stopper"....

Good luck to all, and a pain-free night!
Jess

[fishman59]

Are you positive about the addictivness of pot? I think of myself as having a fairly addictive personality and I have smoked the good stuff for 26 some odd years (16-now) and have gone for some pretty good stretches without it and felt no ill effects,that or I was to "high" from the codeine to feel the withdrawal from pot???

[fishman59]

As far as the pop-ups go I guess you guys are getting all the ads--I have yet to see a pop-up on this site and I don't have any "stopper" programs,but I do have all the latest "flash" type programs. Is it only the U.S. that gets them??

[earlygrayce]

thanks for the interest.

i was taking around ten to twenty vicodin/percocet daily for a little more than a year. i tapered with vicodin. during that year and a half i usually took two doses daily of whatever i was taking and was at around 12 vicodin per day for a month or so before i started to taper. so i took  6 (which was a "normal" dose for me) - then twelve hrs later 5.5 - then 12 hrs. later 5 etc...... some people suggest to go much slower, but i didn't have much choice(a whole other story). at the end two doses(1 pill and a half a pill - twelve hrs. apart) i started to have a lot of problems sleeping(twitching and the like), but some people don't experience this. i don't drink much and to be honest during those couple nights i had a couple beers to get rid of the twitching and restlessness. that helped, but just a little. i already had an appointment scheduled with my former psychiatrist for the day after i ended up taking my last dose(pure coincidence and luck). i told him what i was doing and about my problems sleeping. he refered me to a counsler(who i now see once a week) who specializes in therapy with former addicts. he also gave me some ambien. he wasn't too concerned about its addictiveness, although i guess it does have that potential, and i have never gotten a high from its' use. i took that for almost two months just about every night(i would try every now and again to sleep without it and the restlessness-particularly in my legs (rls) was just unbearable. however, over the last two weeks, i have actually slept ok without it. i really only take it now if when i try and fall asleep the rls prevents me. and again, that is only a few days a week and is slowly decreasing. my counseler and doctor both told me that these were symptoms of "post acute withdrawal" and could last for quite a while. luckily for me, they seem to be fading. i have always weight-trained, but lost much of my focus during that year and a half. the gym has turned into a sanctuary for me again, and the benifits of any regular exercise is more than i can express here. i still have cravings, but that is why i continue to see the counseler. every day is a fight and every day i become a stronger fighter. good luck with your journey and thanks again for the interest.

[pillhell]

WELL HERE I AM AGAIN.IVE BEEN POSTING COMENTS AND QUESTIONS ON HERE FOR ABOUT 2 WEEKS.WHEN I STARTED POSTING,I WAS TRYING TO KICK METHADONE.KNOW I RECENTLY GOT SOME OXYS.BAD MOVE.YOU'D THINK ALL THE TIMES IVE GONE THROUGH THE HELL(WD)I WOULD WANT TO STOP.GOD WHATS WRONG WITH ME.I AM MARRIED TO A WONDERFUL MAN WHO I LOVE DEARLY.BUT WE ARE BOTH ADDICTS.ITS VERY EASY TO TALK EACH OTHER INTO GOING BACK TO THE HELL-USING.I KNOW BEATING MYSELF UP ISNT GOING TO HELP MY SITUATION.BUT I CANT BELIEVE IM EVEN IN THIS SITUATION.IVE BEEN USING(OXYS,LORCET)FOR 3 YEARS.STOPPED FOR A MONTH BUT TAKING METH.THAT WAS BEFORE I GOT BACK ON OXYS-THIS WEEK.THE REASON I CANT BELIEVE IM IN THIS SITUATION IS THIS:MY HUSBAND WAS A CRACK ADDICT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.I HELPED HIM KICK BEFORE WE WERE MARRIED.IVE ALWAYS BEEN THE SO CALLED DRUG COUNSALOR FOR EVERYONE.KNOW LOOK AT ME.I KNOW I PROBABLY SOUND LIKE IM FEELING SORRY FOR MYSELF.I AM.THANKS FOR LISTENING

[Fitzgibbons]

Repling to your thread @ C3 "nothing"...

[mrmichael67]

I don't get any pop-ups at all.