any one new to the fourm,and lurking / open fourm

[hippy]

i was wondering if there was anyone new to the fourm
who might be lurking and reading, i wanted to welcome
anyone who is just reading the post, and if you had any
questions we could answer regarding getting off opiates
such as vikes, percs, hydro, oxy, lorcet. it's all the
same  in the end. they all steal your life from ya,
they promise everything then  damm you with and emptiness,
ans unhappiness.


peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tonnyganghui]

led bulb light
led tube light

[merry73]

hi everyone,

i'm sure this question has been asked many times, i apologize for i just found this forum minutes ago.

my ex-boyfriend is about to start withdrawal from methadone tomorrow morning.

is there any way to ease this?  anything homeopathic?

i've seen him withdraw from heroin before and it was miserable, and from what i understand this is going to be worse.

thanks for any advice given.

merry

[momonhydros]

hi everyone! been reading here for a couple of weeks. i to am addicted to codiene and hydros.i am 38 years old with 3 kids two of which are twin girls 3 yrs old, and a 18 year old son. iv been using pain meds for a herniated disk with sciatica pain for about 2 years on and off. for the past 6 months ive been taking codeine about 4 or 5 a day then my pain doc gave me ultram to use about a month ago so i stopped taking the codeine and man did i go though some horrible withdrawl. severe depression, and irritable, and the freakin anxiety.anyways i didnt realize that the ultrams not a narcotic and what i was experiencing was withdrawl dah! till i started to read this forum. the ultrams not covered under my insurance so now the doc has me on hydros again. i know im screwed here im definently addicted i take about 5 to 6 hydros a day and when i run out of my script early i get them off the street. i could not handle the withdrawl at all especially trying to take care of the girls i though i was losing my mind. i dont have much of a support system nobody understands this addiction in my family they just know im miserable when i dont have my meds. i need to stop i know this but i dont know if i can handle the mental withdrawl i wanted to kill myself. thanks for listening to me hope someone reads this because its on the bottom i just needed to tell someone my story thanks you guys nancy

[pillhell]

Welcome to the forum,
Is there anyone you can tell?a parent,a relative?I hate to see anyone battling with this hell(including me)But your so young?How long have you been using?Have you ever tried to stop?There is alot of things you can do to get help?A medical professional is the best.But I'm sure you dont want to let people know.Which is totally understandable.The heroin is scary.If you can get away from that on your own you should.Methadone could help if your addicted?Which would help with the pills too.BUT METH. IS VERY HARD TO KICK-VERY ADDICTIVE.That is what im trying to kick-a total nightmare.But If you go to a clinic and get put on a program for short term,maybe that would help.You have to really want to stop.There are other meds to help with withdrawel.I'd really like to help you.email me if you want-***@****
keep posting here on this forum.there is alot of great people here who can help.GOOD LUCK!

[pillhell]

CONGRAT.on your progress.I have been taking methadone wafers for a little over a year.Trying to come off them-total nightmare.Please dont say ONLY12 days.12 days is so totally awesome!!!!BE PROUD OF EVERY DAY YOU STAY AWAY FROM THAT ****!!!!As far as that name Methman.I think its cool.Its kind of a reminder.Maybe it helps you stay on track.I personally think that NONAforme comments were uncalled for.We all vent at times.But my god chill out!Methadone clinics are not for everyone.They do help alot of people.I dont think its right for someone to fight on here.If your reading this NONAforme I think you owe methman a heartfelt apolagy.If you don't agree with what everyone says or feels-thats fine,nobody does all the time.Just live and let live.Thats all anybody wants on this forum.Picking on his name?How old are you?Look you dont have to agree with methman but you dont need to be so sensitive either.Keep up the good work methman.Some people might think I'm out of line,but we come here for support,not negativity.

[J. E. W.]

I dont know about the diabetes but when you go into the E.R.let them know you want off of the vics. but cant do it on your own. They can help. Can you get help with insurance through your state? Here in WA.they have alot of differant low cost or free {when you have know money to pay. Most hospitals have sliding scale or free too. You just have to ask.They dont tell you inless you know to ask..Ill be praying for you and your son..Take care my friend...         J.E.W.

[u2shibby]

hi i am new to the forum and I have a huge problem.. I have diabetes and severe back pain. getting vics does not only help my back but helps me function. I have tried twice to get off them. both times with in 8 hours of the withdrawls i fall into a diabetic coma and i wake up in Intensive care unit where they drug me up again. I only realized now that I have a problem pain or death. I can't go cold turkey cause I end up in a coma from the vomiting not eating and dirreah. It is horriable I ran out yesterday. I have no doctor. No insurance. I just talked to an er doctor today and he wants me to check in to er. So I am headed off to there in an hour. I am scared. I am a 22 year old male with a kid who does not live with me at the time. I want help and the diabetes is not allowing me to handle it well. Tell me what u think... laters Tim
p.s does anyone now anyone addicted with a medical conditon like daibetes.. please talk to me about it.

[dienikad]

Hi,

I'm 18 I just signed up. I went into the hospital in 9th grade. Its my senior year in High School. I want to do well in school. It has been getting tougher.

Been on and off for about 4 years. Including Heroin (snorting) Morphine sulfate, OC, Percs, Hydros, Codeine, Fentinol etc...

What do I do, as i am a sparatic user. As I can buy it I will.
The only limit is availability. Sad. Im scared.

[BlackHeartedWolf]

Hello

My name is Dana and I am a 28 yr old female living in San Francisco. I used heroin and cocaine (IV) from 1995 to 1998, and have been on Methadone Maint since June 1998 (no relapses back to heroin!) I am down to 9 mg, dropping to 8 next Weds. I was at 85 mg when I started tapering off, a few yrs ago. Now that I am getting closer to being totally off Methadone, I am getting nervous about withdrawal, so I am looking for support to help ease my mind. So far I have not hit "the wall" since I dropped to 15 mg in Aug 2001. Anyway, I hope to get to know some people in here!

Dana

[hyjack]

I know of some information that may be helpful to you, if you email me I can relay that to you.

***@****

[J. E. W.]

I dont know anything about the drugs you are on. But I wanted to offer you my congrates on how far you have come!!!!!!!!!! Ill be praying for you. If you post further up on the forum you get alot more responses. Alot of people dont read all the way down here..      God Bless...       J.E.W.

[sharonver]

Welcome,

Sorry no one got back to you yet but its difficult when you post on the bottom, not everyone goes down that far!  Any opiate drug is addicting.  Everyone is different, it will depend on how much you take and how long you take it for.  As long as you take it as prescribed and not for a lengthy period of time you shouldn't have too much withdrawl from it.  It will probably be like having a bad flu for a few days.  Be honest with your doctor let him know of your concerns.

Sharon

[nklarson]

Hey guys...stumbled across this site while trying to get info on a new pain medication that has been prescribed for me. I am taking 60 mg oxcotin q 12 hours. I see alot of things here that scare me so any questions you can answer will be helpful...first, does everyone become addicted??? If so ..is there anything I can do to prevent this short of suffering?  I expect to be on this for about 3 mos...will I need treatment to come off this when it's time? My  husband is a police officer and has expressed his desire that I not use this stuff as he has seen the horrors this drug can cause first hand....all I know is my quality of life has improved tremendously since taking this. ( no more being in the hospital on iv morphine) Incidently, I have poly cystic ovaries with several masses on my left ovary which will require removal but we are trying to harvest some eggs so that we may be able to have children after my ovaries are gone. My Dr. wants to put off surgery due to me having a recent surgery in which my colon was knicked due to adhesions so finding pain control has been the priority right now, but after reading this forum I am very worried. Any info would be appreciated....thanks NKL

[hippy]

***@****

[Ronsin]

I live in the northeast. I don't go to NA, It's not for me. I have a bad case of social anxiety disorder. I been on & off meds for 30 years (mostly On). When I am on them my anxiety goes away & am fine. I've done everything. Benzos, hydos, oxys,. The last time I stopped was from percs & tussinex (I did them 10 years straight). When I stopped 15 years ago I swore that I would never take anything stronger than a darvon. Boy was that was a mistake. Darvons are chemically similar to methadone & almost as addicting. I did them for almost 15 years. At the end I started doing lorcet & percs again. In the past 2 months I stopped everything except Xanax. ( I used the recipe). I still have bad cravings almost everyday. My fist shrink helped me stop the first time, but he retired. My new shrink is an a-hole. He is one of those doctors who think they are god. He new nothing about addition medicine, I had to supply him with all the info. All he wants me to do is get on a seritonim reuptake drug like Paxil, & he thinks everything will be allright. I keep telling him that I've tried these meds & if they were to work for me it would take at least a year & can't hold out that long. I would go back to using. He doesn't give ****. He tried to switch me from xanax to klonipin. But I have a bad liver & the klonipin made me sick. (I told him about my liver) I told him he tried to kill me. & we will have to work together from now on. He calmed down (probably thought I was going to sue him).
    My point is that I was in business with my father for 30 years, the business went under. I am out of a job, I have a liver problem & a severe case of anxiety disorder. All I have is my wife who is a school teacher in Phila. I read your post that  your aunt can get people on disability. With my liver & anxiety problems, I thought you may be able to help me. That's why I wanted to talk to you. My e-mail address is ***@**** . Thanks again

[hippy]

flames that will work, the only thing you can do  , is go
down in incriments of 5mg. per week.

ronsin, whats up, where are you from in phila.
do you go to na. if you do you probly know me.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ronsin]

Sorrry I hit the post button twice.

[Ronsin]

I am fairly new, I have reading for about 2 months but not posting much. I live in Philadelphia & it's very important that I get in touch with you. When you get a chance Please e-mail me at ***@**** . thanks.

[Ronsin]

I am fairly new, I have reading for about 2 months but not posting much. I live in Philadelphia & it's very important that I get in touch with you. When you get a chance Please e-mail me at ***@**** . thanks.

[FLAMES]

THANKS FOR ASKING & OFFERING HELP.
I FOUND THE SITE A FEW WEEKS AGO & WROTE ALITTLE BIT ABOUT WHATS GOING ON WITH ME.IHAD GOTTEN IN THE HABBIT OF TAKING A COUPLE OF MY WIFES METHADOSE FOR MY BACK EVERY DAY OR SO.THIS HAS PROBALY BEEN GOING ON FOR 8 MONTHS OR SO. SHE RAN LOW & I DIDN'T TAKE ANY FOR A FEW DAYS & FELT WORST THAN ****.I AM A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC SO I PUT THINGS TOGETHER PRETTY QUIK & STARTED READING UP ON THIS STUFF & FOUND THIS SITE.THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE!!!!
MY QUESTION IS OR MY PLAIN IS.... IAM NOW TAKING 20MG A DAY STARTING MONDAY TO 15MG A DAY,THEN THE NEXT MONDAY 10MG A DAY,
IS A 5MG A WEEK TO BIG OF A DROP OR WILL IT WORK??? I CAN'T GO AHEAD & COLD TURKEY ,I HAVE TO WORK & TAKE CARE OF MY WIFE IJUST WANT RID OF THIS ****. I'VE DONE REAL WELL WITH THE BOOZE 3YR'S
SOBER , JUST PLEASE GIVE ME SOME POINTERS ON THIS STUFF
        THANKS EVERYONE FOR WRITTING IN,GOD BLESS

[movingon]

hello hippee

I'll take you up on your offer. Thanks. I found this site a few days ago.  I have been taking about 80 mg of Oxycontin and 80 mg of Hydrocodone for about 2 years as a result of a car accident where I broke my back.  I don't know how relevnat it is but I have also been what most consider a heavy drinker for quite a while (I'm 43).  I've decided  to try and kick the habit and I'm just looking for some advice on how to get started.   I'm still in a fair amount of pain but I'm tired to death of watching the clock and the next pill whether I have the pain or not.  I tried to just stop and that lasted less than a day.  I've read this forum for a few days and it give me encouragement to try but also scares me. I wonder if it is harder to kick taking two drugs rather than one.  I think my doc would up the dose of Oxy if I dropped the Hydro.  There seem to be a lot of drugs out there to consider - ambien, clonidine, xanax, darvol and methodone although nobady has anything good to say about meth.  I don't knwo if I should attempt outpatient or inpatient or neither.  I have a lot of job and family (4 kids) responsilbilities so I can't be non- functional for any great length of time.  I know I have to see an addiction doc but I'd like to be a little better informed so I don't get steered down a path I shouldn't go. It would help if I knew the besat and worst I could expect.  I greatly appreciate any guidance or advice you (or anyone) may wish to share.


movingon (eventually i hope)

[Diesel girl]

I am the opposite, knowing what to expect is worse for me.  I fear alot of it I will bring on myself just from my head messing with me. How long does it take from your last dose til you really start feeling the pain? Also, alot of people I have talked to from my clinic say it m ight not be that bad because I haven't been on it to long others say it will because I am at a pretty strong dose.
You also said  you were curious about the 30 day detox, my clinic gives out Administrative Detoxes. That is either a 14 or 30 day detox depending basicly on how mad you have made them. I missed 2 of my dr.s' appointments and 2 weekends with a verifiable and reasonable excuse and they say that I have the attitude that I don't want treatment, I mean I missed other days too after talking to the Dr. of problems I was having and I wanted my dose lowered and she says that it is just the side effects, if I have to deal with the side effects I have, I don't want to be on it.  Granted it did help clean me up and get my life somewhat back in order but, I can't stand the staff and the way I feel also I want to add to the other persons post, that you pretty much have to prove your an addict there too, well at least through a blood test and a detailed check up  of your arms and stuff, for tracks, we also get couseling too, but it is horrible, and I don't feel that many of them are really there to help us.  They are completely backwards if you ask me.  They also tell you that they would like for you to be drug free but don't act like they really care in the slightest bit, and pretty much the majority of people I talk to at my clinic will say the same thing.   I remember once my counselor was furious with me for not dosing right and they held my dose and told me to just go home and be sick so I could reinforce the bad feeling. Granted, they only held it that day but it is just the point. It would be nice if all clinics were polite and did what they are supposed to, but that's not the case where I am at. I wish it was.

[MethMan]

Dude.. unlike you, I have not been to the methadone clinic for over 2 months.  Tomorrow, I will add another day to that.
And you are calling ME a zombie?

Since you asked (twice), I will give you the courtesy of my response to your question.

Why am I against Methadone Clinics?
I traded a comparativly small hydro habit for a monster.  Never shot dope.  Personally, if it keeps you from shooting dope that would be cool.  What is UNCOOL is that once the "Dr." allows you into the clinic, asking for more will get you more.  Your comment that your methadone clinic does not do that is impressive.  Afterall, I've only been in 8 other methadone clinics around the US and found them ALL to do the same thing.  You must be one of the lucky ones that found the good ONE out there.  Where is it? Easter Island?
I'm with you bud... instead of all the chances you take to shoot, if you're desire is not to be off and you know you will use again, then maybe it's a good thing.  But like all things in life, each of us can only speak on our own experiences.  Mine obviously is different from yours.  The diversity is cool.  
I respect your opinion, just don't agree with it.  No big deal.  
You also mentioned something about why I use the screen name I do.  Actually, I used it because I didn't think about making up something cool, didn't want to spend the time to think about a good one and just typed something out real quick.
Maybe if I were actively in a Methadone clinic I would have thought about it more and came up with one as good as you did.

Now... a question for you. Would you trade a 12-16 hydro habit for a 40mg methadone habit?

Obviously we're a diverse group.  And with that, different things work for different folks.  I'm just airing out my opinion like everyone else is, in the hope that in some very small way, I can help others like they've helped me.  Actually brother, you've helped me too.  Now I KNOW I'm going in the right direction.

Props,
Mike

[Patrice]

You still didnt aanswer my question, why do you talk **** about the clinic that saved you life, and kept you from shooting dope?????? And I will ask again, why are you still Methman.....I think you need to stay at the NA board, you sound like one of their "zombies" already