anyone used meth short-term (week or so) to detox from hydro

[loriegurl]

just curious about others' experience with this. I used it for about 4 days, a year agao,  but used to much-per dr orders. He started me on 60mg/day and I alsmost died the 2nd day into it. I now know that maybe 15-30 mg max is the most I should take., I hae 23 methadones to use. Just kind of looking to "soften the blow" I guess. I know alot of folks dont like the meth route, but I ONLY want to use for a week to get thru the worst. NO CHANCE of getting hooked on this....I HATED METHadone. cant see myself wanting anymore than the 23 I have. Please tell me of any experiences that any of you guys may have had detoxing with a small amount of meth. I have got to jump off SOON  and am scared. I know that once I take that 1st meth that I will be ofiicially starting to get clean from a 2 yr habit of 20+/day of lorcet 10's. I am certain that I will not use more of the meth than what I have on had. and really dont expect to use the entire "stash of 23, 10 mgs" that I have. Also, How should I use it, what dose schedule should I start with and use or the 5-7 days max. Thanks

[david757]

i tried to do the same last spring to get off vicodin/percocet, but took way too much (20 mg/day)- pill users need VERY LITTLE methadone. painkillers are not heroin- i dont care who you are or what horse pills ur taking- the suggested 40 milligrams/day will make you higher than u ever were on pills. and unless you want a new addiction, thats bad. 10-15 mg will keep you stable for 24 hours. that amount must go down gradually every day that you are on it, until youre off completely (no more than 2 weeks no matter what!) that is how i would do it,  and i was downing about ninety 10mg vicodins- plus atleast 45 percocets per week for 2 years.    
     no matter what you do, my biggest peice of advice is DO NOT ever get on a methadone maintenance program.  methadone clinics make massive prophets, and will keep you on it for as long as possible in order to keep making money from you. the biggest way they get you to stay is through rediculously potent dose levels- clinics start 10-year heroin addicts and painkiller addicts at the same dose. this introduces the majority of new patients to a greater high than before- instead of being stabilized. their dose is increased constantly for weeks, months, building onto theyre already increased dependancy.  that it is extremely deceiving- generally, patients are on it for atleast 6 months, most for several years, even LIFE! not one person on earth needs to be on a narcotic for the rest of their lives to control their "disease." thats an easy answer that takes away the fault in peoples actions. and people grasp onto it - thus furthering the success of methadone clinics. and people will pay dearly- a dose of methadone costs one dollar. where i go, the patient pays $14 per day. thats a 1,400% profit per dose.  
     ive been on it for 6 months, and have been trying to find a way out since the first week. tapering off is an option, but i am not about to spend the next decade decreasing by 5 milligrams every 2 weeks- thats RETARDED. why would one taper off so gradually?? the ONLY reason is so that clinics can continue making money off of you for as long as possible. tapering honestly does not  have to be THAT gradual. thats like driving a car 10mph and taking 5 miles to stop.

[loriegurl]

thanks for your answer and advice. I hated methadone when I was on it and cant imagine anyone getting hooked on it, not to down play anyones DOC, but it just sucked. I did not get high off of it at all-just sick. sweaty, shaking, nauseated, SICK!! I have a friend that goes to the clinic and is constantly trying to score more of the streets. She loves it!!
I just want to be clean from the hydro and not be hooked on anything. I dont have the willpower to taper, if I have pills, I take them ALL. I empathize with you and the methadone situation. I dont know what my friend is gonna do. I have talked to her about it several times and she thinks that she will be on it forever. she says she has no plans to quit anytime soon...she drives an hr round trip to go "dose" everyday. and then takes any extras that she can find off the street.
again, thanks for your advice and if anyone has any info regarding SHORT TERM methadone use to come off hydro, please reply here.
good night:)

[Savas]

First. you have to take your methadone history into account. The only time you can use a short (one week) methadone detox to withdraw with, is if you have practically NO methadone history. If you've taken it for more than six months in the past year or two, it WON'T work. (This is a rough guess).

What's your methadone history? How many times/how long have you taken it?

Keep in mind methadone is just another opiate, albeit a much more addictive one. So generally, you can't use it to get off another opiate. You face the same withdrawals in the long run. The only thing it's good for is giving you the time to get your life back together.

[loriegurl]

hi and thanks for your help. my meth history is 4 days at the most, and once I took one for "pleasure about 6 months prior to the consecutive 4 day use. so my meth use is very minimal. SO, according to your reply, if I use the meth for 5-7 days at 15-20 mgs per day, will I still experiene wd's from the hydro habit. hydro habit is 20+/day for a lil over 2 years. I  Just really wanted to make the wd's a little easier with a little methadone. Just wandering if that will help any or even make a difference. I dont know if it works or not, because the last time I used meth for the 4 day period, I had taken to much and got sick sick sick. I am a little scared of methadone. But do not plan to use much at all-as in 10 mg the first day, no more than 15. I am gonna start with the 10mg and go from there. If I feel that I need a little more comfort, than I may take 5 mg more. I only have 23 pills, 10 mg methadone and NO WAY to get anymore. So I know that excessive amounts is out of the question.  I just know that I have to be very cautious with this stuff. thanks for your help/concern