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back...and two weeks!
So we finally have our internet hooked up in our new house, and I just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing. I'm doing well...2 weeks now, and feeling a lot more normal. Every now and then I have some sleep issues - trouble falling asleep, or trouble falling back asleep, and every once in awhile I get tingly/itchy hands or feet...but most of it is passed. Now I'm just fighting the rebound depression as my body learns to make it's own endorphins, and it's a b*tch. Some days I'm in so much pain that I just want to call my pain management doctor and tell him that he was right, that I shouldn't have quit the meds, and would he please take me back....Doing all this work on the house has had me crawling into bed shaking with pain, but I'm trying so hard. Tryin to use the ibuprofen...I got a big above-ground pool for mother's day so I've been floating in that the past 2 days trying to take some strain off of my back and neck, but it only does so much. I'm going to give this some more time...I've come so far, it would be stupid to turn back now, but I'm not hopeful about being able to stay out of pain management permanently.
However, I realize that could just be the rebound depression talking, so I'm forcing myself to get through every single day without calling the doctor before I give in to being a wuss so that by the time I feel like I want to give up it's already after 5 and I can't call...just taking it a day at a time.
but honestly, for all that, I'm doing really well...and hopeful that I'll be doing better soon.
how is everyone doing? I lost touch over the last week and I've been thinking of you guys and wondering how everyone is!
However, I realize that could just be the rebound depression talking, so I'm forcing myself to get through every single day without calling the doctor before I give in to being a wuss so that by the time I feel like I want to give up it's already after 5 and I can't call...just taking it a day at a time.
but honestly, for all that, I'm doing really well...and hopeful that I'll be doing better soon.
how is everyone doing? I lost touch over the last week and I've been thinking of you guys and wondering how everyone is!
There aren't any schools that do it where you live? I know my sister got hers done through a school for free!! AND she got some money out of it!! Of course the surgeon is right there in case something happens...just an idea because I know they're so expensive!!!
thanks Sara, LOL. I saw the oral surgeon today, but the only problem is now getting the $$ for the surgery...$2100 :-(. They can do the surgery as early as wednesday morning but I need to figure out how we're going to pay for it.
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No you dont have to go back in your count. You are taking these for a medical condition and not abusing them. If you were taking them for sh!ts and giggles that would be another story!!
Now be a good girl, get to the Oral Surgeon and get your teeth taken care of. Vicki and i will be on you till you do!! sara
Now be a good girl, get to the Oral Surgeon and get your teeth taken care of. Vicki and i will be on you till you do!! sara
Update!
Well my period arrived, so no baby yet - but my husband and I decided to start trying in the next few months :-).
3 weeks now but I don't know if I"m supposed to keep counting because they gave me some Norco for my tooth on friday. I've only taken 4 since then, when the script says 1-2 every 4-6 hours, and I haven't really had any desire to take them...not that I ever really did before. I've only taken them when the pain is super bad. And I can't believe how SLEEPY and ZONED they make me....if I was like this when I was taking them before, how could I tolerate it?!
I had a candid talk with the doctor on friday telling her about stopping the meds and I was worried about becoming dependent again, and she was very honest. she said if the ibuprofen isn't working, then I may realistically have to take pain meds off and on until I'm recovered from the surgery...but she said that as long as I'm not taking them around the clock every day, it shouldn't set my body healing back any, just put it on "pause" if you will. she said if I never had trouble abusing them or any addictive behaviors that I shouldn't worry and just to manage the pain how I need to....and so far like I said,I haven't had any trouble and in fact I can't believe how much I'm disliking the feeling of being on the meds again. I never really LIKED the way they made me feel before, I'm a control freak, so feeling "loopy" always upset me and every time I took a dose that made me loopy I would half the next dose out of paranoia until the pain got worse then go back to taking the full dose. if that makes sense (and yes my doctor knew I would do this..he thought it was funny). but now after all of this I realize just how much I DON'T like the feeling. I haven't gotten loopy this time around at all but I definitely feel sedated and drowsy...and I hate it.
at any rate I wanted to update...still determined not to go back to around-the-clock pain medicine and I'm still steering clear of pain management, but I'm sad that this had to happen right as I was celebrating a really good solid 3 weeks. I don't know if I have to start counting again, but it's still a bummer. hopefully I'll be getting the surgery this week and put this behind me and get back to healing...I haven't taken any of the pain meds today just ibuprofen but I also haven't eaten because my jaw hurts so bad, so I'm debating taking one or not and it pisses me off....bleah, sorry, thinking out loud. gonna go use a heat pack and see if I can loosen my jaw up a bit from the swelling and eat that way.
oh Vicki the reason I never got it taken care of is that I'm a big baby about the dentist. I haven't been since 2007 lol. I mean I saw the oral surgeon and I was first pregnant with my daughter but I never went back after that. I just want to get this done now so when I'm pregnant later this year I'm not dealing with it again. and I am seeing an oral surgeon at 2 today, you were right :-). insurance won't cover it but that's OK my parents are helping me. unfortunately all of my wisdom teeth are impacted so it's going to be pretty big surgery as oral surgery goes.
Well my period arrived, so no baby yet - but my husband and I decided to start trying in the next few months :-).
3 weeks now but I don't know if I"m supposed to keep counting because they gave me some Norco for my tooth on friday. I've only taken 4 since then, when the script says 1-2 every 4-6 hours, and I haven't really had any desire to take them...not that I ever really did before. I've only taken them when the pain is super bad. And I can't believe how SLEEPY and ZONED they make me....if I was like this when I was taking them before, how could I tolerate it?!
I had a candid talk with the doctor on friday telling her about stopping the meds and I was worried about becoming dependent again, and she was very honest. she said if the ibuprofen isn't working, then I may realistically have to take pain meds off and on until I'm recovered from the surgery...but she said that as long as I'm not taking them around the clock every day, it shouldn't set my body healing back any, just put it on "pause" if you will. she said if I never had trouble abusing them or any addictive behaviors that I shouldn't worry and just to manage the pain how I need to....and so far like I said,I haven't had any trouble and in fact I can't believe how much I'm disliking the feeling of being on the meds again. I never really LIKED the way they made me feel before, I'm a control freak, so feeling "loopy" always upset me and every time I took a dose that made me loopy I would half the next dose out of paranoia until the pain got worse then go back to taking the full dose. if that makes sense (and yes my doctor knew I would do this..he thought it was funny). but now after all of this I realize just how much I DON'T like the feeling. I haven't gotten loopy this time around at all but I definitely feel sedated and drowsy...and I hate it.
at any rate I wanted to update...still determined not to go back to around-the-clock pain medicine and I'm still steering clear of pain management, but I'm sad that this had to happen right as I was celebrating a really good solid 3 weeks. I don't know if I have to start counting again, but it's still a bummer. hopefully I'll be getting the surgery this week and put this behind me and get back to healing...I haven't taken any of the pain meds today just ibuprofen but I also haven't eaten because my jaw hurts so bad, so I'm debating taking one or not and it pisses me off....bleah, sorry, thinking out loud. gonna go use a heat pack and see if I can loosen my jaw up a bit from the swelling and eat that way.
oh Vicki the reason I never got it taken care of is that I'm a big baby about the dentist. I haven't been since 2007 lol. I mean I saw the oral surgeon and I was first pregnant with my daughter but I never went back after that. I just want to get this done now so when I'm pregnant later this year I'm not dealing with it again. and I am seeing an oral surgeon at 2 today, you were right :-). insurance won't cover it but that's OK my parents are helping me. unfortunately all of my wisdom teeth are impacted so it's going to be pretty big surgery as oral surgery goes.
Well...some new wrinkles....
Re: the wisdom tooth. Motrin, I thought, was unwise in late pregnancy because of the inhibition of prostaglandins...But, no problem...take Excedrin with a benadryl 25mg and that should help. I don't get why you've treated the infection in the past and didn't have it pulled...after the pregnancies. Well,anyway...I'm sure you know that teeth go crazy during prgnancy...It concerns me a little that you put yourself on the PCN on your own...
Anyway....how about calling an oral surgeon? Usually THEY do wisdom teeth,right? And insurance may cover that...I've been going through a lot of dental treatment since last September so I know it's uncomfortable...I've also never had an issue with opiate anything
but just don't like to take anything...and I was really fine...and I'm a BIG baby!!!
So,try the Excedrin or really extra strength Tylenol in case of pregnancy and get to finding a doctor soon. I don't want to have to worry about you!!!
Re: the wisdom tooth. Motrin, I thought, was unwise in late pregnancy because of the inhibition of prostaglandins...But, no problem...take Excedrin with a benadryl 25mg and that should help. I don't get why you've treated the infection in the past and didn't have it pulled...after the pregnancies. Well,anyway...I'm sure you know that teeth go crazy during prgnancy...It concerns me a little that you put yourself on the PCN on your own...
Anyway....how about calling an oral surgeon? Usually THEY do wisdom teeth,right? And insurance may cover that...I've been going through a lot of dental treatment since last September so I know it's uncomfortable...I've also never had an issue with opiate anything
but just don't like to take anything...and I was really fine...and I'm a BIG baby!!!
So,try the Excedrin or really extra strength Tylenol in case of pregnancy and get to finding a doctor soon. I don't want to have to worry about you!!!
I hear what you're saying - but just tell yourself that sometimes "life (literally?) is what happens while you're busy making other plans" (we can thank John Lennon for that one) - just hang in and stay strong. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day - but definitely think about the Ambesol - it works SO great!!
Thank you for all the help I appreciate it! I just don't know what to do, the ibuprofen was helping so much...it's sick that vicodin is considered safer in the first trimester than motrin, isn't that sick? Anyway - not going to determine a course of action until I can figure out what to do as far as the dentist goes...for now, just hope..pray...ice pack...and hope that the penicillin starts working soon and easing the inflammation.
I know I need to test....gonna run to the dollar store tomorrow to pick up a cheapie. Now..pregnancy I definitely have a lot of experience with - I'm the Co-CL over in the Pregnancy 18-34 forum - and this is, unfortunately my 4th possible go-round with early pregnancy and wisdom tooth pain..I was supposed to get my teeth out with all 3 of my pregnancies but you can't get them removed until the 2nd trimester and every time the pain was better by the time the surgery rolled around and I didn't want to risk it.
I really want to be pregnant again - but not right now. Our lives are so complicated and I want to be SKINNY again by the time I get pregnant for the last time (the next one will be our 3rd and last child). We will be pleased if we are expecting now...but I really wanted my last pregnancy to be planned so I could enjoy every moment.
Sigh...oh well...I guess I'll test tomorrow, and try to find a dentist as well. Thanks for all the advice :-)
I know I need to test....gonna run to the dollar store tomorrow to pick up a cheapie. Now..pregnancy I definitely have a lot of experience with - I'm the Co-CL over in the Pregnancy 18-34 forum - and this is, unfortunately my 4th possible go-round with early pregnancy and wisdom tooth pain..I was supposed to get my teeth out with all 3 of my pregnancies but you can't get them removed until the 2nd trimester and every time the pain was better by the time the surgery rolled around and I didn't want to risk it.
I really want to be pregnant again - but not right now. Our lives are so complicated and I want to be SKINNY again by the time I get pregnant for the last time (the next one will be our 3rd and last child). We will be pleased if we are expecting now...but I really wanted my last pregnancy to be planned so I could enjoy every moment.
Sigh...oh well...I guess I'll test tomorrow, and try to find a dentist as well. Thanks for all the advice :-)
Okay, sorry about the motrin suggestions after realizing the troubles with ibuprofen and the possible pregnancy - maybe tylenol? :)
Oh boy - when it rains it pours huh?
Okay as far as the tooth is concerned, in the interim have you tried Ambesol? It worked great for me for tooth pain - at least maybe give it a shot until you get to the dentist? And my husband had some dental work done about a year ago and it was pretty extensive - and since he didn't want the narcotics, they gave him the motrin 800 and it worked really well for him so that too might be worth considering. If you do have to have the wisdom tooth removed (which I think is the best way to deal with it?), the pain afterward really isn't that bad (I had mine removed long time ago) and the extra strength motrin would be great for that too! After I had mine removed, it felt a little uncomfortable that night but the motrin worked great and the next day there was no pain at all.
And I have to say the only way you'll stop worrying about whether you're pregnant or not is to get the test and find out!! I know that probably sounds pretty obvious (sorry) but seriously knowing would be better than wondering right? :)
Okay as far as the tooth is concerned, in the interim have you tried Ambesol? It worked great for me for tooth pain - at least maybe give it a shot until you get to the dentist? And my husband had some dental work done about a year ago and it was pretty extensive - and since he didn't want the narcotics, they gave him the motrin 800 and it worked really well for him so that too might be worth considering. If you do have to have the wisdom tooth removed (which I think is the best way to deal with it?), the pain afterward really isn't that bad (I had mine removed long time ago) and the extra strength motrin would be great for that too! After I had mine removed, it felt a little uncomfortable that night but the motrin worked great and the next day there was no pain at all.
And I have to say the only way you'll stop worrying about whether you're pregnant or not is to get the test and find out!! I know that probably sounds pretty obvious (sorry) but seriously knowing would be better than wondering right? :)
Thanks guys. Once again you all know exactly what to say to allay my fears, and I've never been steered wrong :-).
I'll try to give it some more time, but I have an acute issue at the mo'...my wisdom tooth is flaring up. big time. in the past I've taken antibiotics and vicodin, which I would be OK taking for a few days when the pain gets bad (not worried about taking more than prescribed or getting into bad habits since that was never my issue, and I can put away a mostly full bottle without batting an eyelash - but I did flush the last of my last bottle just so I wouldn't give in when my back/neck/head hurt too bad). but our local walk-in stopped prescribing narcotics for tooth/jaw pain and I can't see a dentist right away...it stinks. I'm using ice packs and ibuprofen but it's not doing much more than making my cheek cold and giving me a stomachache. on top of all that...I think I may be pregnant, not sure - won't know for a few more days - but I know that ibuprofen in the early stages is bad so I stopped taking that this afternoon. I do have penicillin that I've had around the house since my kidney stones in september (bad, I know, but I didn't use it then because they switched me to Cipro so I kept it "just in case"...but its safe during pregnancy) so I'm taking that until I can get into a dentist...but this whole situation stinks.
I managed to avoid going in for my kidneys when they flared up last week and I was pleased with that, but this is getting to be bad. I can't open my jaw wide enough to eat and talking is hard - trying to yell at my 2-year-old is agony.
it didn't get bad until this morning..it hurt yesterday but this morning it was like OW...and now that I think I might be pregnant I'm freaking. I mean I thought earlier this month that we might've oopsied with my birth control but I didn't think about it until I realized that my period is getting closer and I'm starting to get all sorts of weirdo symptoms that only occur for me with pregnancy. not to mention...the last 3 times that my wisdom teeth caused problems like that was right around the time I found out I was pregnant with my other 2 and my miscarriage...so...that's kinda weird for me.
bleah anyway sorry for the ramble..I just don't knw what to do. I will see if my parents will give us some $$ to go to my dentist this week and be seen but with the new house and all the extra expenses this is the WORST time...not to mention it's going to set back my body's recovery if I do end up on pain meds again for a few days, won't it? It will reset all my endorphin producing and I'll have to restart that part of it...bleah. Really want to try to avoid that if possible, I'm already having so much trouble dealing with my body re-learning to produce endorphins that I don't want to drag out the process any longer than I have to...any suggestions on what to do?
I'll try to give it some more time, but I have an acute issue at the mo'...my wisdom tooth is flaring up. big time. in the past I've taken antibiotics and vicodin, which I would be OK taking for a few days when the pain gets bad (not worried about taking more than prescribed or getting into bad habits since that was never my issue, and I can put away a mostly full bottle without batting an eyelash - but I did flush the last of my last bottle just so I wouldn't give in when my back/neck/head hurt too bad). but our local walk-in stopped prescribing narcotics for tooth/jaw pain and I can't see a dentist right away...it stinks. I'm using ice packs and ibuprofen but it's not doing much more than making my cheek cold and giving me a stomachache. on top of all that...I think I may be pregnant, not sure - won't know for a few more days - but I know that ibuprofen in the early stages is bad so I stopped taking that this afternoon. I do have penicillin that I've had around the house since my kidney stones in september (bad, I know, but I didn't use it then because they switched me to Cipro so I kept it "just in case"...but its safe during pregnancy) so I'm taking that until I can get into a dentist...but this whole situation stinks.
I managed to avoid going in for my kidneys when they flared up last week and I was pleased with that, but this is getting to be bad. I can't open my jaw wide enough to eat and talking is hard - trying to yell at my 2-year-old is agony.
it didn't get bad until this morning..it hurt yesterday but this morning it was like OW...and now that I think I might be pregnant I'm freaking. I mean I thought earlier this month that we might've oopsied with my birth control but I didn't think about it until I realized that my period is getting closer and I'm starting to get all sorts of weirdo symptoms that only occur for me with pregnancy. not to mention...the last 3 times that my wisdom teeth caused problems like that was right around the time I found out I was pregnant with my other 2 and my miscarriage...so...that's kinda weird for me.
bleah anyway sorry for the ramble..I just don't knw what to do. I will see if my parents will give us some $$ to go to my dentist this week and be seen but with the new house and all the extra expenses this is the WORST time...not to mention it's going to set back my body's recovery if I do end up on pain meds again for a few days, won't it? It will reset all my endorphin producing and I'll have to restart that part of it...bleah. Really want to try to avoid that if possible, I'm already having so much trouble dealing with my body re-learning to produce endorphins that I don't want to drag out the process any longer than I have to...any suggestions on what to do?
I'm with vicki and sara on this one - the energy does return but it definitely takes some time. And the house is YOURS - vicki's right - YOU are paying for it so don't let them make you feel intimidated by it all. And hang in there - also not sure if you've tried this yet but I found the b12 sublingual tablets to help SO much for energy issues. And congrats on the new house!!! How fun and exciting is that? :)
Yes! Sarah"s so right! The energy returns but in increments. Eating all the right food helps!
Sometimes it's emotional,too! Like if the in laws are giving you stress,it's exhausting. They may hold the deed but you're paying! So it's your house,your renovation,your mess and your boxes! Don't push yourself...!! xo
Sometimes it's emotional,too! Like if the in laws are giving you stress,it's exhausting. They may hold the deed but you're paying! So it's your house,your renovation,your mess and your boxes! Don't push yourself...!! xo
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We didnt get to this place overnight and we seem to get very impatient. We look for instant results once we are off the pain meds and we forget that it takes time for our body to heal itself. Sooooooo what i am trying to say is Patience my dear, patience!!!
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I promise you this is just a phase. The energy and motivation takes some time to come back but it does!! This part is very frustrating so just stay positive.........sara
Thank you guys so much for all the support and kind words...you're all amazing, as usual. Vicki - yeah, the pain is what has me worried. it's been bad. but I realize it could be rebound so I'm gonna ride it out and see. I've also been pushing myself pretty hardcore while reno-ing the house and moving so hopefully I can relax a bit now, although my FIL and MIL are pushing to get the house unpacked (they technically hold the deed on the house, but we pay the mortgage until we can refinance and buy from them - we had no credit to purchase).
I'm wondering about something that has been seriously bugging me. I have NO motivation and NO energy...is that ever going to change? I feel just as apathetic and tired as I did on the pill, but with a whole lot more pain. It comes and goes so I know that every day isn't going to be like this from here on out....please promise me that this is just a phase :-(.
I'm wondering about something that has been seriously bugging me. I have NO motivation and NO energy...is that ever going to change? I feel just as apathetic and tired as I did on the pill, but with a whole lot more pain. It comes and goes so I know that every day isn't going to be like this from here on out....please promise me that this is just a phase :-(.
Welcolme back. Hope u has a nice mothers day n the move went well. Hope u get to enjoy life again (& that water park) with no pain :-)
Welcome back, Ashelen!! Sorry you're dealing with the depression and rebound pain. I've tapered down a little yet again. Not so bad with the withdrawals with it this time but the rebound pain is incredible. I've thought, too, about calling and say, "Yep, you're right. Put me back on the oxycodone." But so far I've not caved in. (They switched me to long-acting morphine 30 mg. twice a day and 15 to 30 mg. every four hours of the immediate release for break-through pain. Though I'm only doing 15 mg. of the long-acting, one in the a.m. and one in the p.m. And as for the BT, I'm really just taking one every 5 to 5 hours.) I am living on my ibuprofen. And I have a gel for my hand that helps a bit.
But the pain has me crippled (and cranky!) I figure I won't know for sure until I'm a solid month off everything (and it could be a little while until I get off what I'm on.) Like you, I'm not sure that I'll be able to stay off pain meds. But I'd prefer to do the procedures and other things like ibuprofen, heat wraps, etc. And IF I ever have to take narcotics again, I won't be "staying ahead of the pain" like before. I'll take it if I have a terrible day. One or two when the pain is excrutiating not every four hours round the clock.
You are amazing to me. You quit CT while suffering with real pain AND you did a major move all while taking care of small kids!!! Congratulations! Hope the pain eases up.
But the pain has me crippled (and cranky!) I figure I won't know for sure until I'm a solid month off everything (and it could be a little while until I get off what I'm on.) Like you, I'm not sure that I'll be able to stay off pain meds. But I'd prefer to do the procedures and other things like ibuprofen, heat wraps, etc. And IF I ever have to take narcotics again, I won't be "staying ahead of the pain" like before. I'll take it if I have a terrible day. One or two when the pain is excrutiating not every four hours round the clock.
You are amazing to me. You quit CT while suffering with real pain AND you did a major move all while taking care of small kids!!! Congratulations! Hope the pain eases up.
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Welcome back Ashelen!! Hopefully the pain issues will lessen with time. Enjoy the pool!! sara
I'm very happy for you honey!! But, you're NOT hopeful about staying out of PM?? Why?
Is it the pain?
Is it the pain?
YAY!!! That's so good to hear! Just keep going like you are! I'm glad that you are fighting it as much as you can. You may be able to get where you don't need them at all! Time will only tell! I"m sooooo happy for you though :) Even though you are in a lot of pain, you did it and you're doing super awesome :) Good job and just keep it up! ***I'm jealous about the pool you got! wish I had one to relax in!!!***
hi, its great to see you back! and i hope your settled in your new house, you have done so well, congrats on doing 2 weeks! i think you are probably wise to wait a bit, in case it is rebound pain, but dont suffer too much its ok to need some pain management, its just the way we do it that we have to watch! take care of yourself , onwards and upwards,
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