beach and beach comments from Nneedofhelp

Your probably an addict so your read your own interpertation into my words...

It hurt me dearly to write those words but I thought she was looking for truth.......
I gave it to her and answered her question of what I would do.......

Guilt is part of being an addict.......

I try very hard to help people but sometimes truth burns like holy water on Reagan.......and then their are posts like yours......



AJ10/325
6/14/2007
C10  Tooo Harsh You guys are soooo harsh!!! I think she knows very well that she 's got to quit.

She was just looking support(UNCONDITIONAL)!!!

I bet if this was one of you regulars here posting that ?, it would have been totally different.

I could almost feel how hurt must have been.....sad......sad......sad

Just my opinion, and how i observed it.

I also see , when a newby posts a ? and one of you respond and then you start talking among youself and seem yo just ignore the one who was asking for help..

I don't mean to be harsh. buttt.......

I do get alot of good advice from alot of the posts here, but i do see alot of (well not a loott) but some neg. stuff or something like that, just can't seem to describe what the negativeness is ...uhmmmmmm?



mom2rachie
6/14/2007
C11  NneedHope PLEASE READ I hope you read this... hydrocodone IS safe during pregnancy in small doses and the baby will NOT suffer wihdrawals if stopped a month or so BEFORE delivery BUT even in the worst case scenario, if you weren't able to stop, they can treat the withdrawl (withdrawal) symptoms if they know about it.
Suboxone and Subtex are NOT approved dring pregnancy yet at all so it's not wise to tell her to do that AND going c/t is extremely DANGEROUS for the baby as it will cause the mother's body to react insuch a stressful way it could very easily cause a miscarriage.
Beach, I respect your posts and 99.9% of the time I agree but you cannot simply dish out your generic "you're an addict, stop and get help now" speech to everyone... this situation, however sad, is a little different.
Perhaps she should just get through this pregnncy and then try and deal with the underlying issues of why she is abusing the medication afterwards.
Sweetheart, try and wean down. I don't know how many you're taking but less is best. Be honest with your doctors and take care of you.
Just so you know.... I was prescribed vicodin and percocet throughout my entire pregnancy by a nationally renowned pero-natal specialist. I manaed to wean down to nothing beforemy last trimester. My daughter was and is very healthy and smart.
Best of luck to you.

And Marcatj... How Dare You???
"this isn't just your life you are f***ing with - it's a childs!"
We've all done things in our addiction we are not proud of. I'd like to see you post about all the f-ed things you've done?? This woman came for help and you judge her? Sh eis not intentionaly hurtin her baby. She came because she does not want to do so. We all know that the addict loses their option for rational choice at one point or another. if someone sid to her, "take these pills and take a chance of hurting your unborn child or stop now" do you think she would consciously continue to take the pills?
Seriously people, if you live in a glass house...............

[AJ10/325]

this is to you too marcmj

[oxysbliss]

I hope you read your post...I did post something to you
Hang in there and i hope your day will come to abetter start...

Love
C

[beachtowel]

Hello and I am very glad that you posted...
You know something about posting here on the forum like anywhere else in life it is good to keep communications open...
If something bothers you about a post address it......
talk about it.....find out why someone said or reacted the way they did.....

Yes many times here I say STOP using get to recovery.......
Isn't that the ultimate goal?
What used to drive me nuts is when people were posting about tapering......
I used to take 50 vics a day and now I do 30 isn't that great........

I love to exhange witticisms so please feel free to post and talk with me about anything.....

I do 100% disagree with the second part of your post..........

If you tell an "addict" female who is a pill head and pregnant.........I'll give you these five oxy 80's if you swallow them now.....an addict won't think twice about her baby the pills are all that matters..........

I hate telling war stories but if I could tell just one....
I went through a bad crack phase in the mid eighties........
I was at a crackhouse when this chick walked in 9 months pregnant......
We sat together soon after and started puffing away....

She ran out of money and left........she returned 2 hours later after tricking to make some cash...but when she returned her big belly was gone and there was a ton of blood ...her jeans were saturated what happened next we sat together and smoked for another hour......when she got up off the carpet floor where we were sitting I remember seeing this huge red and kinda brown spot on the floor but you it wasn't that big of a deal to me at the time........

I guess my addiction over the years reached places many of you have only dreamed about and that is why I am so firm.......it starts out not that bad just some little w/ds but if not checked when your very young you won't believe how deep you will fall..........

[tztlady]

Good points AJ,  have a great day and thanks for posting.
tzt

[NneedHope]

what does that crackwhore have to do with my post?  I am so confused?