depression after oxy withdrawl(withdrawal)

i just finished a 3 day detox from oxy-contin (40 mg. X 3 a day.
besides feeling a little weak and ringy, i seem to be physically
ok. what is bothering me is the the mother of all depressions. i
am talking putting a gun in my mouth depession. approx. how long
will this last. i periodically detox myself to find out where my
pain levels are at.(i don't want to be on oxy if i don't have to)
i've never expierenced this level of post physical depression.
is there something about oxy that gives it more of an emotional
"buzz saw" than other opiate withdrawal? it seems to me there is,
as i've expierenced withdrawl (withdrawal) from other opiates and all though
they were physically more unpleasent, there was not this compent
of emotional. i'm already taking 400 mg of welbutronn a day, and
that seems to help some. today is my 4th day clean and i have no
physical symptoms of withdrawal, just this suicidal emotional
pain i seem to have no control over!

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[Schlub]

Hey Kip,

I don't know the answer to your question for sure, but I do believe that taking 5-HTP, L-Tyrosine & B6, and a zinc/magnesium combo tablet can make you feel a noticeable improvement in the lethargy and dysphoria that occurs after opiate withdrawals.

If you want details on the dosages suggested for those supplements and amino acids, let me know.

And by the way, did you use Buprenex to help you withdraw from the oxys?

Meanwhile, hang in there. Time also helps enormusly, generally producing a "felt" improvement almost daily.

Let me know how you're doing.

[1fortheroad]

hi - i would like dosing information for the detox recipe.  i read that the recipe info is on the ezboard or something...i ALWAYS have problems getting to anything posted on the ezboard...not sure why.  anyhow, any info would be greatly appreciated!!

[Beige]

I am so sorry to hear about your emotional drainage. I am not sure of oxy's but I know the withdrawls from hydro produced a lot of deep depression in me. i have heard that the depression from oxys is worse. I don't have any answers for you skipper but I wish i did because I know when someone has a problem you are always there reaching out. Do you think maybe something would work better than the Welbutrin? I will search the other forum to see if there is any info on this. good Luck skipper. And you know as bad as it seems now, it will improve.

Beige

[1fortheroad]

i tried to email you, but it came back - your email address must be wrong here...

can't you post your question here?  we talk about everything here anyhow - doesn't seem like much doesn't get discussed...ahah

[Schlub]

Groovy:

Here's the info.

But in addition, could I please ask you to email me at ***@**** because I have an urgent question to ask you regarding Buprenex? Really, it's important.

Anyway, here's the dosage info for the supplements part of Dr. Thomas' detox recipe. Hlso recommends Immodium, Valiem, etc. for the first few detox days, but I don't have that info. What follows is just the supplements that supposedly help restore your brain to normal functioning. And people do swear by it, so there's a decent chance that it really does help:

1) 8 X 500mg caps of L-Tyrosine (or 4,000 mg), taken with 2 100 mg. caps of B-6. Take this on an empty stomach first thing in the morning each day for at least the first week of detox. L-Tyrosine restores the dopamine and epinephrine stores in your body.

2) 2 X 50 mg. capsules of 5-HTP, taken 3 times daily at least two hours after taking the L-Tyrosine. You may want to start out taking 3 times 1 50mg cap to see if it upsets your stomach, then work your way up to 3 X 2 50mg caps 3 times daily. Your body metabolizes 5-HTP directly into serotenin, which is seriously depleted during addiction.

3) Get the highest dose zinc + magnesium combination supplement -- I think you can get one that has 500 mg. magnesium and 25 mg. zinc. Take two per day with the L-Tyrosine and B-6. Zinc and magnesium are supposedly seriouslyu depleted during addiction.

That's about it. Like I say, a number of people who have tried these supplements say they can actually feel the difference in terms of relieving some of the lethargy and post-withdrawal depression that afflicts recovering opiate users during the first weeks of recovery. Good luck.

And please, Groovy, email me at ***@****, okay?

  
        

[Schlub]

Can't imagine why the email would bounce back.

It's ***@****

Try again?

[jennyfla]

(((HUGS)))
I've never known a person to be so strong as to detox each month, on their own just to prove that you can do it.  You amaze me and you are a constant inspiration to me because i think, if Kip can do this every month, i certainly can do this once!
I really believe that the depression will ease off over time, but your detoxes last on average 10 days or so?  If you take the route and take oxys again, the depression will ease up, or if you take the route and try to quit, but i know that hard because of your pain, then it WILL get better over time.
Try the 5HTP, i've heard wonderful things about it.
Try to focus on the things that make you happy in your life.  You have a wonderful wife (Irishrose), and your cool doggie!!! :)
Maybe try to do some laps, that might cheer you up.
Spring is just around the corner, things will begin to warm up in Nebraska, the sun will shine, the birds will sing and the flowers will come out!!!!
Thank god i live in florida because when i get depressed, i plant flowers.  Let's just say i have 'some' flowers in my yard!!!  :)
Anyway, just know that everyone loves you here, you are always there for everyone no matter how much you are hurting; you're a very special person, and don't ever forget that!!
To answer your question, as a person who also uses oxys, i do feel that they ger down deep inside, they are very hard to let go of.  When you need them for pain is one thing, but when they are abused (like i do), then we're talking playing with a big ball of fire!!!
Hang in there a better day is just around the corner!
Lv Jenny

[negative blues]

I stumbled upon this site ti try and figure out what the exact withdrawl (withdrawal) effects are for vics, oxys & delauded and couldn't help but respond to your message...when I stop I get seriously nailed with a very heavy depression (I have depression but the feeling I get after stopping the oxy is very intense). Unfortunately, I think it's just byproduct of it's use (I'm sure there are plenty of physiological and psychological theories to this). IT SUCKS MAJOR!!!! but, it will not kill you...it's hard to deal with when every hour (or minute) a dark thought arises. However, as typical with depression, the intensity is not always there. While your dealing with it try noticing the moments when it's not too intense...I think it can be a sign suggesting that those moments of intensity will gradually lessen and the momnets of feeling normal will return. Also, walking briskly (meaning fast enough to get your heart and blood pumping) for about a 1/2 hour a day helps.
-C

[Francoise]

I've been on oxy for three and a half years, and during that time for various reasons, I've experienced the depression you're referring to. It's a *******, man. But you gotta keep that gun outta your mouth. I came close and now I'm so damn glad I didn't.

I am taking 150 mg Effexor. It seems to be working well. You can take up to 300 or so.

I recommend you get some Klonopin for the depression duration. But you gotta be careful with that. No sudden stops, just a nice easy taper down to the Valium level, then taper the valium nice and slow. Stay away from the Xanax. That **** is poison. And don't take any of the benzos too long.

Hang in there brother, I'm sending all the energy I can spare in your direction.

Love, Peace, and Light,
Francois

[Witchywoman]

Kip my friend, I'm so sorry to hear that depression is hitting you full force like this.  I have heard that with oxy depression is a stronger post detox symptom than with hydro, but I know that with my hydro detox, the post detox depression was huge for me as well...I got suicidal thoughts that time, and I've never felt those before.

Something you said made me wonder about a possible reason for this. You've said that with past detoxes the depression never really was that bad.  I'm wondering if because you put your body through detox so often that your brain chemistry keeps getting bounced around so much that the depletion of neurotransmitters are just worse than normal.  Detox is a very, very stressful event on the body, and especially on the brain's neurotransmitter system.  While I *totally* understand your need to know what your true level of pain is, in order to not be on the oxy if you don't have to, I'd suggest you stretch out the detox times to every few months, rather than once a month.
Your pain level may not significantly change in just one month, but over three or four months, it might drop enough for you to no longer need the oxy.
And I'm really wondering if putting yourself through the intense physical stress of detox every 4 to 6 weeks is putting you at greater and greater risk for debilitating depressions.

I'm no doctor, so I may not know what I'm talking about here...but just wanted to put this out there as a though.  Take some time to think about how often you think a change in your pain level is likely to occur, and base your detox choice on giving your body a longer break between that roller coaster ride.

And please, go easy on yourself. The world *is* a better place because you are in it.

I've not been posting much, here, or anywhere, but your post really got my attention and I will always be here for you if you need me. You're stuck with me!
And...today is my 6 month clean date.  Wow.  Whodda thunk it?

lots of love,
WW

[skipper]

hey people:
thankyou for your support! things are looking somewhat beter to-
day. hope to post more later
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[skipper]

jennyfla:
i know i've told you this many times before: you were the first
person to answer my first post to this forum in late spring of
last year. you have always been willing to welcome most every
newcomer. this has not been overlooked (least not by me)! make
no mistake about this, the forum is a far beter place because of
your efforts!!

keep an angel on your shoulder & never throww your dreams away!
kip

[littleguy]

Jenny,

Skipper is right.  You are a very special person.

littleguy

[vikequeen]

what are the names of the detox substances and where can you get them?

[my2boys99]

Hi there - Let me first say that I have never taken narcotics.  But my dear MIL has taken them for 20 years for pain (head/neck).  After 17 years of percodan and the last two years on MS contin (60 mg x 3), the doctors determined it was time to detox.  Increasing levels were not helping her pain - only causing her to sleep all day long.  

Anyway, she went through a one week detox in the hospital with the help of buprenorphine.  Only 2 days was it unbearable.

However, now that she's home (she's been home for 7 days now), she is extremely depressed.  She has never felt depressed in her life so this is very upsetting.  She also cannot sleep at night.  The doctor just put her on 10 mg Elavil today which I think is too low, but we'll see.  I feel so sorry for her.  I myself have felt depressed before (severe post-partum depression) and it is the worst feeling.  I am very sorry to hear you're going through it too.  

I have done a lot of research for my MIL.  Narcotics cause euphoria (I know I don't need to tell you this), and after stopping them, it's normal to experience dysphoria for quite some time, depending on how long you've taken the drug.

I just wanted to let you know that my MIL is going through it too - I know MS Contin and Oxycontin are similar.

Best of luck to you - hang in there,
Jane

[jennyfla]

Awww gosh guys!  You had to go and make me smile!!! :)
Well I appreciate it, and I won't ever throw away my dreams, they are too special to me!! :)
As long as I have hope, there is hope, and I will try to hold on to that until I can do what needs to be done.  From then on, anything is possible, the world will be my oyster (with a big pearl inside)!
Kip, i hope the depression as let up for you, you suffer enough, you don't need depression on top of all your pain!
Littleguy, you're always there for me, everywhere I go, thanks for being you (The biggest heart in Atlanta!!!!! :)
:)
Lv Jenny

[Schlub]

Yes, Jane, it's the post-withdrawal depression and lethargy that are the hardest for recovering addicts to bear. And according to astudy I just read on doctordelucca.com, most relapses occurr not during the first week of detox (when phsyical symptoms are the worst) but during the 2nd -10th weeks or so when this dysphoria and lethargy bear down on us. The single greatest cause of relapse, in fact, is post-withdrawal insomnia.

So it's good that your MIL is receiving at least some medical help for that. But tell her to hang on -- even if it's just day by day -- until the dark cloud passes. Because it absolutely will pass, we know this with certainty. And once it does, her life will be free and open and happy again -- or at least as free and happy as it was before she became addicted.

As for the question on detox meds, if you're referring to Buprenex (called Temgesic in other countries), it's available at various detox clinics in the U.S. as well as by doctor's prescription (although most have never even heard of Buprenex). You can also order it in sublingual tablet form from online pharmacies such as www.healthcarepharma.com.

[J.B. to Brian and Vicky]

Skip, my friend, what a coincidence that we are both on Welbutrin.  I take 300 mgs per day. I've been away from this board for several days but I remember saying in one of my last posts that I would likely be defeated by depression.  Being somewhat spiritual, I believe that depression is the Devil's last resort to bring us down for good! When all else fails...?

Sadly, depression is a fatal condition for many of us.  I too, have found myself with a pistol's muzzle pressed against my forehead. With me it starts with..."I should just leave, people would be better off without me!" Hah! How egotistical can one get?

If nothing else, you owe your loved ones the pleasure of your presence.  Don't ever feel that you are not loved, Kip.  You mean so much to the many who you touch in your humble way. Being an "honest to goodness" down to earth and honest person who gives a damn about people is your loving gift to us all!

Hang on, Buddy!

J.B.

[ssfr]

skip my friend- sounds like you are feeling a little better- but please never forget- that the world is a much better place for you having been here- throughout the last year or longer- you have provided me insights, knowledge, compassion, caring, sympathy, not to mention a whole lot of laughs with some of your stories-
and for that- i thank you
vic

[Schlub]

Skip, talk to us.

See how many people here care about you and look up to you.

[Schlub]

Yes, but how do we deal with this panic of withdrawal, the sense that we're totally alone and coming apart and doomed to fail. And that the only relief (albeit temporary) is to use again?

I tell myself it's only mental. How come it feels like it's not helping?

[jennyfla]

(((HUGS))) Kip!!!
I feel for you, i really do!  I know that's not what your looking for, but i can't help it.
I don't think you're going to loose your wife, she cares and loves you very much, i can tell!
Talk to you doctor, look into your options, you never know!
I wish i could be my 'old self' again too, i miss me!
My husband is so far far away, i don't know if i will ever see him again.  The only time i 'see' him is when he's in rehab.
He is so in a fog, it scares me because is talking suicide a lot these days.  I can't do anything right, everything is my fault, and he's falling apart right in front on my eyes and it tears my heart to shreads to watch.  I'm calling someone today, gonna try to get him in to 'talk' to someone at least.  Screw the drs, they've never helped in the past, i'm gonna try someone 'real'.
He doesn't need drugs, he needs someone to talk to, and i'm not the right person, it's obviously not helping to talk to me anymore.
Good luck Kip, and know that you help so many, even if it comes at a cost for you, from experience.  BUT, remember, we all have a purpose here in this world, and everything is for a reason.  I will say a prayer that your pain will decrease so that you will be able to cut your ties with medication forever!!!!
(((HUGS)))
Love Jenny

[jennyfla]

How's everything going.  I know, i hate when people ask me that question too!
Just wanted to let you know that i'm thinking about you, i haven't seen you post very much lately!
Hope things are at least stable with me and you.
Depression is definately an awful disease and much more common than most people know.
I just pray one that that no one will have to suffer from these awful diseases of the mind (addiction, depression, etc.)  
Isn't the world hard enough, why are we made to suffer so.
Hang in there, and know you have friends that care and think about you often!
(((HUGS)))
Lv Jenny

[hope.me]

hello this is my first time to post. i didn't know they where so many people with the same problem i have. oxy withdrawal. Have you ever had burning of the skin, and memory loss, God i can't remember anything. My family tells me all the time i've sit and watched movies on tv. and i don't remember. Gonna beat this though, just like you skip. this is one lesson i will never forget. Pain was the problem now the problem is what tried to stop the pain. It worked for awhile, matter of fact it still does. It's not worth it, if i can just get the monkey off my back. Sorry about the grammar. Hope i didn't waste anyones time. Thank You....hope.me

[skipper]

schlub:
i believe i've told you this before, but us addicts got thick
stubborn little skulls. NOTHING NEW EVER HAPPENS IN THE WORLD
OF DRUGS! the new is what comes after we stop usingn drugs.

both of us are in a "bad place" right now, what are we going to
do? scream for mamma? i don't thik so. i think i'm going to do
exactly what you are doing and post to you and all the other
(good people) addicts on this forum. we may not get it right the
first time, but by god i'm gonna keep trying! anybody with me?

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[skipper]

all the addicts:

sorry for not posting for so long. i'm ok mostly. have awful pain
in neck that runs down my right arm. had to go visit my father
who is nursing home and is losing his mind on the instalment
plan. took 20 mgs of oxy-c for car ride (3 1/2 hours). i also
took 20mg for car ride back.

ya know i always thought oxy-c in copious quantity helped me
handle this nursing home stuff. you know watching your father
become less and less the man he once was.... well this time i did
the whole visit clean and believe it or not it went much beter
straight.

i will probably go back on oxy thursday after seeing the pain
doc. i want to discuss some other pain control options. i don't
know if it will lead to any thing...

**** i'm sitting at the computer with tears runing down my face.
my wife let out a causual remark about how pleasent it was to
have the "the real kip" back. i'm sure she didn't me for it to
make me feel guilty, but it did.

the way i see it right now i have 3 options:
1) stay on oxy and possiably lose my wife
2) try to find other ways to cope with intractable pain that
don't involve drugs
3) get the gun in my mouth and get me and everyone out of my mis-
ery.

i don't like any of these choices. i never thought about what i
would do if i ever actually NEEDED opiate pain killers when i
used to rip off drugstores and shoot all the dope i could put my
hands on! well i guess i'm at the point in my life where many of
my transgessions have caught up with me. (**** i thought i paid
up and cleaned up in jail) i'm not in a good place with any of
this... but i have this forum to draw strength from!

like Jim Foggel said in drug store cowboy, "i think i'll stay
straight today- maybe something good will happen. it doesn't
sound like much, but that's what i got going for me right now.

please remember i am going to love and care about all of you, and
there isn't one god damm thing any of you can do about it! the
really bad days are what make the really good days

so keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[Schlub]

In other words, skip, what happened to whatever strength and fortitutde I once had?

[skipper]

schlub:
ah yes the panic. it's some what like claustrophobia compacted
down and put right in your chest and stomach. i have access to
clonipin. it's about as safe and long acting as a benzo gets.
even though it works, i've never desired to use for much more than a week. other than that i don't know what. don't you have access
to bup?
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[butterbeans]

Hi friends!!!  I know I don't post often, but, read often. I want you to know that you, no one else, has helped me to make a decicion to stop abusing painkillers.  I am only clean for a week now, but, I feel so good.  One reason is that I finally broke down and told a friend of mine, who is a therapist too, and I trust him.  I told him, only because I knew that would be the only way I would stop and stick to it.  I won't let him down.  I really feel good right now, more alive, sexier, and look at the things around me that mean so much.  I am more organized.  I went to the movies today, and will go again tomorrow, alone.  Getting out of the house and not thinking about paikillers is wonderful.  I am going to keeep this up.  I am strong.  I never used any drugs before, none illegal.  I only got addicted to these pills because they helped my severe pain so I started taking too many at one time.  But, I never tried to get more.  I just went through withdrawal over and over until my next presccription.  Sick of that!  Man that hurts!!!And I was so ashamed and embarrassed for myself, because I have dealt with so much trauma in my life, abusive childhood, abusive first marriage, and I got out of them when I was ready.  So you see, that's how I know I can do this.  Witchy Woman if you read this, I am proud of you, and you helped me a lot.  JennyFla you have been so sweet and kind so much like me.  You will do this too, when the time is right.  I kind of hit rock bottom.  My doc ordered sleeping pills because I wasn't sleeping.  those pills made me crazy , I called people and left message on phones and everyone said what in the world was wrong with me.  OH my God, how could I have done that.  Turns out those sleeping pills cause short term memory loss, and hallucinations if you take them and then get up and move around.  No one told me that. But, I thank them, they saved me.  I am stoppingall this stuff,  I cannot stop seeing the birds, pushing my career more and more, finding another friend and lover.  None of this has mattered for the last several years, the pills took care to be my lover, my friends, and took away my emotional pain.  Well, I am ready to live again.  Skipper, think about what is out there!  It doesn't matter how long you have used, you can stop.  Get help if need too.  Feel your own body again, get your sex life back with your lovely wife, see the sun rise. I have to think of all this and everyone else and stop dwelling on my own pain.  That is how I will do this.  Bless all of you.  I will pray everyday for all of you, especially Witchywoman, Skipper and Jennyfla who have stood by me and many more.  Love you guys!

[Schlub]

Kip, I must be really dumb (aside from having a rotten personality) but it never occurred to me that part of what I was feeling was anxiety & panic, which the Bup doesn't really help in the first few days. So I took acouple of 5 mg valiuems and that claustrophobic feeling you talked about pressing down on my chest so much that it feels hard to breathe has lessened.

Thanks for the advice.

How do I keep my mind from being subverted by the panic of withdrawal? Without that panic, without what this addiction does to your mind, I might treat my current symptoms as not much worse than a bad flu. But it makes me crazy.

I lose all courage, all fortitude.

Listening to me whine, you would never guess that I spent many years working as a war correspondent, would you?

Look what happened to me. No courage, no grit. What a shame.

I'll hang in for one more day, the try again tomorrow for one more day after that. And it's not like I have a bad life, nothing to fight for.

I've got a perfect marriage and a newborn baby.

What a pathteic loser I am.

[Schlub]

sorry for the double post -- I have no idea how that happened, but it does seem to emphasize what a loser I am.

[skipper]

schlub:
it sounds as if your not winning the fight you seem to be having
with your self! i know that feeling too. it comes with terms like
loser, pathetic.... you are not in condition to access your self
worth! try to get some sleep tonight....maybe something good will
happen tomarrow!
at any rate, keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[hope.me]

hello , this is my first time to address my problem and ya'lls. I have been on oxy 80mg, for 3 years. At this time I and my Dr. are helping myself to feel like a real human being should feel. I have been wheaned down to percocet. From reading all the post i've read it will take me awhile to beat this, but i will beat this and never be put in this kind of a mess again, because of pain. The pain is bad , but nothing compared to this living hell. Alot of things kip and someone fla has said have helped me already and everyone who posts on this forum. I was burning like fire, not sleeping, i never took the gun to my head, but i thought about it alot. Now, i'm gonna beat this problem. My Dr. understands my problem, ( he should ). I don't sleep well but the burning is gone for now. Hopefully i will never get this dependent on something so terrible, that i just hope i get over this and if i can, i think the pain will be no problem, because this is the most pain anyone should ever have to go through. Please excuse the grammar and God Bless all of you and God Bless our country. Thank You for listening. hope.me

[Schlub]

I'm in a bad place myself right now, but I'm thinking about you Skip. You have a real strength in you that I, who spend so much time whining about my "symptoms," really admire.

I hope that strength of yours leads you to some answers -- or at least, some partial answers.

Take care.

[skipper]

hope.me:
welcome to this forum. there will always be room for one more ad-
dict, so please come in. if you get nothing else from the people in this forum besides knowing your not alone your visit will have been worthwhile.

never got the burning skin from oxy (yet), but my wife can tell you all about my memory loss. i don't think it's permanent. stick with us at this forum and there will always be an understanding person who has been where you at and where your headed.

posting for the first time is an ultimate act of courage and sur-
render. further posting will help bring back some of the common
sense that addicts forsake to their disease. the strength you
gain from posting is also strength given to a suffering addict.

i used to wake bewildered
by my actions and words.
i was a small person in
a world growing ever smaller.

today i awake bewondered
still a small person
in a world that grows
ever larger everday

gods speed in finding what you need hope.me

& keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[confused.grl]

i am new to this forum, i stumbled upon this site by accident?
Or so i like to tell myself, i started to use oxycotin for my pain. After reading peoples stories i realized that alot of you are telling my story in a way. I did not realize that other people could know my deep dark secrets. I am a mother of 3, and i have a drug problem(first time i ever admitted) thank you for your stories.
              confused.

[jennyfla]

Wow girl, you sound so strong, you are definately going to make it!!!  I'm so happy to hear you are feeling good so soon, that's a great sign!!!
Keep up the good work, and thank you for mentioning that i was a help to you during your time with addiction!
Give yourself a great big hug for me!! :)
Hey, and get a little of that 'sex' thing for me, huh, because i have no idea what that is anymore!  (ugh!)
Lv Jenny

[Schlub]

Hi Skip (and everyone):

I am feeling better today. The Buprenex is helping enormously, so I'll be fine until I stop using it in a few days. Then comes the depression and lethargy, which is almost unbearable to me.

But there's no way around it, is there?

[skipper]

schlub:
i just read a post from you today on another thread, so i guess
i can assume you made it through the night ok. just wanted to
let you know my thoughts were with you (i had a real sleepless
night). hold your head up high and know that you are doing the
very best you can. i'm not kidding when i tell you something
good might happen today!

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[Dawnslight]

I'm about to stop cold turkey from my addicition of oxy 20mg 3x daily.  But along w/oxy, I take lortab 10/500 up to 20 per day!  I'm off work the next 8 days to try to detox from all of them.  Should I do this alone w/my hubby at night after work w/me.  Or try detox under supervision?  I have ambien if I need it.

I didn't want to go to detox and deal w/roomates and share bath rooms.  I'm sure I'll be on the toliet for most of my day.  Other than that, I don't know what to expect.  Except I get cold easily, and from the few times I was w/out meds for a day.  I was shivering, had goosebumps and cramps.  What's up with all the comments about depression after detox.  I don't think I could handle any more of what I'm currently going through.

I know my chronic pain condition will still be there haunting me without my pills, but I'm getting far too carried away with the dosage at this point in my life.

I don't know what to expect and would appreciate any and all help from you guys out there.  I've read lots of different posts, and it's making me more afraid of what withdrawl (withdrawal) will be like.  How long will the worst of it last?  Been taking the oxy for 4 years and the lortab about 13 years.

Then, what do I do once the worst is over?  Where do I go for help on learning how to take my meds properly and to understand why I took them for reasons other than my pain.

Any feedback would really be well received!

Thanks,
DawnsLight

[stars]

i am so glad that you are taking the first steps to recovery!!!!  you recognize your problem and want to do something about it.  i do not have alot of answers to your questions, but i would like to add that i "cold turkey'd" off of 20+ vicodin a day..  it was a long hard habit...  but i know that my withdrawl (withdrawal) symtoms (symptoms) will be different than yours..  i have noticed that alot of people on here are discussing the depression issue...  i have not experienced any depression, but only due to the fact that i am taking lots of anti-depressants even while i was taking my vicodin.  i know that my first day of stopping, was bad...  i had all kinds of feelings going thru me.  that was the ONLY day i experienced anything close to being depressed.  i can truly say that i have been very happy since i have quit...  i think i have laughed more the last two weeks than i have the last 2 years....  i didnt think about the consequences of inneracting the 3 medications, but i am sure glad i did, because i believe that is what saved me from hitting the lows...  i have read posts on here similar to mine, but i would not recommend this without your doctor knowing.  after i came clean to my dr. about the vicodin abuse she was pretty pissed, not to mention i have to go in for random drug testing.  i have gotten lined up for a addiction recovery group and i'm looking really forward to that, before i go on to the next addiction.  i know my life is through with pain medication. i contacted the dr. that was prescribing them and told him "NO MORE, NEVER AGAIN!!!!!  

i wish you all the luck in the world...  i still believe that the price we pay in detoxing is well worth it!!!  i still free as though i have been asleep for so long..  everything is clear, i am happier than i have been in a very long time...  it was time... spring is on its way here, time for re-birth...  i will keep you close in prayer...  please keep coming back to the boards.  you are in very good hands here.  we love you and will support you all we can....  

blessings....  stars

[LAPPER]

hello everyone,

i have been taking o.c.'s for about the last 9 mos.
sometimes 4-40's a day and i am ready to come clean. like everybody else the withdrawl (withdrawal) and a drug test i know is coming
very soon. has anybody heard of rapid detox [4-6 hrs.-dr. supervised]? i was thinking about checking into that.
has anybody heard or done that? and if so could you please
elaborate............

                            lost in phila.

[Kee]

not being able to sleep is my biggest problem, and hot flashes and i haven't been able to eat for a few days.  I have been using heroin daily for over 8 years (with a few months here and there in methadone clinics) I have recently hit the bottom of rock bottom.  this is the last chance i have to get clean and stay clean.  I have many legal and financial problems that i have run from, I am lucky enough to be given this chance to come clean.  I am hiding out in a rural new england cabin.  I took my last meth pill yesterday. I only have 6 dollars which wouldn't be enough for gas to get me anywhere.  I try to explain to myself the insanity of addiction, but i can't and i know that anyone who hasn't been there can't even begin to understand it. the symptoms of withdrawl (withdrawal) keep me going back.  I am not sure why i am writing here.  I guess it's because i read a bunch of postings and they were supportive. and about oxy's i am not sure what you all saw in them except that they were prescribed, I could eat them (shoot them) all day long and they barely even tickeled me. well good luck to everyone. I know that either death or jail are my only other options if i don't turn things around.

[Kee]

not being able to sleep is my biggest problem, and hot flashes and i haven't been able to eat for a few days.  I have been using heroin daily for over 8 years (with a few months here and there in methadone clinics) I have recently hit the bottom of rock bottom.  this is the last chance i have to get clean and stay clean.  I have many legal and financial problems that i have run from, I am lucky enough to be given this chance to come clean.  I am hiding out in a rural new england cabin.  I took my last meth pill yesterday. I only have 6 dollars which wouldn't be enough for gas to get me anywhere.  I try to explain to myself the insanity of addiction, but i can't and i know that anyone who hasn't been there can't even begin to understand it. the symptoms of withdrawl (withdrawal) keep me going back.  I am not sure why i am writing here.  I guess it's because i read a bunch of postings and they were supportive. and about oxy's i am not sure what you all saw in them except that they were prescribed, I could eat them (shoot them) all day long and they barely even tickeled me. well good luck to everyone. I know that either death or jail are my only other options if i don't turn things around.

[angst]

jails, institutions or death.  i'm a dilaudid junkie.  i've been on methadone twice.  i detoxed off the 1st time without too much trouble, tapering down, keeping immodium close by, drinking gatorade.  i hurt in places i never knew existed.  i was clean for 6 months with the help of NA.  then i relapsed, 1 -2 -3 times.  the second relapse was the worse.  it landed in 2 different rehabs.  it was rehab or lose my nursing license.  i found out the rehab was treating the licensure requirements, not me.  they had me on a slow phenobarb detox (for i had been on one or another benzo since i was 14, and now i'm 36), they kept the seizures at bay, but i had a heart attack. i held on to my psyche as hard as i could.  i got out and was betrayed by my family.  i had spend my birthday and Thanksgiving day-same day in one rehab.  then most of december in another rehab.  my ex and daughter dropped me at my sister's house.  as soon as i got money in my hands, a trigger for me, i went back to the dope man's house.  this  was  my 3rd and final relapse.  not too many months passed before i knew i was going to be doing flat backs for $25, die, or go back to methadone.  methadone saved my life this time.  i'm not putting a time limit on it.  i've come off before and i know what hell is.  i am getting stronger and stronger about drugs.  
i think so much of you kicking in a cabin in the woods.  i have good thoughts for you.  you are one hell of a guy.  keep up the good work and keep posting.

[boonej317]

I am to one of you guys except i was never prescribed oxycottins.  A buddy came over one day with some 80 mg oxys and we snorted them and ive been doing them now for 6 months.  Well actualy Roxycodone 30mg the blue ones is what ive been on but pretty much the same thing.  Now I need to stop, I have tried in the past when i couldn't get my hands on them and it was to hard!!  I am emotional body hurts, depressed, no energy, and cant sleep.  

I know if i just take one pill this will all go away.  What to do.  So i get some more always.  I am now talking to you guys on my first day with nothing again.  I dont plan on getting any more now that i moved to a new state i cannot get them.  I am crying this whole time writing and i dont even know why!  This is horrible.  I cant get any of the prescriptions that you guys can get because i was never prescribed anything i just got them off the streets.  Now its just so imbarable i cant stand it.  I have a wife and a daughter and im 22 years old.  I want to feel normal again but its so hard.  PLEASE HELP!  is there anything i can take that is over the counter that may help me??  

[desperate0103]

HEY THERE I AM TOTALLY IN THE SAME BOAT AS U TODAY IS MY 4TH DAY OFF OXY'S I WAS DOING ABOUT 3 80 MGS PILLS A DAY WITH MY FIANCE ITS BECOME A HUGE PROBLEM IN MY LIFE AND I DESPERATLY NEEDED TO GET OFF OF THEM !! AND I AM FEELING THE SAME WAY AS U ARE THE DEPRESSION IS BIG FOR ME TOO...IM ALSO FEELING PRETTY WEAK!! BUT IM SURE WE CAN PULL THRU....KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SKIPPER!!

[GA Guy]

Hi...You have both posted on very old posts that may be passed over by some forum members. You can post a new question on your own thread if you don't get many replies. In the mean time..there's some info on my profile page that may be of some help...just click on the blue Ga Guy link to the left of this post...