detoxing hebie gebies help

i have a question  this is my brother 10th day off norco's he is taking several vitimans but is there a natural one that helps with that feeling that he has that comes over him with the hebie gebies i dont know if its nerves are what but he is taking a daily men vit for over 50 plus magnesium & potassium and hyland restful leg and melatonin . its just durring the day a feeling comes over him and he just goes and layes down is there anything natural that helps with that feeling ? please help . a worried sister

[10356]

Hello Wildflower. I'm very Happy for your Brother 10 days is Awesome !! In extension I'm happy for you as you must have been very worried for him.. Exercise helps well with anxiety. he may have to force himself but the benefits are great.. walking around outside if he can will help with all the symptoms. also they sell a product Valerian Root it is Natural and will also help with anxiety sorta like Natures Valium.. He should be feeling better with each passing day just tell him to try to stay busy active it really makes a difference. take care.
I posted this to you as your question was moved to living with a addict forum. the Valerian Root can be bought at walmart out any drug store.. lesa

[wildflower58]

thank you for your help , where can i buy this valerian root

[10356]

at walmart our any drug store I used it and it works very well It stinks just so you know and is very inexpensive..

[kyle505]

I'm in day 12 detox from Norco 10s, 8 to ten a day for well over a year. I found that amino acids help; I'll see if I can find the link that was sent to me and repost. I don't use them all, but the ones I do, along with exercise, Vit B12, B6, C and multis seem to work. I'll look and get right back to you.

[kyle505]

Try this...
http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/Addiction/Amino-Acid-Protocol/show/15?cid=66

Not sure if you can just click on the link like I did; not real familiar with re posting this stuff. Again, if you can get on this, look at what is said about each of the products and then use what may work best.

[wildflower58]

well like i said he hasn't had such a dood day , its like he was trying to stay busy today and he just came up to me and said my stomach is so sick my body is hurting all over let me have one to settle it, i said no look what u been threw and where your at now 10 days he said just a half then to settled me down . he has been doing so good compared to what his first few days where like , whats going on here been 100 days today off norco's he was a heavy user i know but i'd thought the stomach part would of settled down by now , this is your 12th day ? do u remember your 10th day being rufe ? its like hes mad at me . when he comes out of his room he talks to everyone but me . please help me understand .

[wildflower58]

sorry wrote 100 day meant 10 , my head isnt own straight

[kyle505]

Do you still have pills in the house? If so, I'd dump them right now. I can swear to you that if I knew there were pill available, my whole mental attitude would have been different, and I would have said ANYTHING, including complaining about stomach pain, to get one. Having said that, what gets my stomach upset is the anxiety. Pills or no pills, anxiety and stress can mess up your gut, and I can assure you he's experiencing both, with a little panic mixed in for good measure.

[wildflower58]

well thats whats hard i have chronic pain myself and the dr has me on pain meds , i knew it would be hard around me trying to come off them , but he abused them so much , he would take what the dr wrote him for his back and would  allways borrow from me , i just dont know what to do , i plan myself to try to stop taking them when the dr can get my pain under control , but there is no way we can both be going threw what he is at the same time . so u can see its been very hard watching someone come off something your own yourself , lord i just dont know what to do , i dont take uhm around him knor do i talk about them . what a mess i dont know what to do .

[lulu747]

Hi WIld..
Okay...Take a deep breath.  Do you and your brother live together?  It is really going to make this process a lot harder..and it's important to set yourself and your brother up for success...
Like Kyle said-at this point it is the anxiety that is upsetting his stomach- as at day ten he is post-acute w/d...The pills you have are like crumbs of food for a starving person....It is one thing to get clean...It's another thing to stay that way..That's why aftercare and sober environments are so important for someone in recovery...I know this may be hard-but the best thing to do for your brother is to get the pills out of the equation...Any way that you can.
I wish you both all the best....Lu

[wildflower58]

i know your right lulu , i just dont know how to handle this problem , i never take my meds around him knor do i discuss my meds , and yes he lives with me and my family . he knew when he started this i was on pain meds for a damange nerve from my spine that goes down my leg, i take injections every 3 months .we are very close thats why i was so shocked he turned on me today , he has knowned all along his recovery that i took pain meds me taking them was never brought up till today when he ask for one , i felt like the bad guy and had to say no ! i have been there for him these past 10 days bringing him soups , drinks , just what ever i could do to help and now its like he doesnt even want to speak to me , why after 10 days did this start  ? i'am so confused and watching him go threw what he has knowing i take myself has been very streesfull on me knowing one day i will be going threw this .he has no where to go live at this moment but my home , so lord i pray he wakes up in better sprits and feeling better , i know it takes time to gain his strenght back but its like i'm cauessing him pain & sickness at this point . lord give me strenght and him strenght , thank you everyone for listing to me i do believe i'd lost it myself by now if i didn't have all of you listing to me , thank you

[kyle505]

I can only offer my perspective, and since I'm just two days farther along than he is, it is pretty much from his point of view. On day ten, it was tuff, I was happy to be clean, but my mind was still talking to me non stop. I was finished with the hell of days 1 - 5, and feeling a bit better. In fact, the thought of taking a pill crossed my mind many times. I had detoxed, so what would it hurt? People (normal, non addicts) have a glass of wine or a drink at the end of the day, so what's the difference in booze or a pill? One every once in a while would be fine. Not. Your brother's head is pushing him to do and say things he wouldn't otherwise. Just knowing that meds are in the house somewhere is probably driving him nuts right now. If you haven't already, I'd suggest you hide them. You are doing your best; now you need to help him do his best. This is a big temptation, something he has to work through.

[wildflower58]

kyle , i do have them put up , i just wished i knew what trigerd this spell after 10 days . i put him first trying to get his health back to where it needs to be , but at this point i have tried to just stay out of his path , he has been in his bedroom all eve its like we are going threw days 1-5 again . my heart hurts for him cauess i never wanted to cauess him pain  i love him to much . all i can do is pray , pray , and have faith he will come threw this with out a relaps after seeing what he has allready gone threw i wouldn't want to go threw that again but again i'm not in his shoes right now .thank you for listing to me i'll keep everyone updated ,