ecstacy and aderol(adderall)

[cpkiller]

I stumbled across this forum cause i was interested in the effects of ecstacy and also aderol (adderall).
About two weeks ago i took 80 mg of aderol (adderall) (i dont have a prescription) and the first day i felt very relaxed and confortable, like i had the time i took only 20 mg. but the next day i was hallucinating really bad (smoke coming out of the walls, my socks on the floor were dancing, people talking to me that were not there)i also could not sleep for 2 days i was wondering if this is a normal reaction to abusing aderol (adderall) if its not prescribed to you, is aderol (adderall) a psycotic? i know its supposed to be a anti-anxiety pill. ALso on the subject of ecstacy, what are the short and long term effects of ex if taken a couple taimes a month, 2-4 doses each time. Thanks

[Seamstress]

I feel so old!!!  Drugs I've never tried.  I can't believe it. Isn't ectasy an amphetamine or it works like an amphetamine or something. I looked up adderall (adderrall) on rxlist.com and it is an amphetamine. It says it has a high potential for abuse.  We used to say speed kills...speed is what we called amphetamines. I never liked them all that much, although I did do black beauties for a week once. I was basically psychotic toward the end and my hair fell out in clumps.  I don't think I ate the entire time. I stayed away from them after that.

Well, this doesn't help you a bit does it?

[cpkiller]

lol no but thanks for the input ill never try those

[bronzeback75]

Well my girlfriends brother experimented with alot of x after about a year of use you will start to fall into a deep depression
the active ingriedent in x makes you produce high levels of dopamine so come of x people have super low seretonin levels and fall into deep depression watch out for it my girlfriends brother
and 6 of his friend are now seeing pyhciatrist for there derpression did you not see the special on mtv where they gave thaat girl a brain scan after only a year of moderate use she had big dark patches all over her brain dont play with it its fire I know its the new club drug but its not worth it beleive me ive seen the outcome all around me Im 26 and its been big for about 4 years now and people are starting to get burnt out bad
hope i could help

[Unwise]

Never tired aderol (adderall) (sp?), but had plenty of experience with X, especially in those heady days when it was still legal and you could buy it at the bar at any number of nightclubs.  At first there were all the horror stories churned out by the media and the government that reminded me of the hysteria that accompanied the rise of LSD in the 60's...you know, take it once and you'll lose your mind...so I had my doubts that it was all that bad.  My own experience with ecstasy never led to an addiction or even abuse.  I treated it as I treated all psychedelics, that is, you really don't want to go to Disneyland every day.  On the other hand, I knew some people who took it regularly and some developed neurological problems (twitches, tremors, memory loss) and others seem to have suffered some rather nasty brain damage from taking it like tylenol.  Ecstasy is MDMA, not unlike the "love drug" MDA that was popular in the late 60's and 70's.  That "A" at the end stands for amphetamine, so there is a speed component to the chemical make-up of X.  Although it is a less powerful hallucinogen than LSD, it still is capable of scrambling your brains.  And research indicates that the touchy-feely, empathetic high of X can lead to psychological dependence.  In short, what you're taking probably won't kill you, but then again, why take it at all?  This is not a drug that is manufactured in pristine conditions by some pharmaceutical company.  You never know what you are getting in each dose, and that alone is a risk worth considering enough to make you stop.  Aside from that, you can find plenty of anecdotal references on the web as to the damage that can result from long-term use of the drug.  Speaking as an addict who was lucky to not get hooked on X, I would simply advise that you stay away from it altogether for the obvious health reasons, as well as the fact that it can easily become a gateway to harder drugs.  It's not worth it, believe me.  If you're not hooked on anything now, consider yourself blessed and move on with your life.  Just read a few of the threads in this forum and you'll see quite clearly that you aren't missing out on anything by being an addict.  It sucks, it ruins your life and the lives of those around you, and it consumes you in every conceivable way.  Most of us here have learned too late and the hard way that there is so much more to life than the temporary bliss that drugs provide, and this forum not only serves as a testament to that fact, but also as a big fat warning sign with the words clearly marked:  "KEEP OUT!" (Of course, I mean "Keep Out" of using drugs, not this forum).

I hope you are only dabbling with drugs and not hooked yet, and that this post does not come off as some kind of preachy sermon from yet another old man who's been there and done that.  I mean what I say with all sincerity, and we are all here to help you either avoid becoming one of us, or to support you if you do find you have a drug problem.  So endeth the epistle.  Over and out.

[J.B. to Brian and Vicky]

Welcome to the forum!  I believe Adderal is basically an amphetamine.  In adults, I can hardly see why it would be used as an anti-anxiety drug as you stated.  It is very habit forming with a high potential for abuse.  My knowledge comes from some crack addicts I've known who use it when crack is not available.  I don't know what the recommended dosage is but 80 mgs might be a bit high.  

Try rxlist.com for information on drugs when in doubt.

J.B.

[1fortheroad]

it doesn't seem that adderal would make you feel relaxed seeing as it is an amphetamine like ritalin...it would rev you up normally.  i would certainly stay away from it if it isn't something you need - it is very addicting.  as far as x goes, the seratonin receptors in your brain actually drop off from using it - never to come back.  people who use it end up with major depression that is extremely hard to treat because of the damage it does.  i heard this a couple days ago straight from an addiction dr./shrink.  i suffer from depression, and he was very glad to hear that x isn't one of the drugs i have been abusing....very hard to recover from.  i hope you can find the strength to stay away from all this stuff - believe me, you do not want to switch shoes with any type of addict.

[Nod]

Greetings, sorry to hi-jack this thread..

Schlub, just checking in with you so how your doing.
I'm still on the tapper down "death by a thousand cuts." Down to
5 a day from 15-20.  Have another 3 weeks left in my planned schedule.  But going to doc this week to talk about Burp, naltrexone, etc.  Get a plan going with him.  Like you I know I'm going to make it this time.  Actually starting to feel better now even though still on 5 a day.

Take care, and keep up the good work.  Nod

[Schlub]

Wow, man, that's no small feat to taper from 20 to 5 per day! Have you experienced withdrawal symptoms during your taper?

Anyway, this will make it easier for you when you do detox.

Today's Saturday. I quit the Bup tomorrow. Monday it'll be crunch time and I'll be in some serious pain and despair by Tuesday. Still, I don't care anymore how bad it gets; I know I'm going to make it. Nonetheless, keep an eye out for me, okay? I may need a bit of encouragement.

[Unwise]

Yo, Schlub...good luck with stopping the bup...you know we're all here for you, so keep us tuned in and close at hand.  You are going to do it this time, and whatever we can do to help you, well, you know where to find us....

[Nod]

You'll make, cause your determined and you have your family and everyone on your side.  There's no more secrets now!

RE Withdrawal during Tapper: I just start to feel uncomfortable and then take 1/2 - 1 pill.  That takes the edge off for about
1-3 hours.  Then do it again....  I avoid the hell week but just spread it out over 6-7 weeks. Not sure which one is better. This tapper feels like a sloooo death sometimes.  Just want to get it over with!  By next weekend I'll be down to only 3 7.5's/day. Come a long way, aint going back this time.

Schlub, it's gonna be a tough week for you, but I don't think nearly as tough as you think its gonna be.  See, you've already made up your mind, your gonna win.  

Nod (soon not to be Nod-ing)

[medicatedadultADHD]

Hi all,
I have been prescribed to adderall (adderrall) for 8years on and off I soppose but mostly on. I became addicted and went to rehab for it. I still after that have taken it frequantly but every 2 months I will stop for three to four months...why I do not know. Well, my experience with withdrawel is trails..definitely...confusion/disorientation/severe fatigue(for 1-3 days)...binge eating...major short attention span...then after three months the side affects were occasional short moments of depression, fear of loneliness but easily dealt with, and sometimes moments of low self esteam and little motivation, aswell as cravings and feelings of gaining weight and overeating, and trying to be more creative in moments of boredom, aswell as extreme messiness and chronique fatigue.

Don't take it no matter how positive the effect are in the short term because in the long term if you begin to abuse it their are major side effects. I am fine and wealthy and successful but this has been a major mental block in my life that has slowly gotten better but not completely. I syggest not taking it even if prescribed if you have abused it in the past. And yes it does give you hallucination while on it and after for a day or two or maybe if you do it for long enough on occasion for the rest of your life.  stay away from it and excstacy. I studied neurobiology and psychology and exctstacy can ruin your happiness for years to come with or without prozac to recover the damage. be careful and know what you take before you take it to avoid negative consequances to one night of fun. One night won't harm you but continous nights will and who knows one night may be for all you know the end all. Since you realize the damage it has done it obviously will not be. I wish you luck and give you wisdom for your future to come. Be safe and be smart before you choose to do something that might make or break your life.

peace

[BabyDoll88]

Wow, 80mg's at one time is a lot of Adderall (adderrall). No wonder you had hallucinations. I often take more Adderall (adderrall) (it is prescribed to me) than I need and it's becoming a problem in my life. Trust me-it is addicting. And the highest dose in one pill of Adderall (adderrall) is 20mg's I believe. So you must have taken four pills at one time. I get prescribed 30mg's a day (I have the Adderall (adderrall) XR pill) and when I take my friend's regular Adderall (adderrall) (20mg pill) I feel really hyper. Taking two 20mg pills made me feel like I was going insane-heart pounding, thoughts racing, etc. Adderall (adderrall) is an amphetamine (just like a small dose of speed in a little capsule) and stimulates the chemical dopamine in the brain. Too much dopamine can result in psychosis-in fact, I've read that people with schizophrenia have shown to have too much dopamine in their brains-resulting in this mental illness. So be careful with this highly addicting drug. It's powerful and the effects it may have on one person may not be the same for another.

[pippi]

Adderrall is simply amphetimine & dextroamphetimine, & is used to treat ADD, & certain forms of narcalepsy(fall asleep uncontrollibly). I have ADD,& my neurologist has me on 80mg a day.  I have NEVER-EVER had hallucinations from adderrall.  As far as the insomnia goes, it's a listed side effect, but when properly,& consistantly taken the side effects go away within the first month.  I now sleep like a baby every night, quit all drugs and drinking.  The hallucinations could happen w/"X" I used to see everything with a strobe-disco effect when I did "X", but not even on good acid did my socks ever talk.  Maybe from the lack of sleep you had a delerious delusion.

[antzy83]

can someome give me some information= my best friend abused ecstacy for years.  Now he has stopped, but I found out he takes aderol (adderall).  is it like ecstasy?  and is it strong  enough to stop his urges for ecstasy?

thanks

[antzy83]

can someome give me some information= my best friend abused ecstacy for years.  Now he has stopped, but I found out he takes aderol (adderall).  is it like ecstasy?  and is it strong  enough to stop his urges for ecstasy?

thanks

[antzy83]

I need someome give me some information= my best friend abused ecstacy for years.  Now he has stopped, but I found out he takes aderol (adderall).  is it like ecstasy  and is it strong  enough to stop his urges for ecstasy

thanks

[antzy83]

give me information please on ectasy and aderol (adderall). how are they related

[angst]

Adderall is like speed.  It will keep him with lots of energy.
His moods may be labile, changing frequently.  Who is prescribing
this and why?  Just keep yourself safe.  It sounds like you stick by him.  Watch for changes in moods and self-image. Know when to let go, if you have to.  I cannot tell you why he was prescribed this medication.   Good luck and Blessings, Ava

[adderroll]

I know a lot about Adderroll.  It is the strongest stimulant (amphetamine) prescribed for Attention Deficiet Disorder.  I take what is considered an extremely high dosage. 90mg/day. I'm not sure how the shrink diagnosed me w/A.D.D., but for 4 years I've been taking Adderroll and think it is a wonderful drug.  Highly, highly addicting.  I get offers to sell my pills 30/mg each, for $25. A normal person would be balls to the wall for 24 hours off of 90mg.  With A.D.D. the stimulant doesn't "stimulate" as much as it does help focus and concentration.  I've experimented with exctasy and see very little in common.  Adderroll feels clean in the body, and the come-down is easy..unlike X.

[mego]

alright, i'm 15, i've been taking aderol (adderall) a lot lately.  the first time i took it was about a month ago, and now it seems like i'm on it more than i'm off it, i'm on it now.  i haven't slept the past 2 nights from it, i doubt i'll sleep from it tonight.  i really like it a lot, but the guy i get it from might stop giving it to me because a lot of people are giving him ****, sayin i take it too much and all that.  i was wondering if there are any "Warning signs" or anything that mean i have or could have a problem with it, or if its okay to mix it with diet pills.  thanks.

[marie5]

I've taken aderol (adderall) many times, and am not perscribed to it.  The most ive taken in one sitting is 120 mg, but usually its not this much, its around 90mg.  i get the pills from frieds of mine who have ADD or ADHD, usually for free.  The aderol (adderall) gives you a heart racing feeling, and you feel like you could go on forever.  I only noticed this when i kept active.  After taking aderol (adderall) and just sitting around, it tends to make my friends and i think and over think jsut about about everythign, it also makes us very emotional about little things.  If kept active, i dont sleep at all that night or the next day, but am over-tired by the time i sleep the next night, i also lose my appetite.  If were just sitting around, it tends to make me feel almost hungover and fatigued for about it day.  I know friends who snort the aderol (adderall), and say its amazing, but ive always taken it orally, like a pill.

[swmr]

I am 17 years old and have been taking aderol (adderall) off and on for several years.  I have a prescription for it, and until i read this forum did not believe that i abused it.  I just recently got my prescription renewed because i have been falling behind in school and aderol (adderall) has always been helpful in getting my work done.  I've actually taken three of the 30 mg pills periodically through today because i have an english essay that I have to prepare for.  Aderol (adderall) is so useful because i can take it, then work zombie-like for great lengths of time with no breaks and great efficiency. It also allows me to stay up working long past the time that i could if i wasn't on it.  I've taken aderol (adderall) and worked up to eight hours straight before, never taking a break and never losing focus.  The side effects have become more and more noticeable.  I don't become hungry, and I haven't eaten anything since I woke up this morning, except for a small square chocolate chip cookie.  I have outbursts of rage, and the other day i found myself screaming and violent(i'm not a violent person at all) after a small and insignificant argument with my parents.  I become antisocial, and feel as though i would rather sit by myself than talk with my friends.  I can't ever seem to get high anymore (i'm an avid pot smoker), and when i drink i get drunk incredibly too easily.  It has however, helped me quit smoking cigarettes, which i've been addicted to since eigth grade.  I'm less impulsive when on aderol (adderall) and therefore less tempted by cravings.  It also has had sexual side effects on me.  This came as the biggest shock to me, because i literally could not get it up.  All of these negative side effects affect me on a daily basis.  I have never hallucinated from aderol (adderall), and I too have popped up to 5 20mg regular dose pills at once, and i was able to sleep that night.  And i was 14 at the time and weighed no more than 135 lbs!  I do not enjoy aderol (adderall) at all, and cannot see why anyone would want to abuse it for recreational purposes.  If i do not have work to do or don't have school then i don't take it.  I see aderol (adderall) as a way for me to focus the abilities that i have in my mind, and the side effects are simply a sacrifice which i must make in order for me to be successful.  I guess you could say that i abuse it, and i was unaware until i by chance read this forum that aderol (adderall) is addictive.  I see how it can be mentally addictive, as i myself feel that i need it to get my work done.  I don't however, see how the body could become dependant on such a horrible and depressing feeling.  Why not just smoke bud?

[cheermom]

i'm a little confused by your post because in the beginning you sounded as if you realized you may have a problem with adderal when you read the posts but then you kind of went on about only using it when necessary to get your work done and not understanding how someone could get addicted to it.  i know from experience that adderal is a very addictive drug when taken without a prescription and in higher doses than recommended for a patient who actually has a valid condition that requires this med.  i assume that you have been diagnosed with add/adhd since you have a script for it.  i do know a lot about this drug since my son has adhd and was once taking it.  i did a LOT of research on the effects of adderal on a person with add/adhd and as you said it can be very useful when taken for this and taken as directed.  however, for someone like me who took it because i felt i needed the "boost" and took it for a long period of time and well over the dosages believe me i can and is very addicting.  i lost well over 35 pounds in one month and was so tired on the rare days that i didnt have it that i could barely get out of bed.  you are young and i hope that you realize the dangers of taking this med in higher dosages than prescribed before it is too late.  i would hate to see you cause damage to your heart and respiratory system at such a young age.  you might want to read up on this before you continue the path you are on.  i dont mean to sound "preachy" but of all the pills i ever took adderal was the hardest to "detox" from.  please, please talk to your doctor or your parents or someone who might be able to help regulate your med schedule if you are add/adhd.  drugs can seem very useful when you are young but it is not something to fool around with especially since you say you have had violent outbursts.  i check this site twice a day if you ever want to talk or need any other info.  believe me i have a book full of it and will help any way i can.

[trout]

I took speed for years.  I had to stop because it caused me to have an induced psychosis; anything coincidental became a major conspiracy involving everyone from my friends and family to the government.  I was a complete nut.  I do remember liking the euphoria and wonder if Aderol (adderall) (don't know how to spell)would be ok to take prescribed and who do I need to see to get it prescribed?

[falling]

Adderall-

I take this off an on because I have ADHD.  

Don't quote me as I'm not a dr, but I read up a lot on it before I started taking it.

The reasons the ritalin, dexadrine and Adderall (adderrall) work on a person with ADD/ADHD I believe is because it stimulates the frontal lobal parts of your brain so that you can focus more etc. PPl with ADD/ADHD have brains that were not wired correctly lol, and the receptors up there in the front or whatever need to be stimulated.

My doctor explained it to me like this, because I have ADHD without the drug it's like I'm flying on a plane going 200 mph, on the drug I am down on the ground going the normal 55 mph.
I don't jump off the walls or anything, I just have a million thoughts racing thru my brain, I often change the subject of what I am talking about mid sentence, and interrupt ppl a lot.

I have a friend who would take his wifes Adderall (adderrall) just to get cranked up, but for me, it just brought me to a normal level.

If you really want info on it go to an ADD/ADHD forum as you will hear all kinds of things about it good and bad.  Personally I have had to experiment with my dose as 10 mg in the am is okay but if I take more I get jittery and like shaky.  Also if I take it after 5 or 6 pm I never sleep at nite.

I am one of the lucky ones not to have gotten addicted to it, I can go off it any time, I do feel a bit irritable but nothing major.

My pharmacist said that the reason it works so well for me is because I really do have ADHD and the drug is working like it was intended.  When you don't have or are misdiagnosed with ADD/ADHD
(which is common) it acts like speed.

I had to first go on Ritalin, then Dexadrine (sp) (which made me aggressive) then the Adderral.  I do know I read something about it affecting both sides of the brain which I guess makes it a "smoother" drug whatever that means.

But basically it just is a stimulant flat out. I could not even imagine 90 mg a day!  But I know my friend said he had to take a lot to get the high.

There is just so much debate about these drugs just in the treatment of ADD/ADHD, I cannot imagine for what other reason they would be prescribed for except narcolepsy. Which btw, I went to a sleep clinic as I had to rule out any sleep disorders that may be causing symptoms of ADD.  And.. there is a drug out there (can't remember the name) that ppl with narcolepsy can take that is not a stimulant and non addicting but that keeps them awake.

Anyway, no expert here, just my experience... If you are addicted I wish you the best in getting off it.

Oh and once when I went to refill my script my normal pharmacist was not on duty and OMG, these two pharmacists treated me like a freaking addict, one said, this is a class (whatever) drug and equvilant to cocaine. It pissed me off them passing judgement as a freaking script for a month can last me for several.... oh well...

[orerx]

i just starting snorting about 5-10 mg,i have no heart problems im 55/i take pills for dep/sleep/do you feel using it for 3rd time its dangerous?
i dont crave it.

[Delores69]

I'm going to experiment with it tonight. I'll let you know my findings soon.

[lboogie7729]

Snorting any drug is obviously a sign that there is a problem.
Ecstasy is not something to screw around with. I live in the midwest and it was popular here 10-15 years ago. I knew a girl who used it frequently, ended up with neurological damage similar to Parkinson's, was basically bed bound from the damage of the drugs she did and committed suicide before she turned 30. The other people I know who messed with it are not too bright these days and some of them suffer from pretty severe depression. Doesn't sound like something to take chances with and neither does adderall (adderrall) judging from all of the horror stories I've read on this site alone.