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help stopping roxies
Hi I need some help I'm trying to get off Roxie's I am doing 90 to 120 MG's a day for the past year and a half I don't want to take sub's or go on methadone I guess cold turkey any suggestions I tryed the Thomas thing and it didn't work I'm just really scared and unsure of the best way to stop please help with any cold turkey plan thank you so much :-)
Just checking in I'm doing OK just not feeling up to doing anything can't wait tell this is over I feel like hell n I keep saying this will be over soon I thought I'd be a little better by now but I guess not tomorrow is another day I went to one meeting I don't feel good enough yet but gonna make myself go tomorrow thanks for caring hope others are doing well
How are you doing, holly? I used oxy too...and the w/d's were awful. I had diarrhea starting on day 4 and it was pretty terrible.
In just a few more days, you will feel a LOT better. What's going on at home? Is your BF supporting you through this?
Make sure you replace your electrolytes and drink Gatorade.
The drug you mentioned is Lyrica. Very, very similar in chemical composition to Neurontin, which is now in generic and called "Gabapentin." It is NOT a cure-all, and imo, does very little to mitigate the withdrawals.
MS Delight is correct in that the misconception out there that Immodium is a cure for w/d's is total BS. Yes, loperamide (immodium) is an opiod, but it doesn't cross the BBB (Blood-Brain-Barrier) and all it can do is put your bowels to sleep; much like the oxy did.
I took it, but not as much as the package directions indicated. I would take ONE...and it did help slow down the diarrhea.
Hang in there, girl...you're doing fantastic,. Can you get to a meeting?
Hugs,
-Robin
In just a few more days, you will feel a LOT better. What's going on at home? Is your BF supporting you through this?
Make sure you replace your electrolytes and drink Gatorade.
The drug you mentioned is Lyrica. Very, very similar in chemical composition to Neurontin, which is now in generic and called "Gabapentin." It is NOT a cure-all, and imo, does very little to mitigate the withdrawals.
MS Delight is correct in that the misconception out there that Immodium is a cure for w/d's is total BS. Yes, loperamide (immodium) is an opiod, but it doesn't cross the BBB (Blood-Brain-Barrier) and all it can do is put your bowels to sleep; much like the oxy did.
I took it, but not as much as the package directions indicated. I would take ONE...and it did help slow down the diarrhea.
Hang in there, girl...you're doing fantastic,. Can you get to a meeting?
Hugs,
-Robin
I just posted advice on how to get off these little blue pills from hell. Yesterday was my first day doing a fast taper. I cut by 60mgs and today I was gonna cut another 30. After reading all these posts I'm seriously considering crumbling up my taper plan and diving head first into cold turkey. It's so inspiring seeing how so many people just woke up and quit a huge addiction one. I'll be here all week posting. Good luck to everyone in the struggle.
Keep hanging on!!! 3 days is awesome!!!! I started to feel better after day 4 and every day got a little better after that! We are all routing for you!!! Keep posting cause it really does help to get the encouragement!!!! :)
Girl I wish I had some new ideas. They say baths with Epson salt help. I only have a shower so I wouldn't know. Lol. I have seen other things on here like lemon balm in tea and all kinds of vitamins. Someone told me to rub eucalyptus oil or Vicks vapor rub on legs and then put socks on to help with rls. And to also keep your legs elevated. I'm right here in the trenches with you! Your not alone! I feel like I literally want to come out of my skin, I cannot for anything get comfortable and I definitely cannot sleep! We are right on course and it's no party;) But it WILL pass.. Thank God!!
Hey Holly :)
A Huge Congrats on Day 3!
No, you're not crazy. Not wanting to be touched during the 'acutes' is pretty much par for the course. Sweating, sneezing, bathroom issues & crawling skin, right? You're in the thick of it right now but don't worry, this will start to ease & most of us find that touching is very much okay after that point.
The nurse you spoke w/ is right! Lyrica is addictive (it's for nerve pain) & is by all reports, hell to kick. Just give the process & your body a chance to heal.
I just got in & wanted to see how you were faring. You're doing wonderfully!
Hold Fast!
We're Here :)
A Huge Congrats on Day 3!
No, you're not crazy. Not wanting to be touched during the 'acutes' is pretty much par for the course. Sweating, sneezing, bathroom issues & crawling skin, right? You're in the thick of it right now but don't worry, this will start to ease & most of us find that touching is very much okay after that point.
The nurse you spoke w/ is right! Lyrica is addictive (it's for nerve pain) & is by all reports, hell to kick. Just give the process & your body a chance to heal.
I just got in & wanted to see how you were faring. You're doing wonderfully!
Hold Fast!
We're Here :)
Holly- ( love that name, that's my adorable puppy's name.) Firstly, WOW, you flushed em...amazing. I never could do that. Your nurse friend is right, there isn't any magic pill that will help, just gotta go thru it. The stuff the nurse said is right on. Also, the toilet being your bf and zero energy is totally normal. I remember thinking that no matter how I feel, time passes, so all I need to do is...let it pass. And this will pass. It's true that the detox is a blip compared to the work of staying clean.
And YAY for you going to a meeting. I remember once at a mtg a guy had 5 days clean from a massive heroin habit, he keep using the bathroom to throw up. But he was there, I was amazed. You won't be that bad, don't worry. But, you can go in any condition, of course and everyone understands.
Keep posting...great job!
And YAY for you going to a meeting. I remember once at a mtg a guy had 5 days clean from a massive heroin habit, he keep using the bathroom to throw up. But he was there, I was amazed. You won't be that bad, don't worry. But, you can go in any condition, of course and everyone understands.
Keep posting...great job!
OK its day 3 the toilet is my new best friend ibuprofen gave up on me immodium seems to like me for now lol all I can do is joke about this horrible situation or ill lose my mind!I can barely make it to the bathroom and I have a question I can't stand to be touched even a kiss on the cheek feels horrible not pain just I can't explain it but its just bad what the heck am I going crazy or is that normal didnt happen last time I stopped mentally I'm doing good not wanting to give up it makes me even sicker to think about what opiates have done to me so I'm not giving in also someone told me lerica would help wds but I never heard of them for that n not familiar with it I talked to a nurse and she said not to take anything bit vitamins and oc pain relievers n nyquil would be OK n help symptoms if anyone has any other ideas please let me know I feel like I've been hit by a semi and I can't get comfy
So proud if you girl! Oh if I could have all the $ I have spent on drugs and alcohol. Seriously makes me sick to even think about it! Stealing from Peter to pay Paul.. Ugh.. Story of my life! I hope to one day help others in our situation. We will get through this! Because I took that suboxone and it has an insane half life I'm waiting for what is to come. What su@@ks is I know all too well what is coming. Stay in touch! My prayers are going up for you!!
Thanks for the encouragement and yes all numbers on my cell are gone even tho my cell is off cause I couldt afford t pay my bill cause of this addiction I'm done having nothing cause of this I'm over it I'm done with it I really know I'm never turning back that relationship with drugs n alcohol is my past I'm looking forward to my future even tho I feel like I've been hit by a truck lol thanks for being here for me n I hope I can one day help others like us :-)
Morning Holly :)
Congrats to you on 36 hrs. (Yay you, you're doing it! I know you might not have the energy right now but give yourself a pat on the back :)
Yup, for many people here, their fear of what w/d's would be like far surpasses what it's actually like. You CAN get through this. Yeah, like you said, it s*cks -- it's no day at the beach but it's necessary in order to get to the other side! What you're doing is the bravest & most worthwhile thing you possibly can for yourself so hang in there. :)
That's great that you got a little sleep. Catch those zz's whenever you can!
I want to applaud you for flushing those pills!! AWESOME job! You're showing your commitment to yourself & your detox right there. Have you blocked all access to getting more? (That's a necessary step)
Taking this 'hour by hour' is just the way to go (even moment by moment -- second by second -- that's all you have to get through, right). Be gentle with yourself & keep us posted.
We're here :)
Congrats to you on 36 hrs. (Yay you, you're doing it! I know you might not have the energy right now but give yourself a pat on the back :)
Yup, for many people here, their fear of what w/d's would be like far surpasses what it's actually like. You CAN get through this. Yeah, like you said, it s*cks -- it's no day at the beach but it's necessary in order to get to the other side! What you're doing is the bravest & most worthwhile thing you possibly can for yourself so hang in there. :)
That's great that you got a little sleep. Catch those zz's whenever you can!
I want to applaud you for flushing those pills!! AWESOME job! You're showing your commitment to yourself & your detox right there. Have you blocked all access to getting more? (That's a necessary step)
Taking this 'hour by hour' is just the way to go (even moment by moment -- second by second -- that's all you have to get through, right). Be gentle with yourself & keep us posted.
We're here :)
Well I am now at 36 hours clean n it ***** its like I have no energy and I feel that flu feeling but not as bad as I was dreading I know it will be worse but I know this is what I gotta do if I wouldn't have flushed them I would've already screwed up I also have no appetite n my stomach hurts I have been taking vitamins for a few weeks hopefully that will help the wds also sleep sucked but I did get a few hours I think its me being over nervous too I'm taking this hour by hour and if I feel good enough going to na in the morning
I am soo proud of you!! I had around 6mg of suboxone left that I just flushed a little while ago! I know withdrawal all too well;( I had a 12mg sub. I took 1mg mon-wed, 1.5mg Thursday and .5 yesterday and today. I just decided that I needed to start this now. No more!! My friend just got his 30s filled and wanted me to party but I didn't answer the phone and just blocked his number. After reading a lot of posts it looks like I have to get into aftercare. I've never been to a meeting. I've never given it a chance. I have always relapsed. I'm so over it. I want me back!
Flushed them all n starting detox I'm gonna do this I hope you can as well I have before so I know wds well I'm ready this is it I'm done n you know what it didn't bother me at all to flush them it actually felt great I'm getting me back we can do this :-)
Hey girl! I asked you that because I lost count of the times that I got X amount of pills and said "this is it, I'm going to do this!" Maybe you are stronger than me but I failed(epic failed..lol) everythime. It would be nice to have someone to get through this together with. If I may ask.. How many of the 30 have you taken since you got them? I am new and just discovered that we aren't allowed to give taper advice.. But I can ask you how many of those little blue devils have you done since you got them:) I'm not quit sure how to private message yet but if you would rather answer there I could maybe get a since of where you are;)
Good question I'm not sure if I can taper or not just being honest I'm gonna try like hell I'm so serious about getting my life back hope all goes well for you too we all know this is so very hard to do but everyone here seems so supportive with them I think we can do this I will be there for you to we can do this together :-)
I just saw that you have 30 30s. I'm asking you this question because I have tried to "taper" a million times off those little blue devils;) are you strong enough to do a taper with them in your hands? I just signed up to this site last night and because we share the same DOC I was drawn to this conversation....
OK I'm starting a taper need help I have 30 30s when those are done I'm done any suggestions thanks
No I don't have health insurance n I refuse to go on meth clinic my friends daughter has been at her clinic for 6 years what's the point its just a legal way to get high n then eventually she will have to go threw wds any way I'm not judging any ones choice its just not for me I would love be clean for the holidays I'm getting in contact with my local na today to start my road to the new me or should I say the old me thanks for the support
Hey there Holly & Welcome! :)
We're so glad you're here :)
Congrats on your decision to get clean! As my friends above have said: You CAN do this. I promise you, when you look back, the acute w/d's will seem like the blink of an eye & you'll be so glad that you hung in there! I'm happy to hear that you want off w/o recourse to Subs or 'done. So, many go from the frying pan & into the fire needlessly. (The system that encourages this doesn't help either!).
And yah,..'just snorting' H is not the direction you want to go in. (Take it from me :))
The most successful detoxes are built around a solid plan & the understanding of what it means to be an addict & what that will mean for you going forward:
1) Get some time off from work if @ all possible. (The more the better).
2) Cut your sources to your DOC, the folks you used w/ & the places that trigger you.
3) Stock up on healthy foods, Imodium, vitamins, etc.
4) Do some serious soul searching on why your other attempt(s) failed. What is it that held you back from pushing through? How can you adjust your game plan this time to give yourself a better chance? What are your triggers & how can you better face them down?
5) Start telling yourself in every moment that you want this more than anything else in your life & that nothing will change until you change it.
6) Start telling yourself in every moment that you're much stronger than you know & that it's your fear & 'habit mind' holding you back. Know w/ real certainty that these voices lie! You lived without drugs once & can do it again.
7) Understand that after your acute detox, the real work begins. Meaning, staying clean. It's not really about the physical detox for us but about building a new set of skills to live with what life throws our way without 'reacting' & reaching for something to mediate our chemistries during times of stress.
8) Tell your 'secret': come clean & seek the support of non-judgmental family & friends.
9) Some form or combined forms of aftercare to protect the shiny new you.
Try to think of this as a necessary but unpleasant initiation into a life of real possibility, self-respect & clarity that you so deserve! :)
Please, use this site for all it's worth. It's truly a miracle if you take it to heart & use it wisely. It has helped so many of us to get & stay clean. The 'Good & True' here will be honored to connect with & support you through your detox & beyond.
Please keep posting & let us know how you're doing & what you're thinking.
We're here & we're in your corner! :)
We're so glad you're here :)
Congrats on your decision to get clean! As my friends above have said: You CAN do this. I promise you, when you look back, the acute w/d's will seem like the blink of an eye & you'll be so glad that you hung in there! I'm happy to hear that you want off w/o recourse to Subs or 'done. So, many go from the frying pan & into the fire needlessly. (The system that encourages this doesn't help either!).
And yah,..'just snorting' H is not the direction you want to go in. (Take it from me :))
The most successful detoxes are built around a solid plan & the understanding of what it means to be an addict & what that will mean for you going forward:
1) Get some time off from work if @ all possible. (The more the better).
2) Cut your sources to your DOC, the folks you used w/ & the places that trigger you.
3) Stock up on healthy foods, Imodium, vitamins, etc.
4) Do some serious soul searching on why your other attempt(s) failed. What is it that held you back from pushing through? How can you adjust your game plan this time to give yourself a better chance? What are your triggers & how can you better face them down?
5) Start telling yourself in every moment that you want this more than anything else in your life & that nothing will change until you change it.
6) Start telling yourself in every moment that you're much stronger than you know & that it's your fear & 'habit mind' holding you back. Know w/ real certainty that these voices lie! You lived without drugs once & can do it again.
7) Understand that after your acute detox, the real work begins. Meaning, staying clean. It's not really about the physical detox for us but about building a new set of skills to live with what life throws our way without 'reacting' & reaching for something to mediate our chemistries during times of stress.
8) Tell your 'secret': come clean & seek the support of non-judgmental family & friends.
9) Some form or combined forms of aftercare to protect the shiny new you.
Try to think of this as a necessary but unpleasant initiation into a life of real possibility, self-respect & clarity that you so deserve! :)
Please, use this site for all it's worth. It's truly a miracle if you take it to heart & use it wisely. It has helped so many of us to get & stay clean. The 'Good & True' here will be honored to connect with & support you through your detox & beyond.
Please keep posting & let us know how you're doing & what you're thinking.
We're here & we're in your corner! :)
Hi Holly! I understand the fear of stopping! It took me about 6 months for me to talk to my Dr about tapering and being addicted once I ralized I really wanted to stop! I did taper from hydrocodone to codeine. The codeine made me sick but I still stayed on it cause I was so afraid of WDs! After 2 weeks of that I just dumped them down the toilet, got the rest of the week off from work and jumped in! I am on day 4 (in 4 hours it will be 4 days) and woke up today without a headache and feeling almost alive!!!! And it wasnt nearly as bad as I had it built up in my head to be...even though it still is crappy!!!! I just keep telling myself it will over in a few more days and then on to real life. You can do this!!! All of us are here to support you and help you through it!!!! Karen
Honey:
You can do this. It's going to be hard. You will feel HORRIBLE for a week, and then it will get much, much better. You won't die, but you do need to take care of yourself...if you're puking and having diarrhea, you need to drink (sip) Gatorade, you need to make sure you are someplace safe with someone checking in on you.
I strongly suggest you visit NA or AA. They will support you 100% even during the detox, if you feel well enough to go to a meeting.
You have internal pain, and that is still going to be there after you get off the drugs. How will you deal with it? You used in order to escape that pain...so you will absolutely need a plan for living after you get clean.
Pick a sobriety date and then just jump. The first 72 hours will be the worst, but after 4 days, you'll feel better. Looks like before, you quit just before you turned a corner..that is very common.
I applaud you for caring enough about your own life to want to reclaim it.
You can do this, holly. We're here for you.
PS. Do you have health insurance? Another avenue to consider would be an an in-patient rehab. Just something to consider....
Hugs,
-Robin
You can do this. It's going to be hard. You will feel HORRIBLE for a week, and then it will get much, much better. You won't die, but you do need to take care of yourself...if you're puking and having diarrhea, you need to drink (sip) Gatorade, you need to make sure you are someplace safe with someone checking in on you.
I strongly suggest you visit NA or AA. They will support you 100% even during the detox, if you feel well enough to go to a meeting.
You have internal pain, and that is still going to be there after you get off the drugs. How will you deal with it? You used in order to escape that pain...so you will absolutely need a plan for living after you get clean.
Pick a sobriety date and then just jump. The first 72 hours will be the worst, but after 4 days, you'll feel better. Looks like before, you quit just before you turned a corner..that is very common.
I applaud you for caring enough about your own life to want to reclaim it.
You can do this, holly. We're here for you.
PS. Do you have health insurance? Another avenue to consider would be an an in-patient rehab. Just something to consider....
Hugs,
-Robin
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