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Im going to try and not bye them anymore and I dont have very many left here. Im having trouble understanding WHY is it (this sounds dumb) that we or I cant beleive it is possible to not have any kind of buzz? Im not unhappy I dont think anyhow Im married with 3 boys and things are really not that bad. Mind you I blame my husband for my unhappiness all the time but it has to be the drugs and alcohal (alcohol). (when I think Im unhappy) I dont know I guess Im just confussed and dont like to think I can never have that feeling again.Please dont think Im feeling sorry for myself cause Im really not.I need to ask one thing though.
With codeine withdrawl can it cause you to get headaches alot?
Anyhow thankyou very much again!
Kari
3 kids here too. 35yrs. old and still kicking...yes, the codiene withdrawal will cause headaches, depression and many other physical aches and cramps and you will feel like you have a bad case of the flu for up to a few weeks. Do not kick yourself
our spouses do that enough...Just focus on getting better. i mean, would you be angry at yourself if you had cancer or a car wreck. NO. So, do not take it personally. This stuff is a trap and some fall into it and some do not.
lol sunny
He dos'nt understand the addiction at all really but he is good with me.
You should also hook up with a good shrink, one who has experience treating addiction. Don't do more than 8-10gm of tylenol daily..even that may be too much if you are drinking alot. Super tough on your liver. Be careful and get some help.
I will try to keep this as short as I can ok? I have stopped drinking for 9 days now.Drinking is not my only problem Im hooked on codeine. It started with tylonal 3's but now cause they are hard for me to get I take tylonal 1's cause I can bye them at any drug store.How convenient. NOT! When I think of it Ive been taking these dam things for over 3 years now.Sounds dumb but I dont enjoy my wine without taking 3 to start and 2 an hour later and so on until I go to bed. This has been going on every single day no matter how many times I say I wont do it. Anyhow like I said I have stopped drinking for 9 days buttrying to stop the tylonals but I get headaches sooo bad I cant stand it anymore. Im starting to think there is something else wrong with me. I cant live this way anymore I want to know what it is like to actually live without the high. I blame the world for my addictions but I guess its not doing to change even if I keep doing this I dont know Im confussed.
Anyhow thankyou for taking the time to read this.
I AM NOT REALLY SURE WHAT "PILLS" YOU ARE TAKING BUT THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO IS GET A COMPLETE PHYSICAL FROM A "GOOD" DOCTOR
(HOPEFULLY ONE THAT KNOWS ADDICTION OR HAS BEEN ADDICTED) THEY ARE LESS APT TO THROW PILLS AT YOU. I HAVE BEEN "CLEAN AND SOBER" BEFORE (NOT NOW...BUT ON THE WAY AGAIN) AND IT IS A WONDERFUL GREAT PLACE. NONE, OF THOSE SICK ASS THOUGHTS ETC...BUT THE TRUTH IS LIFE IS NO BED OF ROSES BUT WITH DRUGS/ALCOHOL IT IS A BRIAR PATCH!!! ALCOHOL DETOX WAS NOT TOO BAD. I 1-2 PINTS PER DAY 10 YEARS AGO (I WAS A FULL BLOWN DRUNK). THEN I HAD TO STOP. I WAS OUT OF THE GAME. 2-3 WEEKS PASSED AND I PUT BACK ON SOME WEIGHT, LOOKED GOOD AND FELT BETTER. HOWEVER, YEARS LATER I WAS RUN OVER BY A CAR AND THEN CAME THE PILLS. ANYHTING ALL THE TIME. THAT IS WHERE I AM TRING TO GET HOME FROM TODAY. BUT I TRIED TO KEEP IN MIND THE DOOPE THAT REALLY KILLS YOUR NOBODY. AND TYLENOL IS VERY VERY BAD IF TAKEN MORE THAN DIRECTED OR EPECIALLY WITH ALCOHOL.
Hang in there!!! That is very right. Tylonel with alcohol can SHUT the liver down. We never know when it is going to happen
(hours-years???) but eventually when a toxic level cannot be broken down by the liver it will shut down and become almost useless and it is very hard to get a transplant. In the meantime tell your doc. what is up. Maybe he can help??? There are other less risky things you can do until you get it sorted out and decide you are done. I know there is more to life than that warm buzz of pills and drink that last only a while then leave you chasing after it...a ghost. I am going into a rapid detox to "break" the chain. I do not drink at all and drug just to keep from seizing up and getting violently ill. Please do not let the things you take send you off to a fate like mine.
I tried the cutback and cold turkey ordeal with this ultram bs and almost fell out. I have come off all opiates except H and these ultrams are by far the worst hell I could emagine. It has too much interplay on the brains' chemistry. Not enough is known about it. But in a few weeks I am going to find out what it is like to have it washed off my opiate receptors and be detoxed...
I will pray for you. Reach out to someone you trust who can help. And lay down the boose if you can.
Sunny..good luck with the rapid detox....it will work and you'll be out.
Humility is an important part of recovery, it means to have the willingness to learn from others. JB could teach you alot. telby
Keep posting and disregard my hateful commentary!
J.B.
Don't kick yourself too hard, you've been under a tremendous amount of stress, and you really should be proud of yourself.
Just get yourself back on that track and try again, you just slipped, you are only human, it happens to all of us.
Focus on your 30 DAYS CLEAN and get back to what you wanted to accomplish!
(((HUGS)))
Lv Jenny
Don't be too hard on yourself. The world is a better place because you are in it.
My love to you and your wife.
WW
first of all HAPPY BIRTHDAY! i've always felt that adults get
screwed out of the big deal birthdays were when we were children.
i guess i kind of echo what everone else has said about your us-
ing. ya' know you've had an awful full plate of some real un-
pleasent and disturbing stuff lately. add in your intractable
pain and i'ld say you've done pretty damm good lately. i know
what it's like to have constant pain underscore everything else
that is going on in your life. there are days where i wish i'ld
never been exposed to dope. and then there are days where dope
is the only thing that keeps the gun out of my mouth. neither
one of us asked for any of this...but it is our respocebility
to find a way thru. i guess it's all about striking some sort of
balence. i think i'ld probably handle this pain/dope thing a lot
beter if i wasn't an addict, but of course i never considered
what i would do if i ever actually needed an opiate pain killer.
so we play out the hand that is dealt to us. JB, you are not do-
ing that bad of a job (far beter then me anyhow).
anyhow HAPPY BIRTHDAY! your wife is lucky to have you for a hus-
band!
so...keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
Yes, I had a slip that started night before last. My thinking and focus came crashing down and I let it. I did a BUTU..."building up to use" for maybe a week beforehand. I also didn't seek help to curb my desires. At this point, I really don't feel all that bad about myself. Just disappointment. I love myself unconditionally as I do my wife and children. Save for me and all who read this, nobody here knows that I have a problem with addiction. I don't know if I'm making any sense so I'll just shut up for now.
J.B.
vic
J.B.
Incidentally, I just wanted to tell you that our mindset is the same. Your posts have hit the spot with me. I want to tell you that I for one, am reading them. Sometimes it feels like what we say falls on deaf ears.
J.B.
both boards are valuable and have much to offer
anyway again- happy birthday to you and it was good seeing you- and you and your wife have my continued prayers and support
vic
Just wondering how you're doing today.
You have a good attitude, that is so important for your overall mental frame of mind.
I'm glad you stopped kicking yourself, you are one strong person!!!
Hope your wife is doing ok.
Lv Jenny
J.B.
You're a good husband and I'm glad you are feeling better! :)
I'm feeling a bit drained lately, just having a hard time keeping up with life. The kiddies are so demanding sometimes, especially my 23-month old. Just playing the chasing game with these darn pills, i hate withdrawals. I used to think i had it all figured out, but once i did, it would change, continue to grow (the monster!)
My hub and I are getting along, although this world of addiction is tricky, it's like trying to balance on a stack of bricks unevenly stacked that could fall down anytime!
Stay on the other side, it so much better (I remember!)
((HUGS)) for you and your wife!
Lv Jenny
J.B.
Also, Happy Birthday to your wifey!! :)
They do keep us in line a bit don't they. Thank god for my kids, I always try to keep one step over the line into reality at all times!!! :)
Talk to you soon, Enjoy!!!
Lv Jenny
I live in Australia, so I am a little confused! Is "codien" the same as "codine"? We have panadine forte which has 30mg of codine in each tablet - is this what you guys are writing about? If so, I looked up this site because I would like to know how much is too much? It probably sounds like a dumb question but I don't need them every day, although if I could get them I might, they are prescription drugs over here, the highest amount you can get over the counter is 12mg per tablet.
It feels weird to me that you all have the same kind of lives even though we are half a world away!!! Kids, husbands, jobs, money worries etc etc etc........!!! It actually makes me feel a little less lonely!! although, you are all probably asleep right now!! it it 7.30pm in Sydney, and it was a very hot day!! In fact, I am only guessing this is an American site!!
I have to say that I don't blame you all for your various addictions, it is very easy to fall into the pattern, especially when the drugs/alchohol etc kind of takes the worry away (for a while!) good luck to you all, I will keep checking this site to keep track of how you are going.
I feel ya brother. I'm 27 and have been dealing on and off with vikes, lorcets, and other drugs. but it is the laboratory made synthetics that are the worst. oxys, vicodin ya know. I have almost a week so I am feeling better. But I had a suggestion when you mentioned exercise. It will definitely help the detox. Also do you have access to a sauna or steam room? this will speed up the detox sweating out all that **** will get the withdrawal over with faster. I do martial arts and It really kicks my ass into gear. keep busy too. Do something everyday to keep your mind busy and not on the drugs. I know the struggle man, Alot if not all the people in this forum know the struggle. So, your not alone. Just remind yourself when you got a couple of weeks under your belt how bad and out of control those little devils cause you. My best is with you brother. Take care. I'll be around if ya needs to chat.
the ash
Meetings and group therapy is definitely an option, but there is always an alternative to something. Search around and find out what works best for ya man. we are all scared, and not sure how anything will turn out sometimes. Pot certainly helped me with nausea and sleeplessness. Let me know if you wanna talk or have any questions man. I'll do the best I can to help. There are also others here who have years of dealing with this and can help as well. Stay strong brother it will pass. Maybe write down how you feel each day. After ten or so days you might be surprised at what you have expresed. Take care. Talk to ya.
the ash
I dont think I could be addicted. I think I can stop tomorrow or maybe cut back then quit. I dont know. I use to have a lot of anxiety attacks when my husband started cheating on me. I was really hurt so my friend had a percacets, somas. It helped calm me and make me not hurt as much. Im a bit better and Im dumb enough to forgive him. But when I cant sleep or when i think to much..well you know. I take up to 8 pills a day. Is that already way too much? What are signs? Is percacets not as huge a deal? Just wondering. Been a bit worried with a few pains ive been experiancing and i think im ready to quit next week. But i was told its not safe to quit cold turkey yet I fee that i can. Why cant i just stop and focus on my workouts and my job. I feel so retarded even speaking of this beings i have not told a soul but my friend that gave me this of course. Im just afraid to hurt or hurt myself more. I dont know.
Thanks