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hour one is here

Well here goes nothing, I'm done with the oxy's and I'm scared. I took my last oxy 5hrs ago and going from so much to nada is scary. I have noone to talk to, noone that that understands. All my family sees is that this is just another "thing" with Mel. They have been down this road with me before and are reluctant to go down it with me again. They think I have chosen this, and in a way i suppose I have, but I def didn't choose to have this chronic pain. I did everything the doctors told me to do, tried every alternative presented to me and found on my own my doing research but I seem to be the small percentage of the pts that don't respond to treatment. I've been through the recovery before with cocaine and that's still a struggle to this day and I've been off coke for 7yrs. Will the cycle ever stop? What's gonna give this time around? Coke was a recreational, oxy's never were so how did this happen. Nevertheless, its time to start over again. I can't live in the past and why did I do this or why didn't I do that, I can only learn from the past and hope that it will make my future better. it has to, i have no other options.
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Is there a site to go to for family members who have a child addicted to Roxy's? I just found out that my 20-year-old daughter is smoking several a day and I need some quick advice as for what to do before this takes her life! I am so desperate for answers.
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HI ......right now it tuff but better days are a head it can be pritty defeating at 72hrs
just hang in there you will make it threw this....I often say this is 1/3 phyical and 2/3 mental you have to be ready to fight it out on both fronts this is truly a battle one or lost in ones own mind
if you can make threw the first 72hr you can finish your detox then the real work starts....staing clean it will require aftercare of one sort or another to deal with the mental mindscrew your going threw now but just know when it sone ond over with you wont be chained to a pill bottle any more....and living in recovery can be a beautiful place....so dont get discouraged 5min b/4 the mirical you can do this good luck and God bless......Gnarly  
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Its been over 72hrs now and I wish i could say I'm feeling great but my body is screaming, at least I can keep down some food and liquids> I do have to say everything tastes disguisting and I have to force myself to eat and drink. Pretty overwhelmed and exhausted I guess I should have prepared myself more. Psychologically i feel like I'm at a war with myself...every moment is a battle won but so much is left to defeat the war. I feel run down and washed out. The depression is pretty severe putting all kinds of terrible thoughts in my head. I hope all of you going through a detox right now are doing better than me, wouldn't it be wonderful to sleep? To laugh again? maybe someday
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Lingering,,ain't it. It's moving in geologic time, seems like glaciers form and melt while I'm waiting for this sickness to leave my body. So, I know you don't feel good right now. I so hope it's letting up a little bit anyway. It just kinda grinds away, and wears us down, but the only way out is the path your on. Once free of this Mel, It seems everything else will be much easier? It can't compare to this, so this is one of those building experiences, I can only hope. Hope you get some sleep and comfort, and keep pushing the nutrition and liquids.
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Hey there, I know the part about it's...tough...to.....type. I start day 4 here in 15 minutes. Thank God! You probably feel just a itty bit differant today, today isn't gonna be easy either, but if you notice the change that might help you know it will get better each day. I detest exercise but every single time I do it it makes me feel better. Just some to get the blood flowing and oxygen to the cells. It doesn't last very long the first few times, but you will notice it. Are you pushing the fluids? Is food or nutrition staying where it's suppose to now? One of the things that helps me endure this is it's so painful and ugly, I just don't want to do this again. One stupid pill [smarter than me] will get me right back where I was, 3 days ago, addicted and watching the clock till I can take another one. Can't do this again Mel. I took melatonin and a bailey's and coffee [decaf] before bed and actually got 2 or 3 hours of sleep which is a blessing. I look at sleep as free detox time. And of course we need it pretty badly. I'm glad your didn't try to go to work with this, and we truly empathize those with kids having to cowboy up, in this condition. Gotta know that takin the poison will not make this any better or easier, just the opposite, really, really. You have so many hours of agony behind you now, and maybe can feel it starting to lose it's grip on you, I do hope so. You already proved how strong you are, don't let up Mel. God bless you.
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Its a vicious cycle and you know that you have to stay strong or eventually you will have to start all over again. Your doing great!
I managed to go to work and the gym everyday (15-30 mins) during my detox...  I know it seems impossible but if you can get yourself outside the cool fresh air seems to revive the senses and helps relieve the WD's.
I didn't sleep for 15 days but somehow managed to get through it. You can do this! I'm 7 months clean and it's the best decision Ive ever made.
I'm praying for you.
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I have spent the last few hrs sobbing, lost, alone. Its so hard to see that line between doing what we need to do and what we want to do. That's where the addict in me steps in. I was talking to my sister about I started the pills to regain my life and ended up loosing even more. I can't just take one as prescribed, I have to take 2, then the next week 3 and so on. Its the voice in my head saying go ahead when I know deep down I shouldn't get seem to loose all control. Vicious.
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Thats where moving around in little increments comes in..Maybe do intermitent arm lifting and leg lifting..I know it sounds like a daunting task but it does help..A bath or shower,,showers in my case seem to wash some off that out of me but it was tough just getting there..It will improve in the next couple of days..Not in big gains though. It does take time to undo these affects..It really is almost unbelieveable what these meds can put a person thru..Even at low doses if taken long enough to breach the dependency line..Which,,is an unknown as it appears some are more vunerable than others as to where that line is....In some cases it appears it could be as low as a couple weeks or as high as a couple months with some...Either way, with this stuff any warning signs seem to be void until its too late. It already has taken a hold by the time we realize there's a problem..

I've fought a few battles in my life but this one? I've never experienced something dig in to one's mind and body, and soul like the oxy did..They are bad news all the way around....And the sad part is ,,I tell people I was a non believer that pain meds were a threat as I had done spells of a month here and there prior my surgeries with breaks inbetween and never noticed anything of major concern..But when the oxy got into the picture? It took full advantage of my ignorance...I've warned a number of people who are taking the meds and have been on them long enough to convince me they have past into the danger zone yet they continue..

I can only say and do so much...I guess they will have to experience that "I don't believe this" moment for themselve's to get the message..And of course by then it's too late...Sad..What a vicious cycle they create..Sometime I wonder if the benefits really do outweigh the risks..
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I'm trying to move but its feels like my body weighs a ton, it hurts to type this message, oh boy this is rough, rough. Thanks for all of the encouragement everyone, its really helping me through this. I'm not posting as much but still reading so I do appreciate all the posts...
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Mel-  I just had to go back to the beginning to see where you are time wise. It's not even 48 hours!!  It seems to me like it's been forever,too!!! I'm sorry I'm just laughing here...it does seem like time doesn't work!!  When you asked about the 72 hours,I'm thinking: Good! She made it!!      And it's not even two days!!  You poor thing...You're having a bad time here, you're not being a baby at all!    

Okay...take the Motrin around the clock. You know how it needs to reach blood levels to work well and it will.  Blood sugar is a huge deal. You need to eat more and you'll feel better.  Protein!!  And a milk shake!  You need calories because you're burning them up during this process. Cheese pizza!

And you need to move a teeny,tiny bit. Okay? Then take a bath and then go to bed and give yourself a break...it's going to be okay...
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Just wanted you to know I'm so happy that you and others here (QRSED, etc.!)  all made it through the night!  Me too!  I just wanted to say you all are in my thoughts and prayers!  Am really really hurting now too, so won't type long.  Just wanted to say I'm thinking of you!
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yep got 800 of motrin down, not doing to much for the pain but I'm giving it a shot. I've benn grinking gatorade and had some soup, so far its staying down. I'm sorry to evertone for my whining, I'll stop now
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It's normal. You won't go crazy. Get more food and liquids in. Honestly, it's really important.

72 hours is a "milestone", as you know!!   It's not an exact science.

Did you take some Motrin800?
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please tell me anyone at some point this is going to get better, I have heard you all say get to the 72hr mark and the worst will be over but my body is screaming!!!! i feel like I'm going crazy, please say this is normal??
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Me 1025, I just sent you a personal message, please read.
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Thank God, we made it thru the night!! You are now past the 1/2 way point in the really nasty part of this. So, it's either get free now or do this again as there just isn't any other choices. Everybody sooner or later comes to the place where it's either take more or stop. There is no reason in the world to go thru this again, the price is to dear for our souls to keep paying it. I'm taking the vitamins and it does seem to help [not to be confused with relief] but it helps the body heal, which it desperately needs. You will heal, but slower than we'd like. Giant Kudos Mel, It is already a little better with being able to take liquids and a little electrolytes, next maybe soup? Don't forget to have immodium nearby. Arn't sister's the greatest!!
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Every day you face without the pills is a victory. It may seem inconsequencial right now, but you are winning. Each minute is a battle, you just have to keep fighting through it. Keep hanging on and know that it does get better. That is of little solace right now, I know, but just keep doing what you are doing. Life without pills is within your grasp, stay strong. This pain will soon fade and life will be waiting for you with open arms. You've come so far, congratulations, keep it up!
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Hi Mel,

You sound better today; at least you are able to keep something down. Take things minute by minute if you have to, then hour by hour. Force yourself to eat and drink. Exercise will help more that just about anything, start that now, just walking if that is all you are able to handle, then progress from there.
You will be better soon………..hang on.
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I am so happy to hear you made it through the night.  That is awesome for you, I am so happy to hear from you because I had a sleepless night and you were in my thoughts.  You are doing this!  Take it minute by minute like you said and everything will gradually get better. Great Job, You can do this!!  Good luck and god bless!
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Hi, its Mel. Its been a long, terrible night. I am thankfully able to now keep down gatorade and broth with the help of phenergan (godsend) for me. I've been taking epson salt baths every few hours which has slightly decreased the terrible pain/cramps in my legs. My underlying pain continues to be an issue to which i don't know how to handle yet,but that's jumping ahead of myself at this point. Each second seems to be a small victory. My spirit feels crushed and although My sister has been by my side all night the emptiness, loneliness, despair I feel is unbearable. As a RN I knew the possible consequences to long-term use of opiods, but we are always told that as long as your taking your meds for true pain addiction is not going to occur (that's what my MD told me) What a bunch of BS!  But the blame can only be mine for I took the pills and so many times instead of taking them as written I would take 10x the prescribed dose for the pain was just to much resulting in my addiction. These pills have destroyed me, left me a shell of the person i once was...I applaud all of you that have been able to go through this and stay off the pills or whatever your DOC may be. I'm just trying to get through this minute and then the next but I'm just barely hanging on here and again I ask you sweet Jesus to help me, please help me
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Dave--You make a very good point. There really is not a lot of guidance regarding pain meds. Look at Tramadol!!  

"May be habit forming",,,"May cause drowsiness"  just doesn't quite explain what can happen to any individual, at any time, who takes a pain med. I think all these meds
should have very heavy,specific warnings. People don't always know exactly what happens when the pills stop!   Look at how many "accidental addicts" we've seen here.

I hope Mel or Sara check in here..
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1283286 tn?1312911966
Get some Progresso Vegetable soups..They were about the only thing I could tolerate..It was in small spoonfuls here and there at first, but as I ate more, it agreed with me more..I went mainly for the broth in them at first..I'd make pieces of toast too or nibble on crackers some, but within a day or so I started making sandwiches to go with it...When I thought of a meat and 3 veggie dinner or something, I just couldn't phantom it..Those soups really did help me though..I broke my time up with spoonfuls in mind as well..Every hr I would make myself get a little. So that was like gaining ground in each time increment saying to myself "ok, chaulk up another success and now go for the next"..

And Sara, I am very happy to hear you are there to help..There's a lesson being learned here about exactly how bad these pills can affect a person..As well as highlight how void the warnings are of the true nature of fullblown wd's from the oxy's...Regardless of whether a person is taking them as prescribed, over time, they will take a terrible hold on a person..Addict or not, they extract consequences which most don't realize is waiting for them until they decide to change course..And that change course comes from the person recognizing the fog the pills create after extended use where living becomes existence and existence only....So they decide "enough" only to find themselve deep in a dark hole wondering how they got there..Its a terrible drug from that aspect..
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you may also want to try adding Epsom salts to bathwater when soaking in the tub, I believe there is magnesium in the salt which will enter the body through the pores.  Good luck.
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