it seems that you have to walk through the pain to get to the good. I am just tired of how it feels to get the pills to much like being strung out. I want to wake up to coffee not hydrocodone to start my day
Hello, I have found out that you all have already done what I have been so scared to do for the longest because I am having to write papers for the next three weeks since I am graduating again with my masters work in psychology. I was cut off by my doctor this past Monday and I was so upset that I wanted to start drinking, but I gave that up cold turkey. I am strong enough to do this I just want to have the support I need to be there if I really get sick. Suboxone is one of the worst things that you could take if you are trying to withdrawal. It comes in several different miligrams and it makes life harder than it has to be, I want to be done with this for good because like you said you waist money and have lost your social life. I feel the exact same and I want my old life back. Thank you for your inspiration, and keep off of those Suboxone. Those are the new Methadone. They are all the devils drug so don't sub one for the other.
GOOD JOB...Just keep on stepping forward..It gets only better min by min. The Blessing just roll in....The sleep issue is a big one for all in the begin..There is alot of good things that work..I do OK with my Relax magnz, and Ds & Cal and night..I also do a melatonin every other night..I take these things I said only at night..Try to stay away from all stims at first...You are doing a great job..Just keep it up...
vickie
just to clear up a mistype...i ment to say..since i lost my incurance its like getting my stuff off the streets...really costly with out incurance..im on day 16with painkillers and day 3 off subs..im having a very hsrd time sleeping..other then that i dnt feel 2 bad...
sounds like your defiantly done with the crap this time..thats huge telling ur doctor that..congrats..i was getting my stuff of the streets,for years,hense the amount of money i was spending..im 5 days clean of the vickodens,but ive been nibbling on those subs a little bit,but i went 24 hrs today with out a piece of soboxone,with no ill effects..it seems the tapering off is working well,but we will see after im done wit this last half of the sub..if ur that determened u will b fine..i wish us both luck..and everybody else..
I'm on day 3 now with nothing. I slept very well last night with the help of ambien. I got out yesterday, and went to the movies. I had to MAKE myself, but I needed the fresh air. I have to work about 10 hours today, so I hope things still go well. I did have some time yesterday of horrible stomach cramps, like indigestion plus 100!! I just ate crackers and drank small amounts of milk. I am trusting that the worst is over. Good thing is, I don't even want to use! I actually had a refill come due yesterday. I called my dr and told him, I never wanted lortab again. That was a huge step for me!! Thanks for the support, and I'll keep everyone posted from her on out.
i found setting little goals for my self,like maybe buying that pair of shoes i wanted,with the money i saved,or that video game,cuz an extra 800 to a 1000 a month is a nice bit of change to have at my desposel ..i know its materialistic,but it works for me..im sick of handing that big wad of cash to the guy..im disgusted with my self,but thats a bonus when ur trying to quit..u have to truly be disgusted and want to quit.u can do it..donewiththiscrap..then u can get on here down the road, and help someone get past the hell their in..ill post again when i find out if these subs helped.
iill let every one know when im done with the sub,and if it helped with the withdraws...ether way im done with this curse..my body can trick me all it wants into getting what it wants,but im on to its little tricks of making me think i have to have somthing to make me feel happy..and punishing me by making me sick,if it doesnt get what it wants..ill beat this 1 way or another,then ill buy my big screen tv i wanted,with all the money i save..hell yehhh..cant wait to b free
i tapered down on the subs to a small piece a day,imm on day 4 with out any hydro,but these subs are powerfull, not sure if im really tappering down or just puting the same amount of opiats back in my system..ill be out of this last sub i have in a couple of days..im really worried about the not being able to sleep..i can handle the pain and sickness,have to b able to make it to work,ill ust say i have the flu..
I agree that using the subs (especially in this manner, from the street) is only going to delay your w/d's...and probably end up making them even worse down the line, as, due to the way the buprenorphine binds to the opiate receptors, and its long half-life, w/d can be a little more intense, and a little longer in duration.
My advice would be to just scrap both meds at this point, endure the w/ds with the help of the thomas recipe, and support here, and then as soon as you're feeling a little more human, start putting your aftercare plan in effect ASAP. That's so important.
If you decide you WANT to use Subs as a tool in your detox and w/d, I would highly recommend doing it the right way, with the help of a reputable clinic who is going to monitor you, add accountability with drug tests and therapy, and put you on a gradual taper plan. Sub CAN be a good tool in recovery, IF it's utilized properly....and for most people with a hydro or oxy addiction, I wouldn't recommend it as a first line treatment. I think it is always better to at least attempt detox first without a replacement med. Sub is VERY VERY strong. A little goes a long long way.
Best to you both, good luck! Remember..aftercare! SO vital!!
I really can't give you much advice about the subs.I am sorry about that.
All I could say is a little goes a long way and a fourth of one could get you through a day
i was addicted to pain pills off and on for about five years. i decided to truck through the WDs at home, by myself, without the assistance of any medication or professional help. by day two, i had no symptoms other than my stomach sort of acting up here and there; but nothing i couldn't handle.
the most important thing to remember is that everyone is different when they come off of medications. your drug of choice is different than mine was, so our WD stages, length, etc. would be different. even if someone enjoyed the same things as you once did - their WD aspects will be different as well. it all depends. but i hope you're through the horrible stuff!!!!
Hi Yes there is no easy way out but it does get better some bounce back quick some it takes awhile I feel it is how much, how long, and age. I took the hydo/oxy that lead to a 12yr mthedone plus others. went c/t and it was a experience that I will never forget and it keeps me strong today. I just do not like to see people do the merry-go-round on meds mostly the opiates that u 2 r on. I always found it easy to taper from that...A taper for me at home was not for me because I could just find the pills anywere. You can do it. Stay posting and are experinces can help you ride the storm. We have alot of things you can use to help......
Hang tight you will be fine we all made it....
vickie
Hey you two....welcome to the forum....
You seem to both be in a position where you were/are addicted to hyrdros and are both using suboxone? Not sure, but I think that's right.
I was a hydro user.....used subs for 28 days.....new absolutely NOTHING about subs going on them.....OR getting off.....I was one sick mess....didn't know about this forum nor did I have a sub dr that explained ANYTHING.
Having said that, if I knew what I know today......I'd NEVER recommend
taking suboxone to get off PILLS. MUCH much stronger narcotic binding to your pain receptors.....and you WILL have to get off that next.
You both have very few days on the subs....don't even know if they are thru a sub dr or sub program.......but, just imo......you'd save yourself a lot of time, money and w/drawal time by just addressing the hydro addiction.
Lastly, wanted to mention to you "donewiththiscrap", that if you go know how to "copy and paste" you could go to the top of this page and find the orange "post a question" tab, then copy and paste your comment/question from this thread of dragonslayer's.....and you will get more help and responses that are specific to you. When I was new, I didn't have a clue about threads, posts, copy/paste, nothing...hahaha, but if each new forum member starts his/her own thread and then sticks with it as the hours pass...more people can follow you, help you more personally.
Keep on keepin on......and welcome to the recovery zone~
I just did the same thing. I took 1/2 the 8. So 4mg sub for 3 days. I've had nothing for 51 hours. I have a headache, and ringing in my ears and a little tired. Throw the rest away!!!! Don't take anymore. Don't get addicted to those. I'm getting up and working. You got this. Don't be depressed. That surely won't help. Be HAPPY!! You took the first and biggest and hardest step.
I took my last 10 lortab on Wednesday. Then Thursday morning I took 4mg sub. I did this till Saturday. I'm going on 48 hours with nothing. I have a headache, backache and ringing in my ears
I am a single mom of an 8 yr old. And I own my own business. I almost lost my house last month due to my street spending for this crap.
I almost lost the only refuge my son has. I try to be a good mom. I'm just so moody on those. Plus I'm always worried about running out. And I'm generally just disgusted with myself.
He, my family, my friends, and myself deserve more.
Thanks for all the great advice on here.
I'm almost 40. In my 20's after a year of smoking and snorting meth I have it up. I said enough is enough. And did it cold turkey. Same with alcohol and cigarettes.
I was later referred to as a drug abuser not a drug addict. I believe they're one in the same. A psychologist even did a thesis on me in college, because I just had the willpower to stop using. Her studies had shown it wasn't possible to quit meth on your own. I always said it was my strong religious background. I felt guilty.
I do know this drug had a harder hold on me than any other in my life!! Now I should feel guilty, and I do because my son deserves his mom
Back.
Do you think I'm over the worst part? 48 hours clean. No vomit. No diarrhea. I've been taking gabapentin for a month. And an occasional adovan. I slept fine. Like I said. Headache, ringing ears, back pain and kinda lethargic. But after 51 hours. Will the other set in? I didn't take the subs but 4 days, to get the pills out of my system. Did it just out off the inevitable? Or am I one of the lucky ones who's body just does things differently.
Thanks to everyone for the support. I've been on here for days reading. Thought it was time to post.
Sorry, I know it was long!! I needed to get it out!!
I've been addicted to lortab and perc 10's for 5 years. About 15-20 pills a day. I want off I'm done. I feel like **** mentally and physically all the time.
sry about the slow replys,but i lost my internet at home do to the habit,couldnt pay the bill..so any way,do u think that soboxon is helping me at all,its my 4th day off of the hydrocodones,and i only took a half of soboxon for the entire day yesterday..and feel fine..i guess ill find out,ether way,im done with this curse for good,the devil can make me sick if he wants,but i will prev ale..ill win this fight cuz i want to stop..wanting to is more then half the battle..thanks everyone who responded..ill try to update..
Look set a date to cOme off them, like when u don't have to work for a few days like the weekend then call in sick a day or 2. U will feel like crap like ubhave the flu take Imodium it helps and u won't have an appetite but make yourself eat n drink as much as possible. It flushes u out sooner. The physical WD are the hardest. & there is no easy button. Taking methadone suboxen anything like that is just synthetic heroin & u will then b dependent on those. at home detox is hard. And I found finding a few Xanax helped me so I could eat and sleep some. Prepare yourself for hell for 3/4 days then take one day at a time.
my biggest fear is missing work do to withdraws...im 100% committed to quiting..im always broke cuz of it,and have no social life any more..im done..unfortunetly,i may have just delayed the withdraws with a substitute..hope this wasnt a huge mistake,taking n8..i may have just waisted 3 days 0f clean..so i thought..ugggggg..im depressed now..
ohh thats not good..i thought these were ment to help u kickthe habit?any sugestions on what to do or how to finish the last 2 i have..
n8 yess thats it...so im on my 3rd day now,and i feel great,havent taken any of the sobostions or whatever since last night..so will i still get sick after im done taking them?
Please, do NOT take something that you don't know what it is.. that's a recipe for disaster. Please PLEASE be careful here.
oops n8 I meant.If so you are taking an opiate much stronger than the hydro and much longer acting.You will probably find yourself in withdraws a day or so after you take the last one.