how long will the withdrawal last from hydrocodone?

[billyb0b]

I am on day 9 of my detox from hydrocodone 10/650, about 15 a day and also 5 10mg ambien per day.I have been taking the hydrocodone for 3 years. I do feel better but am still very tired and achey (achy). Not complaining, it was much worse a few days ago. I still have the chills with an inner coldness. Also, only a few hours of sleep each night. I detoxed for 4 days using buprenorphine and clonidine from an outpatient program. I am not depressed so much just unmotivated. Just walking to the bathroom is a hike. Does anyone know or have an idea how long this will last. I expected not to sleep because of the dependence to ambien. If you are taking ambien, please be carefull. It is very addictive. I am proud to be clean for nine days. I have cravings often and agree, they only last about 20 seconds. I have been reading from this website since I started and it has helped me get through the tough times. Its a battle but we must be strong. Thanks.

[Mike1174]

Well, this is my first time on here. Let me tell my story. Ok, I had a Hernia operation 4 years ago, I was perscribed Percocet. When I took them for the pain, I really didnt get high just took the pain away. So about a week later after my pain went away from my operation, I had 10 percs left from my script. Me being the ******* Iam, started to get hooked on these pills.Dont ask me why I took the rest of the pills, I was an idiot and of course they made you feel good, anyway so now Iam hooked on these pills. Now Iam a pill head, so I was talking to my cousin at a family get together and we started talking about percs, and I already knew he was addicted to them and that I can get them from him anytime I want because he has connections. So now, I was asking my cousin to get me percs, so I continued to use. Now with this New Drug called OXYCONTIN that came out a few years ago, my cousin told me these are stronger and better, so I started on oxycontin. I took oxycontin for like 2 years. Anyway, now my cousin went from OXY to Heroin, which I never did. I sorta thought to myself that Heroin is a junkie term and that I would never take Heroin which I didnt but Oxycontin is just as bad if not worse. SO to support my habit, I started to steal from my father and his business, taking money and signing checks from his business to get pills, I feel so ******* guilty for that and I pray everyday for forgivness. So, I said to my self back in November of 2000 that I need to get off of this ****. SO, I went to a methadone clinic, those basterds, Nurses were nice, the financial people were assholes, if you didnt have the money, you dont get the methadone, and they are trying to help me. I just have to say one thing about Methadone Clinics "ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, THEY DONT GIVE A FLYING **** ABOUT US."

Anyway, So, I have been on Methadone for a year, now Iam detoxing, I was on 120mg for the first few months of start and then about 2 weeks ago, I said **** this Iam not paying these people any more, So, when I decided to do that, I was on 21 mgs of Methadone, and if you dont pay they will FEETOX you so many milligrams to get you down to 0 in 7 days, So, I took my last dose of 4mgs of Methdone this past Saturday, felt fine till today Sweats and everything but contolable. I talked to my consoler and he said that the drug takes 2 weeks to get out of your system is this true, even if I tapered to 4mgs, oh, well. Anyway, SO, I have been clean for 5 days now and I just want to get this Withdraw overwith and get on with my life. I came to realize, the reason, I took the rest of the 10 percs to get me hooked was because I was DEPRESSED, this is what the consoler told me could be true. I have no desire to use what so ever. So, my question how long does it take to get through the withdraw. Be well People. Thank YOU.

[Witchywoman]

Hi and congratulations for getting this far into your detox.

Billybob, I remember all to well that intense fatigue that comes during hydro detox. Walking just a few steps felt like it took all my energy for a week or so.  The fatigue was totally gone after two weeks for me. It took a full month for my stomache pains to go away and for me to feel like I was totally back to normal.



Keep at it though..the freedom is worth it, and you will feel better soon.  Sleep was the last thing to return to normal.



love,

WW

[billyb0b]

Thanks WW for answering my questions. I really do appreciate it. Everyday I feel a little better. I am just so sick of being exausted all the time. I guess that is something to think about when that devil on my shoulder is trying to get me back on this stuff. Mike, just hang in there. I have never been on methadone but I know what you are going through. It will get better, be strong. Thanks.

[Nawoc]

I have chronic intractable back pain so I must take addictive drugs on a regular basis and also must detox on a regular basis.

My average use is about 10 to 15 10mg hydrocodone pills per day.

when I have only 15 - 20 10/650 pills left I start only taking

no more than half the pills per day. I still ache and have a

zero energy level, but, It's a 5 day detox that works for me.



My first few detox, I went form 15 to 20 pills per day to zero.

Man, talk about sick and hurt. The spoils of no pain...  I still

take hydrocodone some each month. I would take more if I could

get them, but, I don't do the street scene. I am 55 and don't want to be associated with drug dealers. BUT, I still need pain

reliefe.



I am 100% disabled vet and I urge all DAVs to write their congressman and reps and senators to get better health care and treatment of pain.  If you don't tell someone how bad your pain is and how hard it is to get quality medical care through VA hospitals, no one will know.  Patriotism is at it's highest in

a half century. Now is the time to act and now is the time to be heard.



For more information on quality pain control visit my site.

http://www.sirinet.net/~garyc/pain.htm



Good Luck Billybob. Detoxing is a ***** but anyone can do it thats wants to...

Thank you all for listening..

[Mike1174]

Hi, Everyone, I feel much better today, still some aches and still feel wobbly but tolerable. I tell you METHADONE and any other Opiate is powerful stuff man. I dont think my withdraw had been as bad as other I have talked with, but Iam almost done and not even thinking about using. Iam on day 6 of not taking Methadone, My last does was Last Saturday at 4mgs. I talked with my consoler and he said by Sunday you should feel normal again. THANK GOD. I pray everyday to end this pain Iam in, Iam never using again. So inconclusion, please by all means get off heroin or Methadone or any other opiate for that matter you will feel much better if you do. Also if anyone is in detox right now, what helped me was drink alot of fluids,eat if you can, and the most important thing that helped me was taking a multivitamin, that helps alot. Thanks All. God Bless

[AnnieS]

I can't agree with you more about the Money and Meth clinic. Beside oxy Methadone is the worst withdrawal I have ever had to deal with . You are something for doing it as well as you have. Just don't get too comfortable , that feeling to use could come back so always keep your head clear. I said I would never use again. I had 8 years, then I used again. Just want you to know that never again means ONE DAY AT A TIME. Don't use today and it will be a beautiful day. Hopefully tomorrow will be another. You might want to get into a support group. NA or AA just to be around other addicts in recovery. It helps me stay on the right road. Just my thoughts. Many , Many congratulations to you my friend for doing such a great job. Be very proud of yourself. Peace, Annie

[Mike1174]

Thank You ANNIES, I appreciate that. Its 2:00 Friday, and man do I feel 10 times better, I can actually function, my head hurts because I think my brain still has to get rid of the Meth and produce Dopamine, anyway, can someone tell me how I can get rid of the head aches, I have alittle tiny backache and alittle head ache, I have been taking ALLIEVE, its Naproxen, way better then shitty tylonal, anyway, thanks again. Good luck to all. God Bless

[Mike1174]

Oh, Thank You, sorry the message above was for you Annies and everyone else. Iam new at this. Anyway, I was just thinking and talking with my consoler this morning. Peoples addiction, now Iam not talking about people with cronic pain, but people that use to get high, stems from the fact that they feel worthless in life and depressed, being depressed was why I used, also alot has to do with the environment you are in, if you are with a drug addict or in a bad neighborhood where drugs flow freely can easily get you into the devils grip of using. I changed the people I hung out with and I moved to a nice subburb and Iam happy. So, I think people have to be strong mentally not to use and get conseling. But I feel for everyone, I have been there and good luck to all. God Bless

[AnnieS]

Well here we go again. I was so looking forward to thhis weekend because my boyfriend promised he would start the Revia tomorrow. I went out bought some food to make this great dinner and celebrate that he went a week , only one day away from it and when I got there he was crying. He took perks. Said he had a panic attack, freaked out and used. He could have taken the Revia, it was in his pocket just in case he had the urge. Well he blew it again. I went into a panic got a kidney pain in my back. Talked calmly and did the hardest thing I have ever done. I left. I can't even type cause I am crying so hard. I thought he could do it. I know how hard it is for him but he was so close. I just know that I was so sick all last weekend because he was so messed up. He promised. We went to a meeting every night this week. He was up, feeling good. clear eyed and his energy even started coming back. He was taking the vitimins.....everything. Hours away and now we are both in pain again. Don't worry I WILL NOT PICK UP!!! seeing him in so much self disgust and pain has made me not want to use even more. Hang in there Mike, you are doing great....Meth is one of the toughest. I pray for everyone to grasp some of your strength. I love you all but I'm in pain. I am dissapointed. I can't go back. He needs to do this himself. He's my addiction. I need to really concentrate on not picking up (the phone). Love to all, Annie

[Grey]

Hi, everyone!  My name is Grey, and this is my first time on this site.  First of all, I would like to say, "thanks."  Now, I know I do not stand alone in my dreariness. I had an operation about 4 months ago, and have been taking hydro all this time.  First, it started out with the 5's then the 7.5's then the 10's and now I am taking the 15/325mg of hydrocodone.  I usually ingest about 5 of these a day.  I am really starting to get scared that there is no hope for me and my pet(hydro). Can anyone give me some encouraging words and info. about what I should do?  Thanks, Grey

[Telby]

I give you alot of credit for coming so far.  I would like to know more about buprenorphine (is that spelling right?) Did it help you during withdrawals and anything you can tell me about it.  I know clonadine is helpful but for people with low blood preasure it is out of the question.  Did an addicion clinic give you these meds for detox?  I am really interested, thanks, Telby

[Telby]

For some reason my posts are not going through so I'll try again. Billybob I was interested in buprenorphine.  Did you get it from the counseling program and how did it help with withdrawals. Any information would be helpful.  thanks, telby

[Schlub]

Buprenorhpine (Buprenex) is a wonder drug, pure and simple.



It will take you through withdrawals painlessly if done right, and so long as you don't use it more than a week or two, it isn't addictive. It's what's called a "partial" opiate agonist -- i.e., it binds to opiate receptors (thus blocking the pain of withdrawal) but does not produce a euphoric "high." But because it's also a partial opiate "antagonist", if you take it while still using narcotics and before you actually go into withdrawals, it'll put you into withdrawals. So wait 24 hours after your last dose of drugs, then take the Buprenex and it'll completely eliminate your withdrawal symptoms.



In the US, Buprenex usually comes in .3 mg ampules that are meant to be injected IM -- probably 2 amps every 6 hours for the first couple of days, then 1 1/2 amps every 8 hours for a couple more days, and then contuing to taper down like that. But some detox clinics have their patients squirt the ampule under the tongue, where it can be absorbed sublingually.



It's also available (especially overseas) as Temgesic, a sublingual tab in 0.2 mg and 0.4 mg strengths. Some online pharmacies sell the sublingual Temgesic tabs without a script.



But it's best to be seen by a doctor. In California, any doctor can simply phone in a script for Buprenex injectable to a Walgreens. I don't know about other states.



Talk to people who have used Buprenex to withdraw without pain. It's truly a miracle. It's so good, in fact that it may have the unfortunate side effect of letting people think they can go back to their drug of choice because they know they can always use Buprenex to get themselves off it when they want to painlessly!

[J.B. to Brian and Vicky]

All of this rapid detox and bupenorphine talk is just fine. I think you'll agree that staying detoxed is the hardest part of this process.  The thought of using never seems to go away no matter what I do or how long I abstain. It's always lurking around the bend!



I would like to congradulate everyone here that has been successful in staying clean. It's a tough road and anyone who says it isn't, is probably not an addict. It is doable but it takes everything we have and then some to live a life in recovery! Shlub, you sound as though you've got some answers and I hope you will be able to share them with us. Welcome back!



J.B.

[Francoise]

I have never heard anyone speak of bupenorphine like you have above. I might have to try that just to see if it would work for me that way.



I also wanted to make you aware of Thomas' recipe for withdrawal. You can get the recipe at: http://pub37.ezboard.com/bthenewaddictionmedicineforum

There are many folks who say it does the trick for them.



Hope it works for you.



Francois

[Schlub]

Long term, the only reliable way I know of to stay clean is to go to AA meetings or find some other source of emotional and spiritual inspiration that transforms being clean from a state of NOT doing something (i.e., not using) to a state of positive involvement in a community of like-minded people.                



As for buprenorphine, all I can say is it works. There's no reason anymore to suffer the horrible pain of withdrawal. You'll still feel lethargy and other effects of early recovery, but you don't have to suffer that deep sickness anymore.

[Telby]

Thank you so much for the good informaion.  I wonder if the temgesic in pill forms works as well as the injectable.  Any information that helps eliviate the suffering can help so many people.  Of course it's important to have the support for long term success and 12Step programs work the best for many people. Francoise, thank you so much for giving the addiction boards address, I never seem to give it correctly.  Please do go there and read Thomas's detox receipe, it is effective not just for the withdrawal process but for long term stability.  Telby

[Schlub]

Buprenorphine is not quite as potent sublingually as when injected IM. But all that means is, instead of, say, 2 amps of .3 mg Buprenex every six hours you'd probably have to take 4 .2 mg tabs sublingually to achieve the same effect.



One advantage of the Temgesic sublingual is that you can buy it online without a prescription at some sites. I'm not aware of any online pharmacy where you can buy the injectable without a script, but I'd love to hear of one.



Know any?

[juneau]

i just found this forum and i have to say i, naively, had no idea this was a problem for anyone else.  I decided to stop taking norco last monday having no idea there would be a withdrawl from this drug, except perhaps for cravings.  by the next morning i realized things weren't okay at all and i started counting the hours and days, feeling half crazy and like this would never be over.  I lay awake at night paranoid that i've permanently damaged my brain and that this recovery will be going on just as strong 30 years from now.  can anyone reassure me that this is not a possibility? also, i made it five days and then freaked out and took two.  I'm now on day two when i could have been on day seven.  does anyone know what the magical # of days is? or is there one? when i read posts from people who still aren't over it on day nine, i get a little worried.  nine days feels like an eternity....

[Schlub]

It may sound simplitic, juneau, but it really is just a matter of "hanging in there." If you don't have access to Clonidine or buprenex, and don't want to go to a doctor to get either of these meds that ease withdrawal symptoms, then just suffer through it. By day 5 or 6, you should be feeling better. At the end of two weeks for sure, you will be so glad you stuck with it.



Remember, you have the rest of your life to go back tpo using narcotics if you want. Just take a couple of short weeks out of your life to streuggle through withdrawal and then you'll be free. Free forever!



Also, remember that withdrawal (from opiates) never killed anybody. While it feels bad, also remember that the symptoms are really not much worse than a bad flu, looked at objectively. If you had knee surgery, you'd be feeling a lot worse than this.



But what makes withdrawal *seem* worse is the mental panic  that goes with it --- the irrational sense that you simply can't trake this any longer. If you tell yourself that it's only a "withdrawal panic" talking, it won't seem so bad.



Good luck.

[skipper]

Schlub:

hey, i don't if you remember me from last summer or not. it's

great to see you posting. how are you doing? did you detox off

the buprenex?



keep an angel on your shoulder

kip

[Schlub]

Yes I did, and yes I remember you, Skip.



Nice to see you around.

[juneau]

i just came to this forum again and read what i wrote about six days ago.  i just wanted to tell schlub how right you were...i made it a total of eight days now and i feel incredible.  things are one hundred percent different.  things went from being so bad to being liveable and even likeable again.  a week ago i wouldn't have believed this was possible, but i'm not even thinking along the same wavelengths as i was before.  thank you for responding...your advice helped me immensely.  good luck to everyone...



p.s. i hope this doesn't sound too simplistic...i'm sure, in the end, there are people having a much worse time than i did and my empathy and support goes out to you.

[Telby]

Did you end up getting medication to help or did you just go through the withdrawals to the end?  I am so glad to hear that you are doing so well, it's those kind of stories that give me hope.  I have no way to get meds to help so I will be doing it cold turkey, I'll live I know but it is good to hear that someone is over and done with it.  Telby

[Schlub]

I'm so happy for you, Juneau!



Looking back, doesn't it seem like the pain and anguish of woithdrawal was a bit inflated? Yeah, it's bad, but I remember feeling afterwards like "Why did I wait so long to get clean?"



It was my fear talking. The "panic of withdrawal," I call it. That doesn't mean it's not powerful and painful, just that it's easier to beat than we imagine when we're still using.



Anyway, congratulations! You've got your life back, and that is no small thing.

[Telby]

Hey Tommy - I'm starting my detox today so I am way behind you. I woke up to withdrawal symptoms this morning so we'll see how I do.  I am trying to be positive this time and stay focused on getting through to the end, how ever long that takes.  You're getting there Tommy so keep eye on the prize.  Telby

[lizj]

If you can find a GOOD detox program, there is hope.  I had a grest one, but it was still the worst 2 weeks of my life.  Now, I'm a new person.

I suggest an ambulatory program (that means you stay at home.) You have to have someone stay with you, but if you are locked in, and decide that the program isn't right for you, you're stuck.

Be certain that if one med doesn't work, the pros are willing to try another.  Ask if they are familiar with the detox.  Mine was OxyContin, which they tell me is the hardest of all.  I believe you are taking the same thing with a different name.  

Certain places will over-medicate you, some will under-medicate and tell you to live with it.

Make sure they know that you did NOT abuse, but used it as prescribed.  And be sure someone is available 24 hours a day, because you will not sleep much.  Be prepared to occupy yourself when you have some discomfort - it's better than over-medicating.  AND TAPER OFF the detox drugs.  They can be addictive, too.

In the future, tell doctor's not to give you addictive meds.

BEST OF LUCK - TO ALL OF YOU.

[stomcat4]

Hey Telby! You're in my prayers tonite. As you go through your withdrawls, just know that you were very instrumental in keeping another going and believing he can do it. I am very Grateful to you. I may have few more days right now, but your thoughtfulness, compassion and wisdom are more powerful than any detox medicine. I took an Ativan this morning and was able to function much better. I know now in my heart, that I can do it!! Thank You! Love, Tommy

[Telby]

I got hit with sickness first thing this morning so I am on my way.  I am not afraid, I know how bad it will be but I will get though it. Tommy, thank you for your kind words, your a sweetheart. I'll keep letting you know how I am,  love, telby

[stomcat4]

Hey Telby! How are you feeling? I am still, after 8 days going through some kind of withdrawl. Stomache Pains,chills, no appetite still are the symptoms of my day. There is a great web-site for all addiction-related questions. It's www.doctordeluca.com. This Doc put me on the right road last spring and I was ok until my knee injury. He answers many questions on detox meds also.Check it out. Can't hurt. Look forward hearing from you. God Bless! Tommy

[stomcat4]

Hey Telby! I hope you are feeling a little better this morning. In my withdrawls, I've learned that first thing in the morning is tough. If you live anywhere on the Eastern Seaboard, it's supposed to be close to 65 degrees today. If you can find a park to soak up some sunshine, I think would help greatly. Think of all the good you have done in your life, your achievments, the people you love and what makes you happy. It will make you stronger. As you can tell, I'm feeling a little better every passing day. We all have the answers inside us. Just takes a little digging. Hang in there! Love, Tommy

[skipper]

Telby:

i've been so wrapped up in my own petty problems that i didn't

notice you have begun a detox. god's speed, the love of everyone

whom oarticipates in this forum, some persevance, and you should

be able to do it!



yesterday, i was about halfway thru day 3 for me when searing pain

changed my plans. i don't think i'm being too hard on myself, but

i'm really disgustted and dissapointed. one of the reasion i detox at somewhat regular intervals  is to find out if my level of pain

is at or below a level i can function in. it isn't that today or

yesterday!!



enough about my **** though! i truely wish you the best in this

exciting opportunity you've allowed yourself. please remember:

1) i'm going to love and care about you and there isn't a damm

thing you can do about it.

2)in the short time you've been with us you have brought something

to this forum that wasn't here before... you've brought yourself.

yeah you've shown us the good and the bad about yourself. i think

it takes a tremendious ammount of courage to do this! i will re-

member you in my thoughts and prayers today!



keep an angel on your shoulder

kip

[Telby]

Day two is always make it or break it day for me as the sickness is in full throttle.  I am determined to see this through, not allowing any thoughts that get me into trouble and keeping my fear at a dull roar.  I have been through withdrawals before so I know what is happening and I will not panic - it's a process I have no other way around.  Once day #2 and #3 are behind me I think I'll be over the hump. My body reacts in some drastic ways at first that are painful beyond belief but once that happens and opiates are still not used it will mellow out. So for today and tomorrow I can sure use some of those good thoughts.  love, telby

[J.B. to Brian and Vicky]

I'm thinking and hoping for you today. The first few days are bad enough but I think you have the right frame of mind to continue. You've been there before, I suspect, and this is on your terms...not forced upon you. That is all in your favour plus less resentment involved.



I have about 32 days of good time under my belt and have to admit that it still isn't easy to get up in the morning without my "old friend" to cheer me up. I'm on my own now. I have to be my own best friend to stay clean. And it takes a lot more than will power to stay this way. If we are accepting, help comes from all around us!  Be good!



J.B.

[stomcat4]

Hang in there Telby! I hope you're feeling a smidgeon better than yesterday. I'm off to Amtrak in NYC this a.m to take my return to work physical. I'm bringing a printout of all the prescribed meds I was on since last September. It's 3 pages. EEECH! Today is my 11th day and you know it gets better with each passing day. I still taken an Ambien at nite for sleep and a couple of Benzos for my nerves during the day. Soon, I realize, I have to cease this. I'll feel better when this day is complete with the physical and initially seeing co-workers I haven't seen in 5 months. Knowing we are all going through this together, that we are not alone, is soothing. We can do it! Tommy

[Telby]

I actually did remember that today was your physical and wondered how you would do.  You sound good and your co workers will be impressed at how great you are feeling.  I expected today to be as bad as yesterday but I actually feel slightly better.  I am able to sleep which many are not so I know that help, also taking mega doses of Vit.C along with my other vitamins/supplements so that may be detoxing me faster.  Still have a ways to go but you are so nice to stay in touch with me, good luck today.  love, telby

[stomcat4]

I'm really happy you're feelin a little better. First few days are torture. In my case, the first 10 days! My physical went great! I seen alot of friends at work, and I think once I get back, things will hopefully fall back into place. I work the Bar Car from NYC to Niagara Falls, Canada. I'm like the shrink on the Train. You give somebody a couple of beers and they open up to you like you wouldn't believe. If you're ever on the East Coast, let me know, take a ride to Canada. Train Rides are very relaxing. When we're not 4 hours late! Only Kidding! Hang in there Telby, WE NEED YOU!!!!   Love, Tommy

[dabby]

Hi-

I have been taking hydrocodone for about 2 1/2 years now on a daily basis and have not had to withdraw yet.  I thought my luck had run out and I almost got caught doctoring up prescriptions, but the pharmacy only called my doctor.  My doctor in turn, gave me a warning, but will still write prescriptions for me.  This is my problem.  He will only write for 4 a day will not give me refills on the scripts.  When I was writing in the refills on the bottom of the scripts, I was able to get enough to take from 14 to 20 pills a day.  How do you cut back?  I have severe pain in both legs, have had both knees replaced and am hopelessly addicted.  Not only does hydrocodone relieve my physical pain, but relieves my emotional pain.   I do not want to withdraw, but have never done street drugs, and have no idea who to contact.  I am very afraid of getting caught.  Just wanted to log in today. Hope everyone is doing okay..

[stomcat4]

Hey Dabby! I can relate to the pain and withdrawl from pain meds. I had knee surgery last September and was prescribed Oxycontin and Percocets. I took my last painkiller on 1/18. It's tough to wean and eventually stop doing, but you can do it. I'm not a stranger to painkillers. I have been on and off for about 25 years. I had a Doctor who specialized in addiction to help me wean down and eventually arrest my painkiller addiction. He weaned me down with Darvocet(low grade painkiller) Clonidine(for withdrawl symptoms) and Valium( for Anxiety) These guys work with you on how long you want to safely wean down from your usage of opiates. If you want to browse a good website, check out www.doctordeluca.com. He answers many a question on detox. I hope you can hang in there and give it your best shot. My body is still adjusting, but it's getting a smidgeon better every day. I know I don't want to go thru another withdrawl. Going to work tommorow for the 1st time in 5 months, so I'm a little anxious. Don't be afraid to reach out for help, so keep posting. Hang in there!  Tommy

[Telby]

Do yourself a huge favor, stop immediatly doctoring your scripts. This is felony stuff and detoxing in jail is not fun. Really, stop or you will get caught, everybody does.  Four a day can help you taper and lower your tolerance so your not in such a bad spot.  Withdrawal is always hard but better when it's on your own terms and you've prepared yourself.  Your in a position where you could have all of your choices taken away very fast. Don't mean to preach but your Doctor is not going to risk his career for you and it carries substancial jail time.  Please keep posting, I promise I won't lecture you again, promise. Telby

[dabby]

Hi,

I am just on my way to work and have read the postings and responses to my posting.  Thanks, appreciate the words. I know I am at the end of the road and I am very scared and also sad.  I will miss my pills, and I knew it was just a matter of time anyway.  It's going to be very hard to come off of these things, still manage the pain, the physical and emotional withdrawal, and still work.  The most ridiculous thing is that I work for an agency that deals with mental illness, MICA issues and addiction.  I should have been a client and have felt so hippocritical and guilty.  Go to go now to work.  I look forward to reading these postings and they do help me.  Barbara

[lilangel]

hi i have been taking vicodin es 2 three times a day for 2 years now,, following a injury,, i do suffer from chronic pain now on a daily bascis, but im scared that im also now addicted to these meds,, i did try a day not to take any but i got really sick and moody, so i quick took them and then i was back to normal.. does any one know how much is too much?? and when a person should stoped even if they do have chronic pain??? thanks

[dabby]

Hi,

Help! I feel awful.  I am cutting way back on my hydrocodone and I cant stand it.  I am only taking 10-5/00 a day and I keep telling myself that this is better than complete withdrawal, but my body wants more.  I cannot function.  I am trying to work, but cannot concentrate on anything and I feel weak, achy, depressed.  I have absolutely no interest in anything except getting more.  I have to be strong this time and I need support and help.   I am a 51 year old woman, who has had severe arthritis pain and really have a reason to take the stuff, but I have abused it badly.  I was taking about 30-40 s day, and if I could continue to get more I would take more.  I think my liver is shot from all the tylenol.  I have been doing this for about 2 1/2 years and even if I go through the withdrawal, that won't take care of the underlying problem of depression.  I never seemed to have an interest in anything unless I was high.  I will continue this later, I am posting from work and it is hard. I keep telling myself that this could be alot worse, I could be without any.

[Telby]

Hi hon, sorry your going through such a hard time.  Your body is fighting back in response to your taper, it is use to a certain external amount of opiates and takes it very hard when that changes.  I would suggest you begin a daily vitamin regiment, a good multi vitamin, 1-2,000 mgs. Vit. C, 2-4,000mgs. of L-Tyrosine, 50-100mgs. Vitamin B complex and 5HTP.  I split it and take in morning and evening - this will help your brain chemistry rebound from the depletion.  If you are on an Antidepresent just stick with the multivitamin and Vitamin C. The 5HTP might be alright to but ask Dr. or a good health food store.  Not all antidepresents are a problem with amino acids so if your on one, call your Dr. and ask.  This time of year with minimal sun is also a trigger for depression so on nice days go outside and take a walk or sit and read with a good book. 12Step meetings help alot of people, if you haven't been pick an open meeting and just listen, see if it feels like the place for you. Keep your chin up.  love, Telby

[dabby]

Hi,

I want to thank you for your comments about my doctoring my scripts.  It seems that my addiction overpowered my sense of reason and I was lucky (or unlucky) to get away with it for so long.  I right now am very, very depressed and also feeling very guilty.  What I am going through, I probably deserve, but it doesn't make this any easier.  I am glad I found this forum. I have to try to work every day, but cannot concentrate, do not feel connected or interested in anyone, anything, and it kills me to know that a few pills can make all this misery go away.  I can't go that route anymore, but have a very strong desire to do so.  I am already taking effexor and trazadone for depression, and have started taking clonodine for withdrawal.  I too, have read about the vitamins, but think I am already getting what I need from everything else.  I take a multi vitamin and also calcium. I don't know how much clonodine to take, but have a feeling I may be taking too much because I am feeling numb, like a walking robot.  Telby, you can "lecture" me anytime because what you said brought me to my senses.  Thank you.  Barbara

[lanas]

I have posted in a couple of other threads, but just got through reading this one and was very curious about how you were doing?

[shovel]

i have some tramadol to deal with the bad times but   today i start getting clean . I take 6 to 12 10 mgs a day of what ever i can get . iam sick of this tacking over my life it sounds like its going to last longer then i had thought ,I have a 2 year old son and my wife works all kinds of hrs so i watch him most of the time . I dont know what life will be like on the other side of the drugs but iam ready to find out

[jenvin]

I am so grateful for this site, I am a retired trauma nurse and for the longest time thought I was alone in my addiction problems.  I was hurt in an explosion, I was seriously burned, had broken bones, the mental trauma is something I am still dealing with one year later, my hair was burned, etc.  I was in the emergency room and it took like 60 mg of morphine to get me to the point I could stop screaming from the pain, burn patients have my deepest sympathy.  The pain was absolutely unbelievable.  I ended up taking hydro 10, for a the last year, I am now no longer working as a nurse, my addiction ended my career, and it ended my marriage.  I struggled with the decision to call my self an addict for the longest time, i thought I am a nurse how can I be an addict.  Wow, clearly I am an addict.  I have been weaning my self off, I am completely off the hydro 5 days now, and am taking like 4 darvocet a day now, I have been cutting back by 2 a day.  Sounds dumb I know but it seems to be working, I do not get any of the high at all, I no longer have the desire to use, in fact I am bothered by the fact that i have to take to the two pills in the morning and the two pills at night.  Tomorrow I will be at one in the morning and one at night.  My withdrawl symptoms are there but not severe by any means and I think I can get thru this in one piece.  I clearly have nothing but respect for all of you and rest easier knowing I can tell my story here and not be judged for my own stupidity.  Has anyone tried this method of weaning, It takes a little longer, but it seems to be working.  The worst thing is the leg cramps, they are awful, but I tried the cold turkey thing and thought I was going to die, I guess the most important thing is that you get clean no matter how you do it, am I correct.  There is life after addiction correct?

[jenvin]

You can do it,  I am home all day with my three kids, ages 16, 11, 6, it is not easy, but just remember you are doing it for them, Everytime you feel overwhelmed just look at them and imagine a day when you can go out to the park and play with them and not be worried about where tomorrows pills are going to come from, and not feel sick, tired, and disgusted with yourself.  Keep it up, stick with it, we will do this together.

[jenvin]

shovel where are you, how are you doing, I hope all is well, I truly do, my tapering is well, I am done today and feel really good for the first time in I do not know how long.  Sure wish I knew how you were doing.  I hope you are sticking with it,

[FLaddict]

This is a post from 2002.. These "old threads" get lost in the shuffle of new ones.. Not every current member has their settings up to have these old posts come to the first page.. so if you have any questions or need support.. please post a new question introducing yourself.. that way current members can see your post and respond

[chickabite]

Man, I just wrote out this whole thing and lost it all.  The basis of it was just saying that a slow rise to a heroin addiction that's lasted the past 5 years, has completely made me hate the stuff.  I'm constantly going through withdrawal for certain reasons, and am just tired of putting my body through this almost weekly.  I get high once or twice a week and withdrawal the rest of the time.  I was just on day 5 a few days ago and felt great, until I got high again and put myself right back on day 2.  Not looking forward to tomorrow either.  Toilet city.  That's the truth of it all.  You'll spend a good amount of time getting to know the toilet.  This must end.

[Jules-K]

I have been off hydro for about 3 months and thought that my black under eye circles would be diminishing by now.  I did not have them before my using so I am confused.  Any help? Thank you.
Julie

[S.O.S.911]

i am a pharmacy tech. i worked at walgreens for a while where i decided to try a 5 mg of hydrocodone.  Stupid Stupid Stupid,  I got hooked. then i started to call in my own scripts.  well long story short i am addicted to hydrocodone.  i have been taken 12 10/500mg of hydro every day.  and am at the point where i am ready to stop!!!  i am so scared of going through withdrawl.  i am a mother and student and work full time.  i dont know how i will get through the withdrawl with all this responibility.  i just want to know if there is anything that will help me?  My boyfriend dosent know that i am hooked i want to do this secretly so he dosnt know.  any suggestions

[LucyW74]

anyone know anything about tramadol? I have been on them for almost two years now(about 300 mg per day) and just quit two days ago. My withdrawals are HORRIBLE!! NO sleep, twitching restless legs, and lots more. Any clue as to how long I am in for all of this? I do have a script for ativan that I take that slightly takes the edge off. NEVER take tramadols!! They are poison!

[August Collins]

There is a trick to this.  May not be for everyone, but it helps enormously.
Get some Ritalin, Adderall (adderrall), Dexadrine, anything prescribed for ADD (Attention Defasite Disorder).  Everyone has ADD, just ask a shrink.
These are mild amphetamines and may be addictive, but of course not used just for just a couple weeks.
Use the Thomas Recipe (vitamines and supplements are imperitive).  An take as many amphetamines as you need to get up andgo and relieve the pain in your head (5,6,7 a day).  It works on both body and head.  You will be up all night (maybe for 3-4 days), but you're going to be up anyway.  Might as well be pain free and able to concentrate on something.
After a few days you will dream of sleep.  Stop taking them.  Continue with the Vitamines and supplements, and EXERCISE as much as possible.
You will get thru this.  If you still have symtoms, take more for a couple days.

[PAULY7951]

I tried Suboxone. Only certain doctors in California can write a script for it. The doctor has have to have gone to training to write a script. And it seems if you are on Methadone you might go through HELL after taking it. I it after not do Methadone for 4 1/2 days and wound up in E/R. GOOD LUCK

[draddicted2]

I went to pain management doctor..they gave me 5/500 Hydro that wasn't enough I moved to 10/325 taking 6-8 a day for the last two years..I wanted to see if I still was experiencing the nerve pain so I tried to get off, WICKED Withdrawl...Tried on my own several times, weening doesn't work its not even worth trying if you been on opiates for over a year your wasting your time.  I got a doctor and after an $800 one time payment he gave wrote me several scripts and put me on detox plan using Suboxone.

Here is what you need to get off with little pain in one month:

Suboxone – Two weeks starting high and ending low, weaning.
Prozac – once a day to keep your mood positive  4 weeks
Hydroxyzine – up to 4 times a day for anxiety 4 weeks
Baclofen – up to 4 times a day for muscle spasms 4 weeks
Vitamins – Take a multivitamin - forever

Keep in mind Suboxone does help the withdrawl but it only eases the major withdrawl symptoms.  I am the end of week 3 right now, and pretty depressed but have no cravings I never want to take something addicted again.  I hope this helps some.

More info here:

http://www.myaddiction.info/

[mark0903]

Hi my name is Mark. I'v been taking 4 or 5 7.5 mg of vicodin or vicoprofen 2 or 3 times a week for 8 months now. This past week I took 5 for 3 days in a row. I stopped and now I'm getting panic attacks, sweats and insomnia big time. I take some lorazepam to help take the edge off but I'm wondering about how long I have to go through this?

[IBKleen]

You are posting on an old thread. No one will answer..it will get lost. Go to the bottom of this page. Hit the back to the forum button. You will see a post a question button. Hi that and follow it through. You will then post a new question and get the advise and suggestions you need. Hope to seee you out there.

[Guilty96]

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[Guilty96]

Wow, Well here is my success story. I was arrested for obtaining a RX by fraud for Hydrocodone and MS Contin... Now for the last 5 years I have been taking 240 hydrocodone 10/325 a month legit RX and 90 MS Contin 60mg a month.... the First 4years and 7 months I was under a Dr's care then he up and left the practice and moved to TN. so I started seeing the other Dr in the practice and said he felt my dosage was excessive and told me he would not treat my pain... (All documented pain MRI Xrays and Ultrasounds orthopedic reports and 5 previous surgeries.) I do not like Dr's so I wrote my own script... Got greedy andfor the last 5 months of my addiction I was taking 480 Norco(hydrocodonre) 10/325 and 180 Ms contin 60 I still had to get my RX's filled early because I would run out...I got more greedy the last time and when I ran out of the meds after 3 weeks I wrote myself a RX for 120 percocet 10 to get me to refill time... Got arrested and charged with 10 felony counts of obtaining controlled substance by fraud and one attempting to obtain... I had also up to that point been writting my RX for the 2 blood pressure medications I had been taking the last 5 years as well. Lisinopril and Atenelol.I was in bad shape when I got picked up from not having had taken the medications got bailed out and stopped at my inlaws house on the way home and stole 20 oxycontin 40mg from my Father in law. Now I had to find a Dr. Found a Dr recomended by a freind and got sure no problem here you go.I had checked into detox prgrams and all of them were 5000 dollars and up and had to pay out of pocket and get reimbursed. I went to court (Drug Court) without a lawyer got the arraignment continued because I had not retained a lawyer the lawyers I had seen said $10,000 for ten 3rd degree felonies... That was the cheapest quote... I said okay lawyer told me after I paid him 3500 he would let me pay him 500 monthly on the rest. I started saving went to court and the Judge said I had to plead guilty or not told me tough luck as far as trying to pay the retainer to the lawyer... I said I would represent myself... SHe said to talk to the prosecutor and they would recall my case that day... I talked to the prosecutor and she offered me DPTI. I had to admit to having a drug problem and agree to go to the state required 10 to 18 month drug program accupuncture 3x a week totaling 21 treatments 2  urine drops per week random I have to call every morning to see if I have to drop that day.... The Courtroom drug counselor evaluated me and recomended to the judge I needed residential treatmentI pleaded with the judge stating I hgad a job  a wife and 3 children she agreed to let me detox myself and I had to be backin one week. that she would give me that week to prepare myself and by the 1 week away court date needed to be prepared to give her my weaning down schedule.... I tried to ration what I had left and it made me binge when I went 2 days with 1/2 of what I was used to taking. two days before my court date September 15th 2007 I was tired and scared but motivated I dint want to see my family through glass windows. I was looking at up to 50 years in prison... Sat september 15th I took two hydro 10/325 and two ms contin 60mg and I flushed the rest I had down the toilet. I went to court Monday the 17th looking horrible at that point my last pill was taken 40 hours ago I told the Judge and she wished me luck and sent me on my way with a court date for one week again...  On my 8th day of detoxing cold turkey I found a Dr specializing in detox with Suboxin and agreed to see me with a 100 dollar payment and then arrangements of 100 every two weeks until 22 hundred was paid... He prescribed me 21 Suboxones 14 clonidine and 21 valuim. I was 8 days into cold turken and really didnt need any of what was prescribed.  I ended up taking 2 suboxone and got sick to my stomach and was non stop vomit for 24 hrs I went to court like that sick from the suboxone and the judge told me how bad I looked told her I was fine I did not  even pick up the clonidine or the valuim The worst of the cold turkey was day 3 through day 7. Four days of absolute hell I went to court the last time last tues and the judge told me how great I looked and how proud of me she was.... Nice to hear that... If you are considering cold turkey you can do it... Schedule a few days off from work try to schedule it where you have mon and tues off take your last pill weds that way thurs and friday are tolerable sat sun mon is the worst of ittuesday to try and compose yourself shave etc...  I found that a hot bath as much as it may sound good the pain and strain you have getting out of the tub is not worth the effort.... If anyone is considering the cold turkey or suboxone and are scared or just need a few words of encouragement you can email me....                                    ***@****

[Guilty96]

tlgang1973 at yahoo com

[country57]

hi, i wish i could get off the hydrocodone.. im fifty and have so much wrong with me. if i run out of the things i can't take the mussel spasims in my legs arms and all the jerking...i was on the fentenol patches and doing good. but the dr said if i didn't take the shots in my back he wouldn't see me no more.. so i did three at one time .and guess what he didn't see me again back to anoughter dr and hydrocodone ...i have lupus, fybromyliga ,degener artthris.my spine is deterating. pvd, so any suggestions

[marcatj]

hey country, you posted your post on a very old "thread" and often times people will not see it..

please post this again on a new thread: go above and hit the "Post a Question" button and repost - that way people are sure to see it and you will get feedback.

good luck sweety,
mj

[IBKleen]

This post was started many years ago. These people are no longer here.

Please go to the top of this page and hit the post a question button. Follow the instructions and make a new post of your own. Hope to see you in the forum. Take care.

[scann]

I can't thank every one enough for the great advice I have found on this site.  

Heres where I'm at now.  I have suffered from acute and uncontrolable depression for many years. Sometimes I'm perfactly fine and other times its as if a switch was turned on in my brain and i can't even function I'm so saddened. I was medicated and it realy helped but my insurance ran out and the only relief I could get from the mysery I suffer from in my head was to abuse opiats, mostly Oxy, and Percs.  The almost instantainous uforic pleaser made me feeel alive, free, normal. I don't even care about the high I just want to be able to function without such a heavy struggle all the time badeling my own thoughts every waking moment is so draining. I know I have an imbalance in my brain and that it is treatable but without insurance I make only enough money to keep my self 1 step away from severe suacidel depression. (Boy it sounds grim!) I tryed to stop with the drugs and got through the 3-5 day physical ordeal which as many of you know was damn near impossible. But once I felt a little energetic and could eat , basicly feel a little normal again, my depression hit me harder than ever and I had no choice to go pick up a couple 20s. It was that or possibly die. So thers my backround.
Question is how do I get off these damn things and keep my brain chemistry from getting so unbalanced that I would rather die than live with such an internal struggle.

[JDRMinSD]

Please do NOT use this as a substutute for advice from your personal (or any) medical professional----but have you tried St John's Wort?  An OTC herb when takin in the right dose 300mg 3x per day, works like an SSRI (Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, etc) and is more prescribed than all SSRIs combined in Germany.

And if you get suicidal, PLEASE call 911.  One of my best friends committed suicide last year...he was 24 years old and I am crying now about that and how much I miss him.  You CAN get better.  Suicide is NEVER the answer.

You really may want to consider starting a new post, you'll get more responses...

[lovemeorhateme]

Heres my story. I'm 17 years old and i've had a not so great last couple of years. I've had 5 sugeries which resulted in my ovary being removed. Since i was around 14 i've been on and off of pain killers, ( dilaudid, morphine, phentanal, Hydrocodone, oxtcodone) well i've gotten off of the big stuff before but i had a bad spell and had to get back on hydrocodone like 8 months ago. I'm taking around 7 10 mg hydrocodone a day. when i dont take them my withdrawls are horrible. I have a boyfriend who wants me off of these because it hurts him to see me need them to go out to a movie or dinner. I've started buying them on the streets because a bottle of 90 no longer lasts me an entire month. sometimes i take up to 10 a day. IM DESPERATE! HELP ME PLEASE!!! what should i do, i can't live like this! YOU ALL UNDERSTAND LIKE NOBODY ELSE DOES!!

[JDRMinSD]

Hi-
Your post sounds like someone who wants to quit, a HUGE first step.  You should feel good about that!  And you have someone around who wants to help, let him help you. start a new post here and get some support from the people here.  If you really want to quit, you're on your way...

[casey777]

I have just started reading alot of your stories, WOW, how it sounds just like me.  I have been clean for the past 7 days and it is very hard. I have been taking hydocodone for years now which started with prescribed meds for pain relief.  It got out of hand fast.  It has now cost me my job and alot more.  But with Gods help I am going to beat it.  Just wanted you all to know what a help it has been to know there is life after drug abuse.  Thanks!

[stopthedrs]

I am coming off 12-15 10/325 norco a day.  I had massive migranes which after 3 years of treating them with medication I decided i wanted a change.  I went to a specialist and found out the entire problem was a broken nose and sinus problems.  I had surgery 2 weeks ago to alleviate the problem.  That brings me to my next problem.....  I have to withdraw fromt the pills.  It has been 48 hours and I feel horrible.  I tapered down to 7.25 and then 5 mg pills, but today I feel horrible again.  I am hoping someone can tell me how I can get through this. and how long it will last?  I have read several posts about finding a detoxx clinic.  in my area there are none.  I have heard valium helps with the detox but how does someone get it?  
To make matters worse I went to the mailbox this morning and in a small town of 6 doctors mine sent me a letter stating he will not see me any longer.  I have never done anything except take the medicine how he prescribed it.  2 every 4 hours, refilled every 6 days.  I am confused, tired, achey (achy) and wanting relief.  I refuse to take any more medicine.

please help.....

[bmc1976]

You need to post a new thread. At the top of the page click on "post a question". Doing this will have a thread dedicated to you. The thread you posted to is kind of old and you may get overlooked. There are many wonderful people on here that will help you through this.

[bmc1976]

You need to post a new thread. At the top of the page click on "post a question". Doing this will have a thread dedicated to you. The thread you posted to is kind of old and you may get overlooked. There are many wonderful people on here that will help you through this.

[mrsinpain]

I have chronic back, shoulder and neck pain and I was taking norco 10/325 for a year until it wasn't helping with my pain and I was taking too much, I don't want to get addicted to Norco, but I think I was already, my doctor just put me on a new pain medicine and I am having intense headaches that my strong headache medicine isn't even taking away. Help! What is going on? I am really hurting!!! Is this withdrawals from the Norco or is this something else?
Thanks
Mrs. In pain

[HaileysMomma]

I have been battling this damn addiction to Oxycontin and Methadone for going on 5 years now...I cant do it anymore....I am not a user that does it to "get high" When I started out I was using quite a bit for my age and size of the Oxycontin...I changed to Methadone and was down to 5 mg a day....I ended up quitting cold turkey...i did some of an oxycontin saturday night around 5pm and it is now 3:30 in the morning (Tuesday)...I have not slept AT ALL and I dont think I can do this anymore...During the day I suprisingly dont feel too bad...Last time I tried to quit I had severe symptoms and made it to day 2 but it seemed soooo much worse. I was taking the same amount of methadone the only different thing Im doing now is eating very healthy taking multivitamins....The one thing that makes me feel like Im going to die is at night when I lay in bed I cant stay still and I get to the point where Im crying so hard......This is terrible....I just want to take enough of something to help me sleep but then it will just start all over again. I really do want to quit...Im better than this and I need to do this for myself. I have 2 little girls that need a mom thats not a drug addict. Just imagine having NO sleep for 3 days and taking care of a 3 month old and a 3 year old. My family is helping me with the 3 year old but my baby is too attatched to me for her to go anywhere. I know it would be easier on me if I let her go stay somewhere for a night but I cant...shes only 3 months old..I can deal with the no energy and stomach pains an all that but seriously how long does this intense pain stay in your legs...I feel like theres bugs crawling through them and I cant stay still....I could last much longer on no sleep....How long is this going to last? I am scared Im going to fail........

[Kristen9456]

Hello, my name is Kristen.  I am here because I have finally began my path to getting clean off of vicodin.  I am on my fourth day, and quit cold turkey from taking at least 10 or more 750 mg vicodins a day for about 2 years.  The first 2 days were hard physically but I got through them but now what is the hardest is the mental pain.  I am depressed as hell, I cry all the time and I just want to be happy.  Has anyone else had this happen and do you know how long it will continue on?

[gincgoo]

I have been with my boyfriend for almost 9 years. When I got pregnant  with our first son, after being together for 3 1/2 years, my boyfriend, brother, and best friend got addicted to pain pills, just lortabs, vicodins, percocets, somas, you know anything they could get their hands on, but mostly from this big shot drug dealer, who owned a gas station around the corner. Well one day this dealer introduced Oxycontins to my family, and yes it all went down hill from there. While I was pursueing my RN license, my family was snorting oxys. I had an 8 month old son and my boyfriend had pawned everything from jewlery, to the air conditioner, he lost his job, then he sold his car for a bag of pills. I left. I moved into my moms and told her everything. My boyfriend promised he would quit, he just wanted us back. He went to 14 day outpatient program 2 times, didn't make it either time. He was gonna go into 30 day inpatient program, didn't do it.  I didn't trust him anymore, so many lies. I did come visit him often and I saw him try to quit cold turkey, I thought he was gonna die. The vommiting, paleness, sweats, shivering and then hot, not eatting. Losing alot of weight. It was the worst thing I have ever whittnessed. Then I came over the next day and he was fine, the house was clean, he was in a good mood, and he had pin point pupils. I hated him for doing this again to me and my son. I also could understand because I saw how sick he was the day before. Then his dad died of a heart attck at age 46. He needed me so bad, but I couldn't be around him while he was on pills. It pretty much got to the point if he was feeling good and happy then I hated him, if he was pale and sick in bed, then I loved him. This couldn't go on. I told him to quit calling me, we had to stay apart. It hurt too bad, because at one time he was perfect, he was my sole mate. He delt with his dads death alone, and I guess that was finally rock bottom, his family left him, his dad died, he didn't have a car, a job, he was about to lose the house we were buying. So he went to the methadone clinic. 2 weeks later he came to me and told me he was on methadone, got his job back, and felt better than he had in a long time. I didn't move back in for another 2 months, making sure this methadone thing was gonna work. It seemed like it was, so my family was put back together, minus my best friend who lost her house, car, son, boyfriend, and still is using to this day and my brother who just robbed a publix pharmacy for over 2000 oxys, and is now in a mental institution weaning off of suboxin and oxys- Oh let me tell you that looks fun! My boyfriend took the methadone for a little over a year, at 77$ a week, which was taking that from our family but it was cheaper than 700$ a week. I would sit out in the car some mornings at the methadone clinic while he was in there, and I would count the people pouring into this place, it was AMAZING! I even brought my calculater once and was multiplying all the people x's 77$ a week. They must have been making millions! Then after a year or so of methadone, my boyfriend told me he was gonna wean himself off. So he stopped paying and they started cutting him down. He seemed a little sick, but okay. And life was back to how it used to be. Finally! By then I was an RN, so I made good money, plus he always paid the mortgage. Never had to worry about that and I didn't worry about where he spent the rest of his money either. I knew he wasted alot of it at convient stores, but money was never a problem again once he got off the drugs. He has been clean off of drugs and methadone now for 1 year and 3 months. I am now pregnant with our 2nd son and we lived happily ever after. Don't I sound stupid. Last month, this past mothers day, I went to my jewlery box to get my diamond MOM necklace to wear to our family dinner and all my gold, all my diamonds, every thing of value was gone, even my dead grandmas wedding ring. I have a brother and ex best friend who are both drug addicts, and it very well could of been one of them, but I knew in my heart who it was. How could he do this to me again? I am even pregnant again. He was the one who wanted another baby, it was his idea. He even knew my garndma just died and left me that ring. These Mother F****** Drugs again!!!!!!!!! After about half an hour of lies and excuses he told me the truth. He didn't really wean himself off the methadone, he got kicked out because his drug screen came back dirty. So he's been on drugs ever since. He's been lying to me for a total of the last 6 years. Yesterday I watched him withdrawl because he got all his money ripped off, it was fathers day. He never opened any of the presents our 4 year old son so proudly wrapped, and helped pick out at the store. This morning he looked liked like s*** again white, sweaty, puking, up all night. He just called his his boss and asked to get his paycheck early, and is driving out ther now to get it. Then we all know where he's going. My baby is due in 12 weeks. Should I make the call to my mom? Should I pray he gets arrested on the way home with the pills? Should I pack and leave when he goes to work? Should I stay and help him get through this agian? He's such a A****** when he's detoxing. He just called me and asked me for the methadone clinics phone number. See he wants to do the right thing, but I just don't know anymore. If I leave and move to my moms and tell her the whole story, my whole family will hate him. I love him. I can't do this anymore. I have never felt so alone. I hate him. I love him.

[scaredmommie]

ok now i have been weaning for about a week now and each day is getting easier i notice my self wanting it less and less and what i found helped is i am drinking 2 energy drinks a day it helped mw with the withdrawls a little bit and it toke away the extreme tiredness and from being hyper all day im sleeping at night if you wanna try this i recoment monster or amp they seem to be working the best see my addiction wasnt to bad nor was it for that long but addiction is still addiction no matter what and im so proud of myself and another thing is i have my husband helping me he is in control of my pills no me so there is no temptation of sneeking one here or one there.

[headhunterxxx]

i`a,m rick a been taking vicks about 1.5 yrs. for back pain trying to get of  the bad bad !!! pills.just stated today but i took some to start takeing less and less each day will this work or no i need some other plan??

[1NiceBlonde]

Can anyone help me, I have read a few posts but alot of the drugs you talk about are not available in Canada. My Son is addicted to Oxycontin a drug I take on a daily basis for chronic pain. I went into taking it myself knowing I would be on the drug for the rest of my life, It's a matter of pain management and being able to function. I only found out about my son's addiction this week I knew but didn't realise how bad it was till I had to go pay for my Jewelry he pawned. He has asked me to help him he has tried to get off the drug but has not been able to. He thinks he can take one a day for a week then come off completely I don't think this will work and I think he will still have withdrawl symptoms when he stops in a week. I am going to let him stay with my mom for a week till he's ready to come off then I'll stay there with him while he goes thru withdrawl. He seems to think this is the best way and that once the drug is out of his system he'll be fine. What is the best way for someone to do this at home and on his own. And personally I don't think he is being realistic believing his craving will go away once the drug is out of his system. I have never dealt with someone detoxing or going thru withdrawl so any help anyone can give me I would appreciate. Thanks

[bull172]

Thats a fckd up story......reading that story just took whatever urges i had in me and put them to sleep


i feel for you......your boyfriend is not well....HE DOES NOT WANT TO E THIS WAY!  HE IS SICK!  HE NEEDS FAMILY...SUPPORT SYSTEM AND MOST OF ALL  HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL IMPATIENT CARE!

DONT DESERT HIM....HE IS SICK!

ITS A DISEASE!

[headhunterxxx]

tkis rick i`am on day 3 i`am doing have good i got last night but do pills that a hard thing not to do.i been this one pill my wife takes it is GAPAPENTIN 800MG ONE TWO TIME A DAY it seem to for my stomach pain alot but it`s still other pill,but it help me into the bad bad pill is gone!!! i also got high on some pot just hit it work and i`am not pot or any other smoker but it work just one day at a time
  

                         I`AM NOT VERY GOOD TALKER OR WRITER BUT I`AM TRYING
                               SEE YOU GUYS SOON HAVE A GOOD DAY TO DAY TRIP

[houston0619]

Hello.  I am starting my life today without taking any V's.  I have taken off and on for the past 2 years usually no more than 4-5 a day.  I am tired of searching for refills and for always worrying that I am running low or running out altogether.  So I made up my mind today, took my last pill and will do my best to quit.  

[headhunterxxx]

it rick here i`am on 6th. day i`am still clean it`s still hard but i thing it might workout but it`s still one at a time still.


               SEE YOU GUYS LATER HOPE TO HEAR FROM SOME OF YOU GUYS

LATER: RICK

[headhunterxxx]

hi it`s rick here on my 8th day from the bad bad vicks doing real good so far but it`s still one day at a time also i`am going outside doing more thing that i used to do like rideing my atv and taking to more people



LATER:RICK

[headhunterxxx]

hey it`s rick here i`am my 9th day without any pills at all doing every thing geting out to the movies and on my atv going fishing it`s the best day so far but one day at time still see you guys later???????????????????



LATER:RICK

[Royale606]

Good job so far! Keep it up..  This post goes back to 2002 so there's probably not too many people coming in to read it.. Luckily i popped in to see that no one was responding to you and i wanted to know that i'm keeping tabs here.

Let us now how things continue..

[GoingToMakeIt]

Thanks Royale
Rick, to get better response. Try starting new post at the top 'Post a Question'
That way we can answer your questions. Sorry this got overlooked.

[Bel2006]

OK, i have been researching on the net how long withdrawls take from "lortab"hydrocodone" watson" I guess they are basically the same, I have been taking pills consistantly for about a year, actually a week in aug 2007 i went without pills, and i didnt realize i was addicted, but i couldnt sleep, i had vicious restless leg, and it wasn't until my mom told me it was withdrawls that I was like WOW, if i was smart, i would have ended it there because I was already done for days, but nooo, I wanted to get high, and kept the party going, i would take between 5-7 a day for a few months, then over the past months I was up to 10 10mg watsons, sometimes 12, but I have lost my connection, and i have been reduced to 2-3 a day over the past days, and i have one more pill left for tomorrow, and then I am done, i have no way to score, and i dont want to, its like my body is saying yes!! and my mind is like"you're an idiot!!" i really want to be done with the pills, i have so much in life to look forward too, i'll be done with school next year, i have a good job, yet i am always broke!!! "go figure" these damn pills have ruined my life!!!!! and i want my life back!! i was in a car accident a year ago, and i suffered a permanent clavical injury, and i dont want that to be my pill popin excuse, because i know that i was abusing them, and i wasnt taking just for pain!! i liked the high, i'll be the first to admit it, but i think i've been high long enough, and it is time to get back to who i used to be! i would really like to know how long you all think my withdrawls might last?? i hope it will only be 2-3days, ????? what do u all think? i have no one to talk to about this, and i need some help!!  =(

[Royale606]

you'd better plan for about 5 days or so. Since you seem to have done a quick taper there you shouldn't be too too bad. Just don't let your mind tell you that you're feeling worse than you are. The problem with withdrawal is that your mind can blow things way out of proportion and make you feel worse than you really are. Try to take a step back every few hours and ask yourself, "am i really feeling that bad" I bet you can remember an illness when you were younger where you felt even worse. (Perhaps strep throat or the likes). Just hold on for a few days and you'll start feeling better and better from there on out. Know that some of us have been much deeper in things and are taking care of ourselves. At my worst point i was chewing up OC 40's (up to 14/day) that's 560mg a day and i was able to break free of the ****... Let us know how things go!!

[headhunterxxx]

thanks for the post i`am on my 13th day without any pills i`am doing the best and i`ve been doing in a long time.and you are right about your mind playing trick on your body!! i will be back on another day guys.



LATER:RICK

[Josephina559]

Well today is my first time on the site and i love it. Well i am an Vicodion addict sad to say.. Ive had gotten in 2 car wrecks and now i have 2 injurd discs.. They gave me Vicocion, Trimodal, Tylenol with codien, Somas, Darvocette. Everything well i got too depentant on Vicodion Ive been taking them for about a year.. The sad thing about it is i am only 17.. And i dont want to take them anymore. Today is my 2nd day with out them. I just got a bottle of 90 pills and flushed them.. ive been taking 7.5 mg started with 500.. taking about 10 a day..
Its so hard i feel anxious and sweaty and want some so bad. Thanks to the help of my boyfriend hes trying his best to help me.. Since my mom is no help. She was a very bad herion addict and she goes around saying im a pill popper and drugie. I said something i wish i never said. I told her Drug abuse runs in herity so if anything i got it from you. And i am so sorry for that. But she just doesnt understand i am trying to stop taking them and she brings me negativity witch makes me want to take moore to get away. I dont know But this is the hardest thing ive ever have to go through.. Im just praying to god i can do it..!!

[jc9924]

I had been taking Vicodin 10/500 for over 2 years 12 to 15 a day
I'm on day 5 without any. it was rough at first and still is at times but to me the biggest issue is your mind making you feel it is worse than it actually really is. I'm lucky I have support from my wife and kids I'm not religious but I have really got to know God these last few days and I find that when it gets really tough I recite the Lords Prayer to myself and it comforts me in thinking I can get through this. Good Luck to all of you keep telling yourself you can do this and you can...

[Josephina559]

Today is my 5th day without vicodion and wow do i feel amazing. I wake up everymorning and sit up and im like wow i dont feel like ****. I dont have to wake up and feel like complete **** and take another pill.. I am so happy.. I knew i can do it. It was the hardest thing EVER. There is time like 5 minutes ago i had a craving i was like man im going to the fair today with my dad and i wanna be high.. But the other part of me was like but if i get high im gunna regret it tomarrow. So i decided not to.. Im just gunna enjoy being high off life.. My mom has noticed a biiig change and so have i.. The first couple days she took me to walmart i seriously diddnt feel like walking so i got one of those car baskets and she laughed at me because she knew i had noooo energy.. Shes starting to act diffrent towards me and i know its because she knows i am trying. I can never ever be so much happier..!!!!! So If i can do it you can do it.. BE STRONG!!!

[Coolio Hernendez]

Yup 1 is to many and 10000 aint enough.........Doesnt the 5/500 and the 10/650's just kill your kidneys.....My lower back and sides hurt so bad when i took em....that i would rather have withdrawals......10/325 now that's my drug of choice.

[brando273]

Hey guys, doesnt look like this forum is used much anymore, but i was taking hydrocodone for what seems like 8 or 9 months and im on my second day of being clean, but geez if i would have known it would end like this with the chills, no sleep and the constant stomach pains well i woudl never had tried it at all, i have a question since ive never been addicted to drugs before nor have i taking any other drugs during the withdraw stage is it normal to be paranoid?

[oompahing]

Hopefully you are through the hard part now and haven't relapsed.  It will all get better in 7-14 days (3-4 weeks for sleep).  I gotta chime in on suboxone......total devil drug.  I have detoxed probably 7-8 times (but have been clean now for quite awhile).  My doctor got me to try suboxone and it was worse coming off than vics/percs.  Prior to jumping off, I was down to a tiny crumb of the sublingal pill a day and it still was absolutley horrible.  The leg movement and cramps were so bad that my joints ached for weeks after becasue I was flexing so hard.  All of the normal symptoms were extremely amplified.  I was on it for 6 weeks total and it was by far the worst decision I ever made. PLEASE BE CAREFUL AND I DON"T RECOMMEND.  

What I do recommend that helps with many symptoms is clonodine.  it won't help with sleeplessness and actually makes you a bit more tired on top of the normal no energy symptom.  What it helped me with was eliminate/reduce chills, hot and cold tendencies, panic, anxitey and reduced diarhea (diarrhea).

In short....the whole process ***** but you can do it and will be stronger as a person after you successfully will your self through the process

I wish you all luck, peace, and love

[MominCali]

I am a Mother of two and Norco was my drug of choice. It kept me going and I could get up with my kids in the morning. And do a little extra five things through out the day. Then at night I would bake with my daughter and then I would put her to bed. That was my day. I was taking anywhere from six to nine a day just to get me through it. I was on Vicoden for three years before the Norco. I was on the Norco for about a year, until I told the doctor I LIKED THEM!!!! Then she sent me to a detox clinic and they gave me four meds that made me drowsy. How could I be a mom like that? So I didn't take them. I haven't taken anything for three weeks now and my hands won't stop sweating!!!! I did start to get migraines after I stopped taking everything.
I know I'm going cold turkey right now but It's so unfair to my Husband and my kids that I just want some more to get to where I was but I haven't. I sleep in and I'm just not interested in the things that I used to do, like bake cookies with my daughter. She's four. I want to know how long this is going to take to get out of my system. I hate this and I hate what it's doing to my Family. Even my Husband said he liked me better when I was taking Norco. It made me happier and more functional. Now I'm a mess and depressed all the time. I don't even want to get up in the morning with my kids to make them breakfast anymore. I'm feeling like a bad mom. What to do???
If anyone can give me advice on how to handle this. That would be great. Because I know after this is done me and my Family will be happier. I still do crave it and not sure how to control the cravings. I am also taking breaks so the computer pad doesn't get sweaty. Please help me,
Mom in Cali.

[MominCali]

Does anyone wonder why Doctors prescribe addictive medications? I know the pain is there and it's a quick fix for the pain but after a year or two don't you think they should be like 'so what's going on' ? No they just keep refilling the Rx. So of course your going to get more because no one is asking questions. RIGHT? Had to add that in.
MominCali

[Timmer66]

Been clean and sober for almost 9 years but screwed my back up 11/2 yrs ago and been on Vic (Norcos) all through the time. Did the epidural shots, no help there. Now I ask myself 'Do I really need these meds?'. Well, time to find out. Dropped from 4 to 2 (day 2 almost over), I know it sounds like cake compared to some of you, still tough of course, and am planning the end for Vic to see how bad my back 'really' hurts. Detoxed from other **** before (alcohol several times) so I know the routine. Active member of AA since sober and now it's time to go thru the withdrawel **** again. Should've known better but my back does hurt. But is it bad enuff to fight with the Vics all the time? Probably not. Peace to the rest of you and I can tell you from past histories that it can be done if you want to do it. Period.      Thanks for being here..

[Timmer66]

How selfish could I be but to drive right by your post to drop one of my own. Talk about alcoholic thinking (but I don't drink anymore, that's the ism in alcoholism). Go to an NA meeting MorninCali, and meet people who feel like you do, and the other people who have the answers you're looking for. Works like a charm. And you'll make the best of friends and begin having the best of times of your life. It's in the 'promises', (and I have experienced this through the years, though AA has been my mainstay for 8 yrs, while I did AA and NA for just over my first year clean and sober) If I remember right, NA has carried the promises just as AA does. Please go to some meetings and live life. I'll be around here and there to check on you.

[worried878]

This is an old post..from2002 that you guys have posted on...it is better to post a new question to get attn to ur needs


as far as why docs continue to  prescribe.narcotics for a while..not to defend the bad, bad doctor,as most are wonderful,  but most patients do not become addicted....it is in the warnings with each scrip and as adults, it is our responsibilty to let the doctor know we are having a problem/that we like then too much or that we are abusing them..they are not psychics and do not always know these things unless we tell them

I am sorry ur energy is in the gutter as that was my main wd symptom that really made my recovery hard...as i am a go-er.....time heals....aminos like tyrosine help..read the thomas recipe to help ur brain heal..exercise pushes those endorphins out of ur screaming brain ./..it is not used to producing without the artificial "pump" that u have now taken away and poured in on a daily basis for a time...give ur brain a chance to hel...2-3 months minimum to feel the depression lft....support groups right now like AA or NA are so crucial

[Timmer66]

Thanks for stopping by. I agree with your comment with 'doctors' and 'responsibility'. I do think they could do a better job of explaining  the withdrawel risks, but I think most of us know once we take the first pill that there's something powerful going on, and there are probably repercussions. But thank God for pain doctors, who can help those who have no other solution. I think that I am one that can do without, and so far my back isn't screaming, so the fight goes on. I hope you're doing OK MominCali, and I hope you've got a meeting lined up for tonight. And if you don't like one meeting, try another one somewhere else. You'll find the ones that you like. Peace and love.        T

[lsloan330]

I have sat here for about an hour reading everyone's post from years ago.  But, I went through the same thing you did.  The epidurals, I even had nerves cauterized in my spine.  I have been on Lortab or Norco for no less that 7 years, non-stop.  I am on day 3 of getting off of them.  I don't feel as bad as I thought I would.  I have been weening myself off for over 2 months.  Just going a little longer between doses.  I would watch the clock!!  I mean to the minute! I have a doctor that prescribes these to me without seeing me.  I see him once a year and he gives me 100 a month.  I used to brag about it!! Now, I think it's sick, because I know there are other things I can do than have this damned addiction!  I asked him for help and he said, "eh, you're not that bad." Jeez, thanks.

Well, here's day 3, I hope I make it to day 14!!

L

[jb4030]

On day 2 of withdrawl from 10/500 hydro.  Was taking 6-8 daily for the last 11 months maybe missing a total of 5 days during that time.  Of course I feel like hell and do not want to do anything even as simple as shaving.  I am out of town working and ran out of my supply but have plenty waiting for me when I get home in around 8 days.  My question is do you really feel that much better after withdrawl than you would taking them.  I will be without them for 10 days no doubt but have plenty when I get home.  It is possible that after 10 days without I might have the will not to use when I go home.  From the many who have overcome please lend some advice.

[cathy5841]

hi jb, this is a very old post...please copy and paste this in a new thread so you will get some answers...just use the post a question button on the top of this post.  in order to stay off the pills you got to really want to be clean.  if you have pills waiting and you are serious about quitting i suggest you call..BEFORE YOU GET HOME..and cancel it.  as addicts of we are able to get them we will use them...you can do this..but you have to be willing to pay the price to be clean...that means working at it...cutting off all supplies.

[Michelle132]

Im currently taking Narcos for a neck injury and reading all this scares the hell out of me. Im in pain from a ex husband that stomped on my neck a year ago and doctors have me on Narcos 6 a day. It started with 8 a day. Im ok with the 6 daily but the thought of me running out of these is scary. I dont even want these withdrawls. Ive been through the chills and sweats before but not for long. Im addicted but I also need these pills for pain so now what? Michelle

[Timmer66]

If you read through the posts you will find your answers. As Cathy and Worried stated above, this is an older post and you may find more help by posting a new question. Otherwise I found all the answers related to w/d listed in the above posts. Remember you can always consult your physician or get another opinion from a different physician. Take it easy and one day at a time.

[GF1142]

I am in my first day of pain killer withdrawals. I took between 15 and 20 a day of either percs or vics i just wanna know what im in for. Last night was the longest night of my life i really hope it gets better

[bobbynight]

My name is Bobby, my Fiancee has been taking anything she could get her hands on for months... the sad part is she was doing it while she was pregnant with our 2nd son.  her and i both were users for a while but when she got pregnant i got clean and tried to get her to as well. it didnt work so well, our son was born addicted to opiates, granted by the time he was born she was down to 2 or 3 a day.  he was in the pediatric unit in the hospital for 6 days.  she works in a drug store so she knew the clients who werent really taking there meds and got them from them.  she is now in her 3rd day at an inpatient detox, when she went inshe was taking over 30 either 10/660 or 10/325  day and i know her detox is going to be horrible! but i know it's the best thing for her and for us.  theres really not a point to my comment i just needed to vent.  I''ll keep you updated on her progress, she can only call once a day for 5 minutes and its tough to talk to her and hear her in pain and crying then have her talk to out 5 year old and have him ask where mommy is and why she's crying!!  long nights await us all, but together soon!!

[ndig]

I am up at night on my fourth night of no pills - The insomnia is pretty bad - I am very tired but feel as if I have electric currents running through my body at sparadic times - I tapered off the drug and was even prescribed Librium to help which I can't take (terrible heartburn) I was having anxiety attacks - trouble breathing heart beating as fast as I have ever felt it - but let me just say one thing I know for sure - as much as it is physical - it is much more mental - you have to have the right mind to fight this addiction - I have 50 10/325 oxycodones in my dresser - but I refuse to take the easy way out once I have made up my mind to be done - you are the only one in the end who can make this happen - use your mind and fight - youcan crush these pills with your bare hands - but you must crush this addiction with your MIND - God Bless and good luck battling this plauge our goverment has let be unleashed on the population - Be stronger then the pills

[Badcard]

So here we go.  I have 120 five-milli norcos left.  My wife who is an R.N. is now at work going through terrible detox because we are separated and I found out she had cheated on me with a doctor multiple times.  The Norco problem for both has been  our problem and has led to the demise of our marriage.  It still doesn't justify what she did, and I told her I could not even be her friend anymore, even for our kids.  I was going to help her withdrawal, but I want her to suffer like I have suffered.  I am a loving father who worked 60 to 70 hours a week to provide for my family.  We both started drinking beer to enhance the buzz, and I started to drink Vodka also.(my poor liver).  She was always a lazy person and never cleaned or cooked.  I did it all on top of work. About 4 years ago I started lashing out at her calling her lazy.  She never swept, only cleaned the toilets about 10 times in nine years, and never cooled.  It was the truth and everyone saw it(family and friends), but the vodka made me mean.  She has taken the kids and moved, and actually lied and told me she was off of them.  She lied to make herself look good and to make me look like an addict(which is true but so is she).  I get them from a doctor because I have a bad back and have had two surgeries.  But she began to take them from me.  I actually had to go back to work 3 weeks after back surgery for money reasons, and she had taken half of my pills(wonder why I yelled at her).  She got caught stealling them from family, and I had to cry to them to keep them from calling the cops and getting her RN license taken away.  I know right at this very moment she is at work COMPLETELY SUFFERING, and I love it.  It may sound mean, but she has broken my heart and soul, and I am afraid I will never to be able to trust anyone EVER again.  I've only been taking 6- 5millis a day, and stating tomorrow I'm going to ONLY take on when the withdrawal starts.  These little white demons have tore my family apart and I am done.  I want to be normal again.  I am going to go get vitamins and amino acids and a big bag of weed.  I stopped smoking a year ago and the pill problem got worse.  If anyone has any advice please let me know.  I have to be strong for my kids and me.  **** her.  The drinking will be hard to stop too, but I truly believe the only reason I drink so much is because it amplifies the hydro buzz.  Please pray for me to be strong, I have a whole script that I need to use to help my heart, and not my head.

[dopey102]

i am new to this site found by fooling around online, currently on day 2 of withdrawl for hrydo as well as any pain meds i can get ahold of, have a liget scrip for back pain 2 compressed discs,  started taking consitently about a year ago like the doc said 1 10mg hydro 3 times a day, within last 4months have been eating a 30 day scrip in 5 days and then spending all my free time finding ways to get mor until next dr. visit. the withdrawl as never been this bad as i have been through it a few times in the last 2 months however never making past about 5 days i think it maybe worse this time as a friend gave me 10 12mcr/hr fentynal patches when my hydros were gone they should have lasted 21 days but made it about a week now i am in hell. the hardest part has been the carzy insomnia i have not slept but 2 hours in 2 days. does any now how to get any sleep without taking any thing addictive. i have a very addictive personality.  this animal has it's teeth in me and like a pit bull will not let go

[Aprilia1000]

Hey dopey i know what you are goin through.Do not **** around with fentanyl,its 25 times more powerful than morphine.You want to wake up dead?I was addicted to prescriced meds-vicodin.I was taking 14 pills a day.I went through 5 days of hell and about 2 weeks with declining symptoms after that.I was hospitalized.I was so ****** up i went to the emergency room.I wanted to die it was so bad.Not just the physical part but worse than that is the CRUSHING depression that follows.You have to be strong and force yourself clean.If you are injured get the injury repaired or surgery.Anything to avoid the drugs.Try naproxen 550mg twice a day.it helped me when i injured a disk and its non narcotic.Just remember no matter how bad you feel now its not permanent.Stay away from opiates and you will be normal and happy again.Just give it a month,it may take that long

[icandoitfor09]

Hi everyone..i have been on and off this site for da past three days..I have been detoxing for about 2 days.. I have been taking hydrocodone 10 for about 5 years. I am only 23 and i regret the day i put that first one in my mouth. I'm tired now..i am becoming broke trying to buy the drug off the street. I use to try to beat the withdrawals in the morning when i didnt have anymore and run to buy them. Well, its a recession now..and i have more important things to buy with my money. I have to stop. Today is tuesday..1 day from 2009..and i have promised myself a better new year.The last time i used, it was sunday night..I took 2 percocets that i got from someone cause i couldnt get my hands on the hydrocodone. I was taking like 4 pills a day. 2 in the morning and 2 at night. I never went over 2 out of fear if i had to actually withdraw. I was in a bad car accident in 2007 but i was taking them before then. i started like the end of 2003. I have never missed a day without them until now. I am on my second day and i must admit its better than the first 24 hours. That was pure hell. Today i jus had a lot of Stomach pain and trips to the bathroom. I have just been taking my muscle relaxers and tylenol to help with my pain.

Whats confusing is i actually have real pain. My L5 in my spine is shifted to the left and my C spine is shaped like a L. My insurance is crappy and no pain doc will take it. I have a primary but he wont give me pain killers..he says im too young. any way..im stopping for the new year and this site is helping a lot..here is my symptoms from da beginning:

Day 1
Craving hydrocodone
Restless leg syndrome
Pain in my neck (probably real)
Chills/Hot and cold sweats
Extreme Fatigue
Yarning a lot
Achey (achy)
Insomnia

Day 2
Fatigue
Leg Pain/RLS
Chills
Hot/Cold Sweats
Diarreah
Stomach Cramps
Light Cravings
Insomnia

So so far thats how its been..I have been taking showers like crazy..Hot showers help alot. I watch a movie or web search to keep my mind off da pain. I take tylenol and i jus popped a multivitamin after reading that it helps on this site.I sleep with my bible and tell myself that tomorrow will be better. My sister came over and tried to offer me 2 hydrocodones and i said NO!. She pulled them out and i took one look at them and remembered my pain from yesterday.. I said HELL NO!!!
I can't go thru this again..cause when those two go..it will repeat itself. Be smart people. I know it hurts..hell im only in my second day but..i keep telling myself MIND OVER MATTER..remember..if i come up with more ways i will post them..be strong and dont give up...cause if u dont..and post it...i wont when i read it...remember that..We're helping each other!

[hoss2009]

Hello everyone.

I am currently on day 5 of no hydros or pot and I am truly going through hell.

I can't eat, sleep, take care of my daughter.. nothing.

I made the mistake of using Suboxone (non prescribed) for a couple weeks (they made me feel great with no buzz). This past Sunday I decided not to take the Suboxone and went and bought 4 10mg hydros. I took them with a few beers and felt a little guilty. I thought to myself.. "ok you screwed up.. just dont do it again".

Well.. the next day at work I saw a co-worker who always has hydros. I prayed that he wouldn't offer any and he didn't. As soon as he left my office I took a doctor prescibed Revia to insure that I wouldn't slip up 2 days in a row.

The Revia threw me into full blown withdrawal within 30 minutes. I put a note on my bosses door and left. I honestly don't know how I made it home. I got home pretending to have the flu and went to bed. I managed to sleep a little but felt like I was dying. This is the worst withdrawal ever. I am too weak to type right now so I will end this comment here.

Someone please pray for me. I almost feel suicidal. I just want my life back. The life I had before I became a slave to drugs. This is pure hell.

I need to return to work on Monday or do something drastic to fix this problem (such as going to the ER and being admitted).

[Htownnofrown]

I stayed clear of drugs in highschool, but went off to college and got in with the wrong group of people. Over the last 3 years I started taking hydrocodone, almost always recreationally, for one reason or another. It started out as taking 3 or 4 10mg's at a time, then 5 to 7, then progressed to 10 at a time. That was when I was what I would still call a recreational user. About 6 months ago, I started using on a daily basis. 10 a day quickly changed to 12, then 12 turned to 15. I want to clarify because when I say "15 a day" I mean 15 at one time, maybe as few as two swallows. I'm a 4th year college student, and I was smart enough to know that what I was doing was destroying my body, mind, and relationships. I quit cold turkey on December 3rd, lasted 4 days before using on and off again, and then went back to daily usage untill Dec. 30, when I swerved off the road and hit a lightpole in my truck. Lucky for me, I have understanding parents who allowed me to move in with them under the agreement that I stay clean. I am on day 4 again and just want to share my progress/failures.  

Days 1 and 2 are the worst for me, I never puke but diarreah, headaches, lazyness, and interrupted sleep are the most noticeable symtpoms of my withdrawl.

Day 3, the diarreah somewhat ceased but then I felt constipated and gaseous. The headaches were still there but not as bad. Still not much more than an hour or two of seep without waking up and tossing/turning.

Day 4, still feel constipated but I imagine that will go away soon. My outlook on life is starting to look up, but it's still hard to get motivated for work or doing taxing things. Tried to workout a little but am afraid to run because last time I did, my kidneys hurt pretty bad.

To all detoxing: You can do it! We can do it! Cold turkey may not be the method for everyone, but I'd encourage it because I know how I felt, I just needed to be dependent on myself, my family, and God. Pray, meditate, get support, counseling, anything to ensure that you heal yourself from this affliction.

Hoss, I hope you can talk to someone about your depression, suicide is not the answer, it will only cause much more pain in the lives of the ones you love, leading to God knows what addictions they may pick up to cope with the pain of losing you. I'll be checking in over the next month to post my progress and hope you find peace in the knowledge that once you are free from this, you will not feel bad at all. A stupidly simplistic phrase summed it up for me, "No pain, no gain".

[icandoitfor09]

To all of u stay strong...when its over you will feel so lively...so energetic..rejuvenated..OMG...so dam FREEEEEEEEE. You have no idea how it feels to not depend on drugs to live a normal life. It hurts like hell now...but give it 5 days..jus 5..and u will feel the difference. Each day it gets better...i promise..Hot showers...aleve..and a few drinks..(jus dont get addicted to the alcohol, u can actually die from withdraws from alcohol).
Pray and just live life...OMG..take a multivitamin everyday, it helps sooo much. You gotta BE STRONG..think of it like this...WOULD U LET SOMEONE COME TAKE UR FAMILY AWAY AND NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?  NOOO...ur gonna fight..for ur spouse, ur kids, and whoever else!!!! You will be determined to win because thats ur family. Your goin to fight that intruder until u win or ur gonna die tryin!!!!

Well think of this intruder as Hydrocodone...Dont let it take u away from ur family!!! Fight for what u got..and show it that u r in charge of ur body!!!

Fight!!!!!YOU DONT NEED IT...AS A MATTER OF FACT..IT DOESNT EXIST!!!!

im praying for us all....stay strong!!!

[nomo36]

I have been taking 3 to 7 vikodin a day for 2years, im on my 7 day cold turkey, im over the leg pain and insomnia but am still tired and dont have any motovation. can someone tell me how much longer before im good?

[sweets13]

This is my first time here. I have Scoliosis degenerative disk disease and 2 herniated disks. My husband was steped on by a bull. And he also has a birth defect in his lower spine. I have been on pain meds perscribed by my Dr for a year and a half now. Taking a max of 6 a aday. They just last month changed my meds from Hydrocodone to percocet. My husband has been on the percs for about 6 months now. we have been out of meds for 27 hours now and I tell you what this *****. I have 2 kids oldest is 7 and the youngest is 18 months old. It is so hard to get out of bed and take care of my baby but between the 2 of us we are doing it together. I think the hardest part is trying to detox together. It is all I can do to type this. I can't tell you how many times I have to back space or re read this to make sure it makes sense, I never imagined how hard this would be, How do we get through it together

[hoss2009]

Well... I'm on 34 days of no opiates. 31 days of no pot or alcohol. I wound up in a psychiatric hospital for 5 days because I was having non-stop anxiety attacks.

I have to admit its nice not having to search for opiates.. but damn.. life sure is boring without them. I just have to learn how to settle into this new life I have. Lets face it.. where am I going to buy hydros and pot when I'm 60? It was an unsustainable lifestyle.

I had major depression and anxiety until last sunday (6 days ago). They have lifted for the most part but I just feel so bored. I know I'm doing the right thing.. my wife and daughter need me.

This isn't easy. Anyone who has only dabbled with the opiates.. STOP NOW! That's how I got started and look at what it lead to. The hospital visit was hell. I was a prisioner.

Oh well.. better days are coming... or at least thats what they tell me.

[hoss2009]

I forgot to mention. I have been taking these vitamins called "good days". They can be found at goodlivinglabs.com. My depression seemed to improve within a day off taking these. It could be them or the prozac is starting to kick in. Either way.. these vitamins really seems to be good. And no.. I don't work for the company.. I'm just a former opiate abuser who thinks they might be helping with my mood.

[hoss2009]

I just re-read my last 2 posts and realized they were not very encouraging.

Last weekend my in-laws stayed all weekend because I could not take care of our daughter when my wife was at work.

This weekend.. it hasn't been easy... but I'm doing it. So I guess I have come a long way in 7 days.

I will update my progress next weekend. Time to take my vitamins!

[sicilian]

Anyone familiar with Tramadol? and how long the withdraws last??  I feel like I am going to chatter my teeth right out of my mouth. Tremers are like a #8 earthquake.  I have HepC and now with chronic pain.  Are there any other solutions than Tramadol "maintenance drug addiction"?

[TonyRice11]

Hi everyone.
I started taking vicodins in 2001 then it progressed into 1 a day then after awhile it was 5 a day then it turned into close to 15 to 20 M351 vicodins for about 2 years DAILY 7 days a week with NO breaks! Then I started taking the M363 vics and was taking those regularly for about 2 years. Then  I decided to cut down from the 10's to about 11 a day then pretty soon I was down to about 8 a day "2008" Just a few weeks into 2009 my left leg developed a rash with a few blisters and it started to swell and both my ankles were retaining a lot of fluid and my sister said that my face was "puffy" looking like You would see from some one who drank alot "I have never drank alcohol". Well I got to reading about how acetaminophen "Tylenol" in the vicodins can destroy Your liver and kidneys and that my left leg problem was more than likely from my liver not being able to cleanse the toxins from my system after 6 years of non stop use of taking vicodins. Well that scared the heck out of me and I came down to just 1 and a half of m363 vic then a few weeks later I came down to just one then a little while after that I was down to just a half of a m363. About 3 days ago I quit completely and I am going through the wd but when I really need to rest I take a 5mg Valium and I rest soundly for close to 9 hours. Valiums have really been a life saver, plus knowing that my kidneys and liver will hopefully not dry up like a piece of beef jerkey is motivation enough. Anyone who wants to end their AFUL addiction to these pills can do it. Oh yeah most doctors are getting rich from these drug companies to prescribe these pain pills, most could care less if Your liver or kidneys fizzle out!!!  Good luck to everyone and I hope and pray that You will succeed. Tony

[zeros_vision]

is anyone immune to these horriable physical / emotional addictions?....
i had back surgery on july,3rd of 07....(fusion)
since then i've taken moderate doses (compaired to most who post here) of 10/500 daily, 2,-3, sometimes 4 tabs a day....
mater of fact before the back surg. i was prescribed 120 loritab 10/500 per month...
this went on for 2, maybe 3 years.....i now take around 70 per month, for last 7 years....
i've went without for 4 days, it was AWFULL!!!!!!!!.....
(i gave in after 4 days)

i have a good reason also for NOT wanting to be addicted to this junk....(as we all do)....
people i'm a Christian, i sing in a Christian quartet....
i really do love the LORD, i DO NOT want to be so dependant on this poison....

Fact is; i have a severe cervical problem too, involving C-3,C-4, C-5.....
TWICE i have denied cervical disc fusion surgery.....i would drink my coffee threw a straw, move about much like a robot.......
what did people do with the same problems i have now 100 years ago??????....
how do you deal with this?????....

i want to serve GOD to the best of my ability, but i feel i'm a failure because of my addiction.....
i also take 800mg of neurontin 3x day....PLUS 800mg moltrins, PLUS zanaflex.....
on and on and on......
i want off this junk, but i'm also scared that i couldnt cope with the pain if i were off....
is there anything, anyone may have to suggest for me?.....

[kngig]

Hi everyone,

Today at 5pm is 72 hrs since I had any vics. It's really difficult. I think I have an addictive personality, I drank heavy for many years and was a heavy smoker too. I've been dry for 14 yrs and a non smoker for 3 yrs. But kicking the vics is way tougher. If my head would stop hurting and my vision would be normal I think I could stand the diarrhea.

I started taking them 2 1/2 yrs ago after my first total knee replacement, just had my second one this past Nov.  I've been taking 15-20 5/500 per day for the past 6 mos. I have osteo-arthritis and I'm only 39. I've had it as long as I can remember. I don't know how my liver still works cuz I have took tylenol forever. I almost gave in yesterday and called someone that can get the pills for me, but I'm tired of giving them my money! So i'm really trying to hang in there.  I just hope this isn't how I'm going to feel all the time without them.
Good luck to all who are trying to kick them!

[zeros_vision]

wow......
your post sounds almost exactally like what i would write......
i've been on hydro for years....from 120 10/500 to 60 (month) of the same....
my usage has never been like most posted here, but would have been if i could of gotten it.....
a pharmacy caught me too.....only i was seeing 2 different doctors getting the same med...(hydrocodone)...
one doctor quit me, and the one i'd been with for years told me NOT to do that anymore....i thank GOD i wasnt charged with something...
i've had lumbar fusion in 07, been told i NEED cervical surg., thus far i've denied that twice; scared of it......
i NEVER thought that something like this would have such a hold on me!!!!!....
i'm a Christian, i do love the LORD, but i feel like such a failure because of these medicines, my life is controlled by them, even as i write this.....
longest i've went without is 4 days, i (like everyone else here) thought i would go CRAZY!!!..sooooo i gave in....
i dont know that i could function without pain meds, not just because i've let it get the best of me, but because of spinal injurys i live with....
in 1997 i became dis-abled from a coal mining accident.....
i'm not paralized THANK GOD...i still get around good, pretty much do as i please as long as i have my 10/500s......
ewwwwwwwwww i hate this....no one knows ....then maybe ya do (?)....

please.......how do ya use these exactally as prescribed......i "CANT"!!!!!....
thats what bugs me, these are more powerfull than my will.....
ooooh and DABBY.......i'm 53 years old.....this stuff obviously has no age limits...

[courtney8273]

i am an addict.i love pain pills and am now detoxing.i was cleanmfor 11days then got 3 vicodin so back to day 2.ugh this ***** i feel like im not strong enough to do it.deep down i know God can and will help me through this.i have a wonderful husband and 2 amazing children.thats why i have to stop.i feel like i will never ever be normal again.someone please pray for me.thanks : )



courtney

[hoss2009]

Stay stong! I have been opiate free since Dec 27, 2008. I will admit that is kinda sux. I miss the buzz I would get from hydros.. but I don't miss always chasing down my next dose or blowing money on something that was robbing me of my quality of life.  I have a 10 month old daughter and since quiting opiates I have discovered all that I was missing. I missed out on the first 9 months of her life because I was always popping pills.

I am not a stong willed person when it comes to drugs. I still smoke cigarettes, drink around 3 beers daily, and occasionally smoke a little pot. I just started the pot again about a week ago and am getting ready to give it up again. It is robbing me of my motovation and if my wife were to catch me.. I dont even want to think about it.

I accidentally did a rapid detox.. Hydros mixed with Revia.. I went though 5 days of hell then wound up in a psychaiatric hospital for 5 days. It was horrible. Never again.

You can do it.. just think of how nice your life will be without searching for your next dose.

You CAN do this.

[CRAYZ2BME]

From CRAYZ2BME
I have been on Oxycottins, Roxicodone, Lortab and MS Cottin for more than 5 years. I was taking more than 400mg a day for most of that time. I quit cold turkey last Monday night, March 23. Holly SH** am I sick. My body hurts so damn bad at night I can't sleep more than an hour without waking up. My body feels like it is going through convulsions during the day and night. I have always got my pills legally so I dont even know where to get some if I wanted too. My mind is crazy and I can't focus on things at work. I have serious nervous twitches that hurt like hell.How long till I feel normal again? I have a Dr. appointment tomorrow and I can get more pills if I want them. (Hurniated Discs) L4,L5,L6. My wife is going to be pissed as hell if I get more pills but I cant function in my line of work without serious concentration. Should I try and cut back before going cold turkey?

I have read alot of your posts and it sounds like your withdrawal only lasted for about 4-5 day. It has been 7 for me and I feel just as crappy now as I did on day 3.

Any suggestions?

[bb69]

Go to any primary care physician and ask about suboxone.  research it online first.  It works wonders for withdrawel.  Trust me...I was on extremly high doses of oxycontin and morphine patches, it was bad.  At that point I was just taking them because I was chemically dependent..I was seriously addicted and depressed.  I even went to a 3 day in patient detox and that didnt work.  The great thing about suboxone is its not addictive.  I started taking it in Nov'07, three 8mgs a day and now I'm on 1/2 twice a day!!  I feel so much better its great.  Look suboxone up online!!  INSURANCE COVERS.  No one has to suffer thru withdrawel.

Bea

[bostondan]

im new to this.  name is boston!

addicted to hrdro 10/325.  its been two years and i lost everything.  i been off them for almost four days now.  i want them bad!  i crave them!  you all inspired me to stay strong, thanks!  we will see what happens.

i thought about killing myself a few times knowing i have to get off these.  i ruined my life and now moving back home.  i need to get off these before home cause mom/dad arent dumb.  wish me luck!

[scott_free]

my name is scott and i have been addicted to 5/500 mg vicodin for almost 6 years now.. recently i got in trouble with the law involving my addiction to the drug.. this was all the motivation i needed to say goodbye to my long addiction. i am currently on day two without them and i feel extremely crappy. i am sore, lack of motivation to do anything.. cant sleep, and stomach problems. with all this i still dont really have the urge to do it because i never want to go through this kind of pain again.. i know i still have a long way to go but im taking it one day at a time. i also know the withdrawls will most likely get worse before they get better.. but its just what i have to do.. just wanted to say that reading some of these storys inspired me to stay strong and keep at it so thank you..

[annoymous1]

If you are reading this...Thanks. I had a very bad auto accident where I was hit head on by a drunk driver @4 years ago. I lost one lung, had my aorta repaired and have several operations on my leg all due to the accident. My question is..is it really possible to get of off lortab? I have tried so hard on my own to no avail. I think I could endure the pain in my body but getting off of lortab is so hard. I feel so weak and energy-less when I dont take it on a daily basis. Even after I got out of the hospital I still had lots of energy up until I started taking the lortab so much. Is it possible to really get off the junk and feel good again with good energy? Please be straight with me because I really need some help. Also I was declared disabled and that probably is very true because of all the injuries and I am now on medicare and wondering if maybe the medicare will pay or help me with the detox program if the detox is worth trying. Thanks to all.

[annoymous1]

Hey man that is really great that you have decided to give it all up. Good luck to you and surely things will get better. I hope everything else works out for you also.

[desperation782]

I am on the 2nd day of no lortab ... doc refused early refill.  I'm miserable ... no energy, headache, aches and pains everywhere!  Taking tylenol and motrin but not helping at all.  Please....help me get through this.

[annoymous1]

I commend you for your efforts in getting off the garbage. This may be one of the most painful undertakings you have ever done. However, it will get better SLOWLY day by day. I am not a medical doctor and therefore cannot give you any medical advice but I can tell you what is helping me very well. I am in the same boat as you, I am addicted to Lortab and have been for about 4-1/2 years, taking about 10-12 10/500 Lortabs daily. It is very difficult but maybe this will help you. First get it into your head and deal with the fact that you are not going to be comfortable for several days period. Once you have come to grips with that and accept and understand that your fortitude will drive you on mentally and emotionally to a great degree. As far as taking something to ease the edge of the withdrawal effects I was able to find a few things that help. Stay away from dark liquid drinks with caffeine in them, for some reason it helped me. If you want to intake some caffeine to help with the energy drink a mtn. dew cola. If you can find some excerderin miagrain tablets at your local drug store of dollar store get them and use them. They are over the counter no prescription needed and they do have caffeine them also. I also go some acetophetomine and I am taking about 4-6 daily along with the 4 excederin migrain tablets. Now this has help me tremendously, I dont know if it will help you because body chemistries are different but we all have simular DNA charactistics and it may help you also. The other thing is to take a very good multi vitamin with plenty of natual vitaimin C from the rose hips or rose buds maybe about 2000 mg per day. If you can also get some niacin to take get it and take it according to label instructions. It will help purge the toxins from your system. All of this may cost about 25-35 dollars per week but as you know it is much cheaper that the lortab habit. I hope this will help you, it did and is helping me very well but the first week will be your hardest and I promise if you can get to two weeks clean taking these mentioned products/meds that you will then be feeling like life can go on and then it will only get better from there. Please hang in there and do this if at all possible, like I have said I make no claims as to any professional advice as I am not a Doctor but this has helped me so well. Good luck to you my brother and I wish you wellness. PS   some of my spelling may be incorrect but I think you will know what I am talking about. If you have futher questions please post and I will check it this evening.

[desperation782]

Thank you for the advice.  I'll check it out today.  I have never felt this bad but trust the physical pain will eventually subside.  I just don't know who I am anymore and when the detox process is over I don't know who I will be.  My personality is in the drug.  I don't know how to "be" without it.  I never ever thought my life would end up like this.  I'm a suburban mom ... now a junkie, too.  Thanks for taking the time to reach out to me.  You have no idea how much it means and how I will look forward to hearing back from you...

[annoymous1]

Hey I know exactly how you are feeling but I can assure you that it will get much better  as long you continue to (most importantly) stay away from the stuff and get plenty of vitamins and supplements. You will get better, I promise but I know that does not really help at a time like this, words words and more words but it will happen and what I think is cool...it will kind of sneak up on you and one day you just realize that you really are feeling good and strong. Good luck and stay in touch, I will help you through it ok. Don

[jooler]

i was reading annoymous1 thread. Damn that me. i started crying then felt like i need to say something. When i was 13 i shattered my elbow. i remember abusing my meds at 18. iam now 31 and use 10-12 10/500 tabs a day. i am on day 3 now. This *****. I am using the advice that i have learned here. the scariest part of this whole thing is finding out who the real me is. this me is all i have known and im terrified. my wife has been supportive but she really doesnt UNDERSTAND how i feel. this is the first time i have cried since i was a kid. I hurts to move. i keep waiting for i to get better but i think im in for a rough ride.....thank you for listening

[jooler]

sorry i meant i was reading desperation782 thread   sorry annoyonmus1

[annoymous1]

Well I am very happy today and want to share this with you all that are struggling as to give some hope to you. I have followed my own advice and it is working well, I am now 16 days clean and now I am feeling very good, wow for awhile I was beginning to wonder if life was worth living but I assure you it can be great. I am shooting for 20 days. Hang in there everybody it will get better.

[smiles6]

I really liked your thoughts and advice on taking the migraine medicine (OTC).  I think it helps get through the tougher days.  I've been on hydro for about 3 years and it's getting tougher to afford.  I was in a very bad marriage and the "buzz" made me smile and made it easier to deal with.  I have never told ONE person about this addiction.  Now, thankfully I am getting out of this marriage.  I'm afraid to try to go off of it during this already really tough divorce time.  I already feel so full of anxiety....but I may try anyway.  Why am I afraid to tell ONE person?  Would it be because then they might hold me accountable??  Would you suggest telling someone?  I think I know one person who loves me truly all the way through that I could share this with.  I have gone off of it before for several days.  Even a week once.  I was sick with a cold and had no desire to take it.  That actually seems like a good time to try to quit and I should have stuck with it.  I feel so alone and am so glad to read these posts.  Thanks everyone for sharing.........it helps to know we aren't alone....

[annoymous1]

Well I am very sorry to hear of your divorce however, if it is a bad marriage then I suppose one must do what one has to. As for coming off the stuff while going through a "tuff time"...I dont know what to recommend but I will say that while there is no really perfect time to go with getting clean I do believe that it is easier when there are no stressful, depressing events that are taking place in your life. I feel that it is easier when someone can focus on what is at hand and as you already know it will take total commitment and determination to truly get clean. I am not going to suggest to you that you wait until times are better because that MAY only lead to further procrastination and untruthfulness with yourself but if you can be 100% honest with yourself and totally clear on your goals then maybe you should wait until things are more settled as to be able to put all of your mental efforts into getting clean and therefore reducing the risk of a relapse that will only drag you further down and be a major contributor of depression and the addiction itself. I think it is something that you and only you will be able to make a firm decision on and I wish you the very best with it. Now, as for sharing your ordeal and feelings with someone else, I say definitely as long as you KNOW you can trust and rely on that person for moral and mental support while and after you do get through this first step toward recovery. I believe that is is certainly necessary to have someone whom you can talk with and who will encourage you during this very difficult time, although again, that is a decision that you and only you can make but I do know that if I would have had someone to "lean on" while I was taking those first steps it would have been much easier for me to get through the beginning which is always the toughest time. Good luck to you smiles6 and I hope all gets better for you real soon. Please, if I can offer to you any moral support through this forum just post your feelings and I will be more that happy (privileged) to give what ever I can. Take care and again Good luck.

[ginsa]

Some of you who have posted have begun the journey to being clean after addiction instigated by drug therapy for chronic pain. I had the same situation. I was taking increasingly stronger Hydorcodone tabs for an injured back and neck and when I found myself wanting to exceed the prescribed  4- 10/325 Norco and still in pain, I knew I had to STOP! The concern of my  health care providers was how I would manage pain without drugs. I was fortunate enough to be able to get Physical Therapy. Two of the treatments I got there used TENS units. OneTENS has the silver dollar sized conduction pads, the other uses ETPS (Electro Therapeutic Point Stimulation), which is a non-invasive Neuro-Mechanical Acupuncture tool. These tools were a Godsend. I had also taken Lyrica (150 am and 225pm), Ambien 10mg., and either Xanax or Klonipin ( .25 - .5 and  5 -1mg  respectively) on and off for most of two years. I tapered off the Lyrica first, then started off the Benzos.

I started tapering off from the 4 Norco a day in late December. I felt so much better with using the TENS units that I suddenly dropped off from 4 a day to 2 and almost immediately experienced the most intense panic and anxiety. In spite of  taking a supplement named Calm ( Magnesium Citrate) and Valerian Root. I ended up in the Psych Ward for 4 days. I was given seroquel (sp?) there and was finally able to sleep for the first time in almost 3 days. I felt better after I went home, but a different Psych. took me off the seroquel  and very soon I was right back to intense panic and the constant pain it causes. I soldiered on and  continued to taper down to about 3 mg. a day by the end of March. I was in therapy for depression and anxiety and my counselor kept urging me to go into Detox. I chaffed at the idea and continued to suffer horribly until mid April, when I could barely function. During the whole time I was using the Norco I was under great emotional turmoil from divorce, financial ruin, moving an entire household 3 times, and a 16 year old daughter ( need I say more?).

I finally got moved this last time and decided to see about inpatient Detox . I am so glad I finally did.  I had increased my Norco to 5mgs. three times a day just to make myself comfortable ( it didn't work after a day! )  until I could get treatment. I was able to get in right away and admitted myself a week ago Monday.The facility gave suboxine to some users to help with opiate withdrawl, but I didn't take it. I was afraid I would get addicted to that instead.
By 4pm Monday I was crying, in terrible rebound pain, and even more intense pain from anxiety. I was given an anti-convulsant, Neurontin ( Gabapentin ) 400mg 4 times a day  and tapered off that over 8 days. I also took 50mg. Vistaril ( a sedative decongestant ) as needed as often as every 4 hours, and Motrin 800, alternating with the equivalent in acetaminophen for pain. The Neurontin is also good for nerve pain & fibromyalgia but not as good as Lyrica. For help sleeping Trazdone was given as needed  in 50mg. increments pr hour until sleep ( up to 250mgs.).  

The facility also housed residents in a Rehab program. There were classes, NA/AA meetings and group therapy available for detox clients who wanted to attend, but were mandatory for Residents in Rehab.  I attented a couple the second day and one additional each day as I felt able. The classes were on various drugs, managing feelings, communicating, and designed to help peers to cope with what life deals you once you leave the shelter of Rehab. My insurance wouldn't pay for Rehab, so after 4 days  in Detox I went home. I have been off the Ambien and Norco now for 10 days. I am still shakey and foggy headed, but the overwhelming painful anxiety has gone from 9 to 1 on a scale of 1-10. I feel like my left side is detached from my right and like I am dragging my left foot around sometimes. This is probably due to the nature of my injuries combined with the affects of withdrawl. I still have pain and will probably try Cortizone injections again, I also have chills, but they almost feel good!, like little endorphine rushes. Also sweating at night and no menstrual period since early March. (could be perimenopause or withdrawl ). BUT...colors are more vivid...the sunset Tuesday night was awesome! The grass is sooooo green. Its almost like I am high on pot.

I am self medicating with Lyrica 50mg in the morning, and am taking Vistiril 50mg 2-3 times a day to help with the anxiety. I also do breathing and visualization  exercises to try to keep anxiety at bay.

I have learned more about detox and withdrawl online since beginning detox than I knew going in and I am GRATEFUL to all of you who have shared.

The bottom line is this, Have a plan for dealing with Chronic pain BEFORE you detox. and try to get it over with Cold Turkey. I tortured myself for 3 months trying to wean off the Norco. The worst withdrawl I have had so far CT was not much worse than what I endured for 3 months.  I expect to keep feeling better with time. One day at a time. Symptoms can come and go for several ( 12 weeks or more ), so don't get discouraged by it. I had a good day yesterday, but today... not so much.  Education is key. Find as much info as possible on the web.It really helps to keep your mind occupied, even if it's just watching TV or a movies.

I found this good site that dealt with Benzo withdrawl, but most of the symptoms and their duration also present with Opiate wd. I read all three chapters and found it really helpful.

http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzsched.htm

I also began using the Thomas recipe as closely as I could, except for the L-tyrosine because I am extremely sensitive to stimulants and afraid this will cause me anxiety. I get some of this in the liquid Vitamin/mineral /amino  supplement I take anyway.

My heart goes out to all of you in your fight. I am humbled by my experience and by the strength that many of you have shown.

Ginsa

[g33k]

I am currently on day 1 of a very long addiction to lortab taking about 200-250 milligrams a day. Im still going through the severe aches from about mid torso down. Feels like charlie horses in both my legs, my stomach is in a really tight painful knot, and my lower back is absolutely killing me. Nothing has helped so far, I just lay here on the couch and deal with it, shaking or bouncing my legs while laying down takes some of the painful tingle out of them so I do that until I get so tired I finally just pass out from exhaustion. This is my 5th attempt to detox at home just white knuckling it. Hang in there everyone and Ill be praying along with you.

[TrayCee]

you will have much better luck starting a new thread.  Your digging up 3 year old threads.

[whalephat]

Thank you everyone for posting, it helped me more then you would know. Everything from hot baths to the mulit vit. were a life saver. It's been about 4 days, but I only took them for about a year, but let me tell you the first 2 days, cold sweats every second, always wanting to take hot showers for some reason, waking up I had to lift myself up just to get up it felt like, but once you get a little relief and get your confidence up, and want to stop, you will. This is the only time I have actually WANTED to stop, and I've never felt better. God Bless Each And Everyone Of You!

[smiles66]

Thank you SO much for your encouragement.  I think those were the wisest words I've ever heard.  I think you are right about not trying to make the withdrawal change during what is probably THE most difficult time of my life......but what is SO SO SO SO cool?  I have dropped to one to one and a half hydro's a day (of the 5/500).  So I feel a LOT better about myself knowing when I DO decide to get off of them "all the way" I won't have as much of a physical addiction to deal with (though there is always that darned mental one!).  My GOSH this divorce thing has been tough.  I started the hydro addiction because I was having such a hard time coping in the marriage (after 20 years) and I actually think that was part of my wake up call.  He is controlling (therefore, that was one secret thing I could do that he could NOT control).  Along with everything else I just thought, I cannot keep doing this.  And if I thought there was hope for the marriage (counseling and all) I would've stuck with it.  But when you have been with a controlling, emotional bully for years its  hard to convince yourself of those things.  Thus, the drugs to give me false and temporary ease.  Anyway, so I heading through the financial nightmare (we own a business together so its very complicated) and I think I will just try to maintain here and totally deal with it later.  As far as telling someone about my little secret?  I agree with you.  That is very tricky.  I told my Mom.  And my Mom doesn't even live here, lives in another state but is a very wise woman.  I was visiting her and shared it.  She was BEYOND cool about it.  It didn't even phase her.  It helps me knowing that one person knows and thats where (for now) it will stay.  

Thank you, Anonymous 1!  God sends us people like you to encourage us.  I don't know you but you are awesome and the people in your life are blessed to have you!

[annoymous1]

Its is very good to hear that you are getting things together for yourself. I appreciate the kind words that you posted. Take things slowly but stay consistent and committed and you will reach every goal you set no matter what it is. Those are the keys that unlock the doors to new and better beginnings once we have decided to change things. Good Luck to you smiles6 I wish you the very best.

[oceandove1990]

I am a recovering addict. i like most people never thought it would happen to me it still sometimes makes me wonder why some people can take there pills normally and never get addicted and others take one and that it. I was clean january 5th 2008. Then this year i am facing another surgery and i haven't had one since 2002 and the doctors have me back on hydrocodone again and will have to go threw all the struggles of withdrawel all over again. It is the most agonizing thing in the world but i will do it. I pray everynight for my self all my fellow addicts it is a hard road, but we have all survived this challenge. To all of you out there like me struggeling God bless you!!

[marie1123]

Hello everyone,

I was given hydrocodone a few times by my dad who had his doctor prescribe them to him every month due to bad back pain, then i started to like the way they made me feel so i started taken one every evening when i would visit him in his room, He ended up in a horrible accident a few months later and had to be hospitolized so i had all his meds, needless to say, yes i started to take his hydrocodone and by the time i new it, i was hooked, so even though he was hospitolized i new he had refills and i kept taking his hydro, when he came home 2 months later i still kept taking his hydrocodone with him and after a while he caught on that he was running out of it fast, to make a long story short he wasn't an *** about the whole thing he just did not want me to end up the way i did hooked, so he started hiding his bottle and that was the worst thing ever, i was semi withdrawing, he would only give me one per day for about a week then started to cut the pill in have the next week until he got me completly off then had a long talk with me about becoming addicted to these pills, boy was i in for a ride only because i promise him i would never take them again and i did.. It was so easy for me to get to them and there i was again hooked, This is a very addicting medication that will mess you up bad if your not careful and take them only for a short time, after a while you become depended on them and if you have no way of getting them, your in trouble.  I recently put my father in a nursing home because he needs 24hr care and i have no hydrocodone, So i am withdrawing cold cold turkey.. its been tough , I am on day 6 and starting to feel a little better now, i did go through the mood swings bad for the first 2-3 days chills and depression.  Just a little advice to everyone out there who are taking this medication, be careful and get off of it if you can. Good luck to everyone and God Bless.  

[HELPlessinMO]

It started out innocent enough -
I had hydro prescribed for a surgery, then continued to take them even after -
I went from getting 60  month to 120, in addition to buyin gthem off teh streets. I went through over 1000 - 10/325 in 3 weeks.
I HAVE to stop!!
It's been a bit over a year now and aside from trying to hide the financial burden from my husband & children - I want to be clean. I'm scared.
I was addicted to nalbuphine several years ago, and remember the pain of coming off of that - and swearing to myself I would NEVER let that happen again, after being clean for 5 years, here I am.
Monkey on my back again and scared to death to detox, or the possibility of not having them. They are my safe haven. I take them for energy to clean house & chase after 3 kids, I take them to calm down when I am upset, I take them when I'm bored just to take them??!
Its nothing for me to take 20-30 a day. They DO NOT get me high at ALL - they make me feel normal, which I know isn't really normal -
PLEASE someone give me words of strength & wisdom to stop.
Walk me though what to expect, day by day.
HELPless in MO.

[HELPlessinMO]

It started out innocent enough -
I had hydro prescribed for a surgery, then continued to take them even after -
I went from getting 60  month to 120, in addition to buyin gthem off teh streets. I went through over 1000 - 10/325 in 3 weeks.
I HAVE to stop!!
It's been a bit over a year now and aside from trying to hide the financial burden from my husband & children - I want to be clean. I'm scared.
I was addicted to nalbuphine several years ago, and remember the pain of coming off of that - and swearing to myself I would NEVER let that happen again, after being clean for 5 years, here I am.
Monkey on my back again and scared to death to detox, or the possibility of not having them. They are my safe haven. I take them for energy to clean house & chase after 3 kids, I take them to calm down when I am upset, I take them when I'm bored just to take them??!
Its nothing for me to take 20-30 a day. They DO NOT get me high at ALL - they make me feel normal, which I know isn't really normal -
PLEASE someone give me words of strength & wisdom to stop.
Walk me though what to expect, day by day.
HELPless in MO.