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how much usage to get addicted

I have been taking 10 to 15mg of percocet a day for about 12 days now to relieve pain from an injury.  I know it is different for everyone, but does anyone know about how much usage of this type of drug it would take to get addicted to it.  Thank you
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GOD
lolypop,

You said you Experimented with Tramadol and took 60Mg per day. How did you do that? As far as I am aware, Tramadol comes in 2 different dosings: 50Mg per pill in Ultram, and 37.5Mg per pill in Ultracet. Were you cutting up pills or did you mean to say you were taking 600 Milligrams and not Sixty. Anyhow, Just be careful with this drug! It is not an Opiate, but it is just as addictive in some people (Including me), and don't be surprised to find yourself taking 30 or more pills in one day and wondering how this all happpened....

Jess
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TRAMADOL IS BEST DRUG I EVER EXPERIMENT WITH.i TOOK DAYLY 60MG.
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tex3,
Thanks for the reply. Coming here is giving me the will-power to go thru this. I am doing this in a hard taper. I have begun the taper 7 days ago and feel like absolute garbage. Sunday, I will attempt to do none. Keep the replies coming; I really appreciate it, God bless.

TBC
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Good luck in your quest for freedom from this beast! It does help to talk to people at various stages. I will say, however, that the first week I didn't talk to anyone except to cry, cry, cry. Are you going cold turkey or doing a home detox with an addiction specialist? That really does help. If not, some OTC things will help a bit. I, too, was hooked on Vics (10/325) up to 30/day at the end. It's no fun. I wish you the best of luck and please let us know how y'all are doing. t
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you are still a good person - you're just an addict like the rest of us here.  my addiction started out over a headache as well.  it's a rollercoaster ride thru hell...and it definitely can put you into debt.  my wallet isn't as empty these days...that's for sure.  be careful of those televangelists too tho...historically, they've been known to empty wallets too. we're all here to support you - keep posting and good luck to you and your wife.
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Thanks ww!
Yes, I hope to be checking in here for inspiration when I'm in the 'belly of the beast'.  I'm looking foward to it;  I want to live a good life again. I am so sick of all the lying and living a double-life, not to mention all the money. I'm so guilt ridden for what I've been doing. Praying and watching televangelists seems to help me.

Thanks for your response!!

TBC
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Hi thru and welcome to the forum!

Your story is a lot like many of ours..you are not alone here.

I look forward to getting to know you and more of what you are going through. sometimes just writing it out and getting gut level honest with yourself really helps a lot.

love,
WW
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Hi all.
I'm new here. I stumbled onto this wonderful place in search of people that have similar problems as my wife and I. We are addicted to vicodin ES. (approx. 15-20/day each!) We have made the decision to quit on Sunday. I'm scared, but I really want to beat this thing. It all started 4 years ago when I got a kidney stone and a perscription for Vicodin ES. I took 2 and passed the kidney stone. The remaining 28 stayed in the cupboard for 6 months until I had a bad headache one day and didn't have any tylenol. I took 2 Vicodins for the headache and felt great. It has been a hell ride ever since. I really don't know how this got so out of control and I am so regretful it ever happened. I am literally watching our lives going down the tubes and my better angels are telling me to stop now. I've lost a lot of my self-esteem and I feel so ashamed of myself. I've let so many things go by the way-side in favor of getting more pills. I really hope to stop. I am choosing sunday because I see a window of opportunity where we wont have any commitments for about 10 days. Folks, please pray for us. -And a big hats off to all the brave souls here that are kicking this ****. I want to be a good person again.

Thank you.
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Please let me know how she is. She sounded really down, like she needed help now. I've been that depressed but it was before I was posting here. I finally called my sister at that point just to cry. That was during the first week of my detox. I hope she's okay. Update here if you get a chance. t
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i need to email her.  i worry about her, but i also care for her.
she posts usually when she needs to.  i hope she knows how many of us do care for her.  she helped welcome me to the forum and helped me when i needed help.  i will email her.
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Hi Ava. I'm doing pretty good, was out all day yesterday and today I have a killer headache.
I did get new email, although I'm still trying to get back to my old one and check it (unsuccessfully, so far).
I had a total hyst too, although it was done in stages, through 4 laps in 4 years. Didn't plan it that way, but nothing ever helped and every year I was back for more cutting. They took the last ovary in March, so I guess if that doesn't work, I'm somewhat screwed. After dealing with it for so many years, I think I can handle a certain level of pain anyway, so I'm hopeful.

You can email me at ***@****. I had hotmail, but my computer won't let me log in under my old name. Crazy.

I hope you're doing well. I assume they got all the bad cells out of you? That's very scary. Please let me know how you are. Do you know how Meagain is doing?
Tracy
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hey,i'm sorry i have not posted lately .  when you got the new computer, did you change your email address?  how are you feeling?  how have they been treating your endo?  i had a total surgerical hyst,because it was causing so many problems.  the doc
said i was pre cancerous.  hope you are well.  i hope the cravings have lessened.  talk to you later.  
      ava
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ash

hi ya doin. I actually have been on the forum for some time but took a two month frickin" binge! i really dug the way you talked about the w/ds. Im' only at like day one! off of vikes. But i get about a week or so off and then i fold. it is so distressing and scary. i want to be able to say i have been clean a year and more. i wish the best to u, please keep posting!

ash
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Exoticsol -- First, please don't get upset with what I say, and maybe I am wrong here, but just think about it.
You write that you have never been addicted to drugs. From what you write, you are using drugs to numb your feelings. That's exactly what I did. I also said I was not addicted. It took a revelation for me to admit it to myself. I knew I needed to stop before I admitted I was addicted, and was already detoxing at that point. But generally, if you are using drugs to numb your feelings and not as prescribed, you probably have a problem with them. You are abusing them, whether you are "actively" dependent on them or not (by dependent I mean physically, in which you will experience withdrawals when you quit taking them).
It sounds like you are having serious cravings and preoccupation with the pills, which is likely why you find reasons to take them after 18 hours. No one can tell you that you are an addict or that you have a problem with drugs; you have to get to that point on your own. When I finished my first detox, the therapist asked me if I considered myself an addict, and I said no. I used every excuse in the book; I was in chronic pain so that helped, as I could cover myself in that and justify my usage. And I was in pain, but I loved that because it allowed me to freely use painkillers. I also used anti-anxiety meds, but never really got bad with those.
These are just some things to consider. You are the only one who really knows how much and why you are using pills. It takes a lot of self-analysis to understand what's going on in your head. Sounds like you are working on that. I've found that I can actually deal with life's problems much better while not using. I went through some really tough times, as you are with your ex-gf. I still am, but it's much easier to deal with when I am honest to myself (which I never was when using) and my head is clear.
One more thing: If you are using the Ativan, Xanax or other CNS depressants regularly, when you detox from these you must do so under a doctor's care. You can have seizures as a rebound effect from stopping these. This is very serious, so please don't mess around with it if you are in fact using them regularly. The detox from regular use of opiates is hell, but it won't kill you. Read others posts here to know what to expect, if you will be detoxing from painkillers.
If you are not using any of these regularly, but are instead using them as a crutch to numb your feelings, you still need help emotionally/mentally to deal with the cravings and other psychological aspects of this. We are here for you. I hope this post hasn't angered you, and maybe I am off base regarding your situation. I am speaking solely as a recently admitted addict. Feel free to write to me personally; my address is ***@****.
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Meagain,
Yes, I swear that it does get better. It really does.

And I also believe that anyone who wants it bad enough can get clean and stay clean.  The key is that you have to really, really want it. Put as much if not more energy into your recovery work as you did into your addiction, and you will be well on your way.

The thing is, you have to really root out the part of you that is still clinging the chasing that high, and not let it be in charge anymore.

Sometimes getting help, inpatient or outpatient, is also the way to go.  A lot of times our internal controls are just not there, and the external structure of a program helps a lot.

good luck..just never give up. You can do it.

WW
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i know you can do it. we are sitting down to dinner so i have to go soon.  but meagain, you have the mind to do it.  apply your will, or His will, and surround yourself with NA basic text, and other books on recovery.   my mother, who had 13 years clean before she died, left her diaries to me.  recovery is a life time endevor she wrote.  i tend to believe her.  hang in there and get to a meeting as soon as you feel well enough to go.  continue posting.  we care about you.  Good luck and Blessings, Ava.
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First let me start of by introducing myself.  I am a 19 turning 20 college student who just finsihed his 2nd year at WorWic community college.  I've never been a steady drug user. I've experimented throughout my life but have never really been addicted.  I've been using a steady amount of pain killers for the past 6 months.  Medicines ranging from 10mg Oxycontin, 5mg Roxicodone (2 to 3 at a time), 3 Tylox, 4 Vicodin, or other types of anti anxiety medicines, i.e. Valium, Xanax, Adavan.  I have mainly been taking thiss meds for some minor back problems but I felt they helped me more in coping with my exgirlfriend's new fiance.  The medicines kinda numbed my thoughts the way I needed them to.  Well, now my depression has finally lifted, I am once again happy, summer is comming around again, I'll hopefully be getting my car out of the shop.  (My car is my life, which I feel has been the other part of my depression)  Well with all this change going on I feel that I don't need the drugs anymore.  A couple of days ago I decided to stop taking the Roxicondone  but I just can't seem to stop.  I'll last for about 18hours but then I can somehow justify taking them.  So I am basically looking for some support.  Tomorrow, May 7th, I begin my quest to be drugfree.  I have taken my last two Roxicodone tonite May 6th at 9pm.  I have plans on how to keep myself busy and so on but is there anything I can take, without taking Valium and Adavan, that can help to take the edge off.  I plan on working on my car, applying for some jobs, and maybe just go chill at the beach.  I'm trying to prove to myself that I can live a life and be completely happy again without having any type of outside chemical in me.  Thanks.  You can email me directly if you need to speak to me or instant message me through AIM.  

Email  ***@****
AIM - LordMaryk or ExoticSol
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---------------do you guys swear that it will get better and do you think that my flacky ass can do it?
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Hi Ava,
I sent you a small email. Thanks for caring about me. I'am not to sure about this methadone. I havn't got a feel for it yet. It
doesn't seem to help with my pain to much. ThankGod for the oxicodones for breakthrough. I have an appointment thursday maybe
I can get some answers.
Tom
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Don't sweat it!  In my post I did say you were right.  Most info can be found by searching.  I said what I said about me just in case you meant something else by it.
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Good afternoon,  I hope you are doing well today.  I cannot talk for long, because my kid has blisters on her forehead.  I've got to call the school, and i've got to get her some relief.  I'll check back with you and everyone later.  I guess you have your computer back.  How goes it with the meds?  Hope all is well.
Good luck and Blessings.
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Hi tex3(tlk).
Sorry I didn't get back to you. I have to use this computer at work. I loaned mine to a buddy whos going through a tough divorce. It's over at his house, well he was just called up to
active duty and was sent to the Persion(sp) Gulf for ninty days.
I was stationed at Lackland Airforce base in the Airforce at
San Antonio (sp). Also I passed through Dallas on my way to Hawaii. Seems like a pretty nice state.
Tom
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Thanks, also other than goggle, i have an outdated sight.  Are there more pharmacological sites?  Will you let me in on them?
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i guess i am just a big *#!hole....i didn't mean anything by my post about looking stuff up.  i just wanted to tell people that they can also get their answers in other places that are more efficient than waiting for an answer or getting the wrong answer from someone who isn't a doctor. I'M SORRY OK?
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