husband is combative in w/d

he keeps telling me ways he can obtain them, he's wearing on me. he's screaming, pacing, says his legs feel like 1000 lbs and he has a shocking feeling, the runs, increased sex drive, mania, he's going mad, I think hes being dramatic in an effort to get me to cave. should i call the cops, he wont stop screaming at me. he says **** all them pieces of **** on here, hes just going crazy, ughhhh

[Florida_Guy737]

Why would you call the cops?  Do you feel threatened?  Some tips I learned for dealing with mania is just to be calm and don't feed into his or her mania.

Hope this helps...

Guy

[122 Tactical Fighter Group]

Well there might be ways that he can obtain them - - but then what about next week/month/year? Its always going to be there until you deal with it.  Perhaps you should offer some measures from the Thomas Recipe and The Amino Acid Protocols - - these do help......and the brain needs all the help that it can get to go through this stuff!  Go ahead and vent on your Post - we have all been is a similar place ourselves.......

[pensacolafl26]

I already got him the thomas recipe. And yes i do feel threatened. He sreaming at me, namecalling, and threatining to bash this computer. he wants me to call my doctor and have them call me in a script, this has been going on for HOURSSSSSS. i don't know how more i can take of this

[122 Tactical Fighter Group]

Can you just remove yourself from the situation for awhile?  Barring that, will he respect some "me" time on your end for breathing exercises and the like.......?  

[gizzy32]

If you think you can stay clean with this type of environment, your chances are slim. I promise this is not meant mean at all, but obvious he is not ready and he is taking you down with him. Even in active use I wouldn't feed people drugs, let alone someone I was with and had a child with, gross. He posted not long ago remember?  He's telling you how to get pills? WOW, congrats buddy, come swear at me, i can take it, I don't mind. Pieces of **** huh? We are not the one's trying to get someone to use, unlike you, how horrrible is that?

Wake up dude, you have a family. Get some help and stop taking your family down. Sorry im being honest on this post, but i find it disturbing. Send me a pm if you want to swear at someone, I will still support you still and try to help. Wake up please.

You just said your feeling threatened, so I say call the cops, you don't need this crap. Sorry I sound harsh, I am speaking from the heart and I wish your family the best. You have the choice to fix this, remember that. Both of you be safe please:)

[pensacolafl26]

A friend from here has called, and he is now calm. I suspect he will go through his bouts of mania for the next few days. I do feel like it would be easier alone, but i hate abandoning people. I'm not enabling anymore, so there's one step, oh i hope tomorrow is better

[febninthgirl]

Hang in there girl. Just remember you have to keep u and that baby safe. U can't stay in a toxic environment either keep pushing though.

[avisg]

you need to get out of this house .It is not a safe environment

[worried878]

I am not familiar with what is going on..but after reading it seems u r recently clean?  this is not a good situation for u to be in at all...not now..u always have to look after u....and this is not safe for a clean person nor someone who never used..I am not sure of his dose or DOC but I am assuming it is a very high dose or a very strong drug..u know this person and if u dfeel threatened then u r probably right..trusting ur perceptions is important..I found that out the hard way

As a rule most do not become violent during wd....is he doing this against his will?  I have seen peeps get shaky and really uncomfortable...sick as a dog but in a very severe wd the person usually does not feel well enuf to be expending this much nrg ranting and raving...not if they r doing what they trukly want to do,..even when peeps run out it is usually not a scary thing but a very sick thing///the person feels awful,,,not manic

There r some drugs the dr can give him to help..again i am not sure what he is wd-ing from...ur clean time is precious tho..and so is ur well being..please remove urself if need be...sometimes it just taint worth it

Laura

[pensacolafl26]

thanks. Everyone is now resting. his DOC is vics, pretty severe case countless rehabs, etc. If he would just not speak, that would be great, but i hurt so bad, i cant even move. Do you think something in the l-tyrosine is causing him to be combative. i do believe that to be the ingredient for energy. He pleads for help, but when my help is anything other than pills, then I'm the enemy. He watches me suffering, and watches with careful mind to see when i appear most voulnerable, and then attacks with enticement. None of what he is doing is illegal, that's the bad part. The perscriptions are legite and legal, temotaion, or enticement is not illegal, but harassment is, but that will be just splitting hairs. When the cops arrive, it will be a simple case of aa husband having a discussion with his wife. but i'm exercising options bright and early tomorrow

[worried878]

Tyrosine does induce anxiety and is not a good idea to use if someone is anxious....my wd was more fatigue with some short periods of anxiety but i did not hit the 200 mgs of tyrosine recommended in the recipe until the melt into the couch syndrome occurred after physical wds were over..I did not have the nrg to get out the door for work...did rocket shots every am and i do not even drink coffee often

Tyrosine needs to go....it is not like he could od on tyrosine but it is the precursor to dopamine which is a "get up and go" neurotransmitter....tyrosine would be contraindicated in this case until anxiety resolves..I thought it said this in the thomas recipe?  

Depending on his current meds...5htp can help calm him and theanine, valerian root andmelatonin can too...some have an opposite effect to benadryl and it can hype them up/I do/ so i would stay away from any OTC things with benadryl in it unless u know how he responds to it......real chinese green tea is full of theanine..not the walmart green tea....I think there is an article in the health pages/or maybe my journal about whart each amino acid does and tyrosine is a nrg booster..it sounds as if he has enuf nrg!  when i was thru with detox...i took tyrosine in the powdered form with EmergenC...and i could feel the nrg shotly after...but in this case it is counterproductive...tyrosine is present in almost all meats and many other foods..if there is too much the body simply will not absorb it so it is not the tyrosine causing this but it is not helping this at all

Pleas keep us posted..and remeber ur safety is the upmost priority

Laura

[worried878]

Went and looked at the thomas recipe...and it should be more prominent about the jitters..we all have a different wd...some experience RLS, lack of sleep and bad for a week or less...others have a wd like i did which was fatigue and small periods of anxiety..i slept 12-16 hrs a dy if i could..we r all different and tyrosine does not need to be used in the acute stage of wd if anxiety, RLS or sleeplessnes is an issue//i copied and pasted the tyrosine recommendation form the thomas recipe but i do see how it is not toally clear:  For the majrity of peeps, tyrosine can aggravate anxiety



If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. "

[pensacolafl26]

thanks, he is calm the moment. His legs ache,a s do mine, and i just took a hot bath, scolding, and have heating pad. i ache all over. Any suggestions. Him and my mother (who is also a user) have teamed uo t prevent me froom leaving with my toddler. They say they do nothing wrong, they have perscriptions , snd will be drug tested if needed. they said that i am delusional, haha, and will keep me from leaving. My husband has been very abusive in the past and jailed for it, my mother has an extensive record of child aabuse, and drugs and alcohol record. She said getting child protection services in the midddle would be a mistake, and she said this with unmistakable inclinations of consequence. I don't want to cause a big scene here, i just want sobriety, and if that means me sneaking off to a womens sheltor, well, i guess this place is no better. but until morning, any ideas for the aches..?

[kim715]

The hot baths and motrin are the best things for the aches and pains along with exercise.

I don't know your whole situation,just what I read on this thread.You need to get your children and get out of that house ASAP!!!  I know you said earlier that you don't like to 'give up' on people BUT it sounds like your physical safety is in danger as well as your mental sanity with both your husband and your mother teaming up.PLEASE a friends house,a relative,a shelter,anywhere but where you are now.Get out of there.....Sending prayers...Kim

[worried878]

not sure if he iwould be a participant but trading leg massages would help...would be helping one focus while the other gets relief

do u have any deep heat rub?  u can massage ur legs urself..they r in spasm as u took ur dopamine away...the pills produce large levels of dopamine and the brain adjust/as the body is very finally tuned and sensed the outside source so slowed down production..I know this is probably too much information but for me understanding helps me to accomodate,,,to go fruther//dopamine in excess causes schizophrenia...parkinson patients have dopamine depletion causing jerky movements etc/their affect becomes flat without dopamine as it the neurotransmitter that gives us some "get up and go"  the cramping/and or jerking u r experiencing is due to a dopamine cut off...do u see my point?  u have advantage over a parkinson patient cos ur problem will heal when ur brain has time to catch up..a parkinson patient is not so lucky

there is an article in the health pages on RLS..often addicts are anemic so iron can help..red meats or a supp..if u have any muscle relaxers that will also help  direct massage and heat or ice also helps/as well as soaking in a hot tub...muscle rub helps too...many use tonic water as well as tyhere is an ingredient in tonic water/quinidine which is believed to help...there r also rx-ed meds for this as many who r not addicts also have this condirtion//my mom for one..moving helps lots..if it becomes sevrer then MOVE....  there is also an OTC drug called Hylands Restless Legs that i have seen people post and say it worked/u can get this at walmart

Also tight wraps help...do u have any compression hose? or ace wraps?  sumpin to compress ur legs to improve circulation''lemme know what helps..but do know this passes..and u will feel better

[pensacolafl26]

Thanks for all your information. i wish i had some hose , tight wraps, lol, if i can have one gift in the woeld right now, i would be taken care of in some warm home safe with mt daughter, where i can rest. This is just a dream of course, but i imagine that anyone who has to work or has children through their w/d just wished to  be taken care of. Anyone who says anything else, well whatever, haha, i am miserable, but i;m hanging onto the idea that tomorrow i mighht feel better. i know i won, but ill pretend i will, ohhhh, my legs......woe is meeeeeeeee, haha, atleast im ,laughing at myself, gosh misery

[worried878]

do you have any panty hose?  if u put on 2 pair at a time it will be mild compression...u can cut them at the top as long as they will stay on..or even cut one pair and then a whole pair over it...the more hose u use the more compression u will get..if it is just ur calf area a tight pair of knee socks then panty hose will help....

if this continues, go get some support hose tomorrow....anything u can do th get some compression..and exercise as much as u can//alternate legs with heat and ice and see which one helps most...a muscle relaxer would help u if u had one

be safe...ttyl

[kim715]

Worried is right anything that will apply compression will help.One lady even used her kids winter scarves to wrap her legs.They also sell something at Walmart called Hylands restful legs...Good luck to you.....Kim

[pensacolafl26]

thanks guys, i have some ols panyhose back there. Maybe ill try some exercise") My husband just entered the room, he wants to know what to take of the Thomas recipe? Yesterday he was manic, so we thought to cut out the l tyro for now, but it looks like.....yeep he already took one if this maked him manic, what can he counter it with? He is counting the hours. he has 41 hours. this is the most he has ever had outside a rehab, he's soooooo annoying, but hes doing good

[worried878]

Tyrrosine doesnt linger long...the doses should be taken 3-4 times a day..not all at once...dose recommended is 2000 mgs..they usually come in 500 mg pills so 4 a day...they say in the recipe u can take up to 4000 mgs but i stayed at 2000 mgs..but i am 5'2...smaller than ur hubby

hopefully today will be a better day

[pensacolafl26]

k thanks, my day is already getting better, someone on here gave me a number, and i called it, and the woman worked for a food ansd shelter agency, and she said they were all out of funds, but i was telling her my situation, and she was laughing so hard, she stayed on the phone exchanging stories for over an hour, she said there's nothing that her company can do, but she would personally like to pay me a visit w/ some of her church ladies to see what they can do. They said they'll be bringing food and diapers, Yay! That gave me the motivation to clean a little and brush my hair, lol,SOMEONE IS PRAYING FOR ME!