i want to quit painkillers!!!

[britneyj]

Im 21 years old and i have been on narcotics for about 8 or 9 years now. Im just now hearing about subs.. i dont know if thats right but i was wondering how do i get them and what exactly are they? I have a wonderful man who loves me to death and i feel like im just entangling him in all of this becuase it feels like i make him do this for me and this may sound crazy but i swear that makes me want it more or something i dont know much of anything right now. all i know is this: i need the "want" to quit and if not for myself for him and my beautiful 3 little boys. someone please help me because i nkow that i will never be able to go cold turkey or do this alone!!!!!!!

[rizboy]

I like to think i am superman!lol! i was constantly on and off it.using for a few months or weeks then i would detox ,stay clean a week or two,then back on it,so on so on over a 9 year period.hitting rock bottom was the last straw losing my house,job,car and girlfriend but losing myself was the worst,but im still here.I bet your feeling amazing? when that anxiety lifts its the best feeling ever,your on the home straight.all the best.chris  :)

[sandra5353]

30 detoxes??????????????? OMG! How do you do it? My first one was horrendous. 3 whole weeks of pure hell, non stop. This one lasted a week, then the last two weeks of anxiety and muscle pain, but sleep is starting to come around, finally. No anxiety today, woohooo, How does anyone live thru 30?????? GOD Bless you! P.S. are you superman?

[rizboy]

hi Sandra.if you have detoxed and  stay drug free that's the best route.like you say sub has its own side effects.for me it was a last chance saloon,id done at least 30 detoxes! and was getting nowhere.thankfully 2 years and no relapse.26 days is excellent,i bet your feeling better now your sleeping?all the best.Chris

[rizboy]

hi Sandra.if you have detoxed and  stay drug free that's the best route.like you say sub has its own side effects.for me it was a last chance saloon,id done at least 30 detoxes! and was getting nowhere.thankfully 2 years and no relapse.26 days is excellent,i bet your feeling better now your sleeping?all the best.Chris

[sandra5353]

hi rizboy, I didnt think you ranted at me, lol, I ask cause i dont know is all. I never went the sub route only cause I wanted to get withdrawals done with once and once only. My chiropractor recommended it, and it sounded great, until i read so many posts, how it can be yet another hellishnightmare on top of everything else. I always felt why bother doing it twice? I guess ome can taper with little effects, but some cant and I ddint want to take the chance. Im on day 26, starting to sleep alot more than last week and getting a bit happier day by day. Good luck to you and to brians_wife. Hope all have a grans holiday inspite of this dang disease. xo

[gnarly_1]

HI sub can be a helpful tool in getting clean it puts your addiction on hold so you can take the time to put your life back together threw consoling or N/A or A/A but the idea is not to just switch drugs but to work it as a program to get well that some day you can detox off it and be narcotic free.....NOW FOR THE BIGGY??? have you made a few serious attempts ether tapering off or just jumping off to get free of your addiction......I ask this because sub is harder to get off then most pills and the withdrawals last longer and are ruffer it is not a get out of jail free card but rather a last chance to get clean .....we can walk you threw a home detox this should be tryed first in my opinion more then once if necessary if that dont work then make your doctor appointment and go the sub rout toy got a lot to live for no reason to ruin it with the dope good luck and God bless.......Gnarly  

[rizboy]

i was depressed when i started subs because of heroin,but that took a year to sort its self out.i didn't mean to rant at you Sandra!how are you?

[sandra5353]

oh I see, well cool then, hmmmmmm Does it mess with depression?

[rizboy]

it is but it does not give an high like heroin for example.it not a perfect drug but what is?? it enabled me to live a normal life,work,social life,family and hobbies all came back into my life    because of subutex and help from  others.like i say once you take it there's no room in your brain for other opiates.plus it has a ceiling effect so once your settled on a dose you don't need more and more.if tapered slowly the wds  are mild.I've gone from 4mg and now im on 0.8mg.which I've done in really slowly(over 2 years).this drug and me saved my life!!

[sandra5353]

isnt suboxone an opiate of sorts? I heard the withdrawals are pretty bad as well, even tapering?????? hmmm

[rizboy]

hi, subs(suboxone and subutex) are usually a little pill you dissolve under your tongue,if taken daily they help block the effects of opiates(heroin,oxys etc.. so if you were to use whilst on subs, it would have little or no effect) i found they help reduce cravings too.they really worked for me, ive been opiate free for 2 years and now im tapering off the subutex to be totally drug free.Suboxone contain subutex and naltraxone,if dissolved under the tongue only the subutex is released,if you snort or inject suboxone the naltraxone is released blocking the effects of the subutex and making you rattle!! not sure how to get subs in USA as i live in UK. hope this helps take care.Chris

[brians_wife]

This is the hardest thing I have ever been through. I dont know about sub personally but there are lots of people on here who do. Keep trying.