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is it harder to detox from hydrocodone or oxycodone or suboxone?

is it harder to detox from hydrocodone or oxycodone or suboxone?

Hey all!
  I am posting this question besause I am scheduling an "at home" detox from hydrocodone and I need some advice/help.  People that are going to post telling me to just "drop those pills like a bad habit" please don't bother posting.  I hate to sound so harsh, but I really need some advice from somebody that's kicked opiates SUCCESSFULLY and HOW they did it.  Because I've been trying for the past year and a half, am only 35 and have two kids at home, my son, who's 14 and my goddaughter who just moved in with me about 10 days ago who will be 14 in a week.  Her mom/ my best friend died 10 months ago from lung cancer.  I picked up the addiction, (which I didn't know was going to happen), about 4 years ago now, after both my parents died and my best friend was diagnosed with lung cancer and I had just happened to be getting my teeth done, which was extensive (I got veneers put in along with a deep cleaning with some type of injections for my gums).  Anyhow, this procedure was not over night.  It actually took about a month and a half to complete and I was taking vicodin the whole time.  While I was on the vicodin, I realized that not only did it take away my PHYSICAL pain, but also my emotional pain I was feeling at the time.  Needless to say, that's when I got addicted.  I ended up having a friend up the street who was able to supply me with the drug afterwards and then when I went to the doctor's because of pain in my back and legs which was attributed to fibromyalgia that the doc said I've probably had for 7 or 8 years, due to the fact that before the vicodin, I had been getting somas for my muscle spasms.  At THAT time, she prescribed me up to 12 norcos a day (I know, a little overshooting, huh?  but I was all for it at the time).  I was also precribed an anti-depressant - wellbutrin.  Well, needless to say, the only thing that made me happy every day was the vicodin.  I'm going to see a doctor on Tuesday, March 2nd to get prescriptions for restless leg syndrome, (which is SEVERE every time I try to withdraw, I just stop and can't take it and end up seeking out my D.O.C), some valuim to help me be able to rest (I'm on xanax now but don't abuse it and DON'T want to end up with a benzo addiction because I know I'm gonna need alot of it to help me through the opiate detox), which I heard was WORSE in some ways than opiate W/D.  And, I know this sounds stupid, but some kind of painkiller that will get me through the month of March.  Basically, I'm a hot mess with this problem and I KNOW I'm gonna have to kick it sooner or later.  And I can't cancel my doctor appointment because that's where I'm going to get the restless leg syndrome medicine and valuum, but I KNOW he's going to overprescribe me the opiates, which I am just going to give to my husband to hold to keep me on a tapering off program.  I'd rather do it sooner than later.  I want it so bad for me and my family.  I was always the pilar of a good role model, put myself through college while having my baby and have 3 college degrees to prove it.  Worked in the legal field for about 7 years.  My son's father and I are now married and our 3 year anniversary is coming up - on the week of the time I am planning to detox, which will be school break for the kids.  He is wonderful support for me and whatever I want to do.  Which is DETOX and get back to work.  I've been out of work for three years and am super eager to get a job and get MY life back, which I feel I can't do until I kick this habit.  A year and a half ago I was put on suboxone, and I thought I was healed because I could go 3 days without even taking it (8 mgs).  But, when I found out in November last year that I was pregnant, I stopped taking everything and low and behold, 5 days later had the creepy crawlies and riarreah, which are clear signs of W/D.  I was devestated.  Those docs and my "psychiatrist" really took me for a ride.  Not to mention, in hindsight, I realize I wasn't really ready to get off, because I would still go back to my drug of choice, norcos, here and there in between suboxone doses.  But I WAS, without a doubt, ready to get off when I found out I was pregnant with a baby I've been wanting for the past five years, but my husband kept telling me "no".  (We have 5 kids between the both of us, now my goddaughter as well).  But then he had changed his mind so I got off birth control pills about a year ago.  Needless to say, I lost the baby.  I think it happened when I was withdrawing from the suboxone.  I hate these doctors so much that I feel like going postal, but I won't.  I just want to be OPIATE FREE!  It's been 23 days since I took a suboxone, but I've been substituting with short acting opioids - hydrocodone.  So, my question is this:  is it easier to detox from hydrocodone, oxycodone or suboxone?  Which one is the fastest to detox from?  Are there any herbal remedies I can look to to alleviate the depression while going through this process?  How long will it take?  Will it be  easier to taper off for about two weeks before I just pull the plug on these pills?  My tolerance is really high so I will take 10 norcos at once to get "high" but I will take 4 at a time to get me through the next 6-8 hours and just be able to be "normal".  I'm sure I can go down to 3 at a time, maybe even two.  As far as the "tapering" goes.  I'm sure it would be condusive to me to exercise as much as I can before the detox, hopefully to alleviate the restless BODY syndrome I go through that always takes me back.  I can even put up with the stomache cramps that make me feel like I'm having a baby when I'm on the toilet.   I mean I have to do the breathing techniques and everything before I can put up with the restless syndrome.   Someone, ANYONE who has some VALID advice please send it my way, either to my inbox or on the post, but it would be easier for me to find it in my inbox.  Also, has anyone heard of apple cider vinegar speeding up the detox process?  PLEASE let me know what you know that would be of help.  I was planning on doing a medical detox in the hospital because I have medi-cal and thought it would cover it, but found out today that it won't and would be $2,000 A DAY, which really put me in a bad place.  I need help or advice from anyone who has it.  I know I've said this about 4 times, But I am SO desperate at this point.  Thanks for any advice, guys!
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well.can tell u my path..I was clean 2 years from narcotics on feb 6th...but still inrecovery.and always will be..addiction can sneak up on me//this i know..and i always keep one eye over my shoulder
I live alone and tried tapering many times//a 100 mg hydro user..or more if i had more...couldnt do it and would take even more than my normal dose perhaps due to the stress of trying to take less...sux
I also used sub when i was outta pills//not for the right reasons and dint use it to quit cos it buzzed me more than hydro did//so not an option for detox//plus i was scared to death of getting addicted to that sticky drug//it just does not wanna let go it seems///wds up to a month..no thank u
then i had a friend hold my pills to taper//too quick to call a true taper//10 days and i wrote it out and picked my QUIT day...had a 4 day weekend planned off work...unfortunately, i bought pills on the side ...but proud to say i stuck to my quick day...took 70 mgs the day before QUIT day,,,but i stopped..perhaps the taper got me mentally ready anyway...but i was done/.//slap over it and almost excited about stopping this nightmare
I also told my dr that i didnt want them anymore..no drama story just no more....told my dealer i lost my job...never heard from him again..thank goodness..i had no refills so i didnt have to take care of the pharmacy/refills singing to me when i was weak and calling my name  "Come get me"  LOL(:  COL ):
You have someone in u home to hold them for u...good thing for a taper...to be held accountable...there is an article in the health pages on tapering...small doses thru the day....planning it and writing it out//flushing extras//picking a QUIT day also help...plus a plan for aftercare/////physical detox is not the end of this and i think this u know.....aftercare is how a person STAYS clean..getting clean is easy//staying clean is not.....asking ur dr for safe meds to help u thru is a good idea//valium is weaker than xanax so a good choice...also the thomas recipe and exercise helped me alot//the health pages rock!

as far as hardest to wd from???  oxycodone and hydro are very close in strength...oxy slighly stronger but neglible in wd scenario.....percs are short acting as is hydro...a time released oxycodone like oxycontin may be tougher if a person snorts or shoots//chews....as is any drug due to the quick release and bombardment on the brain....sub has a much longer half-life than oxycodone or hydro...some say wd is less intense but up to a month in length..others would say it was intense and lasted a long time//we r all different\..in chemical terms//and if u swallow u meds....the hardst as far as length of time would be sub,,then oxycodone like percs..then hydro///but the dose would have to be equivalent and the time of use comes into play.
Often trying sumpin u have left out in ur detox/recovery plans before is the missing ingredient..what can u do differently this time???  addiction sux major hotdogs..for me the physcal part wasnt thathard...but the mental part liked to have done me in....and i didnt realize this would happen cos i had never stayed clean long enuf to feel the mental aspect of wd.....

keep posting..lots of support here
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