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Hi everyone i have a issue, i dont know if im sick off of methadone wds or the tyn. 4s i was takeing or both? ive been off methadone 4 weeks i used tyn 4s to get me over the hump the doc gave me 90 3 a day but i was takeing up to 8 a day because its not strong enough for methadone wds, so now im confused what im i wd off of? stomach ,i have to run to the toliet quite often, tossing and turning when trying to sleep, thanks john
i Know i screwed up its like i was looking for a reason to get a buzz, i did for awhile after i was done with the methadone, the tyn 4s helped the wds, for awhile i was to stop but i didnt. i didnt take anything at all when i was on methadone, i was to scared to anyways it wouldnt have done anything methadone blocks all opiates, so i have to stop kidding myself, and stop the 4s there not working anyways did for a short while but being a addict only going to make me go up higher to norcos i dont want to start that vicous circle again, we will always be addicts there is no cure just abcsence most of us prob. relapse, but we have to learn to were it got us, i love all of you . youve have done so much for me, if it wasnt for you guys i would have never got off the worse drug in the world, now i know i have to just let the chips fall were there gonna fall and not use, i hope all you newcomers learn something from this, its not worth starting all over again it takes so much work to get straight, just to through it away in one day. to everyone God bless your friend forever John.
John, John..A w/d is a w/d not matter what we use..It is the way the body has to adapt to you getting rid of the poisons..If you keep feeding it then it just takes that much longer to rid..Every one above said it loud and clear!! I want to add one more thing..You can not walk in the coals with out getting burned..OK..Your brain was playing tricks on you..It was rewinding and playing that tape over & over for you to use all the excuses in the world to have "Just one More" So you just prove it to your self that you can not have them around or in your hand..You where suppose to have 3 a day but took 8 a day..So come on John that is the Addictive Behavior..Have you hit any meetings yet?? You can learn alot from your mistake and from others and just move on..I had to stop analyzing all of this and just keep one day at a time and move forward for a happier me and a better future..So now just try not to ride on what if this or that or what one am I sick from ect..Just get up in the morning and move on to a happy place and keep it up..Time is our best Healer..OK. Just get it done it is not going to kill you..But if you keep self medicating your self that might..OK..
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Reread what weaver wrote.
John, there is NO sense trying to figure out what you're w/ding from. Most likely, after 4 weeks, it would be more the codeine, but none of us can tell you that for sure. You're going to start driving yourself nuts worrying about that, and it honestly doesn't matter, as you are going to handle w/d the exact same way, no matter which is causing the majority of symptoms.
I get that you're trying to reassure yourself by hoping the symptoms are from the codeine versus the methadone...and that very well could be true. It's important not to fall back into that thinking pattern that held you back so much in the beginning, where you had tunnel vision and were obsessing about certain things.
You're almost free of all of this. THAT is what you focus on.
John, there is NO sense trying to figure out what you're w/ding from. Most likely, after 4 weeks, it would be more the codeine, but none of us can tell you that for sure. You're going to start driving yourself nuts worrying about that, and it honestly doesn't matter, as you are going to handle w/d the exact same way, no matter which is causing the majority of symptoms.
I get that you're trying to reassure yourself by hoping the symptoms are from the codeine versus the methadone...and that very well could be true. It's important not to fall back into that thinking pattern that held you back so much in the beginning, where you had tunnel vision and were obsessing about certain things.
You're almost free of all of this. THAT is what you focus on.
Oh, okay. You have another 5 days or so for the codeine. It won't be As bad as methadone, but you will have to ride it out. Good food and time are all you need now. At least the methadone has has time to clear out, so now it's time to take lots of walks and wait for your body to balance out. Don't stress, you know what that does. You've worked so hard to get here. Just a little more time. You can do this. Please don't take anymore opiates of any kind, that's all you have to do. Keep posting John, stay focused, you are so close to the finish line.
o no i wasnt takeing tyn 4s when i was on methadone only when i was compleatly off, thats when the wds got bad, john
2 days ago i took the last tyn 4 then the next day all hell broke loose, i keep running to the toliet, and sleeping is big prob.high anxiety, i just didnt know if it was methadone wds or codine, or both iwas suppose to take three a day well i needed 5 aday just to stop methadone wds down the codine of course isnt any match to the methadone thats why i wouldnt do norcos, thats what opiate was my choice, so now im clean i couldnt get any if i wanted to im 11 days to early, the wonders of opiates, doctors wont risk there lic.
Hey John, you said the T4's lasted 2 wks and it's been 4 wks without methadone. I assumed you haven't had anything in 2 wks. Could you clarify please? When was your last pill? We can help more if we know exactly what's going on.
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No wonder your methadone wd's werent so bad, you were eating T4's like candy. Now your body is trying to get rid of the rest of these. Do you have anymore pills laying around?
Absolutely agree with everyone. I know you had said you were taking the tylenol 4's, but I don't recall you ever telling us how much. That's why you did so well on your Methadone detox, because you were still replacing the opiates. I'm not sure any of us realized that. I know I thought you were done. Like everyone else said, now it's time to get to work...no more self medicating and when you feel better from the physical stuff, it's time to start working on your recovery...go to meetings, etc.
When is the last time you took the codeine? How much were you taking, still the 8 a day? It will take about a week or so to get through the worst of the w/d symptoms.
In the end, it doesn't really matter which med is causing the w/d symptoms..I'd say a little bit of both...but w/d is w/d...so don't get overly focused on that...you would treat w/d symptoms the same either way.
Hang in there John...this is the last stretch to freedom.
When is the last time you took the codeine? How much were you taking, still the 8 a day? It will take about a week or so to get through the worst of the w/d symptoms.
In the end, it doesn't really matter which med is causing the w/d symptoms..I'd say a little bit of both...but w/d is w/d...so don't get overly focused on that...you would treat w/d symptoms the same either way.
Hang in there John...this is the last stretch to freedom.
John, More opiate in any form is a bandaid. When you take a shower, it falls off and exposes your wound again. Surrender. Time to finally get through this and into the light of total freedom. Time to start working on your day to day recovery, and be completely out from the WDs while doing so. You can do this! You're in my thoughts and when we open our meeting at 11AM this morning and have a moment of silence for the still suffering, you will be the person I'm thinking about. We all want you to be the very next miracle here.
Hang in there Ponco.Now is the time to drop the t4 ad just get through the last little discomfort part of this. If you are sleeping at all you are lucky .
You're almost there buddy.
You're almost there buddy.
You are like feeling both. They are both opiates and work on the same part of the brain. You are over the hump, all opiates are out of your system. What you feel now is your brain not having kicked in yet. Until all opiates are avoided, the brain does not make it's natural pain killers. Now, it's time to do as much exercise as possible, eat real good, and wait. I know the doctor was trying to help by giving you the tyl 4s, but you would be through most of this by now otherwise. Hang in there, get to a meeting, and stay busy. It's been 2 wks since any codeine, you will be feelin better soon. You can do it.
your body didn't fully detox from the methadone yet. when you took the codeine you were still putting opiates into your system.
of course it helped with withdrawal because you were still taking opiates.
now that the codeine is gone you will start to totally detox your system of the opiates.
don't take anymore opiates and you will begin to heal.
of course it helped with withdrawal because you were still taking opiates.
now that the codeine is gone you will start to totally detox your system of the opiates.
don't take anymore opiates and you will begin to heal.
thank you i didnt know if its from codine or methadone its been 4 weeks no methadone i thought it would be done, the codine help with the wds, but 90 only got me 2 weeks ihad to take more, because the methadone is so much stronger then the codine, so i guess its methadone wds? john
Hi John the codeine just would have prolonged the meth detox.
John please stop self medicating. It is going to take time to heal. Do tues anything else ok?
Take immodium. Eat bananas, rice, apples and toast. Keep yourself busy. Exercise. Reduce your caffeine intake.
Get protein powder for shakes.. Please try to be patient.
Get alteril to help with your sleep.
Sending Prayers,
Debbie
John please stop self medicating. It is going to take time to heal. Do tues anything else ok?
Take immodium. Eat bananas, rice, apples and toast. Keep yourself busy. Exercise. Reduce your caffeine intake.
Get protein powder for shakes.. Please try to be patient.
Get alteril to help with your sleep.
Sending Prayers,
Debbie
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