just finished my de-tox against doctors orders and methods took control myself. i was on a one way road to death using heroin since was 15 spent nearly 2 years on methadone then listening to demotivational doctors and councillers telling me i will never get off it i'l be on it for life. i said no way i'm coming off it and after alot of arguing i had the doc bring me down 5ml every 2 weeks till i got to 20 then i went down in 2ml a week took me a lil over a year did not set a timeline witch i now know was a smart choice maybe if i wasn't feeling good id wait longer but once your detoxing its 90 percent your mind 10 percent physical get your mind in the right place and nothing is impossibal i hhave refused sleep and anti anxiety meds cause i dont simply want to replace it for a new addiction i know the very minimal pain i'm feeling will soon be pleasure life is what you make it if anyone needs help or pointers i will help because god helped me i shall help others too like i promised him those nights i cried and begged for help so message me or comment your life is in your hands
I wish you well also and hope that you can get off the booze and get completely clean and sober in the near future. This is a great place for support. Ask others how they did it and hopefully you will find a way. Keep posting.
thanks guys yeah i realised a long time ago been honest and admitting my problems speaking out when i'm low does really help i wear my heart on my sleeve before when i didn't talk i would become my own victim alcohol is just as bad but my old ways are still there just in different ways like alcohol but i can keep control on things but still will avoid the trigger situations people,places,mindset i swear the pain i love because it will soon be pleasure thanks for the comments guys much apprieciated :)
If you think for a minute you are controlling your drinking you are wrong. Alcohol has a way of sneaking up on you and it takes you down harder than you can imagine. Please check yourself on this one. I've been there and it is WAYYYYYY ugly.
I agree with the earlier warnings about alcohol. You have put in a lot of hard work getting clean and should feel great about that but I urge you to rethink the drinking thing. The addict getting clean and continuing to drink story seldom, if ever, ends well. I say that because I am that guy. kk
Hi I don't know you but I just want to say I really admire you for quitting . My husband is an addict. He's addicted to morphine and crystal meth. I've been trying to get him help for a long time now. I've made him appt and he doesn't go for help. His mood swings are so hard for me to handle sometimes. He tried to stop on his own and became very I'll for a week. I took care of him and he started feeling better. I thought it was because he was getting over withdrawals but it was because he stared using again. I don't want to leave him but I'm not sure how long I can mental and physically keep doing this myself. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
sorry to hear that butterfly, it can be hard alright i seen what it did to my family, you might not like to hear this but i'd rather be honest getting clean will never work for the person unless they want it themself, i mean they really need to hit rock bottom before it really sets in but i admire you for standing by him it can really be tough, but he needs to find the issue that brought him to where he is now and address it. i'm not a expert but am speaking from my own expierience i would say to try get off meth 1st then try get off opiates as they have more established treatment methods in place if he has access but maybe you and those closest can sit down and talk to him show him what its doing to your lives and remind him that it can be done doesn't work for most people but does for some how long has he been using?
i agree with you there too but i was a alcoholic drank so much when i was 16 my heart stopped they had to use a defibrillator to get me back to life i was lucky i was found or i'd of been dead i was that bad i left the hospital after having my stomach pumped and went drinking again, took me till i was 18 to give it up just been drinking about once or twice a week since i know what to avoid i know when not to drink like funerals, want to stop it altogether tho no withdrawls no more so will soon just finding something to do to fill the time is hard but works
true i agree there on the clinic i was on witch has been open 12 years i was the only one so far to detox off it most peoples minds they forget non drug using behaviour cause there after been spending each day in the same routine for years its hard to train the mind back to what it used to be i was able to i.d my triggers and situations where i would be high risk of relapse but you might not beleive me but i really hated everyday so much i would never put myself at risk again, but i understand your point and one thing i said i'd never do is replace one addiction with the other its pointless thats why didn't take benzo's or sleeping pills since i got off them even tho they were there if i wanted them off a doctor like last night there was loads of beer there but i only had 2 bottles and didn't want more if was before i would not sleep till it was gone i dont think about it all the time its weird but i really have retrained my way of thinking but will be cutting drink out soon, thanks for the concern
I think you would be wise to listen to the other posters. There are some things you say that are concerning, and contradictory. You say you were a bad alcoholic at 18, and almost died as a result, but now, you have it under control. You give the example of there being a lot of beer where you were, but you only had two. That's good on one hand, but bad in a lot of others.
For one, I know if it were me, if I had to be revived because something almost killed me, I would never go near it again. And to only drink one or two beers, what's even the point? I think you're risking an awful lot, just to engage in some social drinking.
"its hard to train the mind back to what it used to be i was able to i.d my triggers and situations where i would be high risk of relapse "
That's exactly what you're doing! You're putting yourself in the line of fire! Not to mention, alcohol impairs your judgement and lowers your inhibitions. If there is ANY time you would talk yourself into using, it would be when you have alcohol on board.
"but i understand your point and one thing i said i'd never do is replace one addiction with the other its pointless thats why didn't take benzo's or sleeping pills since i got off them even tho they were there if i wanted the"
I sincerely think you're fooling yourself. You have BEEN an alcoholic, and a drug addict, what makes you think you would be immune to the risk? You're trying to say that you didn't take benzos or sleeping pills, yet, you're trying to justify your drinking. Don't you think that's a bit hypocritical? I don't say that to be mean, I'm just being honest.
I just think you're fooling yourself. If you're only drinking here and there, small amounts, you don't have to cut down, or wait to start a plan to quit, just quit. You shouldn't have any w/ds if you're drinking the small amounts you say you are. There's NO way all that hard work getting off the Methadone is worth risking for a few social drinks! If you REALLY think it's a concern and you want to quit, just do so. Sounds to me like you're putting it off for some reason, which also sets off alarm bells for me.
I think it's super commendable that you want to help people here, with your experiences, but I honestly don't think you're in any place to do so at this point, plus, you're totally sending the wrong message to people. You're giving the impression that it's okay to indulge, once you've gotten "control". An addict is never in control. An addict lives day to day, and an addict is forever at risk for relapse. The more you expose yourself to triggers, the more likely you're going to end up in a bad place again.
Best wishes to you...hope you really think about this.
I think I get what you are saying, but for me its just so risky. I take hydro for chronic pain and being an addict-alcoholic I occasionally misstep and fall off prescribed med schedule. Just went through 15 day detox-withdrawals. My DOC's are heroin and alcohol. Haven't used heroin for 24 years and booze for 3, but during wdraws I craved both (intensely!!!); for me using any substance, legitimate or not, keeps those cravings alive and well. Alcohol lowers inhibitions, affects judgement etc; add to that the fact that I am compulsive and have very little impulse control......well,you get the picture. I think you are doing great; I just hope you give the alcohol thing plenty of thought. All the best, kk
i agree, get rid of the alcohol and the triggers and you'll be in the position to really help, and being able to help is key to relapse prevention. Right now, you're not sober. You need to become clean and sober, to help yourself and to help others. I think that it's remarkable what you've done, you've got one more thing to do, to make it real. Best of luck with becoming clean and sober and being able to help others to do the same, You're on the right road, so Congratulations for all you've done so far!!!
I am on my first day of my detox from methadone. I was on 140 milligrams a day for 8 years and I came down 10 milligrams every Monday and Thursday. Yesterday was my last day, I took 10 milligrams. Is there any advise u can give my on how to get through this hard time that's about to come?
hey will, i came down off it over a year gradually are you on a clinic or just buying from the street you getting any withdrawls? i didn't get much pain coming off but i was tapering down 5 mg about every 2 weeks and 2mg every 2 weeks after 20 mg but if i didn't feel good i'd hold on the dose for another 2 weeks to let my body adjust but everyone is different how long did it take you to get down to nothing and you have my respect for getting there only annoying things i had was feeling cold and sleeping but that dies off after a week or 10 days how are you feeling today?
That's great how u did it, I wish I was smart enough to had done it like that while I had the chance. But yes I was at clinic that sucked me in and drained me of ME. They put me on administrative detox for taking Xanax that I've been prescribed to ever since I was 18 and now I'm 28. The doctor at my clinic started a zero tolerance for benzos, even with prescription. I know it's dangerous but I only take 0.5 milligrams twice a day. When they started detoxing me I could have fought it or just stopped taking Xanax, but I figured it was The Lord telling me its time. Anyway when I got to 20 I started feeling restless legs, body aches, and cold sweats followed by flushing hot flashes. I sleep alright because the Xanax. But that's how I've been feeling since I was on 20 and 10, and now. THANKS for the support brother it's nice too have someone that has been there.
yeah there pretty much the same here about benzo's bro they do not want anyone taking them. but all the dis comfort should go in a week after 3 days it wont get any worse man but gradually better hold on in there dude pain is gain
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