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methadone detox

im on 10mgs of methadone, ive been  comming down from a dose of 250mgs and im in so much pain, ive been trying to supplement my pain with ultram, and motrin 800mgs. its not bad during the day but i hate to go to sleep because when i wake up, im sick as a pig.
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Hey Cookie welcome to the forum....congrats on successfully tapering down to 10 from 250 thats a real accomplishment...the last little bit is the hardest I remember going threw 4 days of withdrawals every time I drop 1ml off my taper...I was going 1ml a week when I got to 10 and just when you start to feel better you have to drop doses again....it su##s
hang in there you just about got this thing beat dont give up right b/4 the blessing you could be done in another 5 weeks...I tapered all. the way down to 1ml but dont recommend it because tapering below 5ml is miserable...if I had to do it over I would jump off at 5ml...my final withdrawals where no worst then tapering below 5ml so save yourself some agony and start on the road to recovery a little sooner...keep posting for support ...it helps to have someone to talk to wile doing this...we will be here to encourage you and to help keep you moving in the right direction ...there are several of us that know just how hard it is to get off methadone and im sure all will be supportive...right now get down to walmart and pick up a 3 in one vitamin...
calcium/magnesium/zinc...its only 6 bucks for 250 it will really reduce the withdrawals your feeling...take 4 at breakfast and 4 with dinner in a couple of days you should start to notice some releaf ..I wish I would have found this sooner it helps a lot methadone really depletes those vitamins out of your system and thats part of why its withdrawals are so bad....in the morning try a hot soak if you have the time it really helps with the aches and pains...try to keep a positive attitude it goes a long way in how you feel..and right now get comfortable with the saying....''you just got to be ok without being ok for a wile" it will get better once your free of the liquid handcuffs...ill be in touch good luck and God bless......Gnarly            
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hi i am from the UK we get our drug treatment through our NHS National health service. So thank god there is no body making money from our addiction as i understand its not the same over in the usa, Ive been taking Meth for two years after a year or so I started to drop from 5mil a week from 70ml then when I hit 30mil started to feel it some. at that point I changed to a 1mil drop every week. in my last week i dropped from 4ml to one so I would finish in time for the weeks holiday i booked from work. the worst night I had was after I took the last 1mil its now the third day and I feel almost fine apart from a fit of sneezing ect but none of the extreme stuff ive been used to when ive detoxed from just heroin alone. is this the calm before the storm or because ive suffered the last few weeks while dropping so rapidly has my body all ready started to produce its own natural opiates and this is the reason i am not going through what i was expecting? I would be very great full for any feed back from anyone on this matter. thank you        
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First off congratulations on getting to 10mg, that in itself is a major accomplishment that proves you have what it takes.  I am fresh off my last dose 5 days ago, I did a fairly rapid detox from 20mg to 5 mg over the course of a month, it was not a nice ride down, but I had situations confronting me that made it necessary.  From the information and wisdom on this site, I started a strong amino acid/vitamin regimen, including 2-a-day workout sessions when I got the 5 mg and jumped after 5 days at that dose.  Not sure if it is my mind, but that stuff helps.  Actually, it makes perfect sense if you realize that it is a matter of allowing our brains, nervous systems, and digestive systems to repair.  My wife is studied Biology and teaches science and told me that it roughly takes the body 90 days to regenerate, meaning we shed old cells and produce new ones every 90 days, it is almost like we can replace our bodies in that time period. (at least that is way I like to think of it)

I will not speak to the WDs because we all know them well, but what I will say is that the wisdom in Gnarly's phrase is dead-on.  I think until we come to grips with the WDs as a way of life for a brief minute, the mental battle will be way rough.
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HEY Cookie good to see you post again....going from 10 to 5 is a 50% drop in dose ...thats a lot at one time...your probably really going to feel this one so be ready for it...it would be better to do it in 2 bumps rather then one big jump...but will support what ever your coarse of action is...the last little bit is always the hardest so hang in there...if you can pull this one off this week wait 7 days then jump off all together...my final withdrawal was no worst then tapering below 5ml so jump at 5 and save yourself the agony of tapering further keep us posted on how this goes for you...I hope it goes ok....mabe just some aches and pains and no sleep...but every withdrawal is different so keep a positive attitude and dont read anything into it,,,it will be what it will be and all you can do is cope with it the best you can
where all out here for your support good luck and God bless.....Gnarly    
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glad to hear you want this. i know it is not easy but alot has to do with the mental battle. try to stay positive and post. post, post. i recently checked into a detox facility as my addiction went crazy. while i was in there i met somebody who c/t off of 150 mg of methadone. he was two weeks clean and seemed to be doing well. although he did look tired. i give him alot of credit and he was amazing. i dont think i could have done it. i have over a week clean and every day gets better. i had a 300 mg habbit of oxy or roxies. this had been the easiesty time for me on withdrawls for some reason. i think i have a different mind set. i want this so badly. i have hit aftercare every day whether it is na or aa and some days two meetings a day. and i am readind the big book. i truly think this is my last chance as io have burnt so many bridges. i would still be in detox but i was out of county so they discharged me, i dont like to talk about it. i am trying to get into a program and back into a detox facility everyday as family is bugging me aboput it. but that is what i want to. hope to haer a success story from you as i would love to see one. keep up the good fight. you are well on your way.
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Hi everyone, im really scared because im going down to 5mgs tommorow, its going to be my last week on the clinic after 12yrs im happy to get off ared of the pain bcuz i know 2-3 days after i take my last dose its going to hit me like a train. i have been down this road b/4 i was on 90mg. and got sent to a womans prison here in massachusetts and it was so bad 2 friends of mine hung themselves in solitary becuz they couldnt stand the pain. I keep telling myself the longer i stay on it the harder it will be not to mention its only a matter of time b/4 medicaid throws everyone off the clinic because of budget cuts they dont even pay for dentures anymore how long do u think it will be b/4 all of the drug addicts get the boot.
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HI, I too detoxed off methadone from a clinic. I was there 4yrs adn was at 120mg for at least 2.5 years, then started my taper, (i am not to give taper advice, this is what the clinic told me), i did 3mg/wk and stayed at a lot of doses for a 2 weeks or so, but never went back up, I was relatively pain free, just had side effects that I didn't really attribute to the methadone,  I just thought that is just me (like i only got 4-5 hours sleep the whole last year of tapering) since it had been soo long since i lived without the drugs (i did 4 years of oxys, norcs before hitting the clinic). So, i took over 14 months to taper from 120mg (Iiquid form, pink drink they gave every morning, damn i hate that place!!!) to 9mg, then just left after being at 9 for like 3 weeks. When i left (and i don't recommend this after reading all this bad info on it) i had a few suboxone, i nibbled on one each morning only, took about 1/4 of a pill each morning (even though i didn't sleep all that well) for only 2 weeks, then nothing. First day or two was not absolutely terrible (which screwed me up mentally since i started thinking this is not gonna be that bad), but then day 3 and especially night 3 and day 4, I was getting really weak mentally, it was this forumn which kept me from 'hunting'....if you know what i mean! After utilizing the thomas recpie i am happy to report day 11!!! It is a long road, especially with the stupid PAWS i just found about, but keep on truckin, you know, i really like this guy called gnarly_1 on this forumn, and he has a cool saying which i am starting to chant, 'I just have to be okay without feeling okay for a while', i know it doesn't mean s**t for the first week, but after that, it can give motivation. Keep going, you WILL make it, just remember, each day will be better (after day 4) things will begin to improve. I suggest to follow amino acid protocol or thomas recpie, they should help a lot, also, you want to know what i found to be REALLY A GREAT AMAZING IDEA? Go get a free week at a gym which has a sauna, pool, and jacuzzi, plus maybe a bike or treadmill. They will give free weeks, and when i am in the sauna sweating like a fat pig, i feel like the toxins are coming out with the sweat. Seriously, try the gym thing, it is hard to get up and go there, let alone talk with the salesman (just tell him that you don't want the tour, or the spheal about the gym, just anxious to try, some gyms, the less popular ones, are fighting for buisness so they won't have a problem with this) but when you get there,  swim laps, hit the sauna, and jacuzzi. I actually feel like this is where i am going to focus my addict energy on, become addicted (bad choice of words but you know what i mean) to gym adn health and recovery instead of getting high. Good luck, I am here to talk, I can help i think, but remember, i am not a doc, just a fellow detoxer!
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Hi!  I'm sorry you are in pain.  The WD can make pain seem ten times worse.  Hang on, because it does get better.  I want to caution you on taking Ultram.  It is highly addictive, and it's extremely hard to get off of!

Have you read the thomas recipe?  

The reason you are sick when you wake up is because of the WDs, I'd say.  Mornings can be rough. Your body is waiting on it's dose.  

You are doing great so far.  Congrats on getting down to 10mg!  
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Hi.  I just stopped taking methadone on Monday past,after a taper.After being at 250mg ,10mg is going to be uncomfortable to say the least. Is your pain due to the meth W/D,or is the pain the reason you were on the methadone?
How fast you dropped will have an effect on how you feel too,but you must know that.You took 2 1/2 years to get to 10mg.
  I read some posts of yours,and truly feel some if not all of the things you talk of like clinics having the cuffs on us.And sweat like a ******* pig.  Maybe stay at ten till your body adjusts,because I found below 10 is the hardest part.
Hang in there and keep posting,it does help you.                             karl
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