methadone detox

[learning2befree]

I have been off methadone for a few weeks (highest dose 150mg lowest 15mg)  after 3years in a "clinic". my adiction to oc's prior to the methadone was 2 1/2 years (a couple 80's a day) Prior to that excluding my 2 pregnancys I used some form of drug since I was 12 (pot, cocaine, alcohol, ice, x, pills, etc.) never on a regular basis just experimenting mostly I was in highschool "everyone was doing it" so I thought addiction couldnt happen to me nothing I ever did made me crave it or flake on my responsabilities, which were many since I had no father and an alcoholic& addict mother who didnt give a s***t what I did as long as I gave her money for the bills. I had a full time job ever since 14 and went to school. I did graduate with a beautiful son at 18. I continued to use recreationaly when I had a babysitter I had another son at 24 and my boyfriend said neither of us would use anything except pot & alcohol anymore I was fine with that I stopped smoking pot already and didnt like drinking. but after I had my baby he was gone all the time hanging out w/friends or at work. I started hanging with my sister who used oc's I started using them I honestly thought it was no big deal well 6monthes later I went out of town while i was gone I thought I got the flu came home did an oc and was better! I couldnt believe it I was ADDICTED so I leep useing them(stupid) until my boyfriend caught me 2 years later. after a week of detoxing we thought the clinic was the best optoin(stupid)well here I am still trying to kick It seems impossable. I keep taking lose dose opiates&the thomas recipe just to care for my family Im so lost

[OXY_FREE]

I just wanted to stop by and say Hi !!!
            OXY

[learning2befree]

going to taper until shortly before thanksgiving vacation so I will be in at my worst for the holiday lol no really my kids are going to go to grandmas for thanksgiving and Im going to work my a** off till then so I can be prepared for these full on w/d's I want to thank you for your hope and encouragement someone cheering you on really helps when you start to doubt yourself I hope you are doing well and if i can ever return the favor let me know I'll talk to ya soon, Jenni

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Hi Jenni
I can just see that you will do this, As i said i did the same taper that you are doing.
If you cut down to 2 a day i dont think you will have to wait till next month.or when you get stable on 2 start taking 1 and a half. You really need to be PROUD of yourself.
you got this! ! ! talk soon, OXY

[learning2befree]

thanks for the encouragement your excitement makes me smile which rarely happens lately!!!!!

[learning2befree]

I am sorry if you are disapointed that I have to wait but I feel I will be better prepared next month I was taken aback by how hard getting off the methadone is compared to all the other drugs I have been on  I really understand what you are saying also  but I have an autisic son who needs my attention and all the responsabilities of being a mom and having a job like most here I am not saying at all that w/d doesnt need to happen I just need to collect some more support first I understand you are seeing excuses and maybe I am making excuses I dont believe for a sec. that my mind isnt affected by the methadone but I see the reality that I can not do this w/o some more help I do still see you & everyone else here as support even though you dont completely agree with me never be sorry for your comments I do appreciate them I know you have been where I am now and have knowledge I do not so keep in touch

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sometimes people can do a taper plan and have it work for them,
jenni has set goals for herself and followed through with action,she will remain steadfast in her convictions... WAY TO GO JENNI ! ! ! ....you can do this...

[sadinmichigan]

we all rob our bodies of the essential nutrients it needs...thats pretty typical of drug abuse..

[sadinmichigan]

sweetheart I understand..I have 6 children..and all that stuff to do too...also to clean the house, do laundry,make dinner,go grocery shopping..etc..and NOBODY to help...I did i all by myself..we can make all the excuses that we wan becaue truthfully there is no shortage of them..and I am not trying to be a smartass...it's the truth..but there is no time like the present to get off the **** and get on with it..Ido understand what your saying..I really do..

[learning2befree]

I have tryed and I have no illusion that it will be a picnic if I taper with vics. I have not used methadone in 2weeks but right now I need to be functional for my family and business I am still using the thomas recipe and some amino acids and by the end of my taper I will be in better health so I am hoping that will help some. while I was on methadone I did not take care of myself and the methadone robbed my body of any nutrients I did put in it. I have a bunch of stuff like parent teacher conf. and kids dentist appts and b-days in the very near future I need to be there for them now as I have no one else to help me with them thier dad has to work ALOT. I do appreciate your opinion and dont think you are lying by anymeans but I will have some time off over thanksgiving and I am going to try again then untill then I am going to keep coming here, going to NA, and tapering with the assitance of my boyfriend . I understand the importance of sobriety I lost my best friend to an overdose 6 months after he lost his brother to an overdose. I am no rookie to detoxing I am hoping it will be alittle easier... true but there are others issues right now. thanks for your comments I do find them helpful hopefully you understand

[sadinmichigan]

ok..listen.you are not going to get away with less w/ds from tapering off methadone..I am sorry...but I have friends that went off less than I did and ha no better time of it..methadone is an unforgiving drug and doesn't care who you are or what dose your on...just quit it now..it won't be easier if you stay on opiates...I have no reason to lie..I did it too..it wasn't fun..

[sadinmichigan]

I am sorry but I agree with daystrom...you are torturing yourself by taking what you are..just stop and get it over with..we both know how hard it is..i went cold off 65mgs of methadone..no picnic..but he onl way in my opinion...you will be fine soon if you just stop..you already feel like ****..why prolong it??

[learning2befree]

thanks all this is very helpful

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It  is a very scary time,Its just the unknown,and no that is not horrible at least your going to na... now back to the taper. you have a good plan and i know you are going to do this.
you have made up your mind.I took one 5mg in the morning and one 5mg in the afternoon
that way your body can get used to it,then you can go to one a day,                              i dont think your  vic w/d
will be anything like the meth w/d
please keep posting and let us know how it's going,I will be checking on you to see how  you are doing. OXY

[learning2befree]

I was taking them every 3-4 days cuz i would go insane and go out and grab em, I cant even drive myself because Im in such agony that I cant pay attention to the road. I am completely sick and getting worse! I wasnt making 4 days with any sense of even being anything but horrifid if you know what I mean. I want to take a couple a day and taper from there, now with boyfriend on board thats possable. I only go to na after i take a vic thats horrible huh but I still learn alot there and I am not high or anything  I TRUELY want off drugs and sometimes there are people in the parking lot exchanging #'s for all the wrong reasons so I try to not feel so bad about how I got there. I know it will still be very hard even after the taper but from my experiance I get better at it everytime I try to get clean its like a science no1 teachs, but since being on this forum I have learned so I guess all of you teach with all your experiences and I want to thank you

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I was on that stuff way to long and girl way to much,but it really sounds like your doing great,you have even been going to na.WOW.
ok so your doing the taper,but im not sure about the way your doing it.you said you were taking them enery 3 or 4 days,but how much are you taking?when you do.
the goal is to get down to like 5mg a day then jump off but if you have gone 4days without anything you might be ready to jump off.after my taper i was really sick for 4 days but then i started getting better not fast but a little eveyday.
I had to work through it also.YIKES no fun...
anyway how long has it been since you have taken anything?

[learning2befree]

any help is welcome! my boyfriend who at first was totally against me taking anything narcotic to help now wants me to try to taper on a low dose opiate(i know I will feel withdrawal anyway just not so dibilitating) after he spent a few days seeing me in such agony and he has NO help with me in bed we have kids and run a very small business that I do all the paperwork on. methadone is the hardest drug ever to detox from... You know the feeling if you were on a high dose if oc's a day. I know every1 is differant but my health is not the greatest due to long term abuse. I havent ate right or got any exercise except chasing pills, LOL, since I started oc's then the methadone destroyed my body even more

[OXY_FREE]

I just did this and you can do it to...
I started my taper from oxy(to many) LOL
then i went to vics and made it down to 2 5mg a day then i jumped off all the way.
i would be happy to help you through it if you like.
let me know,OXY

[daystrom]

Stop completely.  You are at present torturing yourself for no good reason.  As long as you take hydrocodone every few days you will never withdraw completely.  There are meds you can take to stop the puking and what not.

Ray

[learning2befree]

relapsed on lower dose opiates like vicodin about every 3-4 days not taking enough to feel good but enough to stop throwing up I know this is hardly recovery just an exsistance but the more I learn here and at na the stronger I feel and hope to be able to quit opiates all together very soon

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Can you tell me how long you have been off the meth, and what kind of low dose opiate
you are taking now,maybe i can help a little more
talk soon ,OXY

[daystrom]

Hey Jenni, sorry I am a bit confused.  You are off methadone for a few weeks (and everything else) or you have relapsed into using oxy after coming off the methadone?

In any case, there are no easy answers, are there.  It totally *****.  You have loads of reasons to quit and to stay clean, just look into yer kids eyes.  Thats a start.  Beyond that you have to dig inside yourself, dig deep and find that reason not to use.  Beyond that there is not much more I can say.  Ultimately, you know what you have to do, and why you have to do it, just put all the pieces of the puzzle into place and there you have it.

I wish you well.

all the best, ray