methadone withdrawal

[memily79]

Hi, my name is emily and i have been reading these posts for about two weeks.  it's all been very inspiration and thanks to individuals like thomas a little less painful.  tonight is my 6th night off methadone. i was at 70 mgs in beginning of october and took my last dose of 9 mgs tuesday morning (today Sun).  i also tried to do this a week ago and failed miserably, but i think it's because of some tramadol i had.  i had no idea it was anything more than glorified asprin.  it ruined my ******* life.  anyway, i'm going ok now.  i have about 5 klonopin left.  i take them once a day, and .5 mgs of clonidine left.  thinks are progressing, but i'm scared i'm not gonna be me again for a long time.  my son is acting out, and i'm just so blah.  i also take all the vitamin supplements suggested by other posts.  please tell me how i can speed this up.  i like to run and have been running 5 miles give or take almost every day.  will that help?  should i try to get in a sauna and sweat it out?  if i take tramadol again, can i make it happen hard and fast?  my husband goes back to work tuesday!

[memily79]

i know everyone is busy right now, and now that i look back a lot of the forums i was reading were 5 or so years old.  i just need someone, anyone to talk to.  i feel like i'm feeling my way through the dark.  any guidance, no matter how mundane it might seem, would be so great!
thanks

[memily79]

thank you so much for responding.  i just don't know what it's like for people who have succeeded.  please tell me the long version of your story.  and what days 8-14 were like.  do you think exercisng (which i enjoy) is helping, or is there something else i can do to speed this process?
merry christmas to you to

[memily79]

thank you for your time and all the info you shared.  can you direct me to anyone else who you think i might glean something pertinent or even just interesting from?  either way, i love hearing your stories?  how long since you used?  what day did you feel like your old self again?

[memily79]

thank you so much for taking all the time to reach out to me.  today is day 8 and my husband's going to work right now.  (i am a full-time student and will be graduating in may) but i have to take classes online right now, b/c we can't afford day care.  anyway, i'm going to try and be very busy today.  i know i cannot sit and stare at these four walls today, or i will invent w/d.  have a good day

[orangefyre]

yeah, Saturday. I didn't think i could get through Christmas. Yes, I confided in my daughter, she is my best and ONLY friend. It's me and her against the world. I am hoping she will see how hard this is and not go there (if you know what i mean) I'm jittery, and just started having some strange stomach cramps. My legs feel like they could run a marathon, but my body can't. So, all in all I feel like stir fried cr*p. I was taking 2 wafers a day 80mgs. Sometimes more if i had some stress. I started it to get away from an abusive boyfriend. This is the last thing of HIS hanging onto me, I WANT HIM GONE COMPLETELY!
I have said my goodbyes to my dealer (the one who said he was MY FRIEND) and am using this vacation away from work to get control. How long does this last, do you know?

[memily79]

i went to a health food store and got some detoxing organic tea.  it has "burdock dandelion and sarsaparilla" as its main ingredients.  does anybody know if it will actually help cleanse the drugs out of me or is it just to make you poo?
also, i was thinking about going to a sauna tomorrow.  my dosing nurse at the MMT clinic said there's only 3 ways to get rid of methadone:  pee it out, sweat it out, and wait it out.  So does that mean if i run, drink a whole lot, and sweat a whole lot i can hurry it up?  or do i just need to let it go, b/c it happens to be something i can't control?

[orangefyre]

Do you REALLY have the energy to run up a sweat? God knows, I can't even make it to the bathroom with out expending ALL of my energy. :-) I have heard of lots of things on this forum, but one was never answered and you even asked about it, THAT ENERGY COCKTAIL, remember? Did anyone ever answer you? The Thomas recipe shows promise, and I personally have never heard of anyone dying from it as claimed somewhere on here. What's the name of the Detox Tea?

[gipsee]

2001 I had a bowel resection.   That surgery left me not being able to take advil, NASAIDS in general.   My original Rx for Hydrocodone was 60 a month.   I used one/hald a pill four times a day for two years.  All was good w/the world.   Didn't necessarily have any real changes in my behavior I didn't crave them, it was just something I did 4x's a day.   Now, I'm a 57 year old female and I am a professional (not that it matters what I do for a living) who should really know better.   Actually I was no stranger to recreational drugs...pot and Coke but the Coke did get out of control.   One morning I was getting ready for work (about 10 years ago) and I had some very old John Denver Vinyls on the stereo.   There is a song on that that is entitled "Some Days are Diamonds"... a verse that goes.... "there's a face I see in the mirror, more and more is a stranger to me...more and more I can see there is a danger of becoming what I never thought I'd be"  while that verse was playing on the stereo..I was brushing my teeth.   That day, I broke up w/my "live-in" at the time, quit my job, and put my house up for sale.  ALL IN ONE DAY... I knew I had to get out of the whirlwind "however much fun I was having" I had to get out while there was still hope of getting out.   So I did.   I moved 60 miles away and started all over again.   I have never touched Cocaine again, and have never smoked another joint.  At this point I'd have to say....I was maintaining I was a weekend warrior.   But that wouldn't have lasted.   Whatever made me take some of those steps that day totally behooves me...but it's part of my story.   I do Surgeon to Patient Marketing for specialty surgeries.... I moved and have been doing very well... 'til that bowel resection and my terrible bouts with arthritis.   Two pills a day went to three pills a day... to 6 pills a day ... to 8 pills a day.  Of Vicodins.    I've an 84 year old mother to take care of...a 3200 sq ft house ... I'm not married I'm a widow, so there is a lot on my shoulders.  I needed to keep going ... IN THE BEGINNING the hydros keep me moving...but during the last year... things have changed... not only was I doing more.... I was getting less done... going through bouts of anxiety that were unbearable....so the Dr. just gave me an RX for Zanax... ewwwwwwww... they are horrible.   Truthfully I'm still using them 2x's a day to help with some of these withdawal symptoms...but I stopped them a couple weeks ago cold turkey as well.   I figured 1 mg a day to get off of will be a piece of cake once I start to feel better.

Last Wed 3pm was my last 15mg dose of Hydrocodone.   I wasn't prepared for how awful I'm feeling, although, I have to say I feel somewhat (SOMEWHAT HUMAN) TODAY....I called the Dr. for some Lamotil for the runs.... that's the worst expecially at night my stomach cramps are over the top.   I bet I haven't eaten 6 ozs of food since last Wed., and my belly is all swollen looks like I'm preggers.    I'm skinny enough, I didn't need to lose weight, but I imagine this is just temporary.   I wear a size 4 .... yesterday a pair of jeans just hung off my hips.    I'm going to have so much fun gaining back weight when I can actually get my taste back for food.

I looked at my scenario 2 ways.... I could continue on the path I was on knowing full well I was becoming more and more dysfunctional...or I could try to straighten out what was wrong.

I actually feel like doo-doo... I'm into this for 5 days...We all have choices to make.   Not one of us here are better than the other....not one drug is less than the other....Addiction and dysfunction DUE to addiction to ANYTHING puts us all in the same boat.

I'm drinking water, taking Zinc, Vit C, a Multi, B-Stress complex and eating what I can.   I'm going to go to the Vit Shop to look for the super enegery stuff I read in Someone description of "someting" cocktail.   I have no energy.   Was I prepared for "it" to be this bad... NOPE....   This will certainly be a Xmas to remember.  And I'm going to.

Good Luck to you....I hope this helps you a little.   I've never had methadone....I was really afraid to go that route.   It may have made this a bit easier... but then I would have had to taper from that as well.  

I wish you well sweetie... if you have the chance to get out of whatever it is your are into at the moment... go for it.   Life is way to short and this cripples anyone of us who is affected by it.

XoXo
Gip

[memily79]

oh man i am so tired.  i'm taking every vitamin known to man, and trying to eat right and exercise, but my eyes are always so heavy.  what energy cocktail are you talking about?  tell me if it works.  i have a really high tolerance for caffeine, but i've been trying to go easy on it for the last few days.  also i hate to take naps, b/c sleeping at night is so hit or miss.... as you know.

[orangefyre]

I need help! This Christmas was a slap in the face for me. I am an addict. I do not use methadone for pain, I use it for the high. It started when I was in an abusive relationship that I am no longer in. That's the last hold he has on me. I want it gone. I am quitting cold turkey and have the jitters today. I cannot believe this forum is here! I am pleasantly surprised that I am not alone, cause I sure do feel that way right now. I am a single mom of a 16 yo daughter, and we have a dog. Just so you know a little about me.
I took my last wafer Saturday night, and I refuse to buy any more. My dealer calls himself my friend, but would a friend get me started on this ****? no! Anyway I have seen a couple of things that were written that help with withdraw symptoms. Can u tell me what they are?
I'm sorry if I don't do or say something the right way, this is my first time and Im not sure how this works. Any help would be appreciated.
:-)

[orangefyre]

I know it's the day after Christmas, but isn't there anyone out there...

[memily79]

wow, so saturday was the last time you had methadone?  what are you feeling so far?  i went back to some things from 2001 on here.  i don't exactly remember how i got there, but this guy thomas gives a straight-up recipe for cold-turkey methadone withdrawal.  
this is my first time on here too.  i wish i could tell you more.  how much methadone were you taking?  is it possible for you to in-patient detox?  does your child know anything?  it just seems like its going to be very hard for you w/o someone who support you.  
either way, i've been on methadone for about 6 mos.  i am on day 8 and feeling much better.  just tire easily and have weird sneezy-fits.  i also feel unsure of myself.  and uncomfortable alone w/my 2-year old.

[memily79]

no one answered me directly about the energy cocktail, but i bet if i browsed the forum, i could find it.
anyway, i am so glad to hear that your daughter is in this w/you.  it was me and my mom against the world too.  to answer your question, today is day 9.  i tried it a week before and only made it to day 4 i think.  i went to the local hospital that has a detox unit and begged the doctor to treat me as an outpatient so that i could get clonodine.  it has helped so much.  he also gave me trazadone to sleep, but sleep is a strange animal and only comes when it wants.  i run b/c 1. i am a runner, and its very important to me and 2. i am convinced it gets me through this faster.  i have no professional backing up this personal opionion.
this time i did it, it was bizzarely less intense.  i try not to eat red meat, cause some site somewhere said it wakes up your pain receptors.
if you want, email me.  ***@****

[memily79]

the detox tea is called organic yogi detox tea.  but i went into see the doctor and he said (basically) that all this stuff i'm doing, the teas, vitamins, exercise, sauna, whatever isn't really gonna do anything.  only time will.
but i swear to god, i feel better than i ever, ever thought possible.  When i tried to do it the first time, i didn't do all that stuff, and it was beyond hell.
i never even left the house, and i should have at least taken a walk, because the sunshine on my face feels so good, and when i finally stop after a taxing run, my whole body vibrates with goodness.  i know its hokey, but it's true.
i just wonder how long?  you know, right now, the evenings and nights are so hard on me.  i'm nervous about not sleeping, anxious, bored, i feel very lost starting about 6 pm.
and i think they called l-tyrosine as the energy cocktail.

[orangefyre]

Hey there! I'm on day 4 and am having a lot of sneezing and craving sweets! I'm going to achieve an inordinately large caboose if this lasts much longer.:-)
But, different from you, I have NO ENERGY. I can stay in the same spot on my couch for hours. My house is a wreck.
I go back to work on the 2nd, I must be over this by that day! I have to! No one can know cause I work at a very well known and prestigious hospital (did i spell right?)
So, do you think I should stop taking all these other pills, vitamins, B6, L-Tyrosine, etc? ***@****

[memily79]

i emailed you

[orangefyre]

I replied :-)

[harleyc0404]

I am on day four of a cold turkey 150mg methadone detox I feel like I am dieing it took everything I had just to drag myself to my chair.
I am really excited this place exits! and would really appreacite any advice from anyone. you can contact me here or at my email box at ***@****
                  yours truly patiently waiting in hell

[cheeps]

Hello to all...I'm going to keep reading here because soon I'll have to detox. I've been on methadone for at least five years for chronic pain. Dr gives me 30mg a day. I take 10mg every 8 hours.

I have DDD in neck and it's not bad enough for surgery just kills me though w/o the methadone. I want to get off the methadone but am not sure I can live w/this kind of pain.


Can I hang out with you peeps and learn? I'm 49yo woman that homeschools 16yo son and wants to go back to school. carol

[roxyrola]

oh god oh god, it has been 9 days since iv used meth and 3 days since ive used d's {diladuds) and it is just now feel like ****, i am going cold turkey. no V's, no Clond's NOTHING. it sucks but i have got to take my life back. i have a 1 yrold and a 21/2 year old, i need all my energy for them! what can i do do help sleep at night??????

[natalile]

God your an insperation. I'm coming of herion. But i'm useing methadone. I'm on 110ml a day but i have got myself down to 40 ml today. & have had a week relpse on heroin. I posted yesterday that it was 2 week's it felt like it. I wish i had the stenght to go cold turkey, But i haven't so congrat's to all that are. The fist lady to post ( memiley ). You run 5 miles a day my god a wouldn't be able to get ou tt
he house. Yes i think that will help alot. & i also thing saunas will help alot, Not just to sewat it out, But to make you feel better to. You cannot beat a sauna if you ask me. I don't no eny real thin'g that could help you. at the mo i'm taking a multi vit. & trying to drink planty of fluid's. I swear i'm never of the loo lol. Who is this thomas guy ? acn enyone shed some light this way?. I live in the u.k & have only heard his name in this forum? Thank you natalie. & you are living prof it can be done. It take's a very strong person. I'm just not that stong yet. I will be 1 day & soon i hope? natalie xx

[roxyrola]

hey harley, me too, i feel like hell too. but ive done it off 80 mls 10 years ago, clean for 3 yrs and now using for another 3, its been like 3 days for me, im with ya. we can do it. be strong, how do u sleep?  i also have baby's to care for, so it makes it hard for me.
i am trying not to use valume, as i dont have any and live in the country, and i work too.

[mike423adr]

Hey, Just wanted to add my fun.  So the judge mandated me to be on 100mgs of maintnance, one year ago.  I jumped thru every hoop they had, and been clean from everything for a year.  now a year later the judge is on the rag and decides he wants me to do a 2 year jail sentence.  the jail's nothing, been there, done that, got the teeshirt, but the detox is not gonna be fun.  im scared, and not ready.  he is not willing to give me a continuance to detox.  i have no failure to appears, and never even been late for court.  all i want is 30 days to taper...i would think that would fall under cruel and unusual punishment, anyone agree?  please, any advice on what to expect, how to grit n bear it?  let me know, my email is ***@****, my phone is 203-919-2774.  PLEASE,  AAANNNYYY help is appreciated!  thanks all.
mike

[mtgoat911]

what country do you live in? its very uncommon for the leagle system here to court mandate methadone, this is a very old thread you are posting under so you may want to start a new one
i kicked a hige methadone habit in 04 been clean ever since, i used na, thats the only advise i can offer you, ask the judge for drug court start going to 12step meetings, follow the suggestions, if you work the program with all you have your life will change dramatically

[mr.lucky66]

more info please. How long to you have to go to court or  jail? If it's short stop the done now or go into a detox or mental hospital and they should have to wait until you are discharged. What kind of wacko judge is this?