thanks so much again for writing and I'm sorry it took me so long to get back... reading over your experience was helpful and somewhat reassuring and like Gip added in her usual goodhearted cryptic way, you're really pretty amazing! It's taken me years (more than 20) to get stuck as bad as I am now... tho one of the many good things here is hearing folks who are in way more deep than I am, and those in way less deep than me - everyone's gotta deal with their demons I guess... matine was real helpful and I'm waiting to hear from him or someone about how good suboxone is for a tapered detox; i.e. how long to try and get it while on my current doses before trying something else... I sorta tried C/T but I don't think I can do it... tried rapid detox under anaesthesia but I blew it or they blew it or we blew it tho I got off the small dose of methadone I'd been supplementing my other stuff with for a few years thanx to the probably good intentions of docs who thought I'd stick to the lowdo metha and drop everything else... and I feel sorta sick all the time anyways - only when I have had a good dose do I feel able to function again but it totally messes up my sleep and I gotta get out of this have WAY too much to live for including my little fambly (mentioned it elsewhere but you'd probably appreciate it/feel for me - I have (not really "have", rather "have been entrusted") with ten kids thanks heaven...) I'm always hot/sweating from the droogs - the kids joke about how I've either got the a/c blasting, the windows open, or I'm out in a shirt when everyone's bundled up...nefesh