newbie

i am new to all of this trying to stop and w/d's. I was given roxy 30's for knee pain and had no idea about stopping i just saw how good i did with the pills. now i take 7 or so a day and am in hell it's only been 7 or 8 months since i started. Any help will be great!

[salsinator]

Welcome to the forum.  210mg per day is a pretty good dose, but it's not impossible to stop from this dose.  Do you still have knee pain or are you dependent on the Roxy and want to stop?  

The best way to withdrawal is to taper, but most addicts have trouble sticking to the taper schedule and need help.  Do you have someone who can hold your pills for you and dole them out to you when it is time to take them?  Try to taper down by taking less medication at one time and also spreading out the time inbetween each dose.  If you are taking 60mg at once, cut it back to 45mg.  Reduce your dose weekly until you get to the point where you are down to just 1/2 pill per day.  At that point, it will be much easier to quit and the withdrawal will be much less severe.  If this is too hard to do on your own, consider getting some professional help to complete a detox.  I ended up going through an 8 day medical detox for suboxone, which I took for nearly 4 years after a 200+mg/day hydrocodone habit.  Keep posting, there are lots of experience people here who have been in your shoes who can help.  Check out the Thomas Recipe in the Health Pages too.  Good Luck.

[Brrrrad]

Hey Bro, The first thing is tell anyone close to you what`s going on. Even if it`s only the one closest to you, it ment all the difference in the world to me.
The people on here are great and really listen to what and how they suggest to help you get off these life killing pills.You have made a great choice to quit now even though it maybe scary it only gets worse the longer you wait.
You can do this I am just one of the MANY,MANY testimonies on this site that has been helped by these great people! You have already come to the right place. Keep us all updated.  Jesus is the man  Brad

[dellta]

im day 7 from 10mg oxys anywhere from 10 to 12 a day but was taking them for over a year from a injury from the army !! anyway start to hydryte get vitams b12 and b6 maybe some niquil for sleep and be prepaired for a few days of not feeling so good but if you can start winging down do it to as low as you can go i did but it eventuley was like going threw mini w/d over and over so 7 days ago i jumped and day 1,2,3,4,5 were not easy but i finaly got some sleep lastnite and im pretty much past all the physical stuff so just give yourself a chance its not the easy thing to do but a few days of feeling like **** is better than a lifetime of the b.s and its not as bad as you mite think and being on here realy helps as well goodluck

[co872]

Thank you, everyone! I will be here, I have looked at alot of of forums and studied alittle about quitting. I tried subs for a day before and just could'nt hang in there. I also had tapered my dose in half a month ago, but when I started to get a buzz on two pills again it was like, starting over and I messed up. My knee pain has been gone and is not as bad as the lifestyle I am living. I just cant seem to kick it, I'm a total wimp right now. I am telling my family slowly, and have moved in with grandparents. They understand, but it's hard. I wish I had understood the downside of this, or my dr. would have been more informative. I guess you learn this the hard way, I am single but stand to lose alot of my materials, plus I'm just overwhelmed. I was always the non user stayed away from everything and brought up good, this stuff just crept up on me. Now I feel like my life is over, but I can't give up, I keep on everyday even though it has been brutal. Like I said I really have to stop it's not an option, I feel like dying isnt as bad as this. I just came here to try something new, like I said I'm new to all this, just seeing the real bad effects. I will start a taper again this week and will keep you posted. Thank you so much!

[co872]

I'm up since 4 30 am couldnt sleep. cold sweats and all, mind racing. I'm out the door to church with my dad, i'm gonna tell him about my problem. I will also add pics soon, Thanks again! This morning when I woke up I was having crazy thoughts and feelings, I came in here and read the posts and you guys really helped, I went and watched tv read the bible and i felt so much better from the support. Dont give up on me I'm not!

[co872]

I went to church and had lunch with my dad. It was good to get out and do something, all I have really done the past few weeks is take pills and isolate myself. I took half of what i took yesterday, as far as pills go. Really half of what I have been taking for weeks. The day is not over but i'm fighting it, I have to stop or I will never have a chance at the life i want. That is my motivation, along with god and my family. I got a question I have never seen and it's probably stupid, but my dad got hypnosis for stopping smoking and i remember him setting with a cig in his mouth for days but never lit it. Has anyone tried this for detox? Just an idea.

[salsinator]

Hi Co872,  Hang in there.  You are going about this the right way.  Take a little as you can and still function.  Getting out, exercising, and even taking some hot baths helps too for the restless legs.  You will be through this before you know it.  Check with your doctor if that's an options, there are some meds that they can prescribe to help ease withdrawal.  One is Clonidine - it is for high blood pressure, but it really helps with the "jumping out of your skin" feeling.  Keep posting and Take Care.

[co872]

Ok I will ask about the clonidine. I cant explain it i have been 6 hrs with no pills now and I feel great. Absolutely no cravings at the moment, and no wd, I am totally blown away. I cant go a few hrs usually without one, i pray to god with all I have that it will stay like this but i have a feeling it wont, it cant be so easy. I'm gonna find more stuff to do and just keep cutting back, thats all i really think will work. I cant take the abrupt w/d's i 've tried, I know it's all in your mind they say. I have been saying just another hr just another hr, finally the craving has subsided.

[salsinator]

Great.  The longer you can go inbetween doses and the lowest dose you can take when you do need one will work the best.  Keep going just the way you are and you will be able to get through this.  The w/d is a lot mental, but it is physical too.  It take time for your brain to adjust to having no opiates and to start producin it's own endorphins again.  Hang in there.

[worried878]

Being aware u have a problem is a wonderful start..trying to taper down can help..but can be hard for an addict and frustrating...u have not been using that long..which is in ur favor..u could probably take less and be ok..then get on off those jokers before they get u into a deeper hole...never gets better if u keep using..keep posting

[co872]

Yep I'm gonna post everyday, I went 12 hrs without taking yesterday. Took a 45 mg dose at 2 pm,went the whole rest of the day trying to keep it at bay mentally. Then about 8 i took alittle nyquil like delta said, and dont remember falling alseep. I woke up at 2am and took another cap and woke up at 8 30. I took a 45mg then caus it had been so, i got up and watched tv and read the bible, but I could'nt get going. I'm on the way to a successful taper. I wish I could hug all you people, I dont think I would be anywhere close to this without the past few days of your support. 12 hrs is the longest I have been without a dose in a long time, i have a hard time going 2hrs sometimes. I'm heading to work and only gonna take 60mg for the whole day, I hope it woks like yesterday, if not I will tough it out.  Thankyou again, I will never have enough thanks for the support I am getting from people I have never even met!  

[co872]

Actually i went 16 hrs now that i include the nights sleep, 2 pm til 8:30 am. As long as my math is right qh well i'm kinda mentally foggy at the moment. I'm heading to cvs to get the L- tyrosene or whatever its called hopefully that will boost me up as i have read in the thomas article. TTYL friends!

[co872]

Got off work early, dont think that is good caus now i got free time to get tempted. I'm gonna cut the grass, maybe the neighbors too, they are outta the country. I'm no where near clean, but it's not so bad on the taper. In a week or two we will see how I feel. I went to cvs and got B complex, I told the pharmacist what was going on. I have no shame in my addiction which is good, I can tell a perfect stranger about it and not be ashamed. Thanks for listening, I keep reading the posts when I have a problem and it gives me a sense of hope and well being.

[Michiganguy328]

Awesome...  Keep it up!!!   31 days for me and I feel a ton better.  I'm not sure if you will go through PAWS after, but you might want to read up on that.  

[Hillbilly47]

Stay strong and you'll get where you want to be.  This is a great place to talk to folks who have been down your road.  There's no shame here for anyone - we're all just trying to find a clean space in our own lives.  This place has been a God-send for me, and I think you'll find the same.  I'm only at day 41, but I'm already seeing big changes in my life.  Now, I'd like to see everyone receive this blessing.

[co872]

31 and 41 days clean, I wish! I took 5 of my 7 pill script today, thats great for me. I remember taking 4 at a time like candy. I just cut 3 acres of grass, if i can find a way to make it a few more hrs and get to bed, it will be 2 days in a row of not being clean but being in the right direction. I can honestly say it's from finding this site! I hope my taper will be over in as few weeks as i can do it, and see that days clean number start climbing!

[co872]

It's really inspirational to read your stories and see how some of you have been on way more mg and types of stuff than me and are clean. It makes me stronger seeing how strong you have been. I am beginning to really feel that i'm beating this!

[co872]

By the way Michiganguy328 what is paws?

[Brokenbutglued]

Awesome work co872!! You're doing great and way to go on finding stuff to do to occupy your mind to help fight temptation!

I'm not sure if it's wise to start the amino acid protocol before you go ct or not but well, I started my hubby on it the very night he went cold turkey. From what I've read about the amino acid protocol it's gotten high ratings, it might be worth looking into. Look on the bottom right of this page and you'll see it.

Congratulations on taking one day at a time and moving in the right direction!! You're right, you CAN do this. *hugs*

[Brrrrad]

Hey Bro, Sounds like your doing great!!  Funny you mentioned cutting grass, I remember when I could not even mow the lawn w/ out having a buzz from the pills.  It gets so much better. It`s a big weight lifted off your shoulders.
Keep it up you da` man    Brad

[co872]

Ok I read about paws, can that happen to people only abusing for less than a year? That ***** if so!

[co872]

Thanks brad! I just don't feel crappy, I hope it's like this for as long as I need, i'm really surprised about how good I feel, on the dose I'm taking. I couldnt get outta bed with out a buzz before bro!

[co872]

just came on here for a few to re read all the posts. I had a great day now i'm up every hr and cant sleep, having one of those nights. atleast my mind is not swarming with gyuilty or bad thoughts , I just cant stay asleep. I'm gonna post you, my new friends to death. It's the only thing that is helping. Goodnight all, hopefully I can sleep and leave you alone til tomorrow, just getting some strength. It's hard to stay up when I could use and pass out but i'm enduring.

[HealthySquid]

Hi,

I too was where you are at but did not have the strength you have shown nor the younger age (I am guessing.)  My short story is that I had major abdominal issues with the worst pain you can imagine.  Over the course of 2.5 yrs, I went from 30 5/325mg percs prescribed per month to 360 30mg oxycodone IR prescribed per month.  I was taking up to 450mg oxycodone IR per day.  At that point, my doctor prescribed months's worth of fentanyl patches in addition to the oxycodone.  I wore the first patch and after 2 days, decided that was not for me.  Well, I found a world reknown specialist who mostly fixed me a few months ago.

I then realized I needed to start getting off the meds.  I stopped Trazodone c/t which I thought to be a safe medicine and was stupid in not doing any resarch.  Well, 15 days of H*LL for that one I endured.  Then I went to real family practice that performed accelerated detox as I knew I couldn't go through yet another w/d.

Over the course of 3 not so easy days as they lead you to beleive, my brain was washed of all opiates.  Well, that 3 days plus 4 more days I ate and drank absolutely nothing.  I started throwing up blood, and the stool looked like someone had poured red blood in in it from an eight ounce glass.  After it took me 3 hours to go 20 feet to the bathroom, I went to the ER severely dehydrated and loosing massive amounts of blood.

Long story short, the ER visit was caused by me not eating and drinking.  My esophagus, stomach, and colon all started eating themselves from the inside out because of the stomach acid.  I also, as I said before, SEVERELY dehydrated.

Conclusion, DO NOT stop eating and especially don't underestimate the value of at least 8 8 oz glasses of water every day, without fail.

If you want to know more about the accelerated detox, IM me.  I would be happy to tell you about it.   In the end, they were my life savers.  I am now 35 days clean and every day is a new day with more energy than I had the day before.

I am still having trouble with sleep but, besides that, I have no other w/d symptoms, even cravings.  

You are very strong, much stronger than me.  You can do this.   Look how far you came?  I was totally amazed reading your post.  I really lost myself in the last 2.5 years.  I am now getting myself back in every respect.  Yes, the sex drive is coming back with a vengeance which my wife is happy because it is time to start a family.

Good luck!  

[co872]

Thanks for your post, I am off to work I dont have time too much to talk this morning. i had a rough night but did not give in. Took a small dose to get up and going, mornings are the hardest for me. When I stopped c/t I had blood like that on the first day, my bowels were shaking violently. I drink only water, and eat pretty well still mainly soft food not much meat at all.TTYL Thanks everyone

[co872]

I got home a little while ago, work was hard. Myself and one other guy hung 40 sheets of drywall. I have been fighting cravings all day and my back is killing me. I am not giving in though, I am trying to treat the pain as I did the pleasure from pain meds. Just another emotion, I have taken 5 of my 7 and trying to not take anymore. I can hear my grandmother watching tv its friday part 2, thats pretty funny caus she is old and not black. Doesnt seem like her demographic.

[co872]

7 is the score for today, i'm going to bed. I have to cut back tomorrow 7 is my normal dose, even though I have been abusing lately it's a good point to get back to. I know its said to go slow but the faster i go the stronger I hope to get. Goodnight friends!

[co872]

Hey guys I'm new to this site so  I dont have it all down yet, but this post is getting long so i started another. Thanks for the support and the new friends accepted hope to hear from you all soon.

[co872]

I'm heading to work it's getting hard right now to stick with my plan, I have to find things to do. I just see all I used to be and what I have become, now I see who I really want to be but there are so many things I have put in the way of my own accomplishment. My family is starting to get hard on me which isnt helping, they wake me up at 7 30 and hover there till I get up, I'm not a morning person to begin never was and that is my weakest time of the day. I will talk to them maybe, but I actually think it may be better left alone.