I guess rls is one name for it, but it is sounds a lot like cramping which is often associated with withdrawl from the pain meds.
My guess is that you are actually experiencing withdrawal. Do you have any other problems such as: vomiting, diarrhea, restlessness, inability to sleep or headaches, for example?
Continue with your story about the norco, such as how long have you taken it? Do you take it everyday? How much?, etc. You will get some good feedback in here.
cramping or whatever it is, keeps me up all night. it is the most horrible thing i go through when i am out of pills, the diarrhea goes away after 2-3 days but the feelings in my legs is constant and extreme at night, the longest i have lasted was 7 days, in that time i did not sleep. 7 years ago i had back surgery and was taking 4-6 10mg for 6 years. then took a job i had no business doing but the money i could not pass up, anyways 4-6 has now become 10-14 10s a day. 2 months ago i relized i was out of control and have been trying to quit. for the past 2 weeks i have been sucsessfully only taking 4-6 with the hopes of eventually going to 2 a day in 1 more week. for the last 3 years i have self medicated and have not been under a doctors care.
Welcome again. You are telling my story. You are telling the story of so many people in here.
Most all of us started out with an injury of some sort, and were prescribed pain meds from a doctor. Then the pain meds stopped working. Our bodies build a tolerance to them fairly quickly. So, then the problem becomes "where do I get more?".
For me, it was a back injury. I got pain meds and, like I said, they began not to work. So I got another doc, then I started getting them from the internet, then a doc out of state, and so on, and so on. I was taking 150 mg a day and it still wasn't enough! Nothing was enough! By the time I stopped with the pain meds I was up to 150 mg a day. Then a few more on the side for good measure.
You admitted that you are "self-medicating". That is addiction. Yes, the leg cramps are part of it, so are all the other things I asked you about. The leg cramps will go away, you just have to stick it out until they do if you really want to get clean.
Tapering off is certainly one way to stop, but for most of us, it is dangerous. The temptation is too great. There are a few suggestions. One I will share with you: If you have someone, who is not an addict, who can hold your meds for you and dose you are needed to continue the taper, that would help greatly. That way you won't be tempted.
There are also many, many other suggestions. Please read thru some of the posts and see how others are "getting off the pills".
Keep posting and let us know. Be good to yourself.
2/17/13 - Well I started my detox from these crazy Norco pills. So far I have had the sweats, anxiety, shaking, some hallucinations, major aches especially from my injury, chills, and lastly the diarrhea. My biggest fear at the moment is the headache that often accompanies the withdraws. I can deal with any of the above for a short time but the headache is my true weakness. So far I’m about 16 hours into last taking a pill. So it may be fair to say I’ve only been trying to detox for about 10 hours as it generally takes 4-6 hours for it to leave my system and for my body to crave more
2/19/13 – Update – I’ve come a long way. I still have the chills and I can also add Restless Leg Syndrome (RLS). Now I know what it’s like to be a woman in bed that can’t keep her legs still. That was a rough part especially trying to sleep. Had a slight one but was able to get some liquids and a small amount of food in me to avoid that. Still experiencing the chills in which it feels like ice water flowing through my veins and my skin being burned with a light bulb. No way to be comfortable other than Tylenol and ibuprofen. Smoothies seemed to be nice especially with a full banana as I was told it would assist with the restless leg thing which does still plague me every night. Not sure if that eased my symptoms as they were still really rough. The smoothie with fresh fruits is a great way to get nutrients as my interest in food is very minimal if not most times none existent. I’m still getting the hot/cold sensations which keep me up in the night but those may be worse at the moment. I just woke up that Sunday morning and said no more pills. The shaking seems to have subsided a little and I still have to keep moving. No way to sit still. As for my head I’m clear, I feel more alive than I have in years.
2/20/13 – Update – Still going as good as things probably could go. I feel the GNC 14 day cleanse may be helping my cause if not physically, emotionally. It may be helping getting the toxins out of my system from the pills. I did this same cleanse while I was on the pills and found that I didn’t crave them as much for a while only to work myself back up to my maximum dosage again. That’s part of this sickness. The pills just keep working less and less and your body wants more and more. The point is I truly feel the cleanse did work. Again it may be a placebo effect. I’ve been very distant and trying to concentrate on myself. This is one of the hardest things I’ve ever done. Hell, grad school was easier. My choice to do it that way but may not be for everyone. I’ve sort of closed myself off only to let those closest to me know what’s going on. I’m rotating between the Tylenol and ibuprofen which continue to help with the fever and the shakes. Still running to the toilet a lot which is one of the withdraws. I’m assuming this may be from the cleanse too but I see it as I would be doing it anyway so as long as I’m close to a restroom I’m content. I didn’t have any issues with this cleanse before but thought it was worth noting. Another thing is I’m sneezing a lot. I don’t know if this is from the cold or withdraws as I’ve read this happens. It may be both as I’ve been coughing a lot especially during the night. I tend to like warm temps and environments than being cold. If I could offer any advice to those that desire it, drink an extreme amount of water (I have been drinking at least 3 Lit a day), drink smoothie’s that have a fresh banana, keep rotating the Tylenol and ibuprofen according to the labels, exercise, even a walk outside should be forced. This will help release endorphins. I’m telling you it helps so much and can’t be dismissed. Make an effort to keep doing things even little tasks. Not to be gross but to go along with the endorphins try to have sex or masturbate as well. I actually have more energy now being off the pills, I’m actually amazed. I don’t understand or know how this could be. It doesn’t make any sense in my mind but I love it and it only motivates me more and more. No need for naps like I would often require with those pills. I still feel my back issues a bit but honestly I feel better and don’t hurt as much as I did when I was on those things. My body was lying to me. Think about that for a second. My brain was telling me something that simply wasn’t true. How scary that this can happen. How scary that people stay on this stuff and never know that their brain could be lying to them as mine was to me. I have a whole new life ahead of me and I’m not going to waste it. It’s freakin’ scary but the payoff is amazing. How could I even want to turn back to that? I love my new life and it gets better every hour. I’m getting better. I love me. :)
2/23/13 – Day 6 update – Still have some anxiety but rather mild. The other thing I failed to mention is that I have been so emotional during this entire journey. As male this was/is really new territory. I now have an idea and a new appreciation for what women go through during their cycle. I was so damn sensitive to everything especially in the beginning. Both the anxiety and sensitivity have both loosened their grip as time goes by. It would come from anything. Music, things I’d see on tv etc. I still am sensitive but nothing like earlier in the week. No desire to go back especially reading everyone’s words on this page.
2/24/13 – Finally can say it has been a week since taking my last norco. Still having plenty of issues sleeping and still suffering from my injuries. I continue to perform my PT exercises which tends to take the edge off. Just having to do them is very boring but I suppose that’s better than the alternative. Much happier having the current challenges than being on those pills and fighting to stay awake. My mind is still clear and I’m still focused on the goal. I read that 95% of people fail without some kind of assistance. I’m proud to say I’m one of the 5% that hasn’t required the help. I’m not trying to say I’m better than anyone but knowing I beat those odds makes me very happy at what I’ve accomplished. I can truly understand how people can’t make it up or over the hill. The withdraws are still haunting me. I’m still having bathroom issues mostly in the morning in which I just take a couple Imodium to calm things down. I’m still having the sweats which is rather annoying after taking the time to shower then you start to sweat again. I’m still finding that I’m very sensitive and emotional with everything I see and hear. Again just trying to adjust to this. I know better but this is just another symptom of this. So to sum it up after a week, I’m still not sleeping well in other words insomnia is a big player, still have the RLS which most happens at night when I’m trying to sleep, my back still hurts but not as bad as when I was on those pills, still having to use the bathroom a lot, my hunger comes and goes but mostly my appetite is forced. I continue to be proactive and try to drink lots of water, no real headaches to speak of which has really surprised me. I continue to monitor my intake of Tylenol and ibuprofen with a log to avoid any damages to my organs. One other thing I haven’t mentioned is time does appear to go by really slow. I’ve read this in other places and I can completely relate. You want to get through this so quickly sometimes minutes can feel like hours. I’d say my condition is about 80% well. I’m able to function, still having some fatigue but that could be a combination of not being able to sleep at night and the withdraws. Basically my body is still upset with me but my brain knows what’s best for it. I’m almost home. Just need to push a little more.
I finally returned to write the conclusion of the story. Once you get through the couple weeks I haven’t had any withdraws weeks or months after. Just do it. Cheers
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