norco

[Lyn212]

WEll, I just got my last refill (my dr said no more) and he only gave me 20 pills, usually he gives me 60 with 2 refills.  I am a;ready starting to feel anxious and I don;t know why.  I want to stop taking them, I am just so afraid, the pain I have prevenst me from doing much of anything and I have become this lazy person that just sits around taking norco all day long.  I am already sweating and worried sick about this. I don;t know what to do. I don;t think I am mentally ready to stop yet, but now I may have to.

[HighSpeedWobble]

Why is this all old posts?

[bree31]

I guess i also should have mentioned that my doc has me on some pretty aggressive drugs for my crohns. And im not sure if its my addiction to the meds or if i really am severly hurting that makes me keep telling him nothing helps me, the medicine keeps getting more aggressive each time, but the one thing i know for sure is if i say i feel better i wont get pain meds. Please help me anyone i dont want to die!!

[bree31]

Hi, i have been diagnosed with crohns disease and arthritis. My husband is in the military so i raise 5 kids by myself. Im in incredible pain daily. I take my norco as it is prescribedbut i have been taking it for 3 years daily. I want to quit taking it but dont know how. I have a hard time just doing day to day things on the norco, how could i possibly do anything without it. I definitely know im addicted, my doctor calls it a dependancy. Im just trying to live a normal life, and im scared!!

[Lyn212]

Hi,
I am doing alright.  I have some old darvocet that I got a while ago, after we got hit by a drunk driver.  That is the first med they tried me on.  I was hoping maybe that will help with the wd's.  Who knows. This week will be challenging but it has to happen sooner or later, that is one way of looking at it I guess. I will do some more reading to hear other peoples stories, that does help out so much, knowing that you all can do it, so should I!  It is so funny, I didn't really know how many people out there are suffering from this, just like me. It seems like a lot of new moms have this addiction.  I wonder if it is from the dr's giving pain meds at childbirth, then it becomes a crutch on the hard days.  I wonder why the DR's don't give something less addictive after birth. I read on the internet that taking pain medication exactly as perscribed wont become addicitive, atleast it is uncommon if you only take it exactly as it is supposed to be taken. I really wonder how true that is.  I am still thinking about that kratom. does anyone know if it is safe?

[watermom]

Lynn,

I am glad this site is helping you. It has helped me as well.  Immensely.  I think you really need to read many different posts and listen to different stories and and you will find some that you connect with....I know there are some people on here that have really helped and I am corresponding back and forth with.....others I just read and go on with what works for ME.  Everyone is different.  

I hope you decide to take the plunge and become clean.  Either by tapering or c/t.  You will feel better better about yourself as a woman and definately as a mom.  They do need you!

Hope you are doing okay today.

[worried878]

u remind me of me.....lol

[oxyaddict420]

That is a good thing that this site is helping you.  Usually I am always a person with nothing but kind loving words, but it seemed like you got plenty of that from others.. I was just trying to shock your system into maybe looking at it from a different angle.  Sorry to be so hard, and didnt get upset or angry, just CONCERNED!  So use this website to help you all you need, and make sure to always post everything you feel.

BEST OF LUCK!!

[worried878]

I worried people on this forum for weeks before i quit....You ar working it out in your mind right now...that is all...you will get there...I can tell...You should express what you feel here..If you feel like taking a pill...or if you feel like you are weak....say so...if we were all on here lying about how great we are doing all the time, what help would it be...it is about thoughts, working with those thoughts, coming to a conclusion after thinking and analyzing...by the way  I have been clean 12 days and have a bad headache  LOL....did not have the best of days....most have been good....did not get a pill tho....working through my past behaviors and realizing alot about myself...I have been emotionally not ok since my divorce 15 years ago and did not start using pils til a few years ago....I have not been ok for a long time...I am seeing it now....one positive note to a negative situation...alot of people go thru life non-addicted but in emotional pain and never get this chance to figue things out as they do not realize they need to...I look at it as a new beginning to an old behavior pattern that needs to end...rambling but had a bad day

[Lyn212]

I don't know what to say.  I feel badlythat I go back and forth when it seems like most of you are on the road to better days, not taking pills.  I'm sorry if I was to wishy washy, it sounds like i have upset some of you, and that isn't my intention.  I was typing what my mind was telling me at the moment, I have never talked about this stuff to anyone, I have never allowed myself to even go there with this problem I am having. TO be honest every time I wanted to go take a pill today I came down and read on this site instead trying to go as long as I could without taking one.  This has really been a blessing to have, to know that there really is other people out there that are feeling exactly like me. Thank you all for helping me everyday.

[anewbeginning]

I have heard that the Kratom is an addicting drug, which is just trading one addiction for another. DON'T ORDER IT!!!! If your going to withdrawal, then just do it & suck it up!

[nldfw]

Hey- she doesn't need your anger.  If she's not ready right now- fine. Don't be a jerk about it.  If you have issues w/ what she says- move on- and leave it at that.  If she's looking for help- then let her find it.
We've ALL been there.  We've ALL been where we kind of wanted to quit- kind of didn't.  We've gone as far as trying to taper, couldn't.  
This is a hard thing- she'll need support- encouragment.  She's being HONEST with herself- and with us.  You can't judge her for that. OFCOURSE she knows to think of her kids, etc.  This is an addiction- it's not a choice of what to eat for lunch- it's a physical and mental addiction.  You could have ALL good intentions- but you're struggling.  She's struggling with herself and with her addiction.
Just watch what you say to someone that's so fragile right now- you could do more harm than good.  In the end- these are our own decisions to make- but my day #1 started with someone giving me GREAT advice on this board.  To be honest with you- I didn't want to stop the pills that day.  I did but I didn't- I should say.  With help from REALLY positive people here- I have got 4 days under my belt

[oxyaddict420]

I do not want to sound mean, but I have read every single comment you posted on this thread before I decided to reply.. In all honesty it doesn't sound like you are serious about quitting at all.  You say many times that you cant do this, and you cant handle this.. Well YES YOU CAN, YOU JUST CHOOSE NOT TO!  There is a difference.. Also I read in a few posts about you wanting to be able to get pain meds anyway.. Hoping they will pull your tooth out to give you norco "you hoped" right?  That is not being ready to quit.. This addiction is a nasty thing and I am not judging you in any way, but you have kids that need there mother, and need their mother to be a sober resposible person to care for them.. All I here is you saying "ME THIS" AND "ME THAT" OR "I CANT" OR "I WONT"!!  You have honestly admitted how out of control this has gotten yet right after that say you wish you could get more pills.. WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?  Do you want to get real and quit for good, or do you just want to get through until you can get mroe meds?  To me it sounds more like you just want to get more meds..  I hope you decide to think more about how this is affecting the kids rather than how you can deal with pain, and withdrawl.. THEY NEED YOU!!

Get mad at me, bash my response whatever "I DONT CARE: But for gods sake put your kids first and realize that getting clean is rough but very doable!  Staying addicted is just going to make things worse..  AS LONG AS YOU GET CLEAN THAT IS ALL I CARE ABOUT! THERE ARE PRECIOUS KIDS HERE THAT ARE TOO IMPORTANT TO OVERLOOK JUST DUE TO YOU NOT BEING ABLE TO HANDLE PAIN THAT WELL, OR BEING A BABY WHEN IT COMES TO PAIN"AS YOU STATED"  

PLEASE THINK OF YOUR KIDS FIRST, AND REALIZE THAT YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF BEFORE THEM WHEN YOU ARE A SLAVE TO THESE PILLS!

[nldfw]

Hey Girl!!!  Calm down.  Breath.  Remember when you were 10 years old... or 5 years old... and you didn't know about drug addiction... take yourself there.  Close your eyes and splash in a sprinkler on a summer day.... blow bubbles w/ your friends..... giggle in the dark at night w/ your friends at a slumber party... take yourself to a HAPPY HAPPY day in your life.  Remember every bit of it- feel it- smell it- taste it.  When you feel your heart beat settle- open your eyes and take deeeeeeeeep breaths in/out/in/out.  Then talk to yourslef.  Tell yourself you can do this, tell yourself you're not a slave to this drug- you are only human.  DON'T LET THIS CONTROL YOU MENTALLY.  I KNOW that's hard to actually do- but it's TOTALLY do-able.  Let yourself be vulnerable, yes, but DON'T think too far into how you got here or why- or anything- atleast not yet.  You can worry about why and all that jazz when you've got 7-10 days under your belt and start w/ the mental stuff. Today- focus on getting through it.  You can do this.  I know you can.  Just DON'T be hard on yourself- it will only hender you.  We are ALL human and we're not losers.  We're just people- people who happen to like to have a good time!  Hahah.  We're some of the funnest, funniest, spiritual, friendliest people in the world.  I've always really liked addicts- we're not the norm.  We're special- and in a REALLY good way.  Please talk to me if you need to- seriously- I'm totally here for you :)

[Lyn212]

my mind is racing all over wonderig what I am going to do to cope with this...I am a mess today.  This norco has taken over all of me it seems.  It is like if I don't have a full bottle of it, I am worried about how I am going to get more.  I have to have a tooth pulled this week, maybe they will give me a new perscrition, but it is so embarressing asking for "norco" or something in that catagory.  It is like it instantly makes me look like a druggie.  If you were to see me, I don't "look" like that.  I know, non of us do, I am sure.  This is such a let down,  I can't believe I have let my life come to this.  I never even knew I had gotten this out of control.  Now it is the only thing on my mind, the norco.  I can't even think about trying to get stuff done around the house, showering seems like a challenge today, my mind is totally thinking about this week when I run out of my 18 norcos...I am so sad about this.yuk.

[Lyn212]

I just read about the kratom...where do I get it?  I saw it on ebay, is it like a vitamin? I have never smoked, done "drugs" or drink really, I am pretty skeptical to order something like that from ebay wondering what it could possibly do to my body.  Ittied to go as long as I could today without taking one of my norcos, within 7 hours I was hurting allover, sweating, restless.  It was only 415am and I had to take a half and go back to bed, then at 630 the same thing, I woke up to all the same withdrawls...I have a feeling this is going to really be hard for me to cope with.  I don't handle pain very well, never have really.  This will be the worst pain I have ever had, I am sure. The fear is really holding me back from wanting to stop taking them.

[mr.lucky66]

Fear is the worst thing about withdrawl. Just say, "give me your best shot mr. jones". At least I did after a few times but now don't have to go through it any more. Face it and it will be so much easier. All the best to you Lyn.

[watermom]

Scootch....you didn't post in the wrong place at all.  I just wanted you to post the question in the forum too so other people could give advice.....You are moving around the forum just fine.  I am getting my legs as well.  I sent you an invite to add to my friends list.

Let me know what you plan to do....

[Scootch]

sorry about posting in the wrong place.  I am having a hard time getting around this forum.  How do I add you to my friends?  Thanks for the advice and I think I posted again in the main area.  How do I PM you?  I am so lame!!!  I am going to try to figure it out.  Good luck everyone.  I think I need to go have a serious discussion with my hubby about trying again.  I have been to afraid to tell my doctor for I do not want him to take away my easy refills in case I change my mind or if my pain ends up being worse than i thin and then he wont refil because I have told on myself.  Iknow it is the addiction talking but it is loud and clear.

[watermom]

Scootch....hello.....Do you have a doctor that can help you?  Maybe give you something not as strong to start tapering?  Maybe something for anxiety?  I say this and I know it isn't popular with some people on here but when you have small children you really need something for anxiety.  If you have been on norcos for 3.5 years constantly and you are taking 8 a day.....it may be a little difficult to do on your own without tapering.  You CAN do it but it will be hard. I did it cold turkey taking 6-7 Norcos a day then down to 8 Vicodin.  I am on day 6 and feel better.  The first 4 days are brutal and YES you will need somebody either watching your children at your house or have a your mom/relative/mother in law take them.  If you do not want to tell them the truth (many don't...I didn't) then say you have the flu.  It looks like a bad flu (and feels like).  There are many people on here that can give you great advice as far as tapering.  Do you have enough Norcos to taper?  If I were you I would post your question on the main forum so others can chime in. BUT I want to keep chatting with you so I would like to add you as a friend...or you can add me.  I have moms on my friends list so far....we all understand how hard it is with kids and how much guilt is involved.  I will be on tomorrow.....so PM me okay?  Oh you will want to follow the Thomas recipe if you go cold turkey. It really helps.  I will tell you where to look tomorrow. Actually, I am going to post it in my journal and you can take it from there.  You can do this....you just need to figure out the best way to get there.......we are here....Oh and I haven't done a 12 step....that is a good forum question. I am sure somebody has. I do know people have said this forum has helped them tremendously. I know it has helped me thus far. It makes you feel not so alone.

Jake...hey to you....I have never heard of Kratom...but that doesn't mean somebody else on here hasn't.  I wish I never tried Norco (my fav) or vicodin.  Mine started with Vicodin and YES I do remember the first feeling and it doesn't come back.  You eventually just try and survive and turn into an entirely different person.  Are you planning on tapering?  There are so many knowledgable people on here that can help.  I know amino acids help a lot to get your "brain" working again.  I have been taking those.  I am going to post in my journal tomorrow what has helped me these last 6 days.  It isn't easy but I feel much more clearer.  You too can do this.  It will be an ongoing struggle but one that has to be overcome.  I would be happy to add you as a friend to if you like....It is easier to PM back and forth with questions......As I mentioned you can also post your question in the main forum and others can tell you their story.  There are different ways to go about this.  God bless you as well.

[Becca911]

Hi, I just started tapering today. I have been taking lortabs for 2 1/2 yrs since heart surgery, never did I think I would be an addict. but here I am, very addicted. I talked to my doctor about needing to taper because I just had another surgery one month ago so I lied and just said that I had been taking them for the last couple of months. I knew I need my doctors help to stop this addiction. I'm a mom and I have to stop looking for pills and counting pills and worrying where I'm going to find my next prescription. You can do this maybe you can talk to your dr and ask for his help. Mine gave me a taper plan and were using tylenol 3 so I won't have w/d's. Be strong and remember your kids need you. If you need me I'm here.

[tuptup]

I have been on norco for 3 years, and have tried to stop at least 6 different times, but I always go back to using.  I guess regarding the comment by Lyn212 about withdrawals, I wish I could have contacted you about kratom earlier, it will completely get rid of your withdrawals and it's legal to obtain.  However you can also "transfer" the addictions with Kratom, which, in my case, is what I have done when I run out of Norco.  I have one more bottle of Norcos and I am going to give it my 7th try to quit when i have it refilled (I generally don't use more than 8 a day), but I just can't quit because of the mental thing.  Longest I have quit is 3 weeks. I really have got to stop as I know I am a walking zombie on them and it's a waste of money for me.  Remember when it used to feel good the first time you took them?  That feeling never comes back, I believe the Norco actually re-wires your brain over time and you have to be off the meds for months for your brain to actually get back to normal and kick the cravings out.  I wish I never took that first pill, I didn't even know what they were until I had my wisdom teeth out later in life.  After that first pill, I have been on a 3 year rollercoaster, and want to get off for good.  God bless,
-Jake

[Scootch]

I have been reading and made a post a couple of days ago.  I want to stop my norco use and tried to taper but had such a hard time.  I am trying to plan to detox this coming weekend.  Start Friday and end Monday.  What do you guys think?  I take about 8 10mg norco a day.  How sick will I be?  When is it the worst and will the kids need to be out of the house?  They are 3 and 5.  No one seems to understand that I need help getting off these meds and I have to figgure it out on my own.  I have been on for 3.5 years after a bad c-section so I have always been medicated as long as my youngest has been alive.  I want him to have the me I am when I am not on the norco.  Please help.  I so relate to the others on board.  Has anyone tried a 12 step program after they detox and if so how did that work?

[watermom]

Yes, it is a beautiful thing....the most beautiful thing and it can be very difficult at times...challenging I should say but I wouldn't trade it for anything.

My daughter has been affected...I can tell.  But she is young enough I can turn it around.....I hope.  

I know what you mean about just wanting to sit....that is all I wanted to do.  I didn't want to play or anything.....that has changed.  I mean dont get me wrong...reading the same book 10 times in a row isn't a party...but what I see in her eyes is everything.

I am sure you hubby...as mine but he doesn't say it....feels a little betrayed....but you are going to change it.....he will see in time when he has the real YOU back.  He will never understand.....but that is why you have us.

Have a good night and check in tomorrow okay? I am going to go eat my anniversary dinner and play with my kids before bed.

Hugs

[Lyn212]

I am already sweating and it has only been a few hours since I took norco, that is scarry!!!