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3955352 tn?1349096897

not again!!!!!!!!!please help!!!!!!!!

I really need help on how to come off dilaudid .my doc who I trusted to much and knows about my addiction put me on dilaudid  for complications in my neck due too a previous surgery  I want off now and 12 hours without I start withdrawals  and I can't go into withdrawals because I just had foot surgery  and I have a broken foot but I am not in any pain..please I really want to know how do I taper off this awful ****..I was only taking 4 every 8 hours for 3 weeks previous I was on vocoder for 2 weeks high doses of that.....
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Well, you're certainly welcome. Feel free to PM me anytime and keep us update about your condition and how youre doing!
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...and again, just wanted to THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart bb88 & freely for continuing to post on this thread when you don't have to...your life has become my life as well in 2013 and I probably would have caved without you guys.  you are in my thoughts and prayers, and I am here if you want to vent about your struggles as well.  thanks again so much!,
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day 3...the worst yet.  uncontrollable vomiting for two hours this morning, and nothing to vomit except Gatorade.  that was awful.  I somehow still managed to do another 2 miles today, and I have since felt a little bit better, but still can't shake the chills & sweats.  I hope they're gone tomorrow.  thank God I get along with my ex too.  she offered to take the kids tomorrow night as well in case I need an extra one and brought over some Pepto & Advil.  Although now the mental part is starting to creep in..."how am I going to do this clean"?.  I don't EVER want another day like today...
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I will,thank you for the support and kind words. It means a lot to me
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480448 tn?1426948538
Okay, I'm glad you're being monitored.  Hope everything is okay...that's definitely a slippery slope there.  Your health is at stake here....try to keep that in the front of your mind (I know that's easier said than done)
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Yes, I've had my liver checked. As I posted above, my doctor is not happy with my liver and kidneys right now and I am tapering off now and switching to oxycontin.
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480448 tn?1426948538
Percocet usually contains 325 mg of Acetaminophen, which at 40 pills a day, would equal 13,000 mg of Tylenol!  Oh hon, have you have your liver checked?  The MAX recommended daily intake of Tylenol is 3,000 mg (just dropped in 2011 from 4,000 mg max).  Make sure you're checked out, to be safe, okay?

All the best to you!
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Percocet is an opiate with aceteminophen in it. Its 10 oxy/345 acetminophen. 300 to 400mgs so I am taking 30-40 pills a day..Well, I was..I was given just plain oxycontin but one 40mg a day. Its been really rough so far. Today was my first day with a big jump to fewer pills. Not feeling well, very depressed, but not going to give in to temptation and take them. I won't do it. I won't.
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3955352 tn?1349096897
300 to 400 mgs???of what acetaminophen or the opiate?????
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I did do that, thats what I'm tapering down to. 300-400 mgs of Percocet a day.
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I've been there BB88...That's why I can't titrate.  just out of curiosity, if your doc is worried about your liver and kidneys why not just ask he/she for a script with no APAP?  that is what causes the liver and kidney damage, not the opiate.  how many Meg's a day are you taking?  
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I screwed up my second day of tapering..I woke up this morning, padded into the kitchen, fixed my cup of coffee, went into the living room and took a big handful like every other morning. I wasnt thinking. I HAVE to cut back because my doctor is worried about my liver and kidneys. Why isnt that enough? Why isn't that more than enough to make me want to stop, the potential to get very,very ill? and I'm still struggling..I feel like scum. Complete scum.
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Day 2...worse, but knew that was coming.  I read 2.25 books yesterday.  "Cornflakes With John Lennon", (awesome), "The Perks of Being a Wallflower" (touching, great story), and "The Dog Stars" (boring...can't finish).  Anybody have a good recommendation?  I think it really helps the time pass.  Also, went for a 2-mile walk/run today.  I think that helped, but today has been really tough so far...it helps to write on this board to know I am not alone...please let me know how you guys are doing because I really do care...I must have been delirious yesterday looking back at what I wrote.  I am a divorced DAD.  The kids are with their MOM until Friday night.  God, I hope I am better by then.  They really don't like being with her that long...this is the only 4 day window I will have all year so I gotta do it CT or I am kidding myself...I pray I don't cave.  it's hard when you have them sitting right there.  I have my 2nd herniated disk and have been prescribed these drugs to deal with the pain because my busy schedule won't allow for physical rehab...they work SO well, but the trade off just isn't worth it...we all seem to come by these so innocently, but look at all the grief they end up costing...why do our doctors allow this to happen?  I guess it isn't their fault.  Mine offered alternatives (injections, oral steroids, muscle relaxers, etc.), but the drugs work SO well.  it's an enigma.  well now I'm rambling.  I guess that is to be expected in my condition...
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I'm tapering .I've tried cold turkey a few times before and it just doesnt work for me. I get too crazy.
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I hate to say it, but this day wasn't as awful as some previous WD's I've had.  I was on between 45-105mg of OC daily for most of 2012 save for a few months.  I expect tonight to be pretty hairy, but I just took some diphenhydramine so I'm hoping it will work.  tomorrow I may have to take some (tiny dose) OC but I really don't want to lose this 4 day window I have with no work / no kids (divorced mom... they are with their dad for the rest of the week).  I drank a ton of Gatorade today, & water.  forced down some chicken soup, fruit, and bananas and read two books.  I think the books help a lot because so much of the WD is mental.  does anyone know how long it takes to leave your system officially or is it different for everyone?
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3955352 tn?1349096897
I need to taper because I have a broken foot and I can't bareboth plus a lot ofothershit going on right now there is no way I could c t . How do u feel? What wereyou taking and for how long????????
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today is/was my day 1 too.  I have the rest of the week off of work so I am trying CT, even though I have about 175mg left that I could probably taper.  also have some Gabapentin that I heard help, but I haven't had to go there...yet.  did you go CT or taper?
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480448 tn?1426948538
For someone who didn't have a history of opiate dependency, you probably wouldn't have had any issues.  Those receptors have a memory of sorts, which explains the w/d symptoms.

IBK makes some great points.  A taper is totally doable...not saying you would be totally discomfort free, but a steady decrease down before you jump may help quite a bit.

Call tomorrow and make an appt to go see the doctor, stop dealing with the nurse on the phone.  You don't really even have to go into great detail, just say you're not feeling well and would like to be seen.  Hopefully, he can give you some guidance.  If not, I'm sure you could figure out a reasonable taper.
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4592241 tn?1359813138
You might try clonidine patches...they help a little. I could not tolerate withdrawals from opanas so I am now on suboxone. but its pretty expensive and can have withdrawals from that also.
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He promised you wouldnt get sick? Wow. EVeryone is different, I'm surprised a doctor would make a promise of something like that. Why not make an appointment to go i nand see him, instead of trying to get the nurse to help? I really don't think you should just show up there, I htink that could backfire, you don't want to get dismissed from the practice. I know you're tired of being dependent but it just takes time. THeres no way to rush it, or get out of it without feeling some discomfort. You have plenty to taper off with, I think being on such strong opiates even for a short time like 4 weeks, your body stil lhas become very use to them and reliant on them. I got my first tast eof Percocet and after a few days of taking them seveal years ago, I started to get a bad headache and experiance withdrawal symptoms..My body just loved it..and thats how it all started and now I'm a full blown out of control addict. Everyone is different. IBKleen is right, slooow and steady. Good luck, praying for you! and myself lol. Today is day 1 for me.
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271792 tn?1334979657
I know I am coming in late on this but if you want off the pills, and I know you do, popping one to stop the withdrawal is not the way. When you do it this way it is almost like spiking your dose. A taper should be slow and steady. I hope you get your doctor and get this going right. Hang in there.
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3955352 tn?1349096897
I woke up this morning hot cold stomach queezy anxiety took 1 pill and started to feel better like 45 min later... I'm  surprised also my doc promised I would not get sick
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480448 tn?1426948538
Freely, sorry I asked 18 questions, I was just trying to get a clearer picture.  Honestly, 4 weeks is not that long.  Really, I'm surprised you're having such significant w/d.  

I agree with Ben above, that you probably won't even need all that you have left.  Try to get a hold of the doc himself, see if he'd be more helpful.  Most docs won't even really recommend a taper after that short period of time, but see what he says.

When you're all done, obviously, properly dispose of any extra to remove any temptation.

Good luck to you!
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1796826 tn?1578874779
Vicki's comment a little more than an hour before mine pretty much sums it up (along with the clarification that NG solicited). I'm thinking that based on how long (not long) you've been taking them, and the amount you still have in your possession, you should be able to work out a taper on your own. You may not even need everything you still have.
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