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on my 3rd day

im back!! well im quitting!! im on my 3rd day now and its been very uncomfortable!!! the worst is the restless legs and ZERO energy... its a task to move from room to room.. i stopped because i ran out... it will be thursday night before i get a chance to get more oxy but that will have givin me 7 days with out oxy.. its almost literally impossible to even type this... my whole body is shaking none stop... PLUS i got a mild cold right before qutting so i have to deal with both!!!.... Heres a little back ground info... im from seattle and thats where i get my oxy from but im vacationing in michigan ... so i only took ten pills (20's)  with me and thought id be okay with only 20mg a day but i waas wrong and soon ran out... so im stuck here and i want to go home sooo badly... i do want to quit but not in this type of pain... on the 7th day if im still in pain ill take oxy again or i might just keep toughing it out... but that all depends because school starts on the 23 and i cant go to school like this.. my whole life is based on oxy and i like it that way... even though i dont get high really anymore it still has changed my outlook and personality for the better... well anyway does any one have any ideas on how to at least gain some energy.. i need some... this totally sucks..  heeelppp mee :( :( :(.. btw if your in michigan and you can help me out with some oxy or any type of opiate then please write back with ur email adress ,,, im in east lansing then on tuseday im in grandrapids.. ANYTHING even methadone.. well thank you byebye
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Hi Everyone.  GEEZ!  I happened into a GREAT place.
I am in the same boat as all of you are.
I've tapered off of Methadone that I've been taking for a back injury about 10 years ago.  I was on 40mg for the last 3 of those years.  Before that, it was only 15mg.
Today is day four for me and I feel REALLY bad. (What did I expect? :)  )
Anyway, if someone can tell me what to expect, how long it will be before I can do more that walk 20 feet and collapse, when I will regain my strength, I would be forever in your debt.
I am in the fight for the long haul and have said that since I started my taper.  But, I have to admit.  I did not know it was going to be this bad.  I have NO energy and I feel like I am loosing hope, strength and the will to fight on.
Even if the news is bad, I would sure appreciate someone telling me what I can expect and how long (if ever) I will feel OK.  I'm going to start taking multi-vitamins and the doctor said to get on a B complex too. THEN, he added that I need an anti-oxidant too.  I'll do it, but will it speed up the process?  Will I EVER get my brain working right again.  I'm worried that I really messed it up good and it's not going to come back.
Thanks for reading this.  When I was in the treatment facility, I met some of the best people I have ever met.  Talk about an eye opener!  Anyway, God Bless each and every one of you.  I will pray for ALL of you people tonight.
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A OK?

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Glad to hear that you found something that will help you finally beat this. I am also going through it right now. Tyro/Lys are very similar amino's, just be happy it works.

Keep strong and stay positive,
Chezz
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I just wanted to say that maybe there is something to the lysine. I also bought l lysine by accident but felt too bad to return it.I decided to use it and after taking one half of hydro7.5 sat. morning,im still feeling ok.I have been through withdrawls more times than I can count and this time I feel like I will make it.
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I am sorry I wasn't there man...I was trying to post but kept getting kicked off by my PC...

Chezz, you didn't lose.  Man, you have to realize that this is not an easy thing to deal with and not an easy fight to win.  People who are addicted for the high have a hard time withdrawing...THEY DON'T have the addition of the physical pain that most here suffer...the pain that got them into the meds in the first place...don't kick yourself man...there is a time and a place in life for eveything and everyone to get where they need...this was just not the right time for you.

Work with your doc, adress the physical pain issue that you live with and let them help you with getting off the meds.   If my shopulder was still like it was three months ago...no way I'd be where I am today...NO WAY

If you need an ear, come here...I'm not going anywhere and there is a whole crowd who care about you.

Hang in there, we care and you CAN make it.
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Good job on not taking the Vikes.
I didn't fair so well. I was having a hard day yesterday, Day 4. It was hard to distinguish between pain or meds. Both my wife and my Doc want me to continue with the meds, see a nuerosurgeon that is worth a ****. My Doc said he will work with me on the addiction/dependency issue when the pain eases. My wife also wants me to do this. She says to use them as a tool to get better.
I still feel like ****, like I lost. It sucks so bad.
But I do know this is obviously the best thing for me right now. Otherwise I could probably be off the meds for a month or whatever b4 I would be back in his office. Fix the problem and the pain will go away.
I am just sick of taking the meds, and the mental battle taking them provide me with!

I hope you are doing better now Pon. I will tell you something. Yesterday b4 I called my doc, I wanted to hear from anyone on this site to help me through it. Especially you. I could have used some inspiration from you. You have helped alot.
So I hope when you are on day 25, ect. you are still here to help.
Sounds like you could have used a little help from us too. You were strong enough not to take them. Backup always helps though too.
I was reaching out yesterday, and lost.
Chezz
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I haven't flushed them for one simple reason (which goes back to kicking alcohol in 1987)...for me to feel that I am beating the addiction, and not just being forced through withdrawl by lack of meds, I need it there in front of me.  I have to stare it down each time I pass the bottle and say to myself that I am stronger then they are....if I'm going to backslide I'd just go find some somehow anyway...this way I know it is me beating them for real and that I am not fooling myself.

I wouldn't reccomend my ideas on this to anyone else.  I think it is a VERY individual thing and each person needs to make the decisions for themselves about how and where they find their strength.

Another big source for me is my daughters...I look at them and realize how much I want to see the fine and beuatiful people they can grow up to be...I won't be there if I am still taking, life would have long past deteriorated...

Thank you guys again, this is day 10 for me and I am actually feeling OK today...haven't cried oor anything.

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I agree about flushing them....when I flushed the last 120 percs down the bowl, it felt soooooo great, after they controlled me for so long!!
STAY STRONG
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Congratulations on putting the pills down......now go flush them.......Seriously--how can you detox w/  your DOC around?????It'd KILL me, emotionally and physically.  I'd stare at them all day and think of nothing else.  Such torment.
You are winning the battle and keeping things in perspective so keep on keepin' on!! Keep posting and good luck!!
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tried to post this last night but couldn't get on....hope all are welj...another day to go*****

Chezz
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Harley,

It is has been a tough day for me too. I called my doc.
Not good.

This battle, this struggle, its everyday. I am trying to get through it minute by minute.

Yet it seems so hard.

Chezz

I don't know where I am at or where I am going. I feel like an emotional roller coaster.

I just want to do the right thing. I have the pain, but I haven't been able to get the treatment I need. But I don't like how the pills "take my life away"

Im lost - Day 4
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im on day 2 its hard but i just have to tuff it out. I know in time i will make it. Thank you all for your help and understanding. I really need people to talk to.
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Harley, you can do it. I am on day 3 and I know the stuff that goes on in your head, everything.
Keep yourself positive. You have already gone threw two the hardest parts. Admitting you have a problem. And reaching out for help through this horrible mentally/physically draining time.

On my second day I woke up I felt better than anytime I was on meds.

You just have to post and let us know where you are at. We are here to help.

Chezz
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congratulations on day 1...it IS a big step you have taken...a big step towards something much better.

I am on day 8 of cold turkey.  The first 4 days were really the worst, after day 4 the physical syptoms began to taper away and lessen...by today they are virtually gone.  It is different for everyone...but the 4 day thing seems to be a fairly common timeframe for things to start improving.

Are you taking vitamins?  There are a lot of supplements that seem to help a lot.  I don't really know too much about them, but if you read the threads, you will find a wealth of info on it.  

Or just post and ask....you have found a wonderful group of people who share your pain and will help...keep posting, there lots of us here...we may all be different, have different w/ds, different experiences...but we are all the same in our addiction...folks here understand and will help.

Anyone out there who can give some supps advice...I don't know enough.

Hang in there...you can do this.  It WILL be hard, especially in the first few days, less hard (but not easy) after that, but you can do it...and you bare worth it.  Do it for you.
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yes, i do. The meds cost us alot of money. When you run out you have to find them and pay street price. so then it takes from your kids. today is payday it will be hard not to look for them today. Did you go cold turkey? i did it like that before. I made it 2 weeks then got my meds. i took just one and couldnt stop. this is day one for me. I have to do it for me to get healthy.
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PLEASE read WW's post...she is spot on.  W/D is not always easy...most of the time not, most of the time horrible...

You may not be ready, if so, your life, your choice.  I'll be worrying about you Hilliard....
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There is a major difference between lysine and tyrosine. Tyrosine is the amino acid that goes to work creating the raw materials for the neurotransmitters that opiate abuse depletes.
Lysine is also an amino acid, but I've never heard of it helping with neurotransmitters, though I could be wrong.  People take lysine to stop herpes cold sores, and it does work great for that.

I think the reason you started feeling better was the fact that you were on 7 days without the oxy. I don't think it was the lysine.

L-Tyrosine does help a bit, and when you are ready to stop, I'd definately recommend it.
I'm nervous for you.  You clearly say you are not ready to stop using, and that's ok. I wasn't for a long time either.  
But please don't let the addiction fool you into believing that withdrawal is easy, or that it is not going to destroy your life.

We are all in the same boat, just different stages of it.
I just know that life got much better once it no longer revolved around drugs.

love,
WW
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..."sorry now that I know withdrawaling can be somewhat easy, i'll be starting ..."

BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!
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Im not on my 3rd day. I just ran out about 3 hours ago. I already feel bad. Im 28 and a wife and a mother. I have a addiction to pain medicine. Its not just me its my husband to. I want to get off the pills for my children. They dont deserve this. I just dont know how i can handle the withdrawls. they make me so sick. I have to take care of my family. I dont get anymore meds till monday. i just have a hard time getting out of bed in the morning without my meds. I am in constant pain. I have only been taking the drugs for a year and a half. noone knows about me i try to hide it. but i think people suspect it. I just dont know what to do. We dont have anywhere to get help around here. I couldnt ask for it anyway on the account of my kids.
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I have kids too...want off for them...day 7 for me, not too bad...do you want to get off the pills for you?
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oh shush.. im fine now that im on tyrosine. thanks for the help from everyone!! sorry now that i know withdrawaling can be somewhat easy , im planning on starting my use again in a couple  of days. love u
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Hillard,


I realize you are in pain and experiencing some really bad withdrawals, but not only is it bad etiquette to ask a bunch of fellow addicts whom are trying to get clean themselves to provide you with drugs, it
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There is never a good time to go through w/d's.  I can truly simpathize, and I wish you the best.  You can get the best advice for dealing with the symptoms from Thomas and BMAC.  I used thier suggestions and well I finally am opiate free.  

I only want to say, tussonex may sound like a good idea, but being my drug of choice I know from personal experience that the w/d from it really suck.  It really fouls up your digestive system, which will lead to the worst case of the runs in history.  I now have the joy of about 12 inches less of my colon which I tie directly to the over use of tussonex.

Please just be careful...I will pray for relief for you in whatever you need...

God Bless
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THIS IS becoming worse every second i can barely move my arms or legs.. i dont want to quit oxys right now.... i know some day ill have to but , at that time ill want to be able to take clondine and whatever else a doctor can give me.... im not in the position to do that now .... so i just have to suffer it out :( :( hellppp this is the worst feeling and pain ive ever felt in my life jesus ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhghhhhhhhhh  :*(
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