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hello my name is tammy and i am new to this board. it was reccomended by another member here who also post on drugabuse.com. i am addicted to lorcet as well as whatever i can get my hands on. i plan to detox beginning monday for the fifth time. i get clean and always manage to fall back in it talk about tortureing oneself. the mental part is a ***** for me. anyways i really want to do it for good this time. it is very difficult for me, i work at home and have two small children to tend to. does anyone have any good advice for coming off these monsters and being able to stay off for good? i really will need support through this, it seems the boards do me more good than anything else. thank you tammy
I FEEL SO HORRIBLE. I HAVE BEEN ON ULTRAM FOR 2 YEARS AND FOUND MYSELF UP TO 10 A DAY. I RAN OUT SUNDAY AND DECIEDED TO GO C/T BUT LO AND BEHOLD COULDN'T DEAL WITH THE W/D SO WENT TO MY DR. TODAY AND GOT MORE. I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN MYSELF BECAUSE I GAVE IN SO EASILY BUT I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE ANOTHER DAY OF W/D'S OR PAIN. I FEEL LIKE A NEW PERSON WHEN I'M ON THEM. I SEEM TO SLEEP BETTER AND HAVE AN OVERALL SINCE OF WELL BIENG NOT TO MENTION THE INSTANT PAIN RELIEF. I THINK I'LL TRY THE TAPERING METHOD BECAUSE WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON IN MY LIFE AT THIS MOMENT I NEED TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION. I JUST TOOK 4 AND PRAY THAT THAT'S ALL I'LL NEED TONIGHT PLUS SHE GAVE ME A MILD MUSCLE RELAXER. (GOD, I HOPE I DON'T GET ADDICTED TO THAT TOO!)PLEASE PRAY FOR ME AND ANY ADVICE YOU CAN GIVE IS SO APPRECIATED. I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER NOW THAT I'VE FOUND THIS SITE AND SEE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE JUST LIKE ME OUT THERE.
hey there ... Well thats good that you've been able to get down to 3 at least .. you should be proud of yourself for that!!!! And yuo don't need to take any during the day to get thru .. thats good too! You're going in the right direction. You just need to get those 3 down to 0 .. ya know? Thats awesome your husband wz supportive. It's funny we think they're going to be omg! and start ranting and raving and say all these mean and nasty things when it turn it's just the opposite.
My kids were my reason for quitting....My oldest (18 ) knew about it and sometimes him and his friends would joke about it w/me .. need a vike momma bear? they would say .. used to **** me off cuz they found it funny ... they have no idea what its like and i hope my son realizes that it's hard and it's an addiction. Doesn't matter that the doctor prescribed it and kept giving them to me, i got hooked! ... I just couldn't stand the thought of my younger ones growing up w/out me .. it sickened me .. i cried everytime i thought about it. I knew it wz wrong to take that pill when i wz taking them but i couldn't help myself .. couldn't stop. I tried c/t and it just didn't work for me .. i wz taking anywere from 10-15 vikes a day or up to 3 80mg oxy's a day .. sometimes i would snort the oxy;s .. that wz another lite bulb moment! i was like what am i doing this for? am i that addicted? yes i wz
A friend told me about suboxone and i just didn't really believe that it would work and thought it wz a joke. When i seen her after she started it 2wks later, omg! what a difference ... And she wz worse than i wz on the pills, if you can believe that ... but even after day 2 when i talked to her over the phone i could hear a big change in her. She's been in rehab twice and has had a crack addiction too ... i figured if she can do it so can i ... Went to the same dr she did ( who is wonderful and now my pcp ) and started the suboxone. I had to give him every detail of my drug addiction, fess up to alot of things and felt like a ton of bricks were lifted from my shoulders. That next day i wz like, i feel so normal .. don't feel f'd up - cloudy, lazy, emotional .. i felt like i did before i started the pills. I have not taking a vicodin or oxy since apr 7 of this year. But suboxone does have a mild opiate in it....i can't explain how it works. one drug blocks the opiate but makes you not have the w/d's or cravings. i am slowly tapering from 24 down to 8mg .. i'm still at 20mg and next month will go down another 4mg .. i've had a bout of depression this last month and a half and he didn't feel that i could handle going down and didn't want to risk it .. i probably could of done it since he upped my paxil .. anyways .. thats my story. sorry to keep babblin .. seems like whne you start typing you just can't stop .. lol ..
how long have you been taking the pills and how long did it take for you to get down to 3? you should be proud of yourself for that and give yourself a pat on the back .. did you taper to get there?
Do it for yourself, your child and your husband .. You'll wish you would of done it sooner ... good luck to you ... my daughter just got home from pre-school .. see what they learned today - this wk is fire safety wk ... peace! i'll be on for a while too .. ;-p
My kids were my reason for quitting....My oldest (18 ) knew about it and sometimes him and his friends would joke about it w/me .. need a vike momma bear? they would say .. used to **** me off cuz they found it funny ... they have no idea what its like and i hope my son realizes that it's hard and it's an addiction. Doesn't matter that the doctor prescribed it and kept giving them to me, i got hooked! ... I just couldn't stand the thought of my younger ones growing up w/out me .. it sickened me .. i cried everytime i thought about it. I knew it wz wrong to take that pill when i wz taking them but i couldn't help myself .. couldn't stop. I tried c/t and it just didn't work for me .. i wz taking anywere from 10-15 vikes a day or up to 3 80mg oxy's a day .. sometimes i would snort the oxy;s .. that wz another lite bulb moment! i was like what am i doing this for? am i that addicted? yes i wz
A friend told me about suboxone and i just didn't really believe that it would work and thought it wz a joke. When i seen her after she started it 2wks later, omg! what a difference ... And she wz worse than i wz on the pills, if you can believe that ... but even after day 2 when i talked to her over the phone i could hear a big change in her. She's been in rehab twice and has had a crack addiction too ... i figured if she can do it so can i ... Went to the same dr she did ( who is wonderful and now my pcp ) and started the suboxone. I had to give him every detail of my drug addiction, fess up to alot of things and felt like a ton of bricks were lifted from my shoulders. That next day i wz like, i feel so normal .. don't feel f'd up - cloudy, lazy, emotional .. i felt like i did before i started the pills. I have not taking a vicodin or oxy since apr 7 of this year. But suboxone does have a mild opiate in it....i can't explain how it works. one drug blocks the opiate but makes you not have the w/d's or cravings. i am slowly tapering from 24 down to 8mg .. i'm still at 20mg and next month will go down another 4mg .. i've had a bout of depression this last month and a half and he didn't feel that i could handle going down and didn't want to risk it .. i probably could of done it since he upped my paxil .. anyways .. thats my story. sorry to keep babblin .. seems like whne you start typing you just can't stop .. lol ..
how long have you been taking the pills and how long did it take for you to get down to 3? you should be proud of yourself for that and give yourself a pat on the back .. did you taper to get there?
Do it for yourself, your child and your husband .. You'll wish you would of done it sooner ... good luck to you ... my daughter just got home from pre-school .. see what they learned today - this wk is fire safety wk ... peace! i'll be on for a while too .. ;-p
Hi. Thank you soo much for responding to me. I only have to take 3 at night just to stop the w/ds. I used to take more, but now I can go all day without them. I actually told my husband lastnight. he was very supportive! Turns out, he knew anyway!! I figured he did. But my parents have no idea. Im too ashamed to tell them. I have a 5 year old son and i reallly want to stop using. I couldn't deal with it if he ever found out. How long have you been clean? Any advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated!!! thx!
hey there and welcome...you've come to the right place. we are all here to listen and help the best we can. I see you've been using for 2 yrs. how many were you taking per day? right now basically you're taking them to prevent w/d's right? been there done that too ... What do you plan on doing and how are you planning on stopping? do you have anyone at all you can tell? I mean if you were to taper off of these are you strong enought to take them as the schedule states? i know i wasn't. Can you tell your husband? if not, why? you know they usually know something is up, whether its the addiction, they know. trust me .. my husband knew about it but my parents didn't .. i mean they knew i took pills but i don't think they realized the extent of it until i told them...they knew was just waiting for me to admit to how much and for how long...this explained my moods, my not wanting to participate in family functions and so on and so on ... once i started the suboxone treatment they were sooo happy. my husband and my 18yr old were too ... i have 2 other children that are 3 & 4 so they don't realize whats going on but eventually they would of known .. ya know? anyways, try talking to him or a friend .. very hard to fight this all by yourself....almost impossible .. i mean you can come on here when you having a hard time and all .. let me know how many you've been taking and what your plan of action is .. you HAVE to WANT it to do this ... k? ... thx! peace! ;-]
Hi. I am new to this board. I've been abusing pain medications for about two years now. It all started when i got my wisdom teeth pulled. I loved the way they made me feel. So, I started taking anything I could get my hands on.Now, I'm at the point where I need to take percocet in order to sleep at night. If I dont I have the withdrawl symptoms. I am an ordinary housewife and no one in my family has any idea I'm doing this. I want to stop, but i feel like i can't. I'm dreading the withdrawl symptoms. I just wanted to talk with people who understand what I'm going through. I would appreciate any advice. thanks.
Hi everybody. I'm new to the forum. I've finally admitted to myself that I have a problem with painkillers when my insurance wouldn't cover my refill (too soon) and I paid out of pocket for my vicoprofen to the tune of $75.00. I've had 2 back operations due to ruptures at l4-5 and l5-S1. I've been on pain meds before on and off without a problem. But since March of this year I've been on them constantly. I was able to quit for a month. The withdrawal was hell but I toughed it out but then the burning pain in the leg flared up again. Nothing kills the pain like opiates. My doc called in the script and the whole cycle starts over again. The problem is that I keep taking them after the pain is gone. I run out, then I get sick with withdrawal so I have the doc call in a script so I don't have to go through it. I can honestly say the only reason I stay on this **** is to AVOID withdrawal. Hydrocodone withdrawal is pure f*cking evil. Pardon my language but that's the only way I can describe it. I can't tell anyone about my situation and my self-esteem is in the toilet. I'm weaning myself off the Vicoprofen. Hopefully I can quit this time. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks for letting me rant.
Hmmm....
Funny thing about the INTENSE orgasms in the first few days of detoxing. I think It's because we've dulled our senses so much with the drugs that when we come off them, everything IS more noticable. A little paper cut hurts like hell, and an orgasm seems to EXPLODE through your whole mind and body. By the way, I'm a guy, and I'd forgotten just how good sex could feel-- Especially when you squirt like a faucet when you ***... (one of the shitty side-effects of the opiates is that the old sperm-count goes WAY down. BUT, in just the first week off the drugs, it all comes back!)
Cheers to you! And enjoy yourself while it lasts!
Jess
Funny thing about the INTENSE orgasms in the first few days of detoxing. I think It's because we've dulled our senses so much with the drugs that when we come off them, everything IS more noticable. A little paper cut hurts like hell, and an orgasm seems to EXPLODE through your whole mind and body. By the way, I'm a guy, and I'd forgotten just how good sex could feel-- Especially when you squirt like a faucet when you ***... (one of the shitty side-effects of the opiates is that the old sperm-count goes WAY down. BUT, in just the first week off the drugs, it all comes back!)
Cheers to you! And enjoy yourself while it lasts!
Jess
Well, I've been reading and thought I would post a comment. It all started a few years ago when I was prescribed Lortab for migraines. It went like that for three to four years just taking them here and there. Then my back started hurting and my knees starting hurting. I broke some bones in my back when I was younger and I weigh 290 LBS so my back and knees are shot. I met a man with a virtually infinite supply and at the time was making good money so before long I was taking 30 a day. My friend was taking 80 or so a day. YES...you CAN take that many. They just never worked on my like everyone else. The first time I took them for a migraine I had to take 30 MG.s and yes I count my dose in MG.s not in tablets. I hurt with them from constant W/D and I hurt without them from simple pain so I'm just....screwed. Well yall take care and I'll write again someday.
That is what it is a damn war. Don't you have to go to a clinic every morning to get methodone? I heard very bad things about it.
I was just wondering how you were doing? Did they come in the mail? Did you flush them? Well I am a big talk, I ended up with a 30 tab refill, I just couldn't go through another night like that again. I was going to ripe my f'in legs off. I talked to my doctor though and he gave me some ambien to sleep and some vitamins to help with the exhaustions so I will try again tomorrow. Once I get through this, I better never do this again. Even as I type that, I don't trust myself, I am insane, 100% BRAINLESS :{ Well, I hope you are doing it anyway. How do you get them through the mail. Wait don't tell me. paige
I will tell you what I experienced; I cannot imagine why it would not work for you. I know it has for many. Through a pain clinic, I was placed on Methadone. Methadone has a 24 hour half life. There is far less chance of addiction. It is less likely to feed your brain the euphoria that makes you crave opiates in the first place. If you take more than what you need to be comfortable, you will feel the euphoria; therefore, you have accomplished nothing. Otherwise, unlike the well known opiate pain meds, methadone can be used to take you down gradually, without the suffering. I was addicted to Oxycontin, and any other opiate I could find. After reaching a 100+ mg daily habit, which was unsustainable, I asked for help through my personal physician. I was sent to a neurologist; he started me on 80 mg. methadone daily. I weaned myself to 10 mg daily in one year, with no suffering. Due to my need for pain relief, I've gone back up to 30 mg daily. It works. There is no withdrawal torture as long as you don't jack up your dosage. It also prevents migraine headaches. Before methadone, I had at least one every month; after 17 months on methadone, I've had no migraines, and no cravings.
If you are a person of faith, you can be assured that Christ will make a difference to an extent that cannot be expressed in words. Otherwise, the methadone is the only way out, to my knowledge. I've been fighting this war for more than twenty years. Good luck to you.
Good luck!
If you are a person of faith, you can be assured that Christ will make a difference to an extent that cannot be expressed in words. Otherwise, the methadone is the only way out, to my knowledge. I've been fighting this war for more than twenty years. Good luck to you.
Good luck!
Hi Paige,
It's rare to find someone else withdrawing from darvon or darvocette. I did detox 5 years ago from vicodin/oxcycontin - had to go inpatient for that becasue it was very rough - I got a taste of those restless legs/anxiety and I couldn't deal with it.
But I haven't know what it's like withdrawing from darvocettes..guess I'm finding out now. I must say, I dont have restless legs/anxiety - I'm guessing he clonidine patch (which has lowered my blood pressure to 90/60 ...is helping that plus I take klonopin at night.
But these flu-like symptoms are relentless; I'm wondering is it a flu or is it withdrawal; it cooncided with stopping...so..and the fatigue is overhwleming too; blood pressure affects that too, it's hard to stay vertical for too long (and I have things to do!!!). I have a flight of stairs in my house - it's hard to walk up that, whew.
I'm hoping the darvos don't come in the mail - but I was actually hoping they would today which is a bad sign - if I can over a hump ... or feel fairly OK - I think I might just be able to flush them; right now it would be difficult....
Liza
It's rare to find someone else withdrawing from darvon or darvocette. I did detox 5 years ago from vicodin/oxcycontin - had to go inpatient for that becasue it was very rough - I got a taste of those restless legs/anxiety and I couldn't deal with it.
But I haven't know what it's like withdrawing from darvocettes..guess I'm finding out now. I must say, I dont have restless legs/anxiety - I'm guessing he clonidine patch (which has lowered my blood pressure to 90/60 ...is helping that plus I take klonopin at night.
But these flu-like symptoms are relentless; I'm wondering is it a flu or is it withdrawal; it cooncided with stopping...so..and the fatigue is overhwleming too; blood pressure affects that too, it's hard to stay vertical for too long (and I have things to do!!!). I have a flight of stairs in my house - it's hard to walk up that, whew.
I'm hoping the darvos don't come in the mail - but I was actually hoping they would today which is a bad sign - if I can over a hump ... or feel fairly OK - I think I might just be able to flush them; right now it would be difficult....
Liza
Hey Liza, if they come you should fluss them. It is not the flu, at least I don't think it is, I tried several times, sombie like state, every part of me gets weak. Anyway, I wish I had that patch right now. It is late and I am going to ripe my restless legs right off. I can not believe I have not run up to that damn draw and down what is left, I am just scared. I detoxed from other norcotics before and ended up in the hospital, I just can not do that this time, there is too much family trust I would be breaking. I have to stick this out and until I just can not take it anymore, I need to save what I have. I know, sounds crazy. I am thinking about another hot bath but the water running wakes everyone up. I have three kids, can't deal with them awake right now. Ripe My DAMN legs OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I wasn't a recovering alcoholic, I would just get very drunk right now, then I would pass out. I won't, haven't had any in two years and I am going to lick this thing too.
Good luck to you too, flush them okay, don't start over.
If I wasn't a recovering alcoholic, I would just get very drunk right now, then I would pass out. I won't, haven't had any in two years and I am going to lick this thing too.
Good luck to you too, flush them okay, don't start over.
I am on day one withdrawal from Darvon, same drug just no tylenol in it. The sleepy feeling is uncontrolable with this withdrawal. I can just fall asleep anywhere when I tried to withdraw before. I have about 35 darvon left, I just don't want to go there again. I can't I can't do this anymore. Some people say darvon withdrawal isn't so bad, but I don't agree. I am going to try some of the tips I am finding here on the board. Ie, the THOMAS stuff and the Imodium. I just know I will need energy and to get the restless legs to stop at night. That is when I always give in. You have gone a few days now, don't give in if they come in the mail....don't even keep them. It is a hell trap. Good luck!
I'm on day 5 (I think) for darvocet withdrawal - and I ache, got perpetual sniffles, sneezing uncontrollably and very little energy. I was expecting another order of darvocets 2 weeks ago, but they never came; so I don't have any ... but if I did...I don't know what I'd do??? If they were delivered today - I fear I'd take a few...I feel useless...just horrible.....
GUYS I REALLY APPRECIATE THE REPLY ON THAT ...IM GOING TO BE CHECKING THIS PERIODICALLY DURING MY WORK DAY , BECAUSE THIS IS WHEN I WANT THEM THE MOST , I GUESS BECAUSE THEY ARE AVAILABLE HERE AS WELL. ITS HARDER HERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. AND I KNOW NOW IM GOING TO NEED SOME BACK UP , BY TALKING ABOUT IT THROUGHOUT THE DAY...THIS IS DAY #3 FOR ME NOW ...IM ACTUALLY NOT FEELING THAT BAD RIGHT NOW ....IM ON THE IMODIUM BIG TIME THOUGH. AND I WOKE UP AT 0200AM LAST NIGHT AND COULDNT GO BACK TO SLEEP. I CAN FEEL AND PUSHING OR BURNING IN MY CHEST THAT GETS UNBEARABLE SOMETIMES. BUT , THIS TIME I KNOW I WILL MAKE IT ...I JUST LOVE MY FAMILY SO MUCH , AND I CANT LET THEM DOWN GUYS....HELP ME ALL YOU CAN PLSE ...THANKS MY NAME IS DAMON
You are very strong... on day 3 I was a complete basket case. I will be thinking and praying for you today. I have now made it to day 5 (this is uncharted territory for me). The advice here helpped alot in dealing the w/d.
Keep your head up and keep your eye on the prize...
God Bless
Good luck to everyone trying to start to detox today. I really understand, I love my family so so much, I am just starting to detox tody. It is only 10:00. I have some darvon in the house and I am already thinking about downing 6 and waiting until tomorrow. This is about the fifth time I have detoxed, once in a rehap, all the other times at home. You would think I would learn. That is the insanity of this whole mess, I always think I can handle it and I never can. I have a wonderful family, a wonderful life, I don't know how I keep ending up here. I can not let them know again. It just hurts them too much. I have to do this on my own. I took down the detox method recipe, I am going to try it. I hope something works. I just don't think I can do this again.
Wellbutrin and Zyban are exactly the same thing. One is prescribed for smoking cessation (Zyban) and one as an antidepressant.(Wellbutrin) The nomenclature difference is for insurance purposes. Some companies will pay for smoking cessation;others will not. The usual dosage is 300 mg/day, but the pill comes in two strengths; 100mg and 150SR, which is the sustained-release. Perhaps you need your dosage upped for quitting smoking? It does help, but you also REALLY have to want to quit. Peace--Peaz
Thanks for the encoragement. Jsmith just had another of the hot baths how could I have not known about that!!! I am in or around day 4 since the last time I used. This is the time that scares me the most. I have never made it to day 5. It seems as the w/d symptoms finally are letting up, this thing (craving, hunger, need) drops like a wall in front of me...
I am not going to do it today... If I have to take it minute by minute then so be it. I am honest when I say that having people to talk to like this is what is making the time possible, because believe me I know the time every walk-in clinc opens within a 25 mile radius.
Thanks againg everyone,
God Bless
I am not going to do it today... If I have to take it minute by minute then so be it. I am honest when I say that having people to talk to like this is what is making the time possible, because believe me I know the time every walk-in clinc opens within a 25 mile radius.
Thanks againg everyone,
God Bless
IVE been hiding my addiction for a while now , from everyone. Im trying to quit now , and am on day 2. ive read some of these postings, and i just cant believe how many people out there are just like me. Im very embarrased of my addiction. to the point of total depression. i was taking 2 days ago , about 4 10/500 hydro's a day. My story is pretty much the same. about 10 years ago i had a bad accident, where i went the a windshield, and broke just about everything. i was fine then at 18, but about 6 years later. i learned i have TMJ in my jaws. the pain was escruiating ,. and never let up. one day , a guy from work , threw a nice pretty blue pill, and said it would make the pain go away ...i ate it , and by god it was gone, for about 4 hours anyways. i then turned into the person,paying this guy for them . 10.00 a pill. about 200.00 to 250.00 a week to support my habit.,.. my financial staus is terrible now. im remarried and i dont want this hurting my marriage. i have to stay off these things. they are destroying my life. I just cant imagine me having something control me like this. i was always a very strong, and was always the leader of the pack. Now, i feel like a panicy crackhead on the prowl any second....guys i need help plse...anything you can offer me would be really appreciated ...thanks thodam
I want to re-iterate what Thomas said. That's basically the entire jist of what's on the 'other side' of withdrawal.
I had a problem with the aftermath more than anything, and I think that staying real busy is the key. Finding an outlet that allows you to feel a sense of accomplishment is something that's important to me, and exercise - that's probably what's made me stick with it so far. Those endorphins produced with an intense workout session is addicting to me, so I'm making sure I work out 4-6 days a week. Start slow, and work your way up. It doesn't feel so good the first couple of times, then it becomes something to really look forward to. Before I injured my back and started taking the pills, I frequented the gym daily - that really was my addiction, so trying to replace one addiction for another healthier one is the goal now. I also have my husband for my support system, that's about it as far as the support goes, so I lean on him and he's been great. It's good that you're looking toward what's on the other side - there is a honeymoon period after detox that occurs where you feel so awesome and proud, but when everything calms down a bit, there can be a hole left where drugs used to be (at least with me) - that space can easily be filled with constructive activities. I've found that having a schedule to adhere to and not let my mind wander is also important, I've already relapsed once, and I'm determined not to do it again.
I had a problem with the aftermath more than anything, and I think that staying real busy is the key. Finding an outlet that allows you to feel a sense of accomplishment is something that's important to me, and exercise - that's probably what's made me stick with it so far. Those endorphins produced with an intense workout session is addicting to me, so I'm making sure I work out 4-6 days a week. Start slow, and work your way up. It doesn't feel so good the first couple of times, then it becomes something to really look forward to. Before I injured my back and started taking the pills, I frequented the gym daily - that really was my addiction, so trying to replace one addiction for another healthier one is the goal now. I also have my husband for my support system, that's about it as far as the support goes, so I lean on him and he's been great. It's good that you're looking toward what's on the other side - there is a honeymoon period after detox that occurs where you feel so awesome and proud, but when everything calms down a bit, there can be a hole left where drugs used to be (at least with me) - that space can easily be filled with constructive activities. I've found that having a schedule to adhere to and not let my mind wander is also important, I've already relapsed once, and I'm determined not to do it again.
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