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sarah11
Hello. I have been a member of this forum since around November 2006 or so. I have also been reading the posts from today. I dont always make my own post because I feel like I just repeat myself all the time. I think you said somewhere that you came here to see if you would get the same response as one of your friends did awhile back. Is your friends name mammaofpoohbear? Because if so then I remember that argument. It got blown way out of porportion, everyone apologized to each other and we got on with helping one another.
Anyways to my point, in your first post you told everyone that it was just all in their heads. You later said that that is what the doctors told you. Well I am here to tell you (not in a snotty way) that some doctors dont know sh*t. Let me give you a personal example. I have fibromyalgia. I went to see a pain specialist for it and he told me that the pain was just all in my head. That was his opinion, but I knew that what I was feeling was not just in my head. The pain is real. So real and painful that there are days that I can hardly get out of bed. So when that doctor told me that, I went and got a second opinion. Just out of curiosity, did you ever get a second opinion? If not perhaps you should.
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Anyways to my point, in your first post you told everyone that it was just all in their heads. You later said that that is what the doctors told you. Well I am here to tell you (not in a snotty way) that some doctors dont know sh*t. Let me give you a personal example. I have fibromyalgia. I went to see a pain specialist for it and he told me that the pain was just all in my head. That was his opinion, but I knew that what I was feeling was not just in my head. The pain is real. So real and painful that there are days that I can hardly get out of bed. So when that doctor told me that, I went and got a second opinion. Just out of curiosity, did you ever get a second opinion? If not perhaps you should.
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You later told us that you took around 20 norco a day and you quit cold turkey without any withdrawls. Thats awesome. I also take norco on a daily basis *up to 8 per day* and I have had my meds stolen from me before. I had to go 2 weeks without any and I, like you did not go through any withdrawls. For that I am thankful.
As I read some of the peoples posts on here I think to myself how lucky I am that I do not have to go through that kind of hell. I have gone through a withdrawl before, but it was coming off of the antidepressant effexor. It felt as if someone had a shock collar on me and was zapping my brain. It was far from fun, but I made it through it.
I dont think that the people come here to wallow in self pitty though. They come here looking for support, or to give support to those who need it. I have become friends or atleast I consider them friends on here. It is nice to have someone to talk to, even if it is online about problems that you are facing, especially those that you feel like you can not talk to anyone around you personally.
There are many folks on here who are successful and professional people who have fallen victim to the addiction to pills and other things. I do not believe they are coming here for a pity party, or for us to feel sorry for them, but they are looking for advice and understanding.
They do not want or need ANYONE judging them while they are trying to beat a disease, and they sure dont need to hear that its all in their heads. And yes I believe that addiction to anything is an incurable disease. Sure you may think you have it beat because you have so many clean days behind you, but there is always that chance that you could relapse.
I mean in a sense you are right it is in their heads, but any addiction comes with physical and mental dependancies. They feel the pains, they have to retrain their brains to learn to go without the drug, whatever it might be.
Addiction does not discriminate. It doesnt matter what kind of addiction either, whether it be street drugs, prescription drugs, pornography, food, gambling, or for godsakes whatever else you could get addicted to. It does not care how rich or poor you are,what your color of skin is, your race, age, or what religion you are, if it has a chance, any chance at all, it will grab you and try to suck you in. And if you are one of the unlucky souls that has the addictive personality, then you might as well kiss your sober days goodbye.
Perhaps you and I are a couple of the lucky ones. Maybe we do not have the addictive personality, atleast not to prescription drugs. So we don't know what it is like to feel like **** without the pills, good for us, but don't go rubbing it in the faces of those who have to feel the pain and suffering. Who knows, maybe it is something else that we dont even know about yet.
All I am saying is you should not come onto the message board and down the people on here who are looking for help. If it were you who need advice, they would have given it to you, but you basically came on here bragging about how you werent feeling the same withdrawl symptoms they were. They really dont need to hear that. Their pain is real, their withdrawl symptoms are real, as well as the guilt they carry around with them for keeping this a secrete from family and friends. I mean really if you are not feeling well, and you have the runs do you feel like going outside and taking a walk and acting as if everything is hunky dory? Im betting not. Its much easier said than done my dear. This may just be the internet and a message board, but these people have feelings and they are real. Some of them right now are having a hard time admitting to their addiction and again they dont need to hear someone telling them to suck it up and quit being a baby about it. Its just not that easy....sorry
If you would have take the time to read some of the older posts maybe you could have seen that alot of the stories are the same, they go through the same types of symptoms.
I am not here to b*tch at you for your post. I am not angry with it. I see your point, and I see the addict and everyone elses point on this issue too. Perhaps next time you could state it differently. As if it were your opinion, and not like you have solid evidence that the statment you made is true.
Good luck to you on your staying clean by going cold turkey. And thank your lucky stars that you were spared the withdrawls that so many others on here have to suffer through.
Aurora
As I read some of the peoples posts on here I think to myself how lucky I am that I do not have to go through that kind of hell. I have gone through a withdrawl before, but it was coming off of the antidepressant effexor. It felt as if someone had a shock collar on me and was zapping my brain. It was far from fun, but I made it through it.
I dont think that the people come here to wallow in self pitty though. They come here looking for support, or to give support to those who need it. I have become friends or atleast I consider them friends on here. It is nice to have someone to talk to, even if it is online about problems that you are facing, especially those that you feel like you can not talk to anyone around you personally.
There are many folks on here who are successful and professional people who have fallen victim to the addiction to pills and other things. I do not believe they are coming here for a pity party, or for us to feel sorry for them, but they are looking for advice and understanding.
They do not want or need ANYONE judging them while they are trying to beat a disease, and they sure dont need to hear that its all in their heads. And yes I believe that addiction to anything is an incurable disease. Sure you may think you have it beat because you have so many clean days behind you, but there is always that chance that you could relapse.
I mean in a sense you are right it is in their heads, but any addiction comes with physical and mental dependancies. They feel the pains, they have to retrain their brains to learn to go without the drug, whatever it might be.
Addiction does not discriminate. It doesnt matter what kind of addiction either, whether it be street drugs, prescription drugs, pornography, food, gambling, or for godsakes whatever else you could get addicted to. It does not care how rich or poor you are,what your color of skin is, your race, age, or what religion you are, if it has a chance, any chance at all, it will grab you and try to suck you in. And if you are one of the unlucky souls that has the addictive personality, then you might as well kiss your sober days goodbye.
Perhaps you and I are a couple of the lucky ones. Maybe we do not have the addictive personality, atleast not to prescription drugs. So we don't know what it is like to feel like **** without the pills, good for us, but don't go rubbing it in the faces of those who have to feel the pain and suffering. Who knows, maybe it is something else that we dont even know about yet.
All I am saying is you should not come onto the message board and down the people on here who are looking for help. If it were you who need advice, they would have given it to you, but you basically came on here bragging about how you werent feeling the same withdrawl symptoms they were. They really dont need to hear that. Their pain is real, their withdrawl symptoms are real, as well as the guilt they carry around with them for keeping this a secrete from family and friends. I mean really if you are not feeling well, and you have the runs do you feel like going outside and taking a walk and acting as if everything is hunky dory? Im betting not. Its much easier said than done my dear. This may just be the internet and a message board, but these people have feelings and they are real. Some of them right now are having a hard time admitting to their addiction and again they dont need to hear someone telling them to suck it up and quit being a baby about it. Its just not that easy....sorry
If you would have take the time to read some of the older posts maybe you could have seen that alot of the stories are the same, they go through the same types of symptoms.
I am not here to b*tch at you for your post. I am not angry with it. I see your point, and I see the addict and everyone elses point on this issue too. Perhaps next time you could state it differently. As if it were your opinion, and not like you have solid evidence that the statment you made is true.
Good luck to you on your staying clean by going cold turkey. And thank your lucky stars that you were spared the withdrawls that so many others on here have to suffer through.
Aurora
So beautifully written. Such meaningfull points.
So not needed.....So not wanted... So sick of it all...
If only there was somepalce else I knew to go>>>
So not needed.....So not wanted... So sick of it all...
If only there was somepalce else I knew to go>>>
People like you guys and so many others have to stay here so new people like me don't loose it listening to this ****. I have to believe that most of the people here including myself are here for only one reason - to give and receive support. Not to fight, ya - ya, or write soliloquies that are true, long and helps no one in the throws of w/d. Please don't write that I am mean or whatever, Im just really wanting everyone to redirect the energy and get back to what's important. I look forward to talking with you soon. Thanks
I have a question. I was taking oxycontin and oxycodone...I got off that **** cause I didn't like the stigma related to taking pain medications of that caliber... So, my doc put me on Ultram and all that did was make me dizzy, no warm fuzzy feeling...nothing. So, then my doc put me on Vicoden 10mg and still nothing no warm fuzzy feeling... What is going on? Can ultram make your receptors all messed up? I was off all narcotics a week before starting the ultram, which I did by tapering myself... Any hints...
First of all why are you wanting to take the pain meds? Do you have actual pain that you need them for, or are you just looking for a high? I take the 10 mg hydrocodone and I do not get the warm fuzzy feeling either, but I am not looking for that feeling when I take the med. I take it to get rid of my pain, or to atleast bring the pain down a little bit. I used to also take ultram, or tramadol, and it didnt do anything for me. I got no fuzzy feeling, no dizzy feeling, and it sure in hell didnt help my pain any.
I guess what I am trying to say is that some people just dont get that warm fuzzy feeling from meds. Everyone reacts to them differently, if I were you, I would feel grateful for that. Then you may not get yourself hooked on them, unless you just keep on trying by taking more and more to try to get that feeling.
I guess what I am trying to say is that some people just dont get that warm fuzzy feeling from meds. Everyone reacts to them differently, if I were you, I would feel grateful for that. Then you may not get yourself hooked on them, unless you just keep on trying by taking more and more to try to get that feeling.
I actually have a true injury and it's not fibromyalgia..I guess the warm fuzzy feeling for me helps with the pain. Thanks for the input though! ;)
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