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hey guys....i have having alot of problems with sleep as most of us do....does anyone know when this stops?...i am clean from oc's for almost 2 months on the 12th....i never thought id get this far....but this sleep thing is driving me insane.....i have valim to take but i dont wanna do that every night.....ive already had to take 2 of those over the weekend......thank god i dont like them lol....i have a script of percosets here ive took 4 of those in 2weeks.....i have been tempted to take one just so i can sleep....but that will mess up my whole way of thinking....the only way i cannot abuse those is to keep telling myself "only when needed for pain" so if i were to take those just to sleep id be in trouble..im weird i know but its just how i have to do this......
also does anyone else have someone in their family or friends who just dont get it? my mom says some really harsh things to me.....she knows my condition she has saw me go thru so much but yet she'll say something like "i cant belive i raised a drug addict,drug addicts r such liars and thievs" she acts like im gonna steal from her and everything ...i have never stole anything.....but then when im in pain and she sees me shes like why dont u take some pain meds u shouldnt suffer yourself like this......im like ugggggg......my dad understands completely (hes been there done that) and he tries to defend me but she just doesnt understand(never been addicted to anything)she also thinks its her fault...what can i say to her to make her realize its not and change her views about addicts and addiction?.....stupid ? i know but she is driving me crazy ...to the point i dont wanna be around her anymore..she calls and i have my kids say im in bed and she'll say to them "what did she do? take to many pills?" to my kids!!!!!!......dont get me wrong i love my mom but damn u know.....hope this wasnt to long lol......any advice would be so greatly appreciated...thanks guys
also does anyone else have someone in their family or friends who just dont get it? my mom says some really harsh things to me.....she knows my condition she has saw me go thru so much but yet she'll say something like "i cant belive i raised a drug addict,drug addicts r such liars and thievs" she acts like im gonna steal from her and everything ...i have never stole anything.....but then when im in pain and she sees me shes like why dont u take some pain meds u shouldnt suffer yourself like this......im like ugggggg......my dad understands completely (hes been there done that) and he tries to defend me but she just doesnt understand(never been addicted to anything)she also thinks its her fault...what can i say to her to make her realize its not and change her views about addicts and addiction?.....stupid ? i know but she is driving me crazy ...to the point i dont wanna be around her anymore..she calls and i have my kids say im in bed and she'll say to them "what did she do? take to many pills?" to my kids!!!!!!......dont get me wrong i love my mom but damn u know.....hope this wasnt to long lol......any advice would be so greatly appreciated...thanks guys
OMG, we are so similar. It is amazing. I did the same thing. After my RLS went away,. I had this notion in my head that I couldn't sleep and i could NEVER sleep. I tried the melatonin and they worked great. I am fairely sure they may be addictive, I am not postive. But I know they are a natural sleep aid. And are pretty strong. They can be bought in 1mg or 3mg pills. So be careful if you buy the 3mg. But they will totally relax your body and put you off to sleep. If you can, spread it out and take it every other night or every few nights. Once you are sleeping well again, you may not need anything. But they have worked for me, even when I had RLS, they put me to sleep. Take like 20mins before bed...
Good luck girl...
xo, Lisa
Good luck girl...
xo, Lisa
no offense taken ..its the truth....im thinking about letting her read some of my posts espically the ones when i was w/d bad....maybe she would see things differently i doubt it though shes stuck in her old ways.....
yeah we do have alot in common unfortunately oc's r the link lol....its a miracle we r still alive girl...u know that?....some here have overdosed on a much smaller amount than we were taking daily...2 very lucky girls......is the melatonin addictive? lol....i know that some herbal stuff is even addictive....like those energy drink things red bull etc....do u know what is in the melatonin that makes u sleep?i am desperate to try anything this morning i was very grouchy to my kids and hubby and i just cant go on like this......i was sleeping pretty good(i think 4-5hrs is good for me) then last week boom no sleep ....i dont have rls or anthing like that it just seems like im high or something my mind is racing and my body just wants to go go go...but i dont have the energy to do anything either...im so screwed up lol.......im so jealous of hubby too after about 4 or 5 dys of w/d he was sleeping so good and i have to lay beside him and liste to him snore away he sux....
how r u doing btw? hope all is well.....
yeah we do have alot in common unfortunately oc's r the link lol....its a miracle we r still alive girl...u know that?....some here have overdosed on a much smaller amount than we were taking daily...2 very lucky girls......is the melatonin addictive? lol....i know that some herbal stuff is even addictive....like those energy drink things red bull etc....do u know what is in the melatonin that makes u sleep?i am desperate to try anything this morning i was very grouchy to my kids and hubby and i just cant go on like this......i was sleeping pretty good(i think 4-5hrs is good for me) then last week boom no sleep ....i dont have rls or anthing like that it just seems like im high or something my mind is racing and my body just wants to go go go...but i dont have the energy to do anything either...im so screwed up lol.......im so jealous of hubby too after about 4 or 5 dys of w/d he was sleeping so good and i have to lay beside him and liste to him snore away he sux....
how r u doing btw? hope all is well.....
Honey, tell your Mom to just butt out. No offense, but she has no clue what you are going through and what you have been through. NO ONE understands an addict but another addict. So you Dad can be so very beneficial to you now. Utilize him, please.
And as far as the sleep goes. You were taking a pretty high dose of Oxy. I think you are the only person Ive seen on here in almost 1 yr that was taking almost as much as me. I have yet to meet anyone on here that took that much. Anyway, both times I truly, truly quit Oxys, my w.d lasted almost 2 months. And when I say that, I mean really bad w.d the first 5 days, then then each day got better and better. For me, because I was taking so much for so long, it took so long to get back to normal. For me, the first 5 days were hell complete with Chills, Sweats, cramps, and insomnia. Then after that, the next two weeks were insomnia, RLS and depression. Then the next two weeks were EXTREME fatigue and insomnia. Then the next two were just fatigue. So it seems like forever. But that just your body reacting to the hell we've put it though, ya know. I think everyone is different, but for long term, high dose, opiate users, it isn't pleasant. Oxy w.d is not as bad a methadone or Heroin, but pretty damn close. Closer then most other opiates. So I hope this helps, somewhat. Have you tried Melatonin? It is a natural sleep enhancer. It can be purchased at Rite Aid or any GNC or pharmacy. Its an OTC sleep aid, but stronger then like Tylenol PM. It works wonders. Don't take to much though as it puts your body in a deep relaxed state. Good luck.
xo, Lisa
And as far as the sleep goes. You were taking a pretty high dose of Oxy. I think you are the only person Ive seen on here in almost 1 yr that was taking almost as much as me. I have yet to meet anyone on here that took that much. Anyway, both times I truly, truly quit Oxys, my w.d lasted almost 2 months. And when I say that, I mean really bad w.d the first 5 days, then then each day got better and better. For me, because I was taking so much for so long, it took so long to get back to normal. For me, the first 5 days were hell complete with Chills, Sweats, cramps, and insomnia. Then after that, the next two weeks were insomnia, RLS and depression. Then the next two weeks were EXTREME fatigue and insomnia. Then the next two were just fatigue. So it seems like forever. But that just your body reacting to the hell we've put it though, ya know. I think everyone is different, but for long term, high dose, opiate users, it isn't pleasant. Oxy w.d is not as bad a methadone or Heroin, but pretty damn close. Closer then most other opiates. So I hope this helps, somewhat. Have you tried Melatonin? It is a natural sleep enhancer. It can be purchased at Rite Aid or any GNC or pharmacy. Its an OTC sleep aid, but stronger then like Tylenol PM. It works wonders. Don't take to much though as it puts your body in a deep relaxed state. Good luck.
xo, Lisa
yeah that pissed me off big time....i called her back and of course screaming match....uggggggg......my husband has never said anything bad about my mom or dad but this time he was pissed at her.....so was my dad...just makes me feel like ****....we went shopping the other day and the whole time she clutched her purse like i was gonna steal money or some ****....i was like mom ive never stole anything u can let go of your purse now and she said "u never know with a druggie" but then she will contradict herself when she sees me in pain she changes completely "wheres ur pain meds at ? u need them" and if i have to take one shes like "i knew u couldnt stop" just **** like that.....she hasnt even mentioned the fact ive quit oc's .....i think she said she was proud of me one time....shes been giving my dad hell too because he was an addict about 8 yrs ago and he came clean when i did (she had no clue) he quit c/t from about 25 lortabs a day.....shes just clueless....ive asked her if she would be willing to find a meeting and go with me nope...doesnt want to be around "those people" dont hate my mom lol....shes just doesnt get it......
i dont like the valiums but yet im afarid if i do start taking them regularly i will start to like them lol......im on alot o meds so i will have to check on the benadryl hadnt thought of that one....i have some lunesta but ive never took it.....im kinda scared to take anything anymore lol........
if u dont mind my asking what were u addicted to? and r u clean,c/ting or tapering? i havnt been on much and i have some catching uo to do lol.....iwill find some of your posts and catch up i promise.....hope im not being rude.......thanks for the advice....
if u dont mind my asking what were u addicted to? and r u clean,c/ting or tapering? i havnt been on much and i have some catching uo to do lol.....iwill find some of your posts and catch up i promise.....hope im not being rude.......thanks for the advice....
that is so true one is to many and a 1000 is not enuff...so true...i did come clean to my dr i told her how many i was doing and that i was an addict and she still gave me a script....i dont know.....i didnt start abusing my meds until i started on the oxcy's....b4 the oxy's i took them as prescribed i would even have some left over with the percosets...but oc's oh no...as for my mom i do consider it ignorance....but when it involves my kids i draw the line u know i just dont want us to not be able to get along and when i try to tell her something we just end up screaming at each other so right now im just choosing to ignore her.....not working though shes very pushy lol......what she doesnt understand is the more she agitatates me the more i wanna go get an oxy and do it......that was my safety net and now i dont have it......i dont know im just so confused thanks for the advice and how r u doing btw?
your mom really has crossed the line telling your kids whatd she take to many pills, does she want them to think your a bad mother or what, or if they ever have a pill problem, theyll think back to what grandma said bout mama and think well must be in my blood, god that infuriates me, i cant stand people that have no idea what they are doing to others with a few words, i think she really needs to talk to someone about addiction, or maybe look it up in the dictionary, why do parents exploit your weaknesses, when they should be helping you strengthen yourself
Sounds like you need to have a real good long sit down with your folks. Maybe just your mom! First of all, let her know straight up that drugs of any kind are off limits to your kids!!! This only shows the disrespect she has for you to them. NOT GOOD!!! Your not alone with this sleepless thing. I took 1/2 valium last night and still rolled all night long and finally logged on at 4am. My husband wakes easy so a hot bath was not an option. If you dont like the valium (which I do not either) take them to sleep instead of the pain meds. Thats what your addicted too. The longer the pain meds are out of the picture you wont depend on them. Then lower the dose of the valium until not needed, if you have no other contradicting medical conditions that would be compromised... try Benedryl. It helps with the sleep issue also. I dont know how long it last, but, I sure hope not long because my mind and body are tired but my brain wont lay down... lol!
Hi oxygirl,
I'm sorry your having issues with sleep. When I got clean from vicodin, I couldn't sleep for **** for about the first two months. Now I can sleep like a baby, and I absolutly love to sleep. Unfortunalty I don't have much advice for using pain meds as they are prescribed by an 'INFORMED PHYSICIAN' an infomed physician is someone that knows that you are an opiate addict that tends to abuse your medication.. I'm so thankful that I don't really have pain problems, but I've asked myself what I'd do if I did... I can honestly say that I'd be more inclined to non-narcotic pain relief methods. There are many that can be successful if you have an honest desire to not use narcotic pain relief. I don't know what your pain situation is, but I would suggest that you explore these methods. For me, one is too many, and a thousand never enough...
As for your mom, there are al-anon groups that can help her if she is having a hard time dealing with your addiction.. The important thing is that you take care of you, and that you realize it's not your fault your an addict...you have a disease, and I for one commend you for trying to battle it. It may help to think of your mom, as 'ignorant' of addiction..
I'm sorry your having issues with sleep. When I got clean from vicodin, I couldn't sleep for **** for about the first two months. Now I can sleep like a baby, and I absolutly love to sleep. Unfortunalty I don't have much advice for using pain meds as they are prescribed by an 'INFORMED PHYSICIAN' an infomed physician is someone that knows that you are an opiate addict that tends to abuse your medication.. I'm so thankful that I don't really have pain problems, but I've asked myself what I'd do if I did... I can honestly say that I'd be more inclined to non-narcotic pain relief methods. There are many that can be successful if you have an honest desire to not use narcotic pain relief. I don't know what your pain situation is, but I would suggest that you explore these methods. For me, one is too many, and a thousand never enough...
As for your mom, there are al-anon groups that can help her if she is having a hard time dealing with your addiction.. The important thing is that you take care of you, and that you realize it's not your fault your an addict...you have a disease, and I for one commend you for trying to battle it. It may help to think of your mom, as 'ignorant' of addiction..
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