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slow methadone detox
Anyone out there have any experience in detoxing slow from methadone? I have been detoxing 1 mg. every other week. I was on 65 mg for over 15 years! I was doing ok until I got to 6 mg. now the old familiar withdrawal symptoms are returning. I could use some feedback on this please...
oh man every thing feel apart today , 5 years of taking dome and the dr said no more becaue the RX got miss placed not the pills just the papper well after they said sorry we can not see you any more . we thought oh man got to find them found them ! and think oh thank god every thing is ok . take it back to him and he tears it up and says i think you were trying to get one over on me . never have i ever had anything like this happen in 5 years and he just says forget you . i have one mouth of med, at 30 mg a day because i droped one of the 2 RX off befor going to him so i was able to get that so i have somthing to wing down on . any help on this would be much help. damn i am scared been on this too long but i think i am rdy to get clean would be so nice to not have that goast following me .
I found this site sort of by accident, then became enthralled with Sharon's journey. I found a LOT of great information and support, but the last post I saw/could find was 4 years ago.
I noticed most of the Subutex Suboxone conversation was dated about 5-6 years ago, and since then it has become easier to get and the detoxes have gotten much better. I had a friend who just went through a 7-day detox from heroin using buprenorphine & clonopin and he reported NO withdrawals (except a restlessness after it was over)
I was just wondering if anyone has heard from or about Sharon, I pray she made it clean or at the very least hasn't given up. If you've heard from or about her please let me know.
I noticed most of the Subutex Suboxone conversation was dated about 5-6 years ago, and since then it has become easier to get and the detoxes have gotten much better. I had a friend who just went through a 7-day detox from heroin using buprenorphine & clonopin and he reported NO withdrawals (except a restlessness after it was over)
I was just wondering if anyone has heard from or about Sharon, I pray she made it clean or at the very least hasn't given up. If you've heard from or about her please let me know.
i need adviice im 20 years old in college ive been on methadone for a year in october im only on 50 mg and i havent went ne higher than that...im soo scared to get off of it and im starting my detox my year clean in oct. i want to get off of methadone and i know withdrawl from it is horrible how should i go down onmy dose how slow how fast, is their ne other methods to make it easier is there ne thing i can do im so scared buti dont want to be bound to this **** ne longer
Thanks for the info... I was on 65mg for more than 15 years, went down to 30 at a 5mg decrease when I got to 30 I started on 1mg every other week this was ok until 6mg. So I am holding for awhile on 6mg. I did think of possibly using darvon but not sure if my doctor will prescribe this. Anyways I spoke with a physician who prescribes bup. and I have an app't to see him. But if this doesn't work out then I plan to continue my detox the way I have been going but just a little bit slower, so that is why I was interested in how slow the detox was. All in all I WILL DO THIS!!! I am motivated, and determined.
Sharon
Sharon
Sorry I did not read the first part of this forum. You can use Darvon to help with the rest of the way. Remember Methadone stays in your system 72 hrs. Until your Mu receptor can make its own natural opiates taking more drugs will only put off this process. Darvon is similar in chemical structure and half life to methadone. Take both at first then go to the darvon. You can also switch to codine which is shorter acting. The use of a benzo with this helps, but only use the benzo for a short time or you will have a benzo problem. I take alot of vitamins like B100, folic acid, a multi vitamin and plenty of C.
Sometimes I would increase the dosage for a day or two and then back off where I left off. This short increase will not bring up your tolarance, but give you some relief.
There is also a new anti-depressent called remaron(spelling may be off). It is suppost to help your body produce natural indorphines.
There is a guy in this forum under the title "Worst drugs to get off of". Look at it he is the 3rd or 4th listing. He was on 120mg and tapered off 6mg per week.
Most people can handle a 20% cut per week in methadone. That means at 25 mg you should be able to cut off 5 mg for that week.
Sometimes it is better to taper faster at start and slow at the end. It trigers you mu receptors to start producing natural opiates faster.
Hope it helps, remember everyone is different and I am no doctor.
Sometimes I would increase the dosage for a day or two and then back off where I left off. This short increase will not bring up your tolarance, but give you some relief.
There is also a new anti-depressent called remaron(spelling may be off). It is suppost to help your body produce natural indorphines.
There is a guy in this forum under the title "Worst drugs to get off of". Look at it he is the 3rd or 4th listing. He was on 120mg and tapered off 6mg per week.
Most people can handle a 20% cut per week in methadone. That means at 25 mg you should be able to cut off 5 mg for that week.
Sometimes it is better to taper faster at start and slow at the end. It trigers you mu receptors to start producing natural opiates faster.
Hope it helps, remember everyone is different and I am no doctor.
I do not know what your original dosage was. I need to know how much you tapered per amount of time. How long were you on it.
I am not a doctor but have access to a Psyc. Tech at a Detox center. There are other options and drugs you can use.
Please answer this question and I might be able to tell you how to get back to about 70% where you can function, but with some weakness.
I am not a doctor but have access to a Psyc. Tech at a Detox center. There are other options and drugs you can use.
Please answer this question and I might be able to tell you how to get back to about 70% where you can function, but with some weakness.
So are you off now? Explain the taper to me from 5mg on. I am on holding at 6mg right now and will be going to 5 soon. I started getting very uncomfortable at 6mg. so I am holding too hard to go to work etc. Maybe I should do this even slower? Temm me more, please...
Sharon
Sharon
I have been taking 60mg of methadone for over 2 years for pain.
Thru workout treatments the pain has subsuided. I have been tapering off at the rate of 5mg per week. When I hit 5 mg I had a little problem but slowed the taper. I got this schedule from a friend and off the web from someone who was on it for 6 yrs.
Thru workout treatments the pain has subsuided. I have been tapering off at the rate of 5mg per week. When I hit 5 mg I had a little problem but slowed the taper. I got this schedule from a friend and off the web from someone who was on it for 6 yrs.
Good news (I think) for those out there that are looking for doctors to prescribe bup. I went to a website that has a doctor locator for your state and found 20 physicians that supposedly prescribe it and one of them is right in my city!
Pillhell- There are a few right in West Palm Beach!
Anyone interested in more info you can email me.
Sharon
Pillhell- There are a few right in West Palm Beach!
Anyone interested in more info you can email me.
Sharon
HI ALL,
I WANTED TO POST A NEW QUESTION,BUT OF COURSE ITS FULL FOR THE DAY.I KNOW I SHOULDN'T POST A QUESTION HERE BUT DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR STUPIDITY.SO HERE GOES.AS I'VE SAID BEFORE IM TAKING 20MG. OF MRTHADONE A DAY.I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TAPER.HERE IS MY PROBLEM:IM TAKING METHADONE IN WAFER FORM,NOT LIQUID.A FAMILY MEMBER GIVES THEM TO ME.SO I CANT SWITCH TO THE LIQUID FORM.HOW DO I TAPER DOWN PAST 10 MG.SINCE THE WAFERS I TAKE ARE 40 MG.10MG. QUATERS.ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE A GREAT HELP.ALSO SOMEONE IN THE FORUM(SORRY I FORGOT THE NAME)GAVE ME A WEB SITE FOR DR.RODRIGUEZ WHO PRACTICES IN BOCA FLORIDA.AND HE WOULD PROBABLY WORK WITH ME WITH THE CHARGE ON HELPING ME DETOX WITH MEDS.ANYWAY HIS NAME WAS NOT AN EMAIL MEMBER.CAN I HAVE HIS FIRST NAME?THERE ARE ALOT OF RODRIGUEZ DOCS. IN BOCA.THANKS.I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE)WHO REACHED OUT TO ME(BY EMAIL)AND ARE TRING TO HELP.THIS FORUM IS A GODSENT!
IM NOT A RELIGOUS PERSON AT ALL,BUT MY HEART AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO ALL OF YOU FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT!KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!!!PILLHELL
I WANTED TO POST A NEW QUESTION,BUT OF COURSE ITS FULL FOR THE DAY.I KNOW I SHOULDN'T POST A QUESTION HERE BUT DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR STUPIDITY.SO HERE GOES.AS I'VE SAID BEFORE IM TAKING 20MG. OF MRTHADONE A DAY.I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TAPER.HERE IS MY PROBLEM:IM TAKING METHADONE IN WAFER FORM,NOT LIQUID.A FAMILY MEMBER GIVES THEM TO ME.SO I CANT SWITCH TO THE LIQUID FORM.HOW DO I TAPER DOWN PAST 10 MG.SINCE THE WAFERS I TAKE ARE 40 MG.10MG. QUATERS.ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE A GREAT HELP.ALSO SOMEONE IN THE FORUM(SORRY I FORGOT THE NAME)GAVE ME A WEB SITE FOR DR.RODRIGUEZ WHO PRACTICES IN BOCA FLORIDA.AND HE WOULD PROBABLY WORK WITH ME WITH THE CHARGE ON HELPING ME DETOX WITH MEDS.ANYWAY HIS NAME WAS NOT AN EMAIL MEMBER.CAN I HAVE HIS FIRST NAME?THERE ARE ALOT OF RODRIGUEZ DOCS. IN BOCA.THANKS.I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE)WHO REACHED OUT TO ME(BY EMAIL)AND ARE TRING TO HELP.THIS FORUM IS A GODSENT!
IM NOT A RELIGOUS PERSON AT ALL,BUT MY HEART AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO ALL OF YOU FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT!KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!!!PILLHELL
Thankyou for copying the Thomas recipe for me! & thank you for your support.
With warmth, Liquid.
With warmth, Liquid.
Here again, this thread shows that everyone is totally different.
I transferred directly onto Bup. I went from 50 mg. to 5mg. in 3 weeks, and went directly onto 8 mg. of bup, spaced out at 2 mg. 4 times per day without any sign of a withdrawal symptom.
And, I've successfully tapered to 4 mg. which was a very easy transition for me. Lowering one dose every week.
I do think it's an individual thing, since I know of other people who have done the same thing without any problems.
The only difference with me that I can see, is that I was only on meth for one month. That may be the factor that made the transition so easy for me?
I transferred directly onto Bup. I went from 50 mg. to 5mg. in 3 weeks, and went directly onto 8 mg. of bup, spaced out at 2 mg. 4 times per day without any sign of a withdrawal symptom.
And, I've successfully tapered to 4 mg. which was a very easy transition for me. Lowering one dose every week.
I do think it's an individual thing, since I know of other people who have done the same thing without any problems.
The only difference with me that I can see, is that I was only on meth for one month. That may be the factor that made the transition so easy for me?
Yes the Thomas recipe has helped soooo many here, including Bmac and Meth(less)Mike.
I copied it for you:Thomas Detox Recipe
PLEASE NOTE: I am not a doctor, simply a long-time Rx opiate junkie who has had many opportunities to develop a way to detox. This is a recipe for at-home self-detox from opiates based on my experience as well as that of many other addicts. It is not intended as professional medical advice. It is always wise to make sure none of the recipe ingredients or procedures conflict with medications you may be taking. Likewise, if you have any medical condition, disease, allergy or any other health issue, consult your doctor before using the recipe. Thanks, Thomas
This recipe is designed for cold turkey opiate detox. It assumes that you can get about 5 to 7 days away from your job or household responsibilities during which you can sleep, veg and act as miserable as you feel. Opiate WD mimics the symptoms of the common flu, so, if you need a smokescreen, hide behind a bad case of the flu.
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
PLEASE NOTE: If you have any medical complications, first check with your doctor before detoxing to verify that this regimen is safe for you.
......Good luck LG.
ps.... MethMike you continue to inspire
Percs No More
I copied it for you:Thomas Detox Recipe
PLEASE NOTE: I am not a doctor, simply a long-time Rx opiate junkie who has had many opportunities to develop a way to detox. This is a recipe for at-home self-detox from opiates based on my experience as well as that of many other addicts. It is not intended as professional medical advice. It is always wise to make sure none of the recipe ingredients or procedures conflict with medications you may be taking. Likewise, if you have any medical condition, disease, allergy or any other health issue, consult your doctor before using the recipe. Thanks, Thomas
This recipe is designed for cold turkey opiate detox. It assumes that you can get about 5 to 7 days away from your job or household responsibilities during which you can sleep, veg and act as miserable as you feel. Opiate WD mimics the symptoms of the common flu, so, if you need a smokescreen, hide behind a bad case of the flu.
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
PLEASE NOTE: If you have any medical complications, first check with your doctor before detoxing to verify that this regimen is safe for you.
......Good luck LG.
ps.... MethMike you continue to inspire
Percs No More
Hey girl....
You know what they say "opinions are like @ssholes..." Well, you get the point. You need to follow YOUR heart. As far as all the advice - eat the hay and throw out the stubble.
I hear all this advice about trading one drug/addiction for another coming from people who are arleady well off the Meth (60 days or more) It's easy to give that advice when your'e already through it and looking back instead of looking forward. I'm not knocking those folks! I commend them on their strength of will. But they are NOT YOU!!! If you are really sure in your heart that you want to use Bup to do away with your addicvtion to all substances then do it!!! That isn't trading one adiction for another - that's temporarily using one drug to get off of all addicting drugs! Bottom line - it's up to you to decide.
You know what they say "opinions are like @ssholes..." Well, you get the point. You need to follow YOUR heart. As far as all the advice - eat the hay and throw out the stubble.
I hear all this advice about trading one drug/addiction for another coming from people who are arleady well off the Meth (60 days or more) It's easy to give that advice when your'e already through it and looking back instead of looking forward. I'm not knocking those folks! I commend them on their strength of will. But they are NOT YOU!!! If you are really sure in your heart that you want to use Bup to do away with your addicvtion to all substances then do it!!! That isn't trading one adiction for another - that's temporarily using one drug to get off of all addicting drugs! Bottom line - it's up to you to decide.
Thankyou - very much!
It really helps me to read your wonderful success in kicking this drug. You are inspirational! :-)
I was also tagged a good & stable patient (7 years). I was on 75mg for the 1st year - but I then fell pregnant, I slowly dropped to 15 mg (during the pregnancy) & my highest dose since then has been 30mg - which was in the last half of last year as I returned to work & found (or thought I found) that I "needed" that extra boost to work. I have got as low as 4mg - with the hope to come off - but my partner (who is also on MMT) came-off 1st & I needed to stay-on to look after the children. He was off the Meth for 8 months - but then he went back on (long story) :-( .
So, in 40 days you went from 40mg to 0mg? - wow!.
Based on your 1st 10 days on zero being the hardest - do you think that is what it took for the Methadone to leave your system?? (in the most part).
Anyhow thankyou for answering all my questions - I really, really appreciate it.
Oh!? - you found the Thomas recipe helpful? It boosted your energy levels? I am so worried about having to go back to work at the end of this month & hvaing NO energy (my job is very energetic).
Take care & thank YOU again.
It really helps me to read your wonderful success in kicking this drug. You are inspirational! :-)
I was also tagged a good & stable patient (7 years). I was on 75mg for the 1st year - but I then fell pregnant, I slowly dropped to 15 mg (during the pregnancy) & my highest dose since then has been 30mg - which was in the last half of last year as I returned to work & found (or thought I found) that I "needed" that extra boost to work. I have got as low as 4mg - with the hope to come off - but my partner (who is also on MMT) came-off 1st & I needed to stay-on to look after the children. He was off the Meth for 8 months - but then he went back on (long story) :-( .
So, in 40 days you went from 40mg to 0mg? - wow!.
Based on your 1st 10 days on zero being the hardest - do you think that is what it took for the Methadone to leave your system?? (in the most part).
Anyhow thankyou for answering all my questions - I really, really appreciate it.
Oh!? - you found the Thomas recipe helpful? It boosted your energy levels? I am so worried about having to go back to work at the end of this month & hvaing NO energy (my job is very energetic).
Take care & thank YOU again.
Hey bud!
Thanks for the kind words. How's your knees doing today? Are you getting back up on your feet?
I hear Oregon is putting on the annual "Run for the Greenage" marathon in April. Wanna train with me?
Rock on brother,
Mike
Thanks for the kind words. How's your knees doing today? Are you getting back up on your feet?
I hear Oregon is putting on the annual "Run for the Greenage" marathon in April. Wanna train with me?
Rock on brother,
Mike
Liquidgal,
I was on Methadone for well over 10 years. They started me at 40mg but it was way too much and "zombified" me. So, I cut it back to only 15. Then (as usual) the dose was not enough to hold me and I gradually went up to a max of 55 per day. For me, at this level, I began to notice that I didn't really care about much at all and my attitude (caring and attentive to others needs) was replaced with not caring and just going through the motions day to day. So, I told the clinic to drop me down 5mg a day to 40mg. I stayed at 40mg for 90% of all those years. Since they tagged me as a "good, stable patient", I only had to go in to the clinic once a month to pick up my "take homes". In August of this past year, I went in to see the councelor and doctor in the clinic and told them that I wanted off this stuff and wanted to slowly taper to zero. Both disagreed with me saying that I had a "Level Quality of Life" and that I should resign myself to being on this "medicine" for the rest of my life. That visit took the wind out of my sails until October 1st, 2002. That is when I went into inpatient rehab which took 40 days. Once in there, they tapered me 5mg a day down to 20mg. Then 1mg a day to zero. At 20mg, they slapped an Ativan patch on me that was replaced every day for 14 days. All the patients reverently referred to this as the "Ativan Shuffle". :) And that's what it was. The only hardship I had during this time was keeping my eyes open in the meetings. Once off the patch, I felt a little rough, but not bad at all. Even when I went down to 5mg, I tried to keep a positive attitude and rise above the situation. I was successful in doing so all the way to zero. Then, it hit. No sleep, fist clenching in the middle of the night, stretches for no apparent reason,et. al. At this point, I was out of inpatient rehab and back home. The doc gave me Klonopin and Ambien 10mg for sleep at night along with Clonidine to help keep my blood pressure in check. For about a week, it was pure hell. Then, I found the Thomas Recipe and this site chocked full of great people that walked the same road I was on to success. (Thank you bmac and percsnomas!)
So, here I am. Day 63, no cravings and feeling pretty darn good. Looking back, the only thing I would have done different would be to find my brother and sister addicts FIRST, then make it happen. There is a strength in knowing that the addiction has lied to you all this time. You are NOT weird, you are not an outcast, you are not destined to live this life forever and you are NEVER alone in your fight.
Embrace change. It is change that makes us who we are.
All the best,
Mike
I was on Methadone for well over 10 years. They started me at 40mg but it was way too much and "zombified" me. So, I cut it back to only 15. Then (as usual) the dose was not enough to hold me and I gradually went up to a max of 55 per day. For me, at this level, I began to notice that I didn't really care about much at all and my attitude (caring and attentive to others needs) was replaced with not caring and just going through the motions day to day. So, I told the clinic to drop me down 5mg a day to 40mg. I stayed at 40mg for 90% of all those years. Since they tagged me as a "good, stable patient", I only had to go in to the clinic once a month to pick up my "take homes". In August of this past year, I went in to see the councelor and doctor in the clinic and told them that I wanted off this stuff and wanted to slowly taper to zero. Both disagreed with me saying that I had a "Level Quality of Life" and that I should resign myself to being on this "medicine" for the rest of my life. That visit took the wind out of my sails until October 1st, 2002. That is when I went into inpatient rehab which took 40 days. Once in there, they tapered me 5mg a day down to 20mg. Then 1mg a day to zero. At 20mg, they slapped an Ativan patch on me that was replaced every day for 14 days. All the patients reverently referred to this as the "Ativan Shuffle". :) And that's what it was. The only hardship I had during this time was keeping my eyes open in the meetings. Once off the patch, I felt a little rough, but not bad at all. Even when I went down to 5mg, I tried to keep a positive attitude and rise above the situation. I was successful in doing so all the way to zero. Then, it hit. No sleep, fist clenching in the middle of the night, stretches for no apparent reason,et. al. At this point, I was out of inpatient rehab and back home. The doc gave me Klonopin and Ambien 10mg for sleep at night along with Clonidine to help keep my blood pressure in check. For about a week, it was pure hell. Then, I found the Thomas Recipe and this site chocked full of great people that walked the same road I was on to success. (Thank you bmac and percsnomas!)
So, here I am. Day 63, no cravings and feeling pretty darn good. Looking back, the only thing I would have done different would be to find my brother and sister addicts FIRST, then make it happen. There is a strength in knowing that the addiction has lied to you all this time. You are NOT weird, you are not an outcast, you are not destined to live this life forever and you are NEVER alone in your fight.
Embrace change. It is change that makes us who we are.
All the best,
Mike
Hi to all and Happy New Year Year!
Just needed to write to hopefully get help for my sister in law. Any corespondence will be appreciated.
To start my story, my sister-in-law has been using oxycontin for a couple years now, not sure of the actual duration or how much she was really using. She has a decent job, she works for the state childcare system and her husband is retired military who has a job at the air force base. They have 2 teen to adult kids. Her mother also lives with them.
Everyone basically knew but thought that "she has her own life and has it under control.
Well, the week of Thanksgiving, we got a call that she Overdosed on what they say was Oxycontin and Methadone. She basically was barely alive. Was in the hospital for a couple days and sent home. A week later she went out for her birthday one night, and the next morning she acted totally different. Her brother (my husband) and I went over there Christmas day and she seems like a person who is totally lost (mentally). Is this any kind of indication of withdrawal? Can it be that mentally decapitating? Her mom and husband and kids(that she lives with) are in a state of denial and in my opinion, are telling the true stories to the doctors with i think is hampering her recovery. Im sorry to go on and on, just wish i knew how to help my husbands sister.
Take Care and good luck,
Marion
Just needed to write to hopefully get help for my sister in law. Any corespondence will be appreciated.
To start my story, my sister-in-law has been using oxycontin for a couple years now, not sure of the actual duration or how much she was really using. She has a decent job, she works for the state childcare system and her husband is retired military who has a job at the air force base. They have 2 teen to adult kids. Her mother also lives with them.
Everyone basically knew but thought that "she has her own life and has it under control.
Well, the week of Thanksgiving, we got a call that she Overdosed on what they say was Oxycontin and Methadone. She basically was barely alive. Was in the hospital for a couple days and sent home. A week later she went out for her birthday one night, and the next morning she acted totally different. Her brother (my husband) and I went over there Christmas day and she seems like a person who is totally lost (mentally). Is this any kind of indication of withdrawal? Can it be that mentally decapitating? Her mom and husband and kids(that she lives with) are in a state of denial and in my opinion, are telling the true stories to the doctors with i think is hampering her recovery. Im sorry to go on and on, just wish i knew how to help my husbands sister.
Take Care and good luck,
Marion
Hi all :-)
I have been in a miniature hell for the last few days - the transfer to the BUP was rough for me. I am okay today, some sleep last night has made all the difference.
Sharon - I got to 4mg meth once. There is definitely some wisdom in MethMan's advice.
To transfer over to BUP you'll need to be in early w/d. Which for you on your dose will probably be easier to reach than me - but the theory is you'll be suffering by the time the transfer takes place - & from 6 mg you are SO close.
I tranfered from 30 mg. I had my last meth dose 31st & my 1st BUP dose 2nd. The 48hours (esp. the latter 24 hours) wasn't pretty. In fact TBH I was very suprised by how rough I felt so quickly. My doc was so pleased to see my hanging out - I sure wasn't grinning from ear to ear. My 1st BUP dose was 2mg (at 10am). It did SweetFA. My doc most considerately said to come back at 2.30pm for a 2nd dose if I still felt rough - his parting words to me were - "I expect I'll need to see you later".
I went back. The 2nd dose was 4mg & I got some relief. But still NO sleep that night. I was now 'running' on 2 days of zero sleep & that was really messing with me.
I was/am LUCKY that my doc has been so attentive in this transistional period. A friend of mine HAD to increase by 2 mg increments (from 2mg to 8mg) over 4 days irregardless as to how bad he felt (& interestingly enough he coped with this AOK - but I would've been suffering - which does illustrate how different we all are).
So I went to 8 mg on my 2nd dosing day (yesterday) - which is my max. dose (my choice). I got some mild sleepers from my doc who could see how sleep-deprived & aboslutely awful I felt & as I said above finially got some semebelance of sleep last night.
I am going to stay on 8mg until I feel a bit stronger.
My BIG question is now, is how long do I wait to allow some of the meth to get out of my system?
METHMAN - could you *please* tell me what dose you came-off?
It has been really GREAT ro me to read of your success. WAY TO GO!
I have been in a miniature hell for the last few days - the transfer to the BUP was rough for me. I am okay today, some sleep last night has made all the difference.
Sharon - I got to 4mg meth once. There is definitely some wisdom in MethMan's advice.
To transfer over to BUP you'll need to be in early w/d. Which for you on your dose will probably be easier to reach than me - but the theory is you'll be suffering by the time the transfer takes place - & from 6 mg you are SO close.
I tranfered from 30 mg. I had my last meth dose 31st & my 1st BUP dose 2nd. The 48hours (esp. the latter 24 hours) wasn't pretty. In fact TBH I was very suprised by how rough I felt so quickly. My doc was so pleased to see my hanging out - I sure wasn't grinning from ear to ear. My 1st BUP dose was 2mg (at 10am). It did SweetFA. My doc most considerately said to come back at 2.30pm for a 2nd dose if I still felt rough - his parting words to me were - "I expect I'll need to see you later".
I went back. The 2nd dose was 4mg & I got some relief. But still NO sleep that night. I was now 'running' on 2 days of zero sleep & that was really messing with me.
I was/am LUCKY that my doc has been so attentive in this transistional period. A friend of mine HAD to increase by 2 mg increments (from 2mg to 8mg) over 4 days irregardless as to how bad he felt (& interestingly enough he coped with this AOK - but I would've been suffering - which does illustrate how different we all are).
So I went to 8 mg on my 2nd dosing day (yesterday) - which is my max. dose (my choice). I got some mild sleepers from my doc who could see how sleep-deprived & aboslutely awful I felt & as I said above finially got some semebelance of sleep last night.
I am going to stay on 8mg until I feel a bit stronger.
My BIG question is now, is how long do I wait to allow some of the meth to get out of my system?
METHMAN - could you *please* tell me what dose you came-off?
It has been really GREAT ro me to read of your success. WAY TO GO!
My email address is ***@**** You can email me anytime you want. I work on a computer all day at work so I check my emails often. Right now I am holding at 6mg. I was suppose to go down to 5mg yesterday but I asked them to hold me for a few weeks until I can find more info on bup. I am hoping that this med will help me get through the remainder of the detox.
Sharon
Sharon
Thanks for posting back to me so quickly.I'd really like to hear how you've gotten as far as you did detoxing off the methadone.But I didn't see your email address posted.Please email me at ***@****,and good luck with the good fight!
pillhell
pillhell
...Take another little piece of my heart, baaaaby!!! Love Janis - burnt out too soon. Don't worry about me, tee - as long as I don't have the JD in the house, I seldom think about it. I HAVE to tell you, I was feeling a little down the other day, and when I read your post about the "tight-butted walk down the hall" I laughed till I almost cried. I thought "I can't believe he said that"...but hey, we're anoymonous, right? smile. You're a hoot! Laughter is so soothing to the soul (even if it's at YOUR expense!)...and better you than me, brother...(I've had simuliar experiences, but I'm NOT sharing!)..smile. Hope you're back on the greens soon! Love ya, Lisabet
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