sub withdrawals

I've been doin subs for bout a year now & finally decided that i've had ENOUGH! I was takin 24mg a day for the first 3 months or so. Then was basically takin 8mg a day but have ALWAYS been skippin days in between. Got down @ 1 point to 2mg every 3 days or so.(thats about when i started feelin bad) but everytime i hung with my 3 year old daughter i would load up(24 to 32mg) just so i could have lots of energy to keep up with her. At least thats how i would justify it.  Well on the 2nd of November i ate 16mg. Then made it to the 11 before i broke down and ate 16mg more. then on the 16th AGAIN i broke down and ate 2mg. today is the 28th & i still feel horrid. Anyone out there know when the worst should be done. All i keep thinkin is that in almost a month i've only takin sub 3 times. Still have 2 subs here but dont want to take them. Just wondering what i am looking at.  THANKS

[wannabefree330]

Well the way you are taking them is wild?  YOu know that the half life of sub is around 37 hours right?  Your dosing is so sporadic I can't even calculate the amount you may have in your body right now?  If I read correctly you have 2, 8mg subs left?  Take those and break them into crumbs.  Take a crumb every day or every other day for the next 4 days then begin to put an additional day in the process.  So you'd take a crumb every 3 days then a crumb every 4 days, then every 5 days and so on.  It may help and it may not?  You may just be better off toughing it out and flushing the last two subs?

On the lower right corner of this page are the health pages.  Read up on other peoples experiences w/sub there. And keep checking back as manypeople arent' on now due to the holiday.

[ethereal1]

seriously, if you want the energy/high, get some Oxy and do it right! ; )

taper, taper, taper. take only what you need to feel well. not for 'energy'. have a PowerBar or something.

so take a tiny amount of sub, like 1mg and see how you feel in an hour. if you need a little more, have a little more, see how you feel. when you reach the point you feel well, that's going to be your dose to taper down from. IMHO people WAY over do it on the Subs. Subs are (depending on your source) ~40x stronger than morphine. so 1mg sub = ~40mg morphine (although without the morphine 'glow'). An 8mg Sub is equivalent to 320mg morphine! And some people are taking 32mg's a day?! i'm not naive, some people may really need 32mg's/day, but most don't.

and i agree to an extent with wannabefree330 above, but if you can go 3 or 4 days w/o dosing, then just jump off. no sense in prolonging the agony, IMHO.

be well,
e1

[cattalina]

Wow - I agree with wild & sporadic for sure... I find it crazy that you would make it almost a week without a sub then take 16MGS at once?? Just wow! Ok at this point you have made it 12 days without any sub?? IMO you should just flush the 2 you have left. Since you've taken them in no particular schedule all month I'd say that most likely - your wds are almost over since you really don't have a build-up of sub in your system... Generally people say the first 2 weeks are bad then it starts to get slightly better day by day - but that's from people that do some kind of scheduled taper. I dunno but I'd hope that whatever sickness your feeling was at the worst it will get last week sometime and has gotten better.  Hopefully you come back and post again!!

[ochooked]

Amen to Cattalina's comment --- probably the best thing is to flush and just hang on -- it will be rough for awhile but you will not die and soon you will be FREE of everything ---  It will take some guts but you can do it - -- many on here have and none of us thought of our selves as brave - only very weak -- but we made it and so can you.   You can do this for your daughter but most of all for YOU.  Please keep posting - and sharing -- read the other post and comment -- it helps -- All the best.

[stevieink]

2day was brutal!!!! prob the worst day yet.(day 13) didnt break tho:) cant understand y yesterday was easier then 2day. o'well...u make ur bed u have 2 lay n it i suppose. figured out beer REALLY helps me relax...for a couple hours atleast. music seems 2 b the best mental motivation 4 me. & being on the net! WOW...without that this would b impossible. nothing 2 keep the mind occupied.. actually makes me think im gonna b OK! if i couldn't read all this stuff ya'll write getting clean would b just a distant dream!(been readin since i jumped) just wanted 2 say thanks 2 every1 for the luv! makes me wanna do this just that much more. THANKS AGAIN....i'l b back.......................

[worried878]

write out a taper for the ones u have left..sporadicly using like u r is probably screwing up ur brain...bombarding it then taking it away.....get off using what u have left in a sytemized manner....no using for a high involved...just a taper to say adios!