suboxone withdrawals

[krycket]

hello.. i am on day 5 after 14 weeks of suboxone weened 4mg 1 day to 2 mg am 1 pm to 1mg 2days then off. i started having real bad w/d after day 2. i ended up in er and was lectured that anything that they could give me would be addicting . the only thing i was addicted to was lorcets no other meds. i got script for ambien but it only gave me 3 hrs sleep. when does this end? i wasnt on it for a long time why am i having hell now..i dont even care if i die. i cant take this feeling
krycket

[krycket]

well i made it to day 13 and still hurt so bad i feel like 500 lbs is sitting on shoulders im real stiff and alot of lower back pain. the sweats pretty much stopped but i still can barley get out of bed. I do make myself though but i end up back on the heating pad.  the dr. gave me ambien to take to sleep but i read after 7 days you can be come dependent that is all i need!  i called the local detox center and they use valium for 14 days along with vitamins gatorade exercise therapy etc.. i would love a valium just to relax all of this tension. im 39 and feel 100! it seems like this will never end.. i got to where i was at my wits end with the pain and spasms i just bawled ,my husband rubbed my back which helped temp. i still have a sore throat and stopped up nose is this normal still? thank you very much for your advice it has really helped. i just hate knowing if i took pain meds i will feel better and could get out of bed but 13 days is too long to turn back now. 1 did take a 1/4th of soma a couple of days ago when i was at the end of my rope and it helped for about 2 hrs ..long enough for me to regroup and decide i can do this. i also have been taken naproxen once a day for stiffness i think that is aleve?  but it really doesnt help much
thank you
krycket

[refusingbondage]

I really do relate and feel so bad for what you are going through.  It is so difficult when you have obligations and responsibilities.. but your children will live through this, as will you.  Let the laudry pile up, let them eat cereal and tv dinners.  It sounds cold, but they will be ok.  Right now you are doing the most important thing you can do to be a good wife and mother and that is getting yourself clean.  DO NOT take the loracet.  I mean honestly 7 days is SUCH a huge accomplishment.  Do not take any steps back.. even a tiny one.  Just move forward and wait it out. Remember - you will not die.  A BIG part of this is mental.  I am not downplaying the physical - believe me - I know cause I've been there (over 2 1/2 years on suboxone - I took my last Sept 2008).  But a lot is mental.  You have to keep in mind that as much as you feel like your dying - your  not.. Look at the past 7 days.. you made it through.  You WILL feel better.. and I mean 100% better.  Just keep that at the front of your mind at all times.  FORCE yourself UP and to do things.. I know it sounds crazy but my fiancee forced me off the couch and outside for at least a half hour walk after the 5th day. I hated him, but it helped a lot with the anxiety.  Number one rule - DONT PANIC. You will be ok. You can beat this.  You ARE beating it right now.  You have to take yourself out of the panic zone, stay away from the "I cants" and realize that no matter what your mind is telling you, you are doing it. You are living and you can make it past the worst of this.  You are likely right on the cusp of starting to feel improvement.  Dont give in now.  

[krycket]

ive taken so many hot baths this is so hard. i woke up crying and havent stopped. i have an 8yr old special needs child that keeps asking me whats wrong why are you still in bed when he is use to me playing hide and seek and chase everyday.my other 2 children are teenagers and they think i have the flu. but actually i feel like i am dieing. im not strong enough to go thru this alone. i wish i could go to a rehab center or something but thats out of the question. 7 days is forever to me i havent worked i cant get comfortable i have laundry stacked up living off tv dinners cause im too weak to go to the store and all of my friends tell me just to break a loracet in half and take that to ease the pain but i havent. my muscles are hurting so much. i dont know how i can live thru this. mu husband leaves at 6 am and stays away from home til around 9 pm when he knows i take an ambien to get 3 hours sleep then have to take another to make it to 7. he is trying to understand but he doesnt even take tylenol when he is hurt. what can i do im wasting away. the body aches and anxiety are my only two symptoms but that are magnified by a million
help
krycket

[whitie]

keep fighting it, you are getting close.  I went through the same thing, shaking off  a 800 pound gorilla on my back ,called METHADONE !!

you can do it, and if you go back on the sub(opioid,yes its just a replacement opioid like methadone) and stay on it, its just going to come back and haunt you worse later.

you done the majority of the work,so why not finish the job? time to fight harder

[refusingbondage]

What are you on day 7 now?  Just hang in there. I know all too well the pain of suboxone withdrawal.. I have been exactly where you are and vividly remember wanting to just literally die.  After a week its truly exasperating to still feel so sick.  There is no sugar coating it. You just have to wait it out.  I can promise you that it will not last forever.. it probably wont get any worse than it is right now (thats good news!) and you should start feeling slight improvement soon - within a few days.  The only thing I found helpful was hot showers.. take as many as you can stand for as long as the hot water lasts (or baths).  Do NOT be afraid to spend hours in the tub, or shower under the hot water.  (Jacuzzi would be best if you had one).  I spent the better part of 2 weeks on the floor in my shower.  It was the only place I felt a little less like dying.  Please hang in there.  The payoff is WELL WORTH it, but its a difficult one to get to.  7 days in there is really no sense in turning back.  You are very close.  Good luck.

[krycket]

ok here is how it went. went to sub dr. in april got a script i was to take 8mg twice a day the dr. said for 6 months or so. well as i was in the waiting room they had so many people that had been on it for a long long time. so i took 1 when i got home since the w/d from the lor was so bad. took the symptoms away real quick and i was able to go back to work that day. well i go a real bad headache in about 2 hours so i waited 2 days then tried 1/2 when i started feeling the w/d comming on so i decided to just take a fourth in the am and 1/8 in the pm until i was out which lasted me all this time. when icalled the dr. back they were not happy that i didnt go back every month give them the 150 for the visit and the 450 for the meds. so they are conviently booked til thursday after this one which is the only days he sees sub patients. so no i didnt abuse them i was trying to go off on 1 script. it is day 7 and i still am in awful shape.i am hurting so bad and my joints are so stiff and well i havent stopped crying in hours . i tried to find a therapist that would see me today and no luck.. i am at the end of my rope i cant stand feeling like this for 1 more minute i have screamed went for a walk listen to music watch tv tried to keep my mind off of this but it isnt working.the ambien isnt working at nite anymore and neither is ibuprofen tylenol or naoproxen.i am just at the point of going to find a lorcet just to get pain relief. ive prayed cussed bargained im left alone in the dark
krycket

[jossysmom]

Hopefully this won't come across as too forward but why did your doctor leave you without the sub until the 30th? I know you said you tapered but did you use your supply before it was time to go back? If you abused it, that could potentially make your withdrawls worse....

[minim]

keep pulling through!!! I have been there- wasn't even on them for that long but it took at least 7 days for me to be good... so keep going you are almost there! :)

[GA Guy]

For some, the withdrawals are prolonged...others have a shorter time. I would stay away from all benzos and alcohol. You're working yourself towards a cross addiction situation. If it gets to the point that you can't stand it any more...call your Sub doctor and demand that he see you.

[krycket]

thank you for commenting.. im at my witts end. its day 5 and well i have no choice to wait it out. my suboxone dr wont see me til the 30th and well if i could even imagin waiting till then then whats the point on getting back on them..i just would love a ray of hope. one site says well it should be getting better others say i will be sick for months...if i only have known.i mean the sub was more expensive than my DOC by far.i went on it to get help and was told that just 4-5 months i would be off etc but we never talked about weaning i just started doing it myself. will i be ok or will i go insane? is it ok to take a piece of xanax or valium if i can get my hands on it or am i in for such a long w/d period that i will feel this way for weeks to come.. it would be so easy to jump back onto painpills but im trying to be good but its so hard to do when no one can give you hope or a time frame that you may feel better.if i drank a mixed drink would that hurt me? i havent touched alcohol in yrs and have never drank over 1 drink at a time im 100lbs soakin wet so a little alcohol goes long ways.but i dont want to hurt any progress.. god im so confused and hurting like hell.the pain and anxiety is getting the best of my life..any advice is appreciated so much more than anyone will ever know
krycket

[GA Guy]

You did a very fast taper. Plus, Sub withdrawals can take 2-5 days to really kick in. You have two choices...1) wait it out (Sub withdrawals can last any amount of time depending on the person)..or 2) go back on Sub and taper more slowly. If the withdrawals are bearable, and you can function, then I'd wait it out.

[krycket]

i have tried tylenol ,ibuprofen..i talked to 2 pharmacist and they both tell me that i should be better by now..i dont want to go back on the subs after being off for 5 days of hell just to do this over again. thank god i have an understanding husband but i have almost been to the point of taking anything. i have soma from a few months agom my dr. gave me but i hated the way they made me feel and i wasnt sure if they were safe to take now since i am not sure if any sub is in my system etc... so in your opinion do i have another week or two or 3 or what..just a guess.. i wish this was all im losing the will to do this.
thank you so much
krycket

[IBKleen]

Hi & Welcome,

You have to give it a bit more time. It will start getting better. It may not have seemed long to you, but 14 weeks can be a long time with Suboxone and the withdrawal is difficult. Everyone is different.

What else have you tried to ease the discomfort such as otc medications or anything?