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suboxone?

I have a few questions about Suboxone. I'm on my 100th attemmpt to get og oc's. Lately my husband and I have been snorting 2-3 80mg's a day. This past week we've cut back to 1/2 an 80 or a whole 80 split, ie half in the morn and half at night. I've also started a vit. regimen a few day's ago consisting of valerian, vit.c,magnesium,and calcium. I'll also take xanax at night gor sleep and anxiety. For whatever reason this time i'm having the hardest time quitting. It's taking a toll in all aspects of my life. I consulted my doc but they were not so understanding because I was not rx'd the oxy's. So a close friend of mine gave me 3 8mg suboxone's. Oh, and I also tried Kratom, after reading some posts about it a few days ago. So my questions are can you use the kratom with the suboxone and can I still take the vitamins with the suboxone. I know i can't use the xanax with the suboxone but I am so desperate. I think my marriage is going down the tubes because of this. My husband has this horrible addicton too but he can't handle worrying about the both of us. I just stopped my paxil a few weeks bqack because it was having adverse effects on me.I dont want to try another anti-depressent untill i stop the oc's. i fee like there's no way out and i'm really scared. I have suicidal thoughts because my anxiety and depression is so bad. I WOULD NEVER GO THUROGH WITH IT because i love my children way too much, I am just at wits end here. I've done 1/4 of the suboxone but it did nothing, 1/2 worked but im scared to take a whole. My friend who gets them from me said that a whole made him feel really sick, but he does not have as big of an addiction as i do.....please...any advice would help...
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this post is so old, I wonder how everyone is doing. I'm on Day 2 of clean time, after blowing at minimum 200mg of oxy up my nose every day for years. I've gotten clean before, relapsed, but every time I go back, the spiral gets deeper and deeper. I'm hoping this time is the last time. I hope all are well, I appreciated reading all your words.
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I will email you.
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Same song and dance. I was injured, saw pain doc, put on oxy, increased doses for years, dropped by doc then the wicked withdrawals set in..I hope this helps someone here. My E-mail is ***@**** feel free to ask me anything. I went to rehab because I ran the gauntlet of docs and could no longer get oxy or hydro. I was using about 160mg/day. I was put on subutex and then switched to suboxone starting with 8mg/day. This was 19 months ago. I am now down to 1 and sometimes 2mg per day. I have no cravings and lead a fairly normal life. The suboxone is wonderful but is also a devil in disguise, I'll explain that in a minute. I really got to the point that the doc shopping was simply my reason for living. Thank God I no longer worry about that ****. You know where I am coming from I am sure. Anyway I have remained clean for this entire time with absolutely no cravings. You must want to end the viscious cycle also for anything to work for you. The problem is Suboxone withdrawal is as bad as the withdrawal from the narcs. Even at 2mg a day. The good side is that if you find a good doc and are honest, completely honest with them, for this is your last chance, he or she will stand by you and will not let you withdrawal. Withdrawals, to me are the worst thing imaginable and cannot be understood by anyone, and I mean anyone who has not been through them, period!! I am a very tough man but cant handle withdrawals. I have alot of info on other things I tried and dont work. I will help anyone who is having a problem or who has a significant other with one by telling you everything I know for sure about suboxone therapy and what our plan is to get off the suboxone. Just E-mail me and we will talk in the strictest of confidence. I still need support also, and have traveled a rough road. Please feel free to contact me and remember the hard part is admitting you have a problem and doing something about it. It is not a charactwer flaw!!! Im winning this race now and so can you!! Respectfully Me!!
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Hello, I woulove really like your help coming off the suboxone. I do not have any insurance at the moment and not sure when I'll be getting any. I just want more than anything right now, to come off of this stuff! I know I have a problem, but I only take enough to keep me from getting sick. This stuff has ruined me! Your email isn't showing up for some reason, but I will wait for your reply, and hopefully you can help me. I have know one to talk to about this and I just want to be DONE! Thank you!
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I taperd off with the help of my md. I wasnt on for that long, a few months or so. Plus I knew i could get my hands on suboxone's and I did not want to mix the two. funny how i'm worried about that but have no fear of blowing 2-3 80mg's of oxy up my nose.....
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one thing that sucks is that i Can not go to my family with this. we had a tragic death in the family last year and I dont want to put anymore **** on their plates ya know? we were living with my in-law's ( which i think is why our addiction got so bad) but we just got our own place. So we can w/d with out having to explain why we look and feel like ****, except to our 6 year old. but we know that it's either the pills or the house. We CANT have both. I guess im just nervous to take a whole suboxone. my friends abuse every pill possible and habe told me horror stories about taking a whole 8mg sub. they said all i need is 1/4 in the am and 1/4 in the pm......we have to buy them from the persom we get the oc's from(ironic huh?) I just feel sooo lost and confused right now.
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How did you stop the Paxil?  Did the doctor help you or did you do it on your own?  I also take Paxil for PMDD, and it is very important that you get off of it the proper way.  Thoughts of suicide and feeling like hell are very common, and you should be monitored during your taper and withdrawal from it.
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FIrst off, this the best place to start.  I watched posts for about a week before I wrote anything.  When I finally did, I believe I had hit the bottom.  I tried to forge a script and take it in.  Long story short, it was cancelled but no one knew it wasn't kosher.  I knew that I had dodged a  BIGASS bullet.  SO, thats when I decided to quit.  Hubby wasn't too hip on the idea at first but today, yesterday and monday he has thanked me about a million times.  We had no idea how blobby we were untill we were off.  We also have children and suicidal thoughts were there for me as well.  We had pawned things, spent every dime, hubby lost his job (a very good one) moved home, and lost it....  I am so thrilled to say that we are on our way back to the top.  Suboxone is a great tool for recovery (thanks all who gave me the quote).  If used with other things; counseling, meetings, etc.. I think it can be very effective.  We are planning a pretty quick taper so as to not trade addictions.  
Please let me know if you have any questions.  I can't believe how alike we are and I am sooooo sorry for you.  I know exactly where you are.
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good Lord, child - you sound just like me.  Its very scary.  I also have 2 beautiful children and would have probably still done just about anything to get another pill when in w/d.  I am a weanie and couldn't handle it at all.  I tell ya - we waited about 20 hours in b/t the oxy and sub.  THe last 10 were not fun as Im sure you can imagine.  I know what you mean about not really wanting to quit.  I kinda felt the same but this has just gone on for soooo long.  We really almost lost it all (even each other).  My hubby said the same things about me:  never smiled, always bitchin, no sex blah, blah, blah.  You know what.. I didn't care a bit at the time.  I though.. what a fool.  Im so much a better person.  Doesn't he know what it takes to care for these children and this house.  What a joke.  Honestly an hour after taking the full 8mg of sub.  we both felt like new people.  Almost a new high, but totally different, totally clear, and up up up...  Now I must tell you, that way up ... only lasted for that day but my hubby has felt GREAT since.  I had a little nausea, little depression, lot tired, but today (day 3) is sooo much better.  feel like normal self, just with more purpose.  You'll understand in due time.  I really want this for you b/c you'll never know how much better it can be until your on the other side.  I don't know if your husband is hard headed and skeptical - like mine.  But I kinda put it in a challanging way.  You know, if you can handle the w/d for one night to save this family then .....  Of course then it was me bitchin all Sunday night and would have taken one if I had it.  CLEAN OUT THE HOUSE BEFORE - if your anything like me.  they hit and im gone!!    I'll keep writing to you, need to go clean up lunch really quickly and get two maniacs in bed.  don't leave - really want to help!!  your going to make it, I swear.
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ok I'm a post of your behind so sorry if this takes a second to catch up.  BuT everytime you write, I just freak out.  We lived with my in laws as well.  We are currently looking for a place but need to save a little money first.  Also, I was just like you - not willing to come out to family.  UNTIL, I realized we could not do this alone. I promise, let me get the kids up and I'll write more.
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thanks, it feels good to know there's someone in the same boat as me. I myself have to wake up the baby and go pick up my girl from school then go to the grocrey store to attempt to make dinner. Let me tell ya, the grocery store can be the most hellish place on earth when you are stricken with anxiety. But here I go, I'll put on a "fake" smile and try my hardest. I'll talk to you shortly mis take....thanks again. I dont want to be nosy, but how old are your children, I have a 6 year old daughter, who thinks she's 27 and and 18 month old son, who is VERY active. Nothing like my daughter was at his age. I love it though. He's lucky he's the cutest boy ever because he can drive me insane.....
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does the sub. help with the anxiety and depression? that's the worst part for me. I'm at a point where I dont even want to leave the house if i dont have an oc? Is it a smart idea to wean of the oxy's then wait a day then start the suboxone? Now that I know I have acess to the suboxone I want to wait and have one last hoorah? I was never like this before i found the oc's. I just smoked pot and have a few glasses of wine every now and again. To be honest I dont want to stop the oc's. I feel like i wont be able to function like i used to. They made me super mom and I dont want that to go away. My husband told me last nigth he cant renember the last time he saw me smile. Its sad because I've got two of the most beautifull children you've ever seen. They are my world. I feel like I'll never be "normal" again and it scares the Sh*t out of me. My family deserves the best and i dont think I can do it sober. if i lose my husband over this it will devestate the kids and myself for that matter.
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OMG, you and your husband sound exactly like me and mine.  We just went on Suboxone on Monday.
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hey Suboxone has a cieling limit, you can only get so "high" on it, and overdose is pretty much impossible because it had Narcon in it. (opiate blocker) and in order for the suboxone to work, your ganna need to wait about a good day into withdrawls from the oc, or it will not do anything, because beprenorphine is a longer lasting opiate in the receptors of the brain. a good way to get off the oc would be like 16 mg for 3 days, 1 8mg in the morning 1 at night then 1 8mg in the morning for 2 days then 4mg for 2 days then 2mg for 2 days then skip a day and do 2mg's between those... just dont **** yerself up on it like i did, im still snorting 80's just so im not in pain daily :(
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