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I am only 17 and I feel like Ive aged so much withdrawing from a 2 year vic addiction. Being a soccer player turned me on to them at 15, they gave me a pain tolerence and stamina of unmatched levels, I was a star when i was high on vic. Once the season ended I found I couldnt be happy without them, so I would pay up to 15 dollars a day for enough vic to make me happy. After my recent overdose in class which nearly got me busted I am going cold turkey with no help but the threads on this forum and my psych.
TAKE CARE
ERIKA
for what ever it's worth.....
all of us answer to 3 (actually 4 entitys)...
they are (and not necessarilly this order)
(1) god
(2) the tax man
(3) blind joe DEATH
(4) opium jones
so....you all like the alternative???
keep an angel on your shoulder (you will need it)
kio
i will email anyone interested the link.
as for the person quitting smoking and opiates, one thing at a time... that is just my opinion, but damn, i could not have quit both at once. but if it is working for you than hang in there. i figure it will be sometime before i give up both... opiate w/d is hard enough and in itself is so difficult, i just don't fight ALL of my battles at one time! but i wish you the very best!
amber
Its one thing to answer, but to really ANSWER is another thing, and topped off with some compassion and caring.
percs
Sorry Percs,that shoulda been hey ey!
BillyBob
Hows the w/d's; and the knee pain ??
you getting nervous yet.........couple more days
I am doing fine. I will tell you all about it when I call.
Friday morning at 9 am I will be off my brother! One day I'll turn northwest! Real far northwest!
However, I have heard stories about people in NA being ostracized for using pain meds, even for legitimate needs. These groups are generally obsessed with sobriety dates and use the threat of "revoking" someone's sobriety date as a means of discouraging pain med use.
I don't believe that this is an official policy of NA or AA, but like many systems implemented by lay persons, fanaticism and cultishness can seep in.
Thomas
regarding seeing someone you may know, when ever this situation
has arisin it has always been a positive.
i would say that mostly all the people in na who are clean
and living a productive life are honest people who are very happy to have thier lives back and they are happy to see others
on the same road, addicts are extreemist we go from being
hardcore addicts who lie and minipulate to get drugs to productive members of society, who change thier way s in a 90
degree swing twards the better.
i notice there are more then a few people here at the fourm
who are addicts and they go to aa, from my experence as addicts
we may find some problems in aa , some aa meetings do not tolerate addicts sharing about drugs and such.
i have found in my own life that it is not the substance that is the problem, but rather me.
for many years i was told , put down the drugs and all will be well, this has never been the case, when i put down the drugs
i am stuck with me and i still have the same problems that led me to use in the first place.
na the last resort for addicts, after we try everything in our power to get our act together on our own, after we have seen all the shrinks, been to detox, been to rehab,
when we find ourselves in a place where we don't want to live anymore. then na may appeal to us.
When we get caught up in minutia, you bring us back to the heart of the matter.
Thomas
Rational Recovery
A Million Little Pieces
I was able to find Rational Recovery at Barnes and Noble here in town, if you are ready to be truly honest and look a things quite differently than 12 steppers, than this is a book to read. He is also the author of The Small Book, an alternative to AA or NA.
I have no personal opinion on either book, I take what I need from every source and leave what doesn't work.........
This forum has definately helped me, along with our sources. Today is the 1 month celebration!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mystere, are you out there??????????????? Lostsoul, also thinking of you!
Peaz, thanks for everything!
HI PEAZY!!!! Love you bunches!!!
Frey is the author of A million (little) pieces....
No matter what, something is working be it the books, this forum or my past 12 step experiences.......I am truly now starting to feel like the old me...........And am tab free
ALL you chicks have a great weekend and I love ya----Peazy
Much Love to you All!
You can email me and I will support you, I am almost 2 weeks clean and starting to feel the best I have felt in 8 years before I started the pills. I was a Lortab 10mg(40 a day) and Ultram(about 40 a day)user...I quit c/t and went through hell but kept positive and angered. I made myself get so pissed at the control the bottle of pills had over me I grit me teeth and prayed for the next day...If you want I can give you my e-mail, just let me know.
nice to see so many people here getting better,
recovery is change, and the begining of recovery
is to want it, the key being want!- willingness,
we may not be where we want to be , but just having the desire
to change and get off the pills is the way it starts.
there are different approches to recovery, 12 step programs,
the one here rational recovery, it seems to me they all work,
but it is our willingness to get better that gets us better.
the principle of reciprocity- we reap what we sow is one
of the big ones, all the recovery programs are about us
getting in touch with reality/ the truth about ourselves and our lives.
there are positives and negitives about addiction,one of the big negitives is denial or blame, the oppisite and positive
of them are acceptance , getting honest and accepting
who we are is a big step.
all the programs are about growing up, most of us stopped
growing up at some point in our useing, part of growing up
is taking responsabilty for our actions.and getting in touch and learning about spiritual principles, such as honesty,
openmindedness, willingness,acceptance,humilty,
religion is not the same as spititualty, if it was
we could all get better if we just went to some church.
most of the addicts i have known personaly who have tried the religion route, wind up with a bible in one hand and a playboy in the other.
one extreem or the other,that is the nature of addiction.
wether addiction is a disease or not i do not know,
iwe call it a disease for lack of a better term.
hate, and racism are acids that destroy the jar that holds them
the 12 wstep programs are based on an awakeaning of the spirit,
that awakeaning is setting aside our differences and coming together as equals, what drugs we used is one of the things we use to seperate ourselves from others, along with age , race ,
religion, lack of religion , sexual preference,
it is not what drug we used that makes us an addict , but rather why we used those drugs,
getting better is about awareness, who we are , where we are wrong, where we will be wrong, and how we can address this problem, it all starts with getting clean, here at this fourm
there is a lot of help with this problem, there is many with a lot of experence, one of the books that helped me in early recovery was THE FOAD LESS TRAVELED BY SCOTT PECK.
also a book called AWARENESS BY A. DEMELLO.
both books are about spiritualty, since addiction is a spiritual
problem once we put down the drugs, finding out about these type
of solutions are important.in order to stay clean
another good book is THE SPIRITUALY OF IMPERFECTION..
I DO NOT BELEIVE there are any chance meetings, we all wound up here at this fourm for a reason, this place is a stepping stone to grater things in eachof our lives, we can get better
and make the world a better place, the more we give the more we get,
peace!!!!!!!!!hippy , sorry for rambling
it is just good to see everyone getting better baby step
bye baby step. we need to remember that we are notso different,
then anyone else here, or at any other recovery program.
addiction is a matter of life and death and it affects lives,
so lets try to be kind, loving and good to all we meet.
we can change the world, just for today. it starts with
one addict helping another.
You said you didn't get the same feeling when you took some painpills after your detox. I would say that is because you were looking for the feeling we get from the Pred, not the painpills. Painpills give most a high, but they don't give the 'speeding' feeling that Pred does. I still take Pred off and on (20 mgs once a day) to keep my eczema under control when it flares. My Crohn's is in remission at the present time. I just took some this morning when I got up and I can assure you it's a totally different feeling than I get from the Oxy and Vicodin I take for my pain.
You also did a detox WAY too fast off the Pred. You should only drop by 2 mgs. every week or so at the most once you get down to 5 or 10 mg. of Pred a day. Then the best way we've all found to get totally off of it is to take the dose you are on one day, the next day take 1 to 2 mg less, the 3rd day take the higher dose again, 4th day take the 1 to 2 mg less, and do that varied approach for as long as you need, as much as a week maybe, to adjust to the next lower dose. Once you are ok, then stay on the lower dose until stable ... then do another varied drop. Continue this till you are down to 1 or 2 mg. a day, then totally stop. Once you are down to below 2 mg. your glands that have been shut down since you have been on Pred will start to function again. It takes them awhile to restart, so you may be uncomfortable for a few days, but it's not anything real bad if you have done a slow varied taper while getting off the Pred. I tried a regular taper off the Pred when I was on it full time for a few months and it didn't work. When I tried the varied taper (2 mg. drops) I got off of it real easy.
My glands did start working again fairly quickly, but it took me awhile before I could get around someone who was sick and NOT get 3 times as sick as they were, due to my immune system being compromised when on the Pred. Even these days only taking Pred maybe a couple days a month I will get sick very easily. It's a nasty drug, but it sure saved my life when my last Crohn's flare hit.