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vicodin, withdrawals not so bad....WHY???
Oddly enough, I have been taking vicodin in high doses, percocet, also high doses..and well just about any pill in that area for about 2 and a half years now. I decided to stop cold turkey 2 days ago. Before I did, I begged God to make it easy for me, because I knew the w/d symptoms could be excruciating. Well, I have to say...I think He heard my prayer, because I haven't had any of the awful w/d symptoms I have seen that you all have gone through. I have only been a little edgy, but otherwise, NO diarrhea, no leg cramps/restlesness, no feelings of desperation.
And I dont want you all to say 'well, she just was never taking that many then...' cuz I WAS..I was taking up to 20norcos a day, and sometimes even mixing them with the percocet. I was getting 240 5mg vikes a month, for my back...and I have decided NOT to refill the script on the 14th when I am able to. I just wanted you all to know, that God listens to prayer, and He answers them to. Just sometimes the answer may be 'No'.....I guess the main reason I wanted to post this was to tell you all I am going to pray for you tonight..pray that God gives you the comfort He gave to me. Because I know that it is because of Him that I am doing as well as I am. How else can you explain it? You know as well as I do that I should be in ALOT of discomfort right about now, yet I'm not.
So, whether you like it or not, you are all in my prayers tonight and I ask that you keep me in yours.
God Bless You All!! :)
And I dont want you all to say 'well, she just was never taking that many then...' cuz I WAS..I was taking up to 20norcos a day, and sometimes even mixing them with the percocet. I was getting 240 5mg vikes a month, for my back...and I have decided NOT to refill the script on the 14th when I am able to. I just wanted you all to know, that God listens to prayer, and He answers them to. Just sometimes the answer may be 'No'.....I guess the main reason I wanted to post this was to tell you all I am going to pray for you tonight..pray that God gives you the comfort He gave to me. Because I know that it is because of Him that I am doing as well as I am. How else can you explain it? You know as well as I do that I should be in ALOT of discomfort right about now, yet I'm not.
So, whether you like it or not, you are all in my prayers tonight and I ask that you keep me in yours.
God Bless You All!! :)
I'm on Day 3 since quitting vicodin, and I 'm starting to feel much much better. I had started taking them around 2 years ago because they made playing video games incredibly cool, no other reason. What started out at 1 a day eventually, like everyone else, turned into up to 15 10mg/325 Norcos a day. I was no longer getting the results I wanted from them and hated needed them just to feel normal. This is my third time attempted to quit, but this time I actually wanted to quit which is making is much easier. I did not taper, I just cold turkey'ed.
Strangely the first day for me was the worst, because previously I went through hell on days 2 and 3. But this time I did more research and found the best way to get through this. I found the Thomas Recipe (just Google it) and it has worked wonders. I woke up this morning feeling fresh, did a round of P90X Chest and Back, then went for a drive a jammed out on the radio!
Also, if I could give one HUGE piece of advice is GET UP and MOVE! Everytime I started feeling that sinking feeling you get, I went for a walk, EVERYTIME. It's hard, I know. But move. Just lying around is going to make recovery so much harder. People not coming off of opiates have a hard time getting going again just laying around all day!
Patience is also key, you are not going to feel 100% in just a week. Even though I'm feeling ok today I'm sure there is plenty of battle left for me. But that's ok, I did this to me, so I can undo it. Mind over Matter! Push push push push and believe in yourself and don't ever tell yourself you can't!!! Good luck and I hope this helps even just one person regain control of their life!
Strangely the first day for me was the worst, because previously I went through hell on days 2 and 3. But this time I did more research and found the best way to get through this. I found the Thomas Recipe (just Google it) and it has worked wonders. I woke up this morning feeling fresh, did a round of P90X Chest and Back, then went for a drive a jammed out on the radio!
Also, if I could give one HUGE piece of advice is GET UP and MOVE! Everytime I started feeling that sinking feeling you get, I went for a walk, EVERYTIME. It's hard, I know. But move. Just lying around is going to make recovery so much harder. People not coming off of opiates have a hard time getting going again just laying around all day!
Patience is also key, you are not going to feel 100% in just a week. Even though I'm feeling ok today I'm sure there is plenty of battle left for me. But that's ok, I did this to me, so I can undo it. Mind over Matter! Push push push push and believe in yourself and don't ever tell yourself you can't!!! Good luck and I hope this helps even just one person regain control of their life!
This is an old post but I just wanted to say, I completely understand what you said about just seeing things again!
This is a old thread I'm sure and I'm a little late responding but I quit cold turkey after taking 30 to 40 7.5 hydros a day. I just woke up one morning and decided this has gone on long enough. I recently lost my job and drained all my bank accounts to support my habit and even relied on begging my girlfriend for money and lying about what I was spending it on. I was a good loving guy and would help anyone out I would give my family or friends my last 20$ before I used it for myself but since I started using there's no way in hell I would do that for anyone. I had a good job and accomplished a lot in life... Until I started using that crap that is. I'm gettin off track here I learned that detoxing is 90% mental.. at least in my opinion it is. In my case it is. I'm on day 10 without anything I pumped my body full of b12 2500 dissolvable tablets that I got from a vitamin store and that's all I have taken I guess I should mention I drink a lot of orange juice too maybe that's why the physical part hasn't been so bad. I think I hit my lowest point and just had enough I know it sounds cliche but you really do have to want to quit in order to quit. If your just quitting for someone else or any reason other than for yourself let me reassure you, you will relapse. I have no desire to go back. I have always heard its 3 days and poof you feel normal again haha no way I'm on day 10 and I'm just now starting to get my energy back it ***** but everyday after the 4th or 5th truley does get better you gotta keep your head up and be strong. If you put forth half the effort into getting clean that you did in trying to get money or find pills then drying out should be a piece of cake. I personally hate these forums there so depressing but it is a good place to vent Ill pray for all of you who are truley trying to clean your act up ;) if I can do it then anyone of you can too. It all depends on how bad you want it. I just had a beautiful baby girl 4 months ago as we'll so I may have a little advantage with tryin get clean :) I hope the best for you addicts and trust me when I say taking opiates to feel better is nothing compared to the feeling of true happiness like watching you baby grow up while you have a good clean head on your shoulders and aren't high off your ***. It's nothing like actually seeing real colours instead of the way colours look when your high lol no one understands what I mean when I say that but even the smallest most simple things like "colours" look more vibrant when your sober. I have more of a glow to me than I ever had when I was high. I was just so stuck on that **** to really I mean really see things the way there meant to be seen. I look back and realize I wasted a little over 2 yrs of my life :( don't make the same mistake I have I can't believe there's ppl who have wasted 10-20-30 yrs. such a shame
iv been takin narcs since i was 16 so abt 6 years now, i quit but i relapsed so many times, that it makes me feel that im such a weak person, even tho im not , im mentaly tough, im a responsable person, pepole have always come to me for help in everyday **** , pepole take my opinion, i haelped so many people from drug problems to family problems.... i work very long hours and a very hard job , and im realy realy good at what i do, what i dont seem to understand how can somone so strong mentaly emotianly and phisiscaly be so fukin weak when it comes down to drugss ? i can quit anytime i want , i can deal with phisical pain, i can hide it from family and work no problem... but i relapse every single time , sometimes i last a month and i wonce lasted abt 10 month. i dont like to admit that im an adict some of my friends kno that i was adicted at some point few years ago but they think that i only use ocasonly ever since, i dont want to get help bc i dont need it, im quittin today and like everytime i say its for good but a few month later i start takin pills once a week next thing u kno im relapsing and im bak to 50 mg day or somtimes 100 mg per day, recently i was on oxys abt 100 mg a day for abt a year, 5 month ago i stoped cold turkey for 30 days clean then went bak to abt 30 mg a day for 2 month then i stoped for 3 weeks then for a month and half iv been on oxys sometime 80 a day and the last ten days iv been on percosets abt 25 mg a day , and everytime it seems that drugs find their way to me, like after a week clean i had new years party and i was still a little sik and i wanted to have fun so i used again that night and the day after bc i had work i didnt want to crash at work and it kinda took off from there and everytime its something similar, one time its a big family diner that i dont want to be quiet and a little sik i wanted to be myself, one time its a date where i didnt want to go there on my 5th day if withdrawl with the girl and feel sick, one time its an important meeting where i have to talk infront of ppl for hours and i ffelt i could do it bc i was on my 5th day of withdrawl its always somting like that, i would like to read some replies at least it makes me feel like somone give a **** give me your opinion, in my society and life style i cant realy talk abt my drug problem with anyone so i came here to this site by mistake i thought ill post and see what people have to say , thanx - mike
Do you realize you are posting messages to people from Jan. '07???????????? I am thinking they are probably not giving a hoot what you think and hopefully are off of their drugs and all well by now!
No, Hobbit, you didn't come of as too harsh. You *****-footed around the topic. These people believing that THEIR prayers are working for them because they are some "chosen ones" of "god's" is nonsense AND it's an insult to a mother sitting at her child's bedside who is dying of cancer. God won't answer her prayers, yet he'll help these idiots throught their little problems. And yes, I am downplaying withdrawal from drugs compared to a mother watching her child slowly die.
I took too much vicodin at one point - for about 5 months....loved it. Then I quit. I had withdrawals, but I knew they would end soon. Big deal. If people would quit praying for themselves and for others, maybe they'd find the time to actually get off their butts and help people who have WAY bigger problems.....problems, I might add, that "god" is not helping them through no matter how hard they believe or pray.
Scarlet99 is a nutjob. She'd probably be one of those people who wouldn't give her kid insulin if he/she was diagnosed with juvenile diabetes. She'd rely on "god" to save him/her through prayer. OOPS! Kid would die.
She was probably taking a placebo.
I took too much vicodin at one point - for about 5 months....loved it. Then I quit. I had withdrawals, but I knew they would end soon. Big deal. If people would quit praying for themselves and for others, maybe they'd find the time to actually get off their butts and help people who have WAY bigger problems.....problems, I might add, that "god" is not helping them through no matter how hard they believe or pray.
Scarlet99 is a nutjob. She'd probably be one of those people who wouldn't give her kid insulin if he/she was diagnosed with juvenile diabetes. She'd rely on "god" to save him/her through prayer. OOPS! Kid would die.
She was probably taking a placebo.
Man, what a bunch of MORONS!! Yes, there is a little fairy named "god" and he doesn't have anything better to do ------- you know, starving children, grieving parents of dead children, sick children, war, cancer, Africa, AIDS, murder victims, animal cruelty -----
No, he's too busy granting your little wishes with his fairy wand so that you won't have withdrawal symptoms from vicodin and other drugs. Poor babies. I'm so glad the god fairy is in your little corner though, and not helping the baby who got stuck in a microwave or violence across the nation. He (the god fairy) will probably also help all of your favorite teams win the "big game" when you watch football on Sundays, right?
Yes, you fairy-god followers sure do have the brains. Wow.
No, he's too busy granting your little wishes with his fairy wand so that you won't have withdrawal symptoms from vicodin and other drugs. Poor babies. I'm so glad the god fairy is in your little corner though, and not helping the baby who got stuck in a microwave or violence across the nation. He (the god fairy) will probably also help all of your favorite teams win the "big game" when you watch football on Sundays, right?
Yes, you fairy-god followers sure do have the brains. Wow.
I was taking 20 norc's a day and what helped me was a non-narcotic drug called Ultram (Tramadol).
I'd take four at a time and it took all the withdrawls away, and i never felt bad.
I really recommend anyone who is wanting to quit the drug to ask you're doctor about Ultram it REALLY HELPS! I Swear!
I'd take four at a time and it took all the withdrawls away, and i never felt bad.
I really recommend anyone who is wanting to quit the drug to ask you're doctor about Ultram it REALLY HELPS! I Swear!
I'm a 59 year old male who has benn taking 4 norco (1000mg) and 7-8Vicodan 750's per day. I'm in day 2 of detox and feeling the effects. My MD decided on weening me off to the tune of 4 500mg Vics per day....1/3 of my usual dosage. Pain and insomnia is great. How long at 215 lbs. and a 7 year user can I expect this degree (sever) of withdrawal syptoms? 3-5 days? 1 week? 2-3 weeks? Getting really scared! Tibetan1
I'm a 59 year old male who has benn taking 4 norco (1000mg) and 7-8Vicodan 750's per day. I'm in day 2 of detox and feeling the effects. My MD decided on weening me off to the tune of 4 500mg Vics per day....1/3 of my usual dosage. Pain and insomnia is great. How long at 215 lbs. and a 7 year user can I expect this degree (sever) of withdrawal syptoms? 3-5 days? 1 week? 2-3 weeks? Getting really scared! Tibetan1
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Pain killer addiction treatment
Pain killer addiction and recovery
Addiction to prescription painkillers is a disease that has become increasingly prevalent in the United States and elsewhere. Opiate, or narcotic pain medications such as Vicodin, OxyContin, Norco, and Hydrocodone are commonly prescribed by physicians to treat pain. Often, patients continue taking their medication as prescribed and become physically dependent upon the drug. This means that even if they want to stop taking the medication, it becomes extremely uncomfortable due to symptoms of withdrawal. This happens because of the following physical process:
The brain has responded to the presence of the pain medicine by increasing the number of receptors for the drug, and the nerve cells in the brain cease to function normally.
The body stops producing endorphins (the body
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Pain killer addiction treatment
Pain killer addiction and recovery
Addiction to prescription painkillers is a disease that has become increasingly prevalent in the United States and elsewhere. Opiate, or narcotic pain medications such as Vicodin, OxyContin, Norco, and Hydrocodone are commonly prescribed by physicians to treat pain. Often, patients continue taking their medication as prescribed and become physically dependent upon the drug. This means that even if they want to stop taking the medication, it becomes extremely uncomfortable due to symptoms of withdrawal. This happens because of the following physical process:
The brain has responded to the presence of the pain medicine by increasing the number of receptors for the drug, and the nerve cells in the brain cease to function normally.
The body stops producing endorphins (the body
To tell someone to pray and all will be fine is considerably dangerous when you consider the hell that some people go through with withdrawal; this is what I was trying to portray. If people are going to rely on divine intervention instead of medical attention then they are doing themselves a great disservice and possible harm. When you consider that God chooses people to go through withdrawal or not, it all seems a little silly really. I am sorry, but just as you are entitled to your opinion, so too am I.
For someone to say that God will help us beat this is just as offensive to me as it is to you when I mention that it is ridiculous. Why is it profoundly more taboo to discuss the non-existence of God compared to the existence of God, when all it is is a belief anyway?
For someone to say that God will help us beat this is just as offensive to me as it is to you when I mention that it is ridiculous. Why is it profoundly more taboo to discuss the non-existence of God compared to the existence of God, when all it is is a belief anyway?
I am sorry if I upset you, and I didn't mean to come across so harsh. I did mention that I'm glad that faith is good for people that need it, but there is a danger to believing in such things too. Relying on blind faith alone is not going to do much good in the long run.
Wow Hobbit,
I'm Pagan and I don't believe in the Christian version of God either but you don't HAVE TO say something because you are a scientist. If prayer is what works for these people then let them have that. Just because you believe one thing doesn't make it true for everyone. I don't mean to sound like a b*tch but I just think that it's kind of rude for you to down these people's faith when that's what's getting them through this. Who cares what is "scientifically proven", if it's keeping them off of the drugs, then why question it? Besides, there's no way to ever know for sure what's out there.
Blessed Be!
~Riki
I'm Pagan and I don't believe in the Christian version of God either but you don't HAVE TO say something because you are a scientist. If prayer is what works for these people then let them have that. Just because you believe one thing doesn't make it true for everyone. I don't mean to sound like a b*tch but I just think that it's kind of rude for you to down these people's faith when that's what's getting them through this. Who cares what is "scientifically proven", if it's keeping them off of the drugs, then why question it? Besides, there's no way to ever know for sure what's out there.
Blessed Be!
~Riki
I am glad that God can give you hope, but I am an atheist and have never prayed once. I have not suffered any ill consequences from coming off opiates. I've been taking 3–4 a day for 3 years, so can you please explain this? I don't mean to extinguish your flame, but scientific tests have been carried out to determine whether praying has any effect on recovery, and there is NO evidence. I am very sorry to come across like this, but I am a scientist and when I hear something like this I have to say something. I am glad that you find solace in your faith, but I'm afraid that whether you prayed or not, you would still be feeling exactly the same now. You obviously are one of the lucky ones like me whom have the correct genetic make up to not suffer so badly from opiates.
could you pray for me, the biggest problem I have is feeling so fatigued, like I am gonna fall over.
Scarlett99...keep up the great work!! I know your life is going to get better and better every day!!!!!!!!!!!
Scarlett99...keep up the great work!! I know your life is going to get better and better every day!!!!!!!!!!!
Kissy,
OF COURSE I will pray for you! :)
I am glad that the scripture I posted from Jeremiah was so meaningful to you, too. I really felt like God wanted me to post that, and I am so glad that it brought you closer to Him.
Isn't it awesome, how God uses people that have never met one another to give hope and peace to each other, by reminding them of how much He loves us all.
Each day, it will get easier, kissy. And each day, you will feel a little stronger, and a little more relieved---that you now have control over the addiction, not the addiction having control over YOU.
Keep up the great work, and IF you fall, dont beat yourself up over it....Everyone falls at first, but just remember that God is there to pick you back up again and help you through it again.
You are in my prayers.
Jennifer
OF COURSE I will pray for you! :)
I am glad that the scripture I posted from Jeremiah was so meaningful to you, too. I really felt like God wanted me to post that, and I am so glad that it brought you closer to Him.
Isn't it awesome, how God uses people that have never met one another to give hope and peace to each other, by reminding them of how much He loves us all.
Each day, it will get easier, kissy. And each day, you will feel a little stronger, and a little more relieved---that you now have control over the addiction, not the addiction having control over YOU.
Keep up the great work, and IF you fall, dont beat yourself up over it....Everyone falls at first, but just remember that God is there to pick you back up again and help you through it again.
You are in my prayers.
Jennifer
Scarlet99,
I just can't stop crying....I needed to hear those words so much! Thank you for your encouragement...you have helped me sooooooooooo much!
I hope God will bless you, and all of the people out there trying to live a better life!
You have given me so much hope. Thank you for writing me. I won't give up!!
Life will be better and better every day! And in a month, I bet we will be soooooooooooooooooooo happy and thankful we stuck it out, and were strong!
I am here for you!!!!! I am praying for you too! Let me know how your doing!
love,
kissysissy
I just can't stop crying....I needed to hear those words so much! Thank you for your encouragement...you have helped me sooooooooooo much!
I hope God will bless you, and all of the people out there trying to live a better life!
You have given me so much hope. Thank you for writing me. I won't give up!!
Life will be better and better every day! And in a month, I bet we will be soooooooooooooooooooo happy and thankful we stuck it out, and were strong!
I am here for you!!!!! I am praying for you too! Let me know how your doing!
love,
kissysissy
Wow...I am so glad that you are all in favor of prayer! :)
I am on day 4 now and I am doing just great. NO shakes, tremors, depression....NADA.
And I HAVE to give that credit to God! I just can't explain any other reason. Because like I said before, you all KNOW that with what I was taking, and for as long as I was----I should be feeling pretty crappy right now.
Praise GOD for His help in making this so easy...and I will continue to pray for all of you, too.
God Bless....:)
I am on day 4 now and I am doing just great. NO shakes, tremors, depression....NADA.
And I HAVE to give that credit to God! I just can't explain any other reason. Because like I said before, you all KNOW that with what I was taking, and for as long as I was----I should be feeling pretty crappy right now.
Praise GOD for His help in making this so easy...and I will continue to pray for all of you, too.
God Bless....:)
You know what I have been taking vicoden for 4 years now. I have been taking around 8-10 (doc prescribes them to me 2 every 4 hours.) 10/325's a day. I also have gone without the pain meds for 2 days now because they got stolen by my neighbor (whom is an addict) and my doctor wont refill them for another 2 weeks, and I am not having very bad w/d effects. I had to make a police report and everything.
I also asked for help through prayer and I am not a religious person, but at the same time I do believe. I just don't attend church or pray regularly. The only effect I have noticed so far is that I am having trouble sleeping and my body is starting to twitch some.
Of course my back and legs hurt, but that is normal pain from my fibromyalgia flaring up Im sure. So yes prayer does work and it doesnt matter if you are a very religious person or not.
I also asked for help through prayer and I am not a religious person, but at the same time I do believe. I just don't attend church or pray regularly. The only effect I have noticed so far is that I am having trouble sleeping and my body is starting to twitch some.
Of course my back and legs hurt, but that is normal pain from my fibromyalgia flaring up Im sure. So yes prayer does work and it doesnt matter if you are a very religious person or not.
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