what to expect after the last dose of methadone

today i found out that on 6/27/11 will be my last dose of methadone any advice of what i could  do to  help prepare myself and what is the worst to look for. I have been detoxing since 2/1/11 and so far it havent been to bad last night i had a little bit of the runs not painful though and once at work i had a abnormal good felling my boss told me what ever i am doing keep at it but i no how tricky this drug can be detoxing from it and could use all the advice i can get.

[gnarly_1]

HI we would love to help you but we really need more info from you how long where you on it and at what dose your age ....these are alll thing that will factor into how long your detox will last as a general rule it a good 7 day week with some symptoms going into 2 weeks
its not so much the withdrawal itself as it is the post withdrawal that makes methadone so hard to beat for most its a 90 day grind to start to feel well the first mo your kinda dope sick all moth no sleep at all and an energy crash thats debilitating the second mo you sorta lay in limbo it was around 90 days that this stuff lets go of you try not to get doscouraged ...I know 90 days sounds like an eternity but you do get well slowly get up to walmart and pick up a 3 in one vitamin calcium/magnesium/zinc and start taking 4 in the morning and 4 with dinner this will greatly ez your withdrawals also prepare yourself mentally....all of a sudden life is going to start coming at you at 100 mile an hr and in tec/na/color you dont think it has an effect on you till your off of it  let me know about the questions I asked and I will be able to help you farther also what dose you will be jumping from and if you tapered how fast was your taper...I will wait to here back from you good luck and God bless......Gnarly  

[treney1dog]

high i was drinking 65mg of methadone detoxed for abought 6 1/2 months i am 47 herion addict since 16 started detoxing with a tapper of 5 mg a month until 30 mg started with high dose of zinc mag calc so far down to 5 mg with no problems sleep good no widthdrawl pain i can fell the zinc mag helping i posted the question because i never tried detoxing useing zinc mag the last time i tryed to detox i never made it this far i couldnt sleep eat move and very irretable but this time i realy feel  good better than i have in years but also i no how sneeky   this drug can be. o at 30 mg i went blind for my psyc thank for your concern.  one love

[atthebeach]

hey i saw your other threads. it is best to stick to one so we dont have to keep refering back to the others or keep answering or answering the same questions.
go to the bottom right of this page, there is a section of heatlh pages. click on those. you will find some articles that you should read. PAWS part 1 & 1,methadone detox and taper realtiies part 1 & 2. these will answer alot of your questions.

i am so happy for you that you want to reclaim your life.
please get into some counseling,therapy, na/aa,church to help you stay a recovering addict and not an active one.
may the LORD help you and bless you
debbie

[treney1dog]

the head nurse told me today that they are routting for me and they decided to extend my tweening of 2mg for 2 more weeks . since i have been doing so good i got to make this work i never had this much concern for me completing from any other program its a first in my 27 years of addiction .

[atthebeach]

hi why do you want to extend it? you are just dragging it out. i spoke with my husband last night about your post and 2mg. my husband went ct 16 months ago from 20mg. he said when he went to the clinic and saw people getting 2mg it is a dropperful. hun at this point it is just playing a mental game with you. you need to break free of it. it (drug addiction) has had you bound for too many years of your life. it is your mind telling you that if you keep doing 2mg you will be ok. please just stop it. the 2mg isnt doing anything for you but keeping you in bondage to that bottle and that clinic. just more money for them.
praying for the chains of addiction and bondage to be broken
debbie

[treney1dog]

your husband is right my dose looks like clear water how bad was it for him and how long . as of right now i am not sick and sleeping prety good and a little scard but know matter what i have made up my mind no going back a friend called me yesterday and offered me a 80 mg bottel to take her to get medecated i refused and asked  her never to offer it to me again and now she understand that i am deadly serious about becomeing human again.

[atthebeach]

good for you telling her to hit the road  jack and dont you come back no more, no more.
definitely have to change the people, places and things associated with using.

well much different scenario. he was on it for ten years highest dose 100mg plus he was also taking up to 8mg of xanax. he went ct from 20mg of meth and from xanax the same day.he was very,very sick for months. but dont let this frighten you. you tapered down to 2mg and you havent been taking anything right? so you should be fine. you will have some aches,stomach issues, restless legs, some anxiety, problems sleeping.
you will take time to heal,emotionally,mentally,physically and spiritually. this is the part where the patience comes in. you have detoxed before and know what to expect. did you read those articles i suggested??  quite frankly my husband really took about 90 days to get over the acute stages because of his length of use and going ct from 20mg. then he was very,very  tired, like run into a brick wall, hid by a mack truck tired, didnt sleep literally for a few months. it is amazing what the body can endure. he was then very foggy,
we have our own business. so he didnt work never could have he lost 40 lbs during his withdrawal. hope i didnt scare you. but you asked and i told. you did it the right way and tapered all the way down and have been on it for a very short time.

he started to exercise lift weights, he jogs, he eats very healthy. he is now the healthiest,
happiest,cleanest,his blood pressure is way more under control now. his sleep apnea is gone. he is free,free,free from the chains of addiction.
did you get all the supplies gnarly suggested?
the desire to be clean has to be stronger than the desire to use. addiction is so much more mental than physical,
break free of that clinic and that bottle,
i will pray for you
debbie

[treney1dog]

know I havent been taking nothing but the cal zinc mag i will stop tomorrow  take them back there take home bottel started feeling real foggy last night at work nothing i cant handel  i think i might lose a little weight  since i picked up so much drinking the meth 235  to around 280 it dosent show to bad because i am a muscular guy all the males on program have pregnet bellies thats a nother reson  i am through with drug i quit smokeing 20 years ago and has never picked up not once so i am not a quitter and with loveing people like you heae i wont go wrong thank you .

[treney1dog]

my program for what ever reason has extended my tweening to 7/7 11 i would like your advice on should i continue or jump of now either way doht make a me difference to i am ready but would like the most unpainfulliest route you are the the only person that i talked to that has beet meth and that i have excess to my counsler god bless is young and tells me it is all a mind thing dont no where she got her degree but i got mine from using and i no better she makes me laugh . so i can jump of at two now or take it to one i feel pretty good sleaping no cramps a little streaching and foggy in the morning other than that im ok the last time i tried to detox i never made it this far because of stomach pains and up to this point i have none that has allways been my problem  so what ever was cramping my stomach i hope i grew out of it your help has been very comforting to me and i moved  into a small apartment untill this is over so my wife and kids dont distract me . my kids witch are grown belive i  am giving mom a little space i have invested in this hevay and dont want to fail 3 months from no is my 48 birth day and i would like to take my wife on a trip a free man thanks one love.  

[atthebeach]

hey my husband said that at 1 or 2 mg it is just a mind game at this point and it doesnt matter if you stay on those doses for another 6 months when you come off yes you are going to feel the withdrawals. you have toxins and poisons in your body and it will take time to be flushed out. you already know what to expect. if you stop now instead of going until 7/7 you will be 11 days ahead of the "game". of course they want you to stay on it longer it is money for them a business.
tell them you are stopping now. start the detoxing, be strong, use the supplies, think positive, you want to be free, so start today.keep the faith
i am praying for you
debbie

[atthebeach]

yes by 3 months you will be much better for that trip. 90 days is a very big turning point in recovery. you,your wife ,your family need,deserve and want a free man. you are on your way my friend.pray,pray,pray
the LORD is with you
debbie

[treney1dog]

your wright im done its not worth the gas just for a drop tomorrow will be day one clean keep me in your prayers

[atthebeach]

hey how are you doing? did you go to the clinic today?

[gnarly_1]

it usually takes a few days to hit but hill get threw it will see how his recovery goes one of these days I am going to post about a meracalus recovery so far the house record is 60 days
hopefully he will post soon to let us know how he is doing..........Gnarly

[fallenangel_1]

Hello, can you keep me posted?  I'm same as you was H addict in uk, am down at 5ml no issues at all the drop from 7.5 to 5 was not pleasant but ok, am now at 5 and was meant to drop today but only got given 3 diazepam (5mg) for 3 days, I'm 34 newly qualified in reiki n hypnotherapy so got a new life I'm not in danger of using ever no matter how hard it is, but I took 4ml this morn instead of stopping, I don't have much support except my 17 old daughter who is pregnant and has her own house, I have a 2 year old...... How are you.... What's it like?  Many thanks and well done :)

[treney1dog]

sorry i cant post on fri sat mon tue nights because i work those nights man what a day . yesterday was last day and for some reason every one one the gram was offering me meth unreal and but the funny thing it made me  feel good to tell them no i am good nice knowing ya im gone.so far no problem no pain yet just low energy and small streaches i found out the supplements was making me foggy so i am cutting down from  8 to 5 a day i have all ready finished one bottel cant wait until 3rd  day witch  is normaly when all well break lose from previous attemps. thanks so much it feel nice to talk to people who have been were i am and care god bless.

[treney1dog]

came home posted took a nap woke crying so hard what up with that never had this before it wont stop i just keep sobbing a river poring down my face.  

[atthebeach]

it is normal. my husband cried non stop for a long time. your emotions were depressed
consder it a cleansing. good tell them no you dont want it that is very empowering to beable to refuse it. stand firm.
so glad you decided to take the plunge
sending blessings
debbie

[gnarly_1]

HI good to see you post ......your emotions will be all over the place for a wile I always say this is 1/3 phyical 2/3 mental and the mental/emotional part can be far harder then the withdrawal itself the withdrawal usually takes a few days to hit methadone has a 36hr 1/2 life so you got to wait it out....dont read anything into it some get off with little withdrawal like I hacve said b/4 it is the lack of sleep and the energy crash that make methadone such a monster to kick it can take a few mo for this to go away....again dont read anything into it you could be the exception to the rule good luck and God bless........Gnarly

[treney1dog]

what should i do now about my supplements i had been taking twice the recomended dosage now for a month the thing now is my appatite has gone and by not eating with them is not good .it feels like my body wants to streach in half and yarning so hard gives me a head  akes all combined = misery and i have to fight my thoughts now i am so use to using when in pain man what a brual . i no i realy am going to need yall to be with me i have no frends because all i no are users so i am hideing in the house after i am off work its getting tough and iam just starting please pray for me dont beleve i would have made it this far without the wonderfull folks at this forum is there any thing else i can do or take.

[gnarly_1]

HI I will pray for you to have the strenth to ggo threw this the yaning is the first part of the physical symptoms from here you get al achy the chills the sweats and possibly the restless legs are all possibility just hang in there and know for the next week your not going to feel right as I often say.....you just got to be ok without being ok for a wile it is only temporary
I also got the headaches but I dont think there caused by the yauning YOU CAN DO THIS try not to let fear into the equation just go with it .....it usually comes in waves so you will have times its not so bad pray when its ruff keep posting for support we all want to see you succeed good luck and God bless.....Gnarly      

[treney1dog]

yarning so hard makes my head hurt that and what i now call the pulls feels like body want to pull apart sleep down to1 1/2 hours at a time the crying stoped dont know whats up with that crying hard for no reason goes to show the effects the meth have on our bodys day two  very hard but hanging in there.         one love

[atthebeach]

you are doing great. yes the yawning,crying,sneezing,shaking,bathroom issues, no sleep,rls,are all the early acute withdrawal symptoms. so glad you took the plunge. the toxins and poisons need to be cleansed out. make sure you keep moving. push the fluids,
sleep is overrated anyway. lol. try the valerian root,sleepy time tea or chamomile tea and melatonin. the l help to relax you. keep pushing yourself, this to shall pass.
be strong, keep the faith, keep on truckin
praying
debbie

[treney1dog]

im glad that i am off untill sat morning it introduced its self to me today felt so bad dont have the energy to get up to brush and clean please tell me this first stage wont be to long all my cockeness is gone by by i am hanging on by  a thread were does this sh** comes from is my brain causing me this much pain who ever finds the cure for what im going through can have  my house;lexus and money i dont care feel like i am realy dieing here.

[gnarly_1]

Hang in there you will get threw it your getting into the acute stages now usually this will last about a 7 day week with some symptoms going into 10 days it su cks but there is no way around it methadone is a monster to kick but just think how far you have came you did it really well no withdrawals up till now I went in and out of them threw out my taper but I tapered kinda fast from 150 to 1 in 8 1/2 mo so it was kinda to be expected right now a hot soak is going to be your best friend and alive and ibuprofine will take the edge off....I had some nasty withdrawals myself but dident get the mussel being pealed off the bone thing like some
cant imagine just plan to take it ez for the next few days and I know this sounds absuluty impossible right now but try and exersize it will help even if you just have to drag yourself around the block.....YOU CAN DO THIS theres no turning back you came to far keep pushing forward I promise you it will get better good luck and God bless.....Gnarly  

[t_nuh_had_nuf]

Congrats you are doing it. I'm just over 100 days off the done. HOT soaks helped me so much early on. I carried a heating pad around like a security blanket. Also bananas were all I could manage  to get in for a while. You are gonna be OK. this just takes a little time! You are lucky to still have a house, a lexus and money.. many don't make it thru abusing with anything left. You are in my prayers. TEENA

[Smooches24]

I posted earlier about my rapid taper experience w/kratom. Not for everyone, but it's worked miracles for me. It might be worth a try for managing the worst of it. I didn't have it when I went through c/t withdrawal from a moderate dose, so I don't know if or how it would have worked for climbing out of that dark, horrid place. But for managing w/d symptoms during a taper (down 2.5mg every 3 days), it's been an absolute freaking miracle. Low doses, respect for an herb that can be habot forming, and reasonable expectations.

[atthebeach]

wanted to check in on you how are you doing? you have to make yourself move around push yourself, keep pushing the fluids.
keep the faith, be strong, you will get through this,
praying
debbie

[treney1dog]

i am still here just dont feel to talkitave feel likei live in a dead body. hard to move around my hair even feel like it hurt if i get through this i am never going back.

[gnarly_1]

HEY hang in there this is to be expected for about a week or so then it will ligten up and lead into the energy crash and insomnia witch you may or may not all ready have this is not for the fait of heart a lot of people go back because they just cant take it ....it takes perseverence and a strong desire to get clean to do this that and time YOU CAN DO THIS just hang in there and you will pull threw many of or members have been right where your at and no one will tell you detoxing off methadone is ez but it is doable and so so worth it push past the pain time will be your best freind you win this one day at a time and every day you get under your belt your that much closer to getting well good luck and God bless......Gnarly

[treney1dog]

thank for your support your optimisem has helped me get through day by day so far it feels good to speak to someone that have your best enterest in recovering love you for that im fighting for my life well you no thanks for going through this with me,

[t_nuh_had_nuf]

I know it doesn't feel like it but you are doing great! and you are not alone. many are following your progress and cheering for ya! Used to live near Bmore remember Hammerjacks- i'm sooo old. lol  Stay Strong- TEENA

[treney1dog]

hammerjacks still rocks just did a little research on a herb called kraton that has been used sucsessfully to ease widthdrawl of opeiods in china and is sold here in us do you no anything about this,

[treney1dog]

have you ever heard of this kraton for opeiod w/d there web page say it helps with w/d  and is sold in the US sound good i would like your opinion on this if you no anything about it.

[t_nuh_had_nuf]

sorry only know what i've stumbled across on this site. kinda controversial. I can understand wanting relief. It does get better- really!

[gnarly_1]

kratom is addictive and we have had members come on here asking how do you get off it so I say no no to anything addictive to get you off of something addictive...again it is cotravrsal

[treney1dog]

thanks what will be the point if i have to fight it at  the end sound like i will just be chaseing my tail o well i guess its just no going around meth w/d it just *****.

[treney1dog]

had a good feeling but it onley lasted 2 min and poof gone reel drag today no energy at all and have to work fri/sat/sun/mon 12 hours each night from 10 to 10 this is going to be rough and i am man enough to admit i am scared .it so miserable to be tired and cant sleep has it been a month yet yea i know just hopeing cant wait to be alive again my advice to any one thinking of taking methadone it did help me to get my job and car and be able to function but it is a walk through death to rid one self from it do reasearch be for getting on it .god bless.

[gnarly_1]

HANG in there dude things will gradually get better right now your in the acute withdrawal stage it usually last about a 7 day week then thing will get a bit better you wont be out of the woods but you wont feel as bad as you do now this stuff is ruff coming off of it other then sub or heroin I have detoxed off everything at least once its no fun coming off anything but hands down methadone is the worst try to exorcize if you dont the energy crash gets worst
even a walk around the block helps I know its hard when even a walk to the bathroom seams to far hang in there you beat this thing one day at a time sometimes one hr at a time but you will beat it good luckand God bless......Gnarly

[theeagle]

We need to throw a caveat in with any advice about kratom - the stuff is just the leaf of a shrub indigenous to SouthEast Asia ..... I have been familiar with it since Vietnam in the '60s.......its part of the regimine that the famous Monks in Thailand use for detox - and it does have some positive qualities.  BUT I know of at least one instance where the user sufferred multiple organ failure from an insecticide used on the leaf of the shrub - no FDA in Asia and ours does not govern kratom imports........ For that reason I would only endorse the extracts for use. And even then I am a little gunshy of the proper way to utilize the stuff here in the States!  Be very careful ...... the world is full of people that want to make a fast buck on the burgeoning addiction trade...... And there is NO painless way to do this....just some ways to make it less miserable!

[treney1dog]

dont want to be going in circles when im done with the meth. detoxing of something else is to much hard enough now i see onley one way out the painfull way like gnarly-1 said just trying take it hour by hour man this rough .havent cried no more yet that was strange still dont no what that was hope it doesnt come down on me while trying to work told my supervisor i have a stomach virus to cover me if something goes wrong while at work talk to you tomorrow after work one love.

[gnarly_1]

DUDE your doing great to be able to go back to work so soon........there are 2 schools of thought out on this one is it takes your mind off it by staying bizzy witch makes a lot of sence your miserable just siting on the couch the other is rest early on the work your a s s off to get the endorphins flowing again......I think treres a little truth in both ....I was and am greatful I dident have to work wile withdrawing so CUDOS out to you hang in there and post when you get a chance good luck and God bless.......Gnarly

[treney1dog]

i had a bad case of the runs last night boss thinks it is from stomach virus and is taking it easy on me 3 more nights  to go cant stop working way to many bills coming up on 1st week still feel the same i guess i have to pay the pipper for all that useing gnarly-1 seen were some one mention withdrawl (withdrawal)-ease have any personal thoughts my advil is no match for this kind of suffering come to far to through in the towel i must be sufferig so bad now due to an easy and pain free tapper any  and all advice will be greatly apreceated.thanks God bless

[treney1dog]

aunt passed away cousin stopped by to check on me and  had  some morphine and i sniffed a little have to be honest now i feel like i failed so  so stupid just a little sniff and all syptoms (symptoms) stopped  now i  dont no what to do i am dissapointed   with my self can i recover or do i have to start all over my selfasteam and confidance is shot i feel like the looser i was when i first started this sh****** is not easy pleas help me even though i dont deserve it thanks the looser.