withdrawls

[tooty]

I have been taking adderall (adderrall), please tell me what reactions I will be experiencing as I stop taking the drug.

[skipper]

Tooty:
adderal is a mixture of dextroamphetamine and amphetamine. you
should expect a depresion and lethargy when stoping the use of
this drug. maybe some vitamin b complex would help.

[Callisoa]

I am trying to quit crank all by myself.  I was using neadles just a week and a half ago.  I am about to go crazy looking at websites, calling phone #'s I see for drug abuse in the phone book.  I have talked to a people from a few locations in my area and all the available beds for the programs are full until March. This is not what I wanted for my life and I want out now. I have admitted and see I have a major problem. Now that I want to do something about it, I am not so sure if their is any progams actually out there to help me. Please, I have a problem, is there any plan to go by or any program available. I only used needles 2 weeks.  It was 2 weeks to long. I know i can never snort or smoke it again, and i don't want to be a needle user.  I want help, I need help, I am just crying for someone to give me the slightest blue print i am suppose to go by at this point.
Anybody willing to give me some inspiration or advice please email me at ***@****
Thank you with all my soul,
Amanda21f

[Shea]

callisoa,

Please hang in there. I personally don't know where to direct you but I am sure others on this forum who are more knowledgeable will give you some ideas. I do wish you the best of luck.  If you have read the posts here I am sure you have seen posts from all sorts of people, all walks of life, with all kinds of addictions. There are many success stories and encouraging experiences people share. Realizing you have a problem and admitting it is the first step. And you have taken that step.

Keep checking back as I am sure others will reply with suggestions.

May you find peace

Shea

[Witchywoman]

Hi Callisoa,
Have you tried to go to an NA meeting for support while you keep looking into a more structured program to attend?  You will find a wealth of people there, all willing to help you work toward getting and staying clean, and getting your life on track.

Welcome to this forum..please keep us posted and let us know how you are doing. We'll do all we can to help.

love,
WW

[skipper]

Callisoa:
welcome to the forum. we always have room for one more inside.
methadrine huh... way back in the 60's i went around the bend
with that stuff a few times. the crash is always real ugly for
me. witchy woman's advice about trying out NA sounds like a good
idea. Methamphetamine is not physically addictive so you won't
go thru any withdrawals. you will however go thru a real bad
depression and extream lethargy. Some b-complex vitamens will
help your neverious system. small doses of (valium 5-15 mg) will
help you thru any discomfort you have in the first week. i bet i
haven't touched crank in 25 years, but i do remember what the
crash was like.... i felt like a large pane of glass breaking!
SPEED IS FOR KIDS OR PEOPLE WITH TOO MUCH GOOD HEALTH AND FUTURE!

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[cindi]

i asked about amphetamine just last week and got pretty much the same response...I dabbled years ago with the small stuff like black beauties etc...even that was bad news....listen to what WW and kip tell you,,,,welcome to the fourm and please keep us posted..Good luck.....love to all  cin

[Marryanne]

I am with Witchy Woman, you should get to the nearest NA meeting.  Not only will they love you until you can love yourself, they can also give you MANY resources, phone numbers, etc.  They will tell you their experiences and give you advice on where to go for more help/treatment.  Rehab, etc, if you feel you need it.  Welcome to the forum.  We are glad to help you here and good luck!  Love, Maryanne  
PS  The people at the meetings have many answers for you and if you don't like what they have to say, you can go to a different meeting and get different input.  Good Luck!

[Thomas]

get thee both to a benzodiazepine! You're going to need something such as Valium, Klonopin, Xanax, Librium, Ativan. I recommend the slow-acting ones for speed withdrawal, like Valium, Klonopin or Librium. Librium is, I think, the best of the detox benzos. Anyway, fell better. Hope you have access to some of the above.

[Thomas]

I wanted to add, that if you're going to quit a drug, speed is certainly the one. It's on that elite list of drugs that simply nobody can handle. With speed, it's a question of how much damamge you're willing to tolerate. Because it's inevitable with amphetamines. Not that I don't fondly remember a few nights of speed and pot ... just too much damage. Use the benzos and the detox recipe, it will work for speed, too. Speed depletes many of the same neurotransmitters as opiates. Good luck.

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[tryn2rson]

Hey everyone. Need some help. For about 1 year or more, I have been taking Lorcet 10. I am currently (or up until yesterday, been taking up to 2 per day. Yesterday, I took maybe a half a one. Last night before bed, I got a terrible hot flash before bed. By the time I made it to bed, I was shaking so bad. Like I was cold, but I wasnt, I was shaking so bad , I could not stop. I was sweating. This lasted for about 30 minutes. Then I became nauseus (spelling?) and had to go to the bathroom.  Today, I have had about a half one. I need to come off this and if there are people here willing to help, I would very much appreciate it. I need the support so bad. I have to kick this, I have been on and off for 2 years. Fortunatley, I have never gotten over the 2 per day. But, if I dont stop now, I know that I will be up to 30 in a couple of years.
HELP ME

[tryn2rson]

Im sorry guys, I dont know how to use this, I have posted in the wrong area. SORRY

[J.B. to Brian and Vicky]

Ready to quit, eh?  Two Lorcet per day should be too hard on you physically as far as withdrawals so I'll skip to the psychological part.  

When you depend on a drug for as long as you have, your mind gets "imprinted". Anyway, that's what I believe happens. It's not like you can hit delete and start over again with a fresh screen.  No, for many of us here it's been a long and arduous trek of seeking for answers.  Fellowship and sharing play a big role in recovery.  You might even try Narcotics Anonymous for starters.  With time, love and an open mind you may be just fine!

I don't think you posted in the wrong place, by the way.

J.B.

[tryn2rson]

THANKS J.B.
I think, and Im just thinking, you meant to say the withdrawels "shouldn't" be too hard :-) At least I HOPE thats what you meant :-)
But thanks so much for your response and Im going to give it 100%.
THANKS AGAIN

[cindi]

Jb is right,,,at 2 a day the withdrawals should be minimal...compared to the 20 + hydros that alot of people here had been taking.....the withdrawals are horrendous.....after the discomfort of the physical symptoms subside which should be shortly in your case maybe you may want to consider some 12 step help...keep in mind that if you contiue taking them if you don't really nee them for the pain then the problem will only escalate.......you did post in the right place..keep us posted on your progress   love to all   cin

[J.B. to Brian and Vicky]

You are correct, I meant to say "should'nt".  I'm happy you picked up on it and still got my meaning.  That's how it all works in life and even in addiction. Probably the hardest part is to be able to admit that you have a problem.  Then you tell someone else about it and the ball starts to roll.  You will never be without help unless you want it that way.  Hiding out is not a good way to live.  You'll only end up by yourself, with yourself and end up hating yourself. This kind of selfishness is a killer for many of us.  If nothing else, ask God for the strength when you need it.  It will come!

J.B.

[tryn2rson]

Thanks guys! Well, the leg and stomach cramps have started and IM so afraid its going to be a long night.  I do believe with the support from this page, I will be able to kick this. I havent really liked the feeling they have been giving me for a long time. I have a thyroid problem, and I now truly believe this added to my symptoms. I refused to ever increase my dosage for fear of overdosing. I am going to go to some NA meetings as soon as tomorrow.
Would it be in bad taste to take a couple of Valium over the next couple of days, or should I just tough it out.
THANKS

[tryn2rson]

I hear everyone talking about your recipe for withdrawels. Could you share with me. I looked all over and I cannot find, maybe Im just half ass looking. Im still so new to the forum, I tend to get lost (gee, theres a first!) :-)
THANKS
Tryn

[cindi]

some folks would say not to take the valium but go for it...I do believe it is in Thoma's reciepe..just easy does em...ok?    I'm sure thomas will fly by with the recipe...he ususally does  i don't have a cope of it..take the valium.they realy will help   hell the detox centers give stuff to ease the withdrawals.....good luck  love cin

[Shea]

I COPIED THIS FROM ANOTHER POST.....

Here's my tried-and-true do-it-yourself "cold turkey" detox protocol.

Supplies you'll need first:

As many Valium, Xanax, Librium or Klonopin as you can get your hands on.

--- first day off the opiate, use enough Valium or whatever, to, if possible, sleep through most of the first couple days. Then start decreasing the dose until you're down to nothing in about 5 or 6 days. You'll have to do the math. The Valium or one of its sister drugs will help tremendously with the anxiety and, somewhat, with the body aches. Valium may make you eat like a pig and, when withdrawing from narcotics, one usually craves sweets, so I'd be ready to indulge myself, along with some good escapist movies. That always worked for me.

Around-the-clock access to either hot baths or a Jacuzzi.

--speaking of those goddamn mostly thigh cramps that seem to love to show up in the middle of the night, have that hot bath or Jacuzzi at the ready. Don't hesitate to spend the majority of the week in that hot water if that's what it takes to get you through it. You may be wrinkled, but you'll have your sanity. Don't underestimate what the hot baths can do to relieve the withdrawal discomfort. They really work. Heating pads between the thighs can help with those cramps, too, but not as much as the hot baths.

Brand-name-only Imodium (immodium) (over the counter at the supermarket)

-- if you're a normal hydro addict, you'll be getting the runs by no later than the second or third day off the lorcet. In my experience, it's an especially unpleasant variety. At the first impulse, take two or three and respond to returning urges with two tabs. It's important that you do it immediately.

L-Tyrosine (qty 50 of the 500mg caps) - an amino acid available at the health food store.

chronic use of narcotics depletes the brain of several critical neurotransmitters responsible for well-being and mental performance and attitude.
Plus:
Bottle of 100 mg B6 caps

My experience detoxing with this stuff says take 4000 (four thousand) mg. (8x500mg caps of L-Tyrosine) with two 100mg B6 caps every day for your "detox week" to provide your brain with the raw material it needs to replenish its stores of these neurotransmitters. Many feel the difference on the very first dose. ***Take it on an empty stomach, either first thing in the morning or at bedtime. You can continue this regimen after the first week if it continues to make you feel good. I continue to use it every other day with very few exceptions. After a few weeks, I cut down on the dosage, though, as it can cause the runs at high doses.

Multi-vitamins (most junkies don't eat too well, so this one's just for good sense).

Take a look at this link. According to this doc, you also need to add copper, phosphorus and Vitamin C to complete the dopamine, norepinephrine. You might have to do some hunting at the health food store to find the right vitamin or vitamins to supply all this stuff. I got a pretty good result from just the L-Tyrosine and B6, however.

I also understand from another contributor that zinc and magnesium help replenish and restore vital substances depleted by narcotics use.

Here's a link dedicated to L-Tyrosine ...

http://www.mindfixers.com/pathway1.html

WARNING: This same site says to avoid L-Tyrosine if you're on an SSRI (serotonin reuptake inhibitor) such as Prozac, etc.

[tryn2rson]

THANKS GUYS! I made it through the night! I fell asleep around 11:30, woke up at 12:30, took half a 5 mg Valium. Woke again around 3:30 took the other half. Slept throughout the night. A little groggy this morning, but Im up and running today. (well, not running yet). I dont feel that bad today, just that creepy crawly feeling in my legs and arms.
Im heading to the health food store today to pick up my stuff for recipe you sent me. THANKS A LOT!
I know that probably no more than I took (according to some of the posts here of 30 per day) I shouldnt be TOO bad, but thanks so much to all of you, JB, Cindi & Shea for being here for me. Hopefully in a few weeks, I will be able to give some feedback to someone new like me.
Ill keep you guys up to date!!

[jennyfla]

I wish you the best of luck getting through your withdrawal time.  You sound determined, and I have faith that you can do this for yourself!!!!
Stick close, and if you start feeling like it's all getting to be too much for us, please post, we will be here for you!!!
I admire your strength and determination!!!
Lv Jenny

[cindi]

Good luck and God bless you,,,,this is why we are here,,for each other,,,this is a great place..full of love, caring and concern and the good part is it is all real,,,,,,love to all   cin

[Jones]

I just wanted to say I have been reading about the problems of the forum friends and Dr. Steve.  I was puzzled when the Dr. answered the question of what to expect from withdrawls from adderall (adderrall), he said "it is  concievable you will crash".  What the heck kind of answer is that.

I have had almost every conceivable question about addictions answered by the people on the forum without needing to write in and ask.  I don't want to make the Dr. upset or jeopardize the forum or anything but really, what kind of answer was that, coming from a doctor?

[cindi]

LOL  Need we say more,,,,,stick around for awhile  you'll see a whole lot more when doc dan or Daniellincc hits the waves with his sarcasm and pompous ass attitude...you will get more compassion and caring along with a bunch of other good stuff from the members alone on this forum.....search the archives... check out the answer he posted re: the tone of this forum,,,,there is one memeber inparticular being targeted here who has put so much time and effort into this forum,,who has repeatedly gave us his all,  and now is being cited for it,,,,total bullshit,,,,like I said  stick around.....love to all  cin

[tryn2rson]

Hey guys!Well, it appears I made it through the worst of the withdrawels, (unless something unexpected comes up). I went to the health food store to get Thomas' recipe and the guy knew exactly what it was for and he also suggested I add GABA to this. (just a suggestion) I cant tell if it helped me or not but IM sure the rest of the recipe helped a lot.  I have been taking since Tuesday every morning . I no longer need the Valium either.  Of course my mother thinks Im going to OD on Vitamins, you know, she knew a fried of a friend who almost died.
But as you all know, it has only just begun for me. It will be a whole new lifestyle. But, I havent been getting high off the pills for quite some time. My body was getting used to the 2 per day but I just REFUSED to take any more than that.
So, as I begin my new way of life, I know that I am not alone in this and I hope I will only continue to feel better.
THANKS EVERYONE
TRYN