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wow...I'm def not alone tonite...huh
Wow, I'm seriously not alone tonite wrestling my effing perc dependancy WD's am I?! WTF is the deal with so many of our lives going straight down the crapper when we, by no choice of our own, end up in chronic effing pain, and seek relief from that pain?? You all KNOW full well what kind of excruciating, sleepless, manic, diahrrea ridden, bawling my eyes out, hold me no wait DON'T touch me kind of pure hell I'm in right now...but why are so many of us, people that just wanted a little relief from the effed up pain we were GIVEN (most so we could continue to work), here tonite, in such pure hell?! How many of you still even have a job since percocet began to rule YOUR life? Cuz I know I don't...maybe not directly an effect of bein on perc in my case, but c'mon...go to work when ya know you're outta your meds?! Ha!I know I NEED to talk tonite...I'm allll alone tonite too...since my hubby is out on the road working, to pay back a debt I lied about, to buys percs...of course cuz I HAD to merely "get thru" daily life...
how you doing tonight this usually last a few days and sometimes gets worst you still hanging in there post to let us know good luck and God bless......Gnarly
I'm glad your starting to get on the right path.. I have done so much reckless **** behind these drugs, not to mention neglected my son. This drug will steal everything out from under you and leave you on the tracks. It never gets better while your still using.
I woke up about a year ago and looked 10 years older than what I really am. Scared me, but not enough to stop. I have been tapering for the past 70 days and I still feel under the gun. I am burned out from detoxing. A few members have suggested going Cold Turkey. My suggestion would be only do this if you have NO drugs that are accessible at any time. From my own experience, you dont want to quit for 7 seven days then suddenly jump back onto the dosage you were once taking, that will kill you.
I'm only speaking as an addict with an addict mind, I'm not suggesting this is something you would do.
I woke up about a year ago and looked 10 years older than what I really am. Scared me, but not enough to stop. I have been tapering for the past 70 days and I still feel under the gun. I am burned out from detoxing. A few members have suggested going Cold Turkey. My suggestion would be only do this if you have NO drugs that are accessible at any time. From my own experience, you dont want to quit for 7 seven days then suddenly jump back onto the dosage you were once taking, that will kill you.
I'm only speaking as an addict with an addict mind, I'm not suggesting this is something you would do.
I am at day 27 clean and I am here to say there is so much difference between where I was a month ago and now. My brain is clearer, my mood better and I am not drifting my life away. My back pain is pretty non existent which is pretty remarkable in itself. Amazing what the mind will do to keep you on those little devils. I promise you if you give it time..it gets so much better. The little problems and the big ones seem to insignificant now. They were huge blocks a few weeks ago. My brain is working and I am facing those problems not ignoring them. If you celebrate them..think of Halloween bright eyed for your kids not to mention Thanksgiving and Christmas. Anyway, if you are struggling just give it one hour that turns into 12 that turns into 24 and the next day is here. I hope you do it and never look back!!!
All I can say is I'm gonna keep on keeping on...do my best to be ok with not feeling ok and just get my head back. My family deserves it and so do I. Had a little help this morning ONLY cuz I'm driving my kids...1 10mg norco is nothing compared to the perc and dilaudid I usually take in the morning so I'm def still in hell, but mind over body I can do this...I can do this...I WILL do this...
Lots of people wind up where you are when given narcotics for a pain problem. I was on a boat load of stuff. My insurance company was paying out over $3,000 a month on medications alone, never mind what they paid for the 9 surgeries, follow-up appointments, pain clinic appointments and procedures, physical therapy ... the list goes on.
Personally, I don't believe that narcotics are best for most people with chronic pain. They work best for short-term acute pain. A lot of people start out feeling like the narcotic is helping them live a better life. But as AJAP17 said, they can turn on you. You can start feeling apathetic. You often isolate. There are some people who do need narcotics for life. My doctors think I'm one of them. But I'm not comfortable being on them, and I tapered myself off a ton of medications. Right now I'm on a very low dose and I've promised both my doctor and the pain doctor that I'll stay where I'm at for the moment (as I'm having some other health issues at the moment.)
I can tell you even going from what I was on to where I'm at now that I can see and feel a difference. My head is clearer and I feel better. I still have my pain, and it's pretty bad at times, but for me, at least for now, I'd rather get off everything. There are other ways to treat pain; you just have to find what works for you.
And, like AJAP17 said, your husband doesn't hate you. It's the addiction he hates and the behaviors that go along with it. Give him a little time. You've been given good advice on what to take to feel better. I'll also mention staying hydrated. It's really important. It's easy to get dehydrated when you're in withdrawals, but it makes everything worse. Try to drink water, clear juices, Gatorade as much as you can. And keep posting; you'll get a lot of support here.
Personally, I don't believe that narcotics are best for most people with chronic pain. They work best for short-term acute pain. A lot of people start out feeling like the narcotic is helping them live a better life. But as AJAP17 said, they can turn on you. You can start feeling apathetic. You often isolate. There are some people who do need narcotics for life. My doctors think I'm one of them. But I'm not comfortable being on them, and I tapered myself off a ton of medications. Right now I'm on a very low dose and I've promised both my doctor and the pain doctor that I'll stay where I'm at for the moment (as I'm having some other health issues at the moment.)
I can tell you even going from what I was on to where I'm at now that I can see and feel a difference. My head is clearer and I feel better. I still have my pain, and it's pretty bad at times, but for me, at least for now, I'd rather get off everything. There are other ways to treat pain; you just have to find what works for you.
And, like AJAP17 said, your husband doesn't hate you. It's the addiction he hates and the behaviors that go along with it. Give him a little time. You've been given good advice on what to take to feel better. I'll also mention staying hydrated. It's really important. It's easy to get dehydrated when you're in withdrawals, but it makes everything worse. Try to drink water, clear juices, Gatorade as much as you can. And keep posting; you'll get a lot of support here.
Took a little neurontin, got some sleep. Up n getting kids ready for school. God help me drive them in. Today is the first day of the rest of my life and I'm gonna do my best. I'm gonna need a lot of help and crap I'm not lookin forward to it. BUT I will do it because I need to.
HI WELCOME to the forum glad you found your way here right now your in whats called acute withdrawals or in the middle of a mess this is very doable from home you just need to know a few things to help you threw the first is this is all about attitude a positive attitude will get you farther then any one thing it means the difference between suffering or discomfort ....this is 1/3 physical and 2/3 mental I truly believe its a battle one or last in ones own mind
get comfortable with the saying...''you just got to be ok without being ok fir a wile'' this to shall pass with time remember your symptoms are only temporary in 4 or 5 days you will feel much better right now tonight a hot soak goes a long way in releaving symptoms try it....sleep will be impossible so just roll up in a blanket on the couch and watch the tube
keep posting for support its a little slow at night but if you check it every hr or so you should see some responces just depends on the night hang in there you can do this we do these detoxes every day here your going to be fine good luck and God bless......Gnarly
get comfortable with the saying...''you just got to be ok without being ok fir a wile'' this to shall pass with time remember your symptoms are only temporary in 4 or 5 days you will feel much better right now tonight a hot soak goes a long way in releaving symptoms try it....sleep will be impossible so just roll up in a blanket on the couch and watch the tube
keep posting for support its a little slow at night but if you check it every hr or so you should see some responces just depends on the night hang in there you can do this we do these detoxes every day here your going to be fine good luck and God bless......Gnarly
Well, it could be worse, believe it or not. What if your doc put you on Oxycontin instead? Percs are dirt cheap in comparison. When I was at my peak oxy dosage, they were billing my insurance co. over $1000.00 a month.
The street value is or was about 4 times that if you had to score them on the street. Maybe even more. That is at $20 a 40mg pill, and I've heard that they sell for as much as $65 in remote communities (everything is remote where I live as far as I'm concerned, LoL)
It's hard for me to even imagine how people without scripts manage to keep themselves supplied when they get into high doses. I guess it's not as much as a problem in the lower states and Floriduh, I heard they are much cheaper down there. But then again, I know nothing about buying drugs off the street, I wouldn't know who or how, or how and who to get them from. I'd probably ask a cop, and end up buying a lawyer instead... Wait! That's where a person would go to find illegal prescription drugs, ask the lawyer! LoL
Here I am rambling about silliness when you have a problem to adress!
Are you using Imodium? That will help a lot with the explosive bowel issue, as well as the other WD symptoms.
As long as you aren't on any SSRI like prozac, a 5htp amino acid supplement will help with the mood swings- anger, sadness, depression happy, anxiety from one second to the next thing. It helps boost your serotonin levels, which cause a lot of those problems.
Opiates block your body's serotonin neurotransmitters and take over, so when you stop the opiate, those neurotransmitters have gone dormant and died off. They need time to regrow and repopulate in sufficient numbers to be able to supply and regulate those levels again and make you feel "normal" like you once did before you ever took an opiate.
Serotonin as do all other neurotransmitters, control how you process thoughts, physical pain, touch, smell etc. when all those levels are normal and in balance, when you have a happy stimuli, such as when your husband brings you a bunch off flowers after work, "just because", you naturally feel happy, and all the associated mushy stuff.
But, if your serotonin and other chemistry is depleted and out of balance, it could trigger an exact opposite response, anger, sadness etc. (unless he's a dog, and you know he's bringing flowers because he feels guilty for cheating on you, and which case anger would be a normal response also, LoL)
Anyways, I hope that explains somewhat of why you feel the way you do.
5htp will help raise serotonin levels, and help you feel more "normal"
L-tyrosine will help with energy, and L-Glutamine, besides being a very important nutrient that is essential for all neurotransmitter production, also helps will GABA production, which is important for controlling relaxation.
There are other amino acid supplements you may find useful as well, which you can find at the "amino acid protocol page here: http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/Addiction/Amino-Acid-Protocol/show/15?cid=66
I hope this helps, should make quitting much more tolerable for you.
The street value is or was about 4 times that if you had to score them on the street. Maybe even more. That is at $20 a 40mg pill, and I've heard that they sell for as much as $65 in remote communities (everything is remote where I live as far as I'm concerned, LoL)
It's hard for me to even imagine how people without scripts manage to keep themselves supplied when they get into high doses. I guess it's not as much as a problem in the lower states and Floriduh, I heard they are much cheaper down there. But then again, I know nothing about buying drugs off the street, I wouldn't know who or how, or how and who to get them from. I'd probably ask a cop, and end up buying a lawyer instead... Wait! That's where a person would go to find illegal prescription drugs, ask the lawyer! LoL
Here I am rambling about silliness when you have a problem to adress!
Are you using Imodium? That will help a lot with the explosive bowel issue, as well as the other WD symptoms.
As long as you aren't on any SSRI like prozac, a 5htp amino acid supplement will help with the mood swings- anger, sadness, depression happy, anxiety from one second to the next thing. It helps boost your serotonin levels, which cause a lot of those problems.
Opiates block your body's serotonin neurotransmitters and take over, so when you stop the opiate, those neurotransmitters have gone dormant and died off. They need time to regrow and repopulate in sufficient numbers to be able to supply and regulate those levels again and make you feel "normal" like you once did before you ever took an opiate.
Serotonin as do all other neurotransmitters, control how you process thoughts, physical pain, touch, smell etc. when all those levels are normal and in balance, when you have a happy stimuli, such as when your husband brings you a bunch off flowers after work, "just because", you naturally feel happy, and all the associated mushy stuff.
But, if your serotonin and other chemistry is depleted and out of balance, it could trigger an exact opposite response, anger, sadness etc. (unless he's a dog, and you know he's bringing flowers because he feels guilty for cheating on you, and which case anger would be a normal response also, LoL)
Anyways, I hope that explains somewhat of why you feel the way you do.
5htp will help raise serotonin levels, and help you feel more "normal"
L-tyrosine will help with energy, and L-Glutamine, besides being a very important nutrient that is essential for all neurotransmitter production, also helps will GABA production, which is important for controlling relaxation.
There are other amino acid supplements you may find useful as well, which you can find at the "amino acid protocol page here: http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/Addiction/Amino-Acid-Protocol/show/15?cid=66
I hope this helps, should make quitting much more tolerable for you.
your husband doesn't hate you...he hates the addiction and what is forces you and him to do...in rehab they tailored a taper for me and watched my vitals every 3 hours...I felt safe and most of all I couldn't go to the cabinet and get my drug...they control your dosage etc...I felt that was best for me as I did not want to be able to give in...
Yeah..sounds about right. This is really fricken painful and the mental torture is killing me. Doesn't help that I totally screwed up and made my husband hate me tonite. What did they give you in rehab in the beginning? I'm really scared of tonite, doing tbhis w nothing to help..its maddening
I felt that way too...but, the drug "turned" on me...always boosting dosage to feel better etc...I was in my own world...I locked out my wife most of the time and created this false reality...it's going to be up to you...it's a choice...it's rough (days 1 to 7 or so)...but you will never look back once you get some days clean under your belt...
That's the problem....when I have my meds, life is great, beyond great. And I never really got to feel that way before my drs satarted me on the narcotics. When I have them its like the little things are so much more enjoyable..I don't know, my head is so effed right now. I really don't wanna be alone
when I got here I was surprised too...so many of us...listen...I did it...it was rough but now (after a 7 days in a rehab) followed by 15 days clean I can tell you it gets better every day...I was on Opana round the clock for 2 years...never straight...now...being straight and looking at the clouds, birds, etc is like being a newborn...do this...you deserve a life...Tony
And of course he hates me cuz well I lied...dumb ***...all cuz my dr put me on percs. Wow...I'm not convinced I can handle this low...this is a hell that you have GOT to have gone thru to understand huh?
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