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zyban
by Davo, Sep 28, 2002 12:00AM
In July I stopped chewing tobacco with the help of Zyban. I have not had either since the end og July 2002. Ever since then I have been very angery and not happy with anything in life. I cannot place a reason on it. I am mean to people for no reason. I have read that unhappiness is a side effect of Zyban. What are the ways to see if this is what is effecting me? Or see if it is something else?
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It _could_ be because of stopping the Wellbutrin (Zyban) abruptly. At low dosages (300 mg/day over 3 months) it shouldnt really happen.
Wellbutrin is an anti-depressant. It may be youre slightly depressed at the moment because the wellbutrin was keeping your "happiness" level up for your brain and now that youre not taking it its not. Your brain just needs to get used to balancing its "happiness" level on its own again.
Its used as a stop smoking aid but I think docs should make more info known about possible side effects and/or w/d symptoms.
DM
This is just my opinion. I probably know the least about pharmacology, but I do have some chem. backround.
To me, the way the receptors are formed and the bond that is made is pretty cool. The thing that interests me the most is the agonists/antagonists of different meds. As well as their chemical properties. Like Serge said earlier, L-Tyrosine is 2 atoms different from dopamine.
This is why I am going to give the Gaba a try. Its antagonists include baclofen and a few others.
Anyways, just my rambling take on it,
Chezz
I WILL reply and have a Dialogue with you on ANY subject. As an "Old timer" here on this board, I try to focus on those posters that seem to need the most help at the time. I misjudged you. You have been SO STRONG and helpful here that I'd just figured you for another "Oldtimer" who crossed over to THIS particular board! I didn't see the "Fire through the forest" so to speak, in your posts. You haven't been outwardly "Needy" (so to speak) Most of us here try reaching out towards those who OBVIOUSLY are calling out for immediate help.
You are an intellegent and powerfulu presence here, and you are needed as a "Young oldtimer"! We need non-opiate addicts here more than you can imagine... I came here as an Alcoholic and got REALLY MAD that nobody replied to me at first because I wasn't a herion addict or something.....
Anyway,
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WRITE ME, DAMMIT!!
WE NEED YOU!
Jess
pon
Today is fine. Just watching T.V. and relaxing with the wife.
Woke up with a real stiff back, even though I slept with a heating pad. Pain is fine. Don't care for meds.
Pretty much going on with daily life. Just not doing as much.
Tomorrow will be better, same with the next. I am sure I will be fine, back to normal in a week. You can't just let it get you down. I am movin' on.
Eat, walk, keep positive. Its what I am sticking to.
Chezz
Hope you are doing fine~Which I am sure you are.
pon
I have been out helping the wife with the yard work. Then she had a GREAT idea to wash all the cars. She is freeeekin crazy.
Anyways I went out and washed them all with her. Pretty nice day out too.
Getting ready to relax and watch some t.v.
How are you GBear?
The key is keeping positive as well as active. Like my wife and I were talking about. My back hurts WORSE when I don't do anything all day and dwell on the w/d's.
Of course I don't feel 100%. I'm not supposed to. But I won't let it get me down. The sooner you WANT to recover the sooner you WILL.
Hope everyone else is doing alright...
Chezzz
Like you I stayed busy with my wife and son today. Actually washed our cars too. More of a water fight than anything else.
I feel like absolute ****, but this is not going to be any walk in the park. I have stuck to the recipe combined with Gaba, Milk Thistle, klonopin and lots of hot tubbing. I dumped the Ambien based on many people advising against it. I have puffed a couple of times today too. Last night I diddn't sleep very much. I expected to feel much worse than I do right now. You have given me the idea to look beyond the WD and recognize my mind has the ultimate control over how bad my WD becomes. I know the worse is yet to come. I don't have to be back to work until a week from tomorrow, so I have time to let the WD run its course. I really hope you have your strength and can move forward in getting clean. You are one of many that has really inspired me to go for it. I'll check back a few times before I go to bed.
Goldenbear
Like I said before. This is way way more than just quiting meds. Complete Sobriety is my goal. Set you sights high and move past this.
Otherwise you will puff alittle now, then you will go to drinking in a few months. Then you stop drinking and start puffing again. Then you get hurt and are back on the meds.....
See the Cycle.
I just wanna be free,
Chezz
Chezz keep up the great work. I for one am rooting for your success.
Goldenbear
PON
Personally, I have not had any cravings. I guess its mind over matter sometimes. I think when you are ready, when you want it bad enough, your mind will overcome and heal.
I guess I am lucky I have never gone more than 6-7 months on meds and always got it from the same doc(very controlled).
But I have issues in the addiction department as a whole. I have realized this, luckily. I don't want to be bouncing around on something or another for the rest of my life.
To be completely sober is divine,
Chezz
You ARE right. I am busy as f%$# dealing with this. I also try and answer everyone. But I can't.
I read every post. From V. gurl to groovy, to hellbent, DB, EVERYONE.
I just can't do it all. You have to get in here and write. Let us know what is up INSIDE. I can tell you to stop all day long...but you have to WANT it. That means getting involved.
I have put my life on the line for all of you to read. I have bared my soul. I did this because this is the only way I could find my path. I also read this forum for 3 weeks before I ever posted. Then I made 2 posts. A couple people had some shitty answers, and that was it. I didn't post for awhile. It sucked, I know how it feels.
DB I do want to help. I want to hear you plight.
When I got involved is when it worked for me,
Chezz
pon
I was given this link by my sister who is a psychologist for family crisis intervention, because I am interested in adopting a baby, either retarded or born from a parent on drugs; but it looks like I might be creating a whole set of problems for myself.
I was a smoker for 20 years. Two months ago I started Zyban and have been good about not smoking, I have cheated only a few times. I have trouble at my three month marker, that's usually whan I go back to smoking. I have tried to quit smoking too many times to count, and this is my first attempt to quit while using Zyban.
From the comments on this site, I am getting worried that maybe I made a mistake...giving up one evil for another, you know. The Zyban I have been taking is only 150 mg and I take one twice a day (the first one at 7 am, and the other at about 5 pm). I am generally a very happy person, even before the Zyban. When I quit the Zyban in two more months, will I, too, be unsatisfied and unhappy? Does everyone have this reaction? Is there anyone out there that has quit smoking successfully while using Zyban, and was success at quiting the Zyban?
I did quit for 1 year.I did start back but that's a whole nother topic.I took it for 8 months and when it was time to stop it,I decreased from 2 aday to 1 aday.Then 1 everyother day.Then stopped after 2 weeks with very little problem.
My mother smoked for 40 years and started Zyban and stopped smoking and stopped the Zyban after 3 months with no problems at all.In my opinion it is all psycological with zyban(Wellbutrin).
It is being used for drug addiction with get success.If you have
any problems you should take with the doctor that gave it to you.
The reason I replied to your post is that just lastnight I had
a conversation with my mother about this.I wanted to know if she had any complications from stopping the Zyban.She said for a couple of days she felt a little tried but no mental withdrawals at all.I guess it's all personal for each person.I wish I had stayed stopped,but didn't have the will to do it.I beat a drug addiction but failed in my attempt to stop smoking.The mind is a strange thing.Keep up the good work.Smoking is very bad for you and the longer you stayed stopped the more the body repairs itself.And again welcome to this forum!!!!!
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