Hi my name is Mike, im 30, and have two beautiful children ( a newborn baby boy and 11 year old daughter). I have been on suboxone for about 2 years now 8mg a day ( half in morning half at night) , and klodipin 1mg once or twice a day. I recently decided enuff is enuff with the suboxone, and decided a couple days ago to ween myself off. My question is: My new doctor just took me off the klodipin's 2 days ago, because I get really bad panic, and anxiety attacks more then 3 times a day. He feels that putting me on Paxil ( 25mg CR) is better for me. I was on Paxil about 4 years ago and decided a to get off a couple years after, so I know it takes about 2 weeks to start working. In the mean time I'm still getting panic attacks through the course of the day, and don't have my klodipin's anymore. I have a weeks supply of 5mg Valium's. Is it ok if I take the Paxil in the morning when I wake up, my suboxone at around noon, and if I start feeling a panic attack can I take a half of the 5mg Valium when needed, cause sometimes I need one later on in the day? My main goal is to just be on the Paxil. In 2004 I got into a really bad car accident, fractured my skull, and now have a metal plate in my head. When I got out of the hospital I was prescribed extra strength vicodin's , and I got hooked, that's how I ended up on the suboxone. Thank you for taking the time to read this, have a great week. Hopefully I'll be ok mixing the 3 Valium, suboxone, and Paxil? I only plan to take the Valium for a week maybe 2 weeks, until I feel the Paxil starting to work.
You have a reasonable plan there. I understand your doctor's plan as well, but you need to be discussing this together. I really applaud your decision to get off of the Suboxone, but you must understand how difficult it may be to do it. We have detoxed many people from this devious drug. Many find it harder to quit Suboxone than Oxys or Heroin. The trick is to remember that when they started using buprenorphine (the opiate part of Suboxone) in Europe as a pain medication they were using 50 to 100 mcg not mg. Yes, one tenth of a milligram was the dose. So, when you taper it down, really titrate it, down to as little as possible before you completely quit. Some will even dilute it and use a pipette the last few days. Valium will be very helpful to you during the withdrawal, so would have been the clonazepam. That is why I suggest that you talk to your doctor and explain what your goal is and maybe instead of making it more difficult by taking the benzo away, he will give it to you for just a little longer. Paxil is a terrific idea to start now, because you are going to need the serotonin boost, while your brain heals and learns how to make its own endorphins again. It will all take awhile to happen so hang in there. You have a lot to live for. Try to take long walks with your daughter and son, laugh and smile as much as you can, eat healthy, stay hydrated, take vitamins. Keep me updated, I am here for you. Good luck and stay well.
Thank you so much for tour response back. I had tears in my eyes while I was reading what you wrote. I am on my fourth day of taking the Paxil, the first two days I felt like a million bucks, but I'm starting to feel a little anxious again here and there. I'm still tapering off the suboxone ( 2mg in morning and 2nd at night for about 6 days now). I still have to take a Valium here n there for the panic episodes. I'm on 25mg CR of the Paxil and am thinking about going back to my prior MD to boost me up to the 37mg. My wife and I are living with my parents with the baby, and I have joint custody of my daughter so she comes over bi- weekly on the weekends. My parents are obsessed with my daughter, especially my mother. They try to control the whole situation when it comes to my daughter causing me nothing but stress. My daughters mother dislikes my parents, and they are court ordered that they are not allowed to interfere with her medical or school. They are not allowed to pick her up or drop her off at school or to her moms. They are not bad people, but her mom got mad that they where to much in her business so she stopped them from doing certain things. My wife and I are in a really tuff spot because we are both unemployed, and stuck living in my parents house till I find a good job. It's hard because I only have a highschool diploma. My parents support me with a little bit of money to get by everyday for food and stuff, but they try to control me by yelling at me if they don't get there way. I cant take the verbal abuse anymore, but I am 30 years old so I'm in an awkward situation. All of this nonsense cause me to be stressed out and panic when I get overwhelmed. For example, they want me to take my daughters mother back to court for me to get more visitation days, and for them to be able to pick her up from home and school or drop her off. I have no problem with seeing my daughter more, but it's the other things they think they have rights to. So basically if I don't take my daughters mother to court they'll threaten to kick my wife, me, and the baby out, or cut me off with money. I mean I don't think they would kick us to the street, but all the yelling and verbal abuse I get when they don't get there own way is destroying me..... It took it's toll and ive had it. I can't take the stress and abuse and more! It's not physical abuse, only verbal, but I swear verbal is worse. It's funny how my parents will act like the nicest people in the world on a Monday and on Tuesday there mean. They have all family and friends thinks that they are the nicest people, and blame everything on me, but nobody see's what goes on behind closed doors. My parents own a breakfast and lunch resterant and won't employ me, they will tell people that I don't want to work which is not true at all. So whe ln I seek help from a family member or family friend, nobody will help. My parents have the means to help me but I'm 100% sure that my mother won't help me because she thinks once I move out she won't get to see my daughter. I've explained to them numorous times that they can see her whenever they like, and that is not the case. When I was a teenager I used to have my own disc jockey business . When I was 19 I wasn't thinking right and sold my equipment. All though the equipment would be out dated today, djing is basically my only job skill and work history, besides them letting me help out at the resterant a few times, but they would never let me advance from a toast butterer. My job problem could be resolved if they would loan me the money for the dj equipment , in which I could pay them back monthly for but they don't want to hear it. Because they know that would get me ahead, and my wife and I would be able to move out into our own place. Sorry for the long message, I just wanted to give you some sort of idea where all my stress and anxiety is coming from. Thank you again for your time. :-)
I hope you will allow me to give you a little motherly advice, since I am a mother and I have children your age. Your parents want you to succeed. Being a DJ is not a long term goal or a profession any more. You need to start to take classes in a community college. They are cheap if not free for someone in your situation. You must have an education in this day and age. Choose something you like to do, technical or medical or business maybe. If you do business administration, your parents will be able to use you in the future to run the restaurant. But they must see that you are doing something productive and not just looking for excuses. Find a simple job, even flipping burgers in the time you are not taking classes. Show your parents that your are staying busy, making money and moving forward in life. They will respect that. Trust me. Good luck to you and your family.
Thanks for the advice your the best! That's a great idea, I'm going to start looking into a couple community colleges to see what they can offer financially, and programs that intreats me. It's time to move forward, I'm only holding myself back. Once I get on a regular schedule every day, I'm pretty sure my anxiety will hopefully go away. Keeping the mind busy is key. Thanks again ttys :-)
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