DOCTOR, I NEED YOUR HELP.

[nicky54]

nicky54Doctor,
Happy New year i had written you a while back but did not get my questions answered as possibly i was not specific enough.I live in South America and the help here is somewhat limited and yes this is a somewhat third world country meaning they do not have certain types of withdrawal medications available here as they do in the states and i do not have the funds even if i could do go to a rehab. Iam 60 yrs years with type two diabetes and suffer from drug addiction.I do not have any heart condition although i smoke and have some edema in my legs and i could be wrong but i believe that is due to my smoking and the methadone i recently {past 7 months got off of on my own at home with Kratom because i had no other options.For the last 5 months or so i got hooked on about 180-200 mgs of short acting oxycodone{not Oxycontin} There is no Tylenol in it just straight Oxycodone and i have to take it every 6 hrs or i suffer withdrawals.I am tired and want to stop.These are the medications i have available to me at home. Clonidine 150 mcgs, Plenty of 10 mgs of methadose not methadone.First thing i wanted to know is how long based on my time using and amount taken will i go through withdrawals where i will not suffer that much. Next i made a decision to use the methadose for about 5.7 days to get off the oxycodone. Can i use it without having any big problems and getting re addicted to the methadone as long as i stick to my guns and stop right away. I used to take some clonidine with the
methadose and when i was down to 10 mgs after 4 yrs i took Kratom and i made it through the withdrawals with minimal problems.In your opinion and i hold you harmless of any and everything what dose of methadose should i start with to get off the 200 mgs of oxycodone,then the next day dose and so on and so on for how many days until i would be somewhat OK and not get hooked on the methadose. i have plenty of Kratom and as i said it took me off four yrs of methadone but i managed to stay on only 20 mgs for the whole 4 yrs Please i have no help no advice and i am pleading for some answers here as i am very serious about stopping.Again i have no doctors or people to help me and i regret the mistakes i made starting the oxy?s. I was totally clean for 17 yrs and have been using different opiates  on and off for 9 yrs now.. Can you give me a plan to work with as i do not want to die and that?s the bottom line.!! Please help me with some advice as i think i know what to do, but am far from sure! I will await your reply.

Thank You,

nicky54

[nicky54]

I was not giving you an attitude.iwas clean for almost 20 yrs so i guess i did something right. They have NA and AA here, i have an english speaking sponsor but no one at the meetings has my problem or had my problem.Where i live the only three main abuse culprits are alcohol, weed and Bazuco which is like crack cocaine  but allot worse.In any case what i don´t understand is if you have had my problem before why didn´t you share with me how you got off or your stuff if it was the same as mine as i was i using. 200 mgs of oxycodone{short acting instant t release. Anyway you do not have to explain yourself nor give any advice or help. Iam very happy for you that you´re 6 months clean and jeep up the good work. I have gone from 200 mgs down to about 60 mgs but i have thrown some methadone into the mix to help me lower my dose and i have quite a bit of experience with that as well and i am worried that i am heading in the wrong direction with that.I have experience with all drugs unfortunately ,but not with a horrible oxycodone habit like i have now.Sorry that i took you the wrong way.You sounded like an opinionated individual ,not an addict that really wants to help another.In any case we both know that´s what this is all about.

Take care and good luck,

[bahamamama13165]

I'm not sure why you are giving me attitude. I was trying to help you. Thinking maybe if you rephrased your question the doctor might answer you. Yes, I have been in your shoes. I'm an addict.. 6 months clean. I have been clean before and relapsed. I know how horrible addiction is and how hard it is to quit. I have also been a member of this site for years and have tried to give other addicts advice on getting clean. That's why I know it is not allowed to give a dose down schedule. I think it's a stupid rule but whatever. I thought that was what you were asking for and I was trying to explain to you why your question might not have been answered. Maybe you should seek out a local AA meeting. I know alcohol isn't your DOC but AA is everywhere.  And you might find some support with addiction in your town.  Good luck.

[nicky54]

Well then ,let me ask you a question. Are you an addict or have you suffered from addiction? Have you been in my shoes before? If you have as you can see iam looking for help.If i had the resources where i live, i would use them ,but i honestly don´t.! If you have been in my shoes i need help not if someone can give dosing schedules .I myself have plenty of answers better than a doctor in many situations but this is my first with this. problem and i want it to be my last.There was some one here that gave me excellent advice and iam so grateful to that person.I am waiting to hear from  them again as i have taken steps to lower my dose and i have significantly but in doing so i might be creating additional problems for myself .I see nothing here that stresses any restrictions on what one can do if they want to help another! Certainly i would hope not.It does say ¨¨MED HELP¨¨

[nicky54]

Thank You,

You the only person that was smart enough and sharp enough to give some advice.I live in the country of Colombia and i am married here and am having a horrible time in  my life and i blame no one but myself.This is far from my first rodeo with all of this crap from  heroin to methadone and everything in between. I was also on subs for 2 yrs and had a tough time getting off of that and heroin at the same time period but of course not the same time. I was taking subutex anyway..I think i already made a mess of my detox.here´s what i have been doing and it´s been the same for about 5 days now and iam scared and have no idea what i am doing. Now iam afraid iam going to get hooked on the methadone and I DO NOT WANT THAT BUT I THINK WITH YOUR HELP I CAN FIX THE DAMAGE. I HAVE BEEN TAKING IN THE MORNING ABOUT 10--12 MGS OF METHADONE AND THEN LATER ON BETWEEN 60-80 MGS OF SHORT ACTING OXYCODONE {NOT OXYCONTIN !} I WAS ON  200 MGS OF THE OXYCODONE SOI THERE´S A BIG IMPROVEMENT THERE. I HAVE PLENTY OF CLONIDINE AT HOME THEY ARE 150 MCGS. LITTLE TABLETS. 150 MICROGRAQMS. I THINK STANDARD THAT´S HOW THEY COME. I HAVE NEVER HAD A OXYCODONE HABIT BEFORE{1ST TIME} AND IT IS HELL. PLEASE HELP ME. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD DO NOW TO FIX THE DAMAGE I CAUSED MYSELF STEP BY STEP. I HAVE THE CLONIDINE AND ABOUT 25 10 MG METHADONE PILLS. WHAT SHOULD I DO. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN TALK OR SEND EMAILS TO ONE ANOTHER IF NOT I UNDERSTAND AND WE CAN KEEP IN TOUCH HERE.. I NEED SOME DAMAGE CONTROL AND CORRECT THIS DETOX.  PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP IF YOU CAN.

THANK YOU,

__SCOTT.

[aled24fl]

I have been thru thus before maybe i could help, i have used clondine and suboxone for my withdrawls and the ways that i did it was on day 1 i took a whole sub and 1 clondine then on day 2 i did half a sub and a clondine then day 3 i did a quarter of a sub and a clondine and on day 4&5 i did a quarter of a sub and a clondine and on the 6th day i was good with NO withdrawls systems but it took a month and a half toget back to my old self but like i said i didnt feel no withdrawls systems after day 6... I hope this helps and good luck....

Ps
You can use methadose instead of suboxone it works also.....

[bahamamama13165]

I don't think this website allows anyone to give you a taper down schedule. Doing so without a doctor watching out for you could be dangerous. I hope the online doctor will answer your post with some advice though.