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Addiction (Expert Forum)
Roxicet Taper - Please help
Answered by
Jeffrey T Junig, MD PhD - Psychiatry, Addictions, Chronic Pain Treatment, Anesthesiology, Buprenorphine
Fond du Lac Psychiatry
Fond du Lac - WI
Questions in the Addiction forum are answered by a medical expert.
Roxicet Taper - Please help
by fredsfortune, Aug 04, 2009 01:05PM
I am currently snorting 8 30mg's of Roxicet per day. I also take about 9 10/650 loricet mixed in. I want to quit and don't want to do Suboxone again. I have a supplier and access to him so I can go as slow as needed. Please provide a taper schedule that will allow me to work through it. No one knows about addiction and can't go to clinic or through serious withdrawals. Is that even possible?
In the meantime I have started to try to take 1/2 roxicet and swallow other half. I am doing that every 1.5 hrs at a minimum and am going to try to stretch out the time inbetween doses.
Thank you for your help. Please let me know if you are a doctor or just offering advice based on personal experience or both I guess.
In the meantime I have started to try to take 1/2 roxicet and swallow other half. I am doing that every 1.5 hrs at a minimum and am going to try to stretch out the time inbetween doses.
Thank you for your help. Please let me know if you are a doctor or just offering advice based on personal experience or both I guess.
Doctor's Answer
by Jeffrey T Junig, MD PhD, Aug 09, 2009 09:00PM
, Aug 09, 2009 09:00PM
I have been an opiate addict for 16 years, and a doctor for about 20 years. I never really looked at it that way before... but from BOTH perspectives you won't like my answer.... which is that except for maybe one in a million people, tapers such as the one you are planning do not accomplish anything even in the rare times that the person sticks with them. Every opiate addict knows of those 'great plans' to do great things... just as soon as THIS dose wears off. And if you had the ability to taper the medication, you would not be snorting 240 mg of OC every day (plus more mixed in). In my experience as an addict, a doctor, and as a friend of addicts, I have seen enough examples of what we all do to know what works and what doesn't. People taper down to a certain level, and then realize that now that they have lowered their tolerance, they will get a GREAT buzz... better than what he used to get... and it is bye bye, taper.
But even when a person does do a taper, so what? his/her relapse rate is extremely high. and so opiate dependence becomes a constant state of sickness, as you are constantly tapering, constanty aware of how crappy you feel... ick. As I already wrote once tonight, consider handing it over and doing it right-- and entering a treatment ceter, and following all the rules. If you are lucky and your work very hard, it might work!
But even when a person does do a taper, so what? his/her relapse rate is extremely high. and so opiate dependence becomes a constant state of sickness, as you are constantly tapering, constanty aware of how crappy you feel... ick. As I already wrote once tonight, consider handing it over and doing it right-- and entering a treatment ceter, and following all the rules. If you are lucky and your work very hard, it might work!
Member Comments (1)
by Roooster, Nov 01, 2009 08:05AM
A related discussion, RESPONSE TO DOC ON "just enter rehab" was started.
