Thank you very much for the reply. I think in this case it is as you say about the REM sleep, as before the opiate taper he would go days sometime with no sleep, and then it would just crash completely, standing up, eating whereever, and during this time he becomes confused and hallucinates. He talks about stuff which make no sense to me at all, but make perfect sense to him, and he has sometimes told me the next morning that he believes he was dreaming, even though to me he seemed awake still!!
This being the case, what can I do to help, how best should I deal with this as when he gets like this he doesn't know what he is saying, becomes impossible to deal with, and is too stubborn to actually go to bed.
He is actually a fast metabolizer, and the doctors have mentioned this to him too, as it actually takes a lot more tablets to sedate him than it does me.
Do you have any suggestions as to how he can help with the oxycontin withdrawal symptons as well? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Many thanks.
Karen
There are a couple things to consider. The sedation is particularly unusual, since patients tapering down opioid medications usually feel agitated and have trouble sleeping.
In most people, the doses of amitriptyline that you mention would be relatively low, but about 10% of the caucasian population, and a higher percentage of African Americans, are 'slow metabolizers' of tricyclics including amitriptyline. The first order of business is to check the blood level of amitriptyline and nortriptyline, the first breakdown product. In most people on such a low dose it would be extremely low , but in slow metabolizers it could be quite high, even toxic. The metabolism of amitriptyline is also slowed by many medications, including prozac and tagamet.
High levels of amitriptyline and nortriptyline would cause dry mouth, confusion, sedation, seizures, delirium... also difficulty passing urine in men. treatment is to stop the medication, or in emergencies to use a drug called 'physostigmine'.
If this is not the cause, and there are some things that are not consistent with this as the cause, there are some other possibilities. You mention that he became confused even before the amitriptyline... one scenario: the opiate taper prevented sleep for several days; the loss of sleep can cause REM sleep and dreaming to eventually intrude on wakefulness, causing hallucinations and confusion. Maybe that happened first, and then the amitriptyline had the effect above.
If the amitriptyline is not what is keeping him so sedated now, I am not sure what else might be doing it given what you have mentioned. There would have to be something else going on-- does he take any other sedatives?
For the sake of figuring things out I recommend checking a level as above, and THEN stopping the amitriptyline. If he is a slow metabolizer it may take a few days for the effects to wear off. If he is still sleepy and confused after a few days, he would need a good work-up including a physical, labs, and maybe a sleep study to rule out sleep apnea-- which prevents the deep stages of sleep and leaves the person sleeping lightly all the time.
JJ