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has anyone here taken Insinase for sugar cravings?
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has anyone here taken Insinase for sugar cravings?

hi, my naturopath has suggested I take this supplement and I'd like to hear from anyone else who might have tried it?

I'm not diabetic. I'm hypothyroid and was struggling with sugar cravings. I'm craving less now but dont know if that's because of the Insinase or just because I finally found some will  power!  
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I have never heard of this. Will check it out though, as I am hypothyroid too.
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It appears this is something that only benefits people who are diabetic to improve insulin sensitivity.  Diabetics are usually "insulin resistant" and this help the cells absorb insulin more easily. It is normally used in place of, or with a well known drug for diabetics, I do not see where it would help with your sugar cravings.
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I also have hypothyroidism, but have never craved sweets, and after 3 months on your Synthroid, your thyroid levels are back in range, and you should not be having any symptoms from it.
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thanks Mammo - I thought it looked more suitable for someone with diabetes,I'm still not sure whether I should carry on taking it or not. I've had sugar cravings my entire life, they have just been worse in the last few months while I've been so tired with the hypothyroid, sugar seems to give me an energy boost and I've been a bit hooked on it since I was a kid, tryiing my best to break the habit now.

I've been on Synthroid since last August but my doctor is still trying to get my dose right, I started on 50mcg, went up to 75 in November and am now on 100mcg (since Jan). I'm still symptomatic but not as bad as I was and hope to be back to normal soon.

how are you with your hypothyroid? would you say you are as well and energetic as you were before you got ill?

I am off work at the moment and scared incase I am never well enough to get my career back on track. it's so good to hear how thinghs have panned out for other people.
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You might want to check the iodine thread in the Complementary Medicine forum archives.  Describes the experiences of a lot of people with thyroid problems.  For many people hypothyroid traces to an iodine deficiency, and is often treated with high iodine seaweeds such as kelp and bladderwrack.  The downside of being on synthroid is that eventually your thyroid may simply cease to be able to function; that's not a tragedy as the synthroid can be adjusted to compensate, but it's always nice to save an organ if its possible.  Anyway, the people on that thread have more personal experience than I do, and I'm just suggesting it as something that might help.  Good luck whatever you do.  
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thanks Paxiled, I've been warned off iodine by various sources as my hypothyroid is caused by an autoimmune disease rather than iodine deficiency and apparently iodine supplements can cause the autoimmune thing to get worse somehow. I will have a look at that thread though. It's so useful to hear other people's experiences.

I've just gone through a process with my naturopath where I realised she doesn't actually know as much as I thought she did/isn't as qualifed as i had (blindly) assumed she was. So I'm stopping seeing her and not renewing any of the supplements she's had me on when I finish the bottles. Not sure what to do next complementary medicine wise. I'm sure there are supplements that will help but it's difficult to know what the best ones are for me.  Am tryng to educate myself as much as possible.

thanks for your suggestion and kind wishes. it means a lot that people care.
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Hi, yes I feel very good, lots of energy (sometimes too much).  Mine must not have been as bad as yours though, because even at my worst I was still very active and walked 6+ miles a day and still do.  Has your endo checked out everything in your endocrine system to make sure it's just not your thyroid?  Adrenal fatigue will cause carbohydrate cravings.  I would ask your Endo to make sure your entire doctrine system is okay, as it impacts every major organ in our bodies, and if one small thing is off, it has a domino effect.  Take care...
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People who are hypothyroid are often also hypoglycemic. I am both. The treatment for the latter is to stay away from sugar. Hypoglycemics (if you are one) are best of with several small meals,  instead of three large ones. When I get a craving I will go for protein (I keep boiled shrimp in the refrigerator).
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thanks both

my doctor has not wanted to check my adrenal function, I don't know why. I see her again on 18th feb and will ask more about this. I read somewhere that the treatment for under functioning adrenals is not very nice and can give you "moon face", I need to find out more about this.

I think I am a bit hypoglycemic if not officially so, in that I am very sensitive to sugar. I have managed to not eat any for 8 days now and intend to continue this, good news is my cravings seem very reduced. I eat 3 meals a day and ensure I have a healthy snack if I get even a tiny bit hungry, that seems to be working for me at the moment.

I took the whole bottle of insinase and it's now finished.
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I have found the same I get some sugar cravings and give in ...but I am learning I feel better if I eat protein and get busy forgetting about the sweet cravings ..LOL I am pre diabetic ,they say but not certain if I am ....Maybe I will try the insinase ,
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well, l do seem to have managed to break the sugar craving cycle. I'm not sure if it was because of taking the insinase or just because I got very determined about it. But I am very happy to report that I have not had any sugar now for 17 days and am finding it easier by the day not to accept anything that's offered to me.

one thing I've discovered that I like is a protein shake before lunch - some of them are full of chemicals and sweeteners and things so you need to get a good one, I have vanilla flavoured solgar whey protein with water or a non flavoured one with half water and half apple juice, blended up they are delicious!

I think I'm finally starting to lose a tiny bit of weight as well - hurrah.

good luck if you try the insinase, like I said though, I'm still not sure if it has made a difference for me or not really....let me know how you get on if you do try it.

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I find night time the worst I want to nibble on candy the DH has in for himself I dont eat much but I would if I didnt stop myself ,if anything I have put on a few pounds , I should cut back on Carbs ...so the insase stops the cravings is it in liquid form ?
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hmmmm

like I said, I'm not sure at all if it's the Insinase that has stopped the cravings or if I've just managed to break the cycle by  being determined - it may have been a coincidence that I was also taking insinase. I'm not taking it any more, I finished the bottle over ten days ago.

It's in capsule form, from a company called Metagenics.
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People who are hypothyroid are often also hypoglycemic. A hypoglycemic, in an attempt to raise blood sugar, will eat sweets. The sweets paradoxically only serve to depress blood sugar further. As blood sugar continues to drop, the craving increases. The treatment is the same as it is for diabetes - stay away from sugar. Here is what you do. (1) Eat several small meals a day, instead of three large ones (to keep blood sugar more level). (2) When the desire for sugar hits you, eat a little protein. (I keep a pound of shrimp in the refrigerator for this purpose.) It works.
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I don't know why your doctor does not want to test your adrenals. Hypothyroidism, hypoglycemia and adrenal insufficiency seem to go hand-in-hand. I see, by the way, after my recent reply to you that I had made the same reply earlier. Maybe I am suffering from oldtimer's.
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i don't know why my doc doesn't want to test my adrenals either, she's somehow managed to dissuade me each time I've asked about it up until now but I can't really put my finger on why that is. she is finally referring me to a specialist now though so I will hopefully be tested for everything like that. he sounds like he will be good.

It seems the way they treat here (I'm in the UK so it's the National Health Service) is try and rule out the "straightforward" stuff before digging any deeper.  now my thyroid blood tests say everything is normal but I am still feeling poorly, so that's the stage I get referred (she has also increased my thyroxine to 125mcg in the meantime). Fingers crossed things will start to get clearer. I am at any rate not feeling as bad as I did so that's good.  I have started to get back to work, finally, that's a huge step forward.

Don't worry about double posting your other response. Good advice can always do with being repeated! I am doing well now at avoiding sugar and I make sure I have healthy low GI snacks to stop me going for stuff I shouldn't eat. :)
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Hi,

I also am Hypothyroid, however, I do not have the Hashimoto's part, or any other autoimmune disfunction that you may be referring to in your post.  I do know why all of my doctors, including the head of Endocrinology at Kaiser did not check anything other than my T4 levels (for about 4 years), and that is because some HMOs simply do not want to help you! They want to treat you if it is going to kill you immediately, but they do not want to get involved with expensive testing and expensive treatment of a person who is not going to die from the problem at hand. They may have run other tests on you than they did on me as you were at greater risk with an autoimmune disease, but in my case they did not. They actually poked around in my neck with their fingers and proclaimed that I was fine. They would not order an ultrasound of my thyroid, even though both my father and his mother have thyroid disease as well... a huge indication that I may also have it!

All that aside, I finally found a private doctor who would treat me, and this doctor checked all sorts of things out to see what my levels of T4 and T3 were, to see how my adrenals were functioning, and also went on to ask me extensive questions in order to figure out what was going on in my body.

I now take supplements for my Adrenal function, I just started taking Insinase to help with minor weight loss (after pregnancy), and I take Nature Throid instead of Synthroid.  It is different because it has both T4 and T3 in the capsule so it works faster and is absorbed differently in your system than the Synthetic version. It is made from the thyroid of a pig though, which is weird!  

I never had intense sugar cravings, except for when I was pregnant, and now, before my period, but I have had a huge problem with the fatigue. Hopefully the Adrenal supplements that I am starting on will help that. Oh, also, you should have your Iron checked.  This is a huge factor in feeling tired. I have to take Iron supplements daily.
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thanks so much for picking up on this thread which has been quiet for such a long time. You are the first person I've found other than me who has tried the Insinase.

what supplements are you taking for adrenals aside from those you mention above?

I've read a lot about naturethroid and armour, I believe both are basically the same, dessicated pig thyroid, although naturethroid is maybe the non prescription version ? I'm not sure, do you know any more about the differences? My GP wasn't keen for me to try it when my naturopath suggested it as she said it would be difficult to judge what was having an impact as I am on synthroid already.

I finally saw an endocrinologist this week. I was referred ages ago but the one I was referred to was ill so it took till now for another appointment to come through.

My iron levels were tested at the outset but she's checking them again  now, also a load of other stuff including, finally, my FT3 that I've been going on at them to check since all this started. It will be interesting to see what shows up, if anything.

I might get to try T3 medication aswell as my synthroid after this, waiting for the test results, she's also tesing cortisol levels etc.

how did you find the private doctor you are going to? I had a bad experience with a private practitioner, see above, but may end up gong back down that route if it turns out the endocrinologist can't / won't do anything else to help me.

I've been back at work full time for a few months now but am realy concerned my brain is still not working properly, although I can function, whereas before I couldn't. It's all so frustrating and scary.

I think the answer for me is going to be a combination of medication, lifestyle and supplements and I've still to get the balance right. It's great to be connected with others in a similar situation.

so sorry you are still struggling with the fatigue, it's no fun. wishing you well. would love to keep in touch.
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